PipeChat Digest #2220 - Tuesday, July 10, 2001
 
re 3/39 organ proposal
  by "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net>
Re: Lynn Dobson and Lake City, IA(cross Posted)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Rodgers Organ at Carnegie Hall
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by <SProt82850@cs.com>
Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
FW: Information on Bach needed....
  by "Joshua Edwards" <fbcorganist@att.net>
Another Allen R question
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Re: speakers
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Another Allen R question
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
two services, one choir (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted)
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
RE: Rodgers Organ at Carnegie Hall
  by "Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
 

(back) Subject: re 3/39 organ proposal From: "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:16:24 -0400   Considering what existing pipe work that you have and the probable budget = constraints of the client, you have thought the process out pretty well to = offer something that will be really functional! I like the fact that you have not unified the organ, especially the = principals, except in the pedal (at a huge cost savings) and chances are = they won't be playing with both feet too much so there shouldn't be any holes there! And... principal chorus with mixtures on both the = great and swell! Good luck with the bid! Wayne    
(back) Subject: Re: Lynn Dobson and Lake City, IA(cross Posted) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:01:40 EDT   Dear List:   I paid a visit to Lake City, IA on July 2, 01 and was not disappointed. The Town of Lake City, IA posted a sign at the city limits, Lake City, but there is no lake! I really found that quite charming, along with the townspeople, honest and quiet, almost to a fault. At one corner of the town square NE I found the beautiful shop of Lynn Dobson. My wife and I walked in the door and what we found was a clean, well manicured office and shop complex. We were met, unannounced by Lynn Dobson, John Panning, and I think also Randy. They were extremely gracious to us, and gave us the complete tour. The first impression was made by the pictures of their completed instruments painstakingly shot by Lynn Dobson himself, and enlarged to approx. 2' by 3' most in full color. I could tell by the attention to detail= ,=20 what the character of their instruments must be like, and prompted me to make this available by writing this up!   We moved up a flight of stairs to a room containing a nine rank Vocalian Reed Organ, obviously an object of affection for Lynn, as he is restoring it to it's former glory. The organ is nearly a pipe organ sized footprint an= d almost 12' high. The case was in very good condition.   The next step in the tour was to the CADD room where all the drawings and blueprints are made on large screen computers. Nothing amiss here either. The erecting room is a clear, clean space nearly 3 stories high.   The next step was the clean room for applying the finishes to consoles and other visible organ parts, and cases. The wood working shop, an adequate= ly large room, contained all the equipment, and parts of the great cathedral organ of Our Lady, Queen of the Angels, Los Angeles. That's what I came to=20 see. Most of this organ is ready to ship, and is warehoused elsewhere, but=20 what I did see was solid and beautiful workmanship. The organ will be=20 electric action, and quite a departure from the usual fare produced by Lynn. Lynn Dobson is noted for tracker organs, so this shows flexability, and that his company is capable of fine electric action organs also. The scales of the recycled Wangerin, and Austin Pipes were made larger to match the size of this emmense Los Angeles Cathedral. To say the least, I'm=20 impressed and nearly speechless, about the work I saw and how clean everything was.   Dobson makes a lot of their own pipes, buying the rolled metal from others for pipe construction. the recycled pipes had new, wide tuning slots especially on the Principal Chorus pipes. I would recommend a visit to this shop if you are ever within a few hundred miles of Lake City, IA. I don't dish out compliments lightly, as most of you know, but you really have to visit Lynn Dobson and his shop at least once in your lifetime!   Pleasant regards,   Ron Severin   PS Since my comments are of general interest, I decided to cross post my unsolicited remarks about this extraordinary Co.   http://www.musicbase.org/E/SEV001.html http://www.churchorgansystems.com.html/products Fax:1-208-439-6781 Church Organ Systems of Orange County J=E4ger und Brommer Orgelbau St. Mary's by the Sea  
(back) Subject: RE: Rodgers Organ at Carnegie Hall From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:05:53 -0500   The photo in TAO (9/84) shows "RODGERS" but the caption refers to "touring organ." Can't see the drawknobs or other controls clearly enough to read their labels.   -----Original Message----- From: Carlo Pietroniro [mailto:organist@total.net] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:50 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Rodgers Organ at Carnegie Hall     Peter,   if "Royal V" is written above the rocker-tablets, then it's the touring organ. if "RODGERS" is written above the rocker-tablets, then it's the Carnegie Hall organ.   Do they both have a "Zimbelstern" rocker-tablet, located in the top row, = far right (red)? Also, the Carnegie Hall Rodgers is the first organ (I've ever seen), that had a 'General Cancel' toe stud, as well as the more commonly-found piston.   c.p.     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 08:34:20 -0700   The Rector just e-mailed that he wants two more-or-less identical Sung Masses with choir in the Fall. I knew it was coming; I don't quite know how we're going to pull it off with a volunteer choir of 3-2-2-3 who WON'T sing two Masses except on Christmas and Easter.   Sunday School will be DURING the earlier Mass, with the kids coming into church at the end of the Offertory, so I can't have a children's choir for that Mass.   I have suggested ALTERNATING the choir between the two Masses, but I know he doesn't like that ... "The 10:45 High Mass crowd wants the choir EVERY Sunday" ... or hiring a quartet for one of the Masses and having the choir at the other.   How do those of you who have two sung services handle this? I'm fresh out of ideas ...   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach    
(back) Subject: Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: <SProt82850@cs.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:46:56 EDT     --part1_12d.12d0fbb.287c7d70_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Bud,   I bribed my choir with breakfast between the two services. Since my = parish at the time had sheet music back to the time of the Roman emperors (grin, = as you'd say!), I "redirected" part of the music budget to pay for food each week. The rector was so pleased we eventually got a separate budget item. = With the help of the "kitchen ladies" (every Episcopal parish I've ever = known comes complete with a great kitchen and women who live for things like tea =   cozies!) we created a nice little weekly social event that kept the choir quite happy. In fact, word got around and the choir grew!   Steven   --part1_12d.12d0fbb.287c7d70_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bud, <BR> <BR>I bribed my choir with breakfast between the two services. &nbsp;Since = my parish <BR>at the time had sheet music back to the time of the Roman emperors = (grin, as <BR>you'd say!), I "redirected" part of the music budget to pay for food = each <BR>week. &nbsp;The rector was so pleased we eventually got a separate = budget item. &nbsp; <BR>With the help of the "kitchen ladies" (every Episcopal parish I've = ever known <BR>comes complete with a great kitchen and women who live for things like = tea <BR>cozies!) we created a nice little weekly social event that kept the = choir <BR>quite happy. &nbsp;In fact, word got around and the choir grew! <BR> <BR>Steven</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12d.12d0fbb.287c7d70_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:00:18 -0500   On 7/10/01 10:34 AM, quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > How do those of you who have two sung services handle this? I'm fresh > out of ideas ...   Seems to me a classic case of the choir about to vote with its feet. I = know that my choir wouldn't wear it. In fact, they likely wouldn't even wear = the idea of alternating services - feisty lot, my choir.   And, like it or not, when you're dealing with volunteers, you and more particularly the rector have to be willing to make do with the amount of volunteering that the volunteers are willing to volunteer for!   Good luck!   Russ Greene St. Andrew's Woodhaven    
(back) Subject: Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:27:39 -0700     --------------153A244F34EE328AE200AC8E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   That MIGHT work in the new church; right now every inch of space is taken up, and we HAVE no kitchen (grin). Also, those wonderful Anglican ladies you're speaking of are mostly in their seventies in our parish .... we long ago went to catering everything, even when we HAD a kitchen.   Cheers,   Bud   SProt82850@cs.com wrote:   > Bud, > > I bribed my choir with breakfast between the two services. Since my > parish > at the time had sheet music back to the time of the Roman emperors > (grin, as > you'd say!), I "redirected" part of the music budget to pay for food > each > week. The rector was so pleased we eventually got a separate budget > item. > With the help of the "kitchen ladies" (every Episcopal parish I've > ever known > comes complete with a great kitchen and women who live for things like > tea > cozies!) we created a nice little weekly social event that kept the > choir > quite happy. In fact, word got around and the choir grew! > > Steven   --------------153A244F34EE328AE200AC8E Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> That MIGHT work in the new church; right now every inch of space is taken up, and we HAVE no kitchen (grin). Also, those wonderful Anglican ladies you're speaking of are mostly in their seventies in our parish ... we long ago went to catering everything, even when we HAD a kitchen. <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>SProt82850@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Bud,</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>I bribed my choir with = breakfast between the two services.&nbsp; Since my parish</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>at the time had sheet = music back to the time of the Roman emperors (grin, as</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>you'd say!), I = "redirected" part of the music budget to pay for food each</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>week.&nbsp; The rector = was so pleased we eventually got a separate budget item.</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>With the help of the = "kitchen ladies" (every Episcopal parish I've ever known</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>comes complete with a = great kitchen and women who live for things like tea</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>cozies!) we created a = nice little weekly social event that kept the choir</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>quite happy.&nbsp; In = fact, word got around and the choir grew!</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Steven</font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------153A244F34EE328AE200AC8E--    
(back) Subject: FW: Information on Bach needed.... From: "Joshua Edwards" <fbcorganist@att.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:25:27 -0400   Does anyone have any good information on the Little Fugue in G minor, BWV 578? I have a concert Sunday and can't seem to find anything for the program notes....   Thanks,   Josh Edwards Jefferson City, TN      
(back) Subject: Another Allen R question From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:49:43 -0400       Im hopeing someone out there can clear up an issue for me. The church Im serving, is looking at a farily large Allen. The room is acoustically dry =   even though it has materials which should be reflective.   I am trying to figure out speaker issues for the room. My understanding = was that the newest Allen speakers had the best presence when turned so that they reflect. My rep told me that in our room that it would be better to have them shooting right down the main part of the church. Of course, the =   speakers will be spread out but Im wondering if we will be getting the = best sound if the speakers face forward. Any thoughts?   Thanks much!   Craig   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:03:40 -0400     Bud:   I once served an Episcopal parish with much the same problem. We simply didnt have the resources to do it. I suggested to the Rector that we ask ourselves some questions about what the real goal for a sung Eucharist = was. It seems to me that if we continue to relate "sung" service, with the presence of a choir, then we run the risk that the Roman Church now faces. = Why cant the congregation LEARN the parts of the mass and respond accordingly. After all, isnt liturgy the PEOPLES work?   Craig   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: speakers From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:11:18 -0700 (PDT)   In my experience ALL electronic organs sound better if the speakers are = located in chambers and NOT pointing straight out. The new allens have digital reverb and I think = in a dry room this is helpful as long as it is adjusted so it is not overdone or unnatural = sounding.   If you don't have chambers just place them so they are not pointed "line = of sight."   I have not been to a church with a Renaissance Allen, but I played one of = the larger better MDS with all speakers in the original organ chambers and it was one of the = best I ever heard.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:19:17 -0700   They do NOW, Craig ... we don't HAVE choral Ordinaries, except about three times a year: Christmas, Maundy Thursday, and Easter Day. The BIG thing = for us is the sung Propers, and a big Offertory Anthem, and (usually) a fairly = lengthy Communion motet. The congregation sings three hymns and the Ordinary ... = Kyrie, Sanctus, Agnus Dei, Gloria.   Cheers,   Bud   BridgewaterUMC Director of Music wrote:   > Bud: > > I once served an Episcopal parish with much the same problem. We simply > didnt have the resources to do it. I suggested to the Rector that we = ask > ourselves some questions about what the real goal for a sung Eucharist = was. > It seems to me that if we continue to relate "sung" service, with the > presence of a choir, then we run the risk that the Roman Church now = faces. > Why cant the congregation LEARN the parts of the mass and respond > accordingly. After all, isnt liturgy the PEOPLES work? > > Craig > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:25:29 EDT   In a message dated 01-07-10 15:04:47 EDT, you write:   > I suggested to the Rector that we ask > ourselves some questions about what the real goal for a sung Eucharist was. > what answer did the rector give you??? inquiring minds want to know! Merry  
(back) Subject: Re: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:29:23 EDT     --part1_5f.17a9890e.287cbfa3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Well, I work at a church of a slightly different ilk, but I utilize our = youth choir for the other service, which has worked well for us for nearly 7 = years.   Is it possible to hire a vocal quartet?   Perhaps make an appeal through a letter to the congregation, inviting = persons to join a very new choir for whichever service it's for. You might have = to select different repertory, but it's possible that it will work.   If the people do not want to sing at 2 services, they will not sing at 2 services. If it's the Rector's idea and it doesn't work, then he will = need to be responsible when the people revolt. And he should be willing to support you when you are required to supply music at both services.   Ok, I'm done for now. Neil Brown       --part1_5f.17a9890e.287cbfa3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Well, I work at a church of a slightly different ilk, but I = utilize our youth <BR>choir for the other service, which has worked well for us for nearly 7 = years. <BR> <BR>Is it possible to hire a vocal quartet? <BR> <BR>Perhaps make an appeal through a letter to the congregation, inviting = persons <BR>to join a very new choir for whichever service it's for. &nbsp;You = might have to <BR>select different repertory, but it's possible that it will work. <BR> <BR>If the people do not want to sing at 2 services, they will not sing at = 2 <BR>services. &nbsp;If it's the Rector's idea and it doesn't work, then he = will need <BR>to be responsible when the people revolt. &nbsp;And he should be = willing to <BR>support you when you are required to supply music at both services. <BR> <BR>Ok, I'm done for now. <BR>Neil Brown <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_5f.17a9890e.287cbfa3_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Another Allen R question From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:33:56 EDT   Hi Craig:   It does help to address the dead room first. St. Ambrose Cathedral in=20 Des Moines is carpeted, but the walls and ceiling are very reflective, and 1/3 of the santuary space is marble. Accoustics about 3 seconds empty to half full. Music is absolutely stunning there, it can be done.   Speakers shouldn't supply all the accoustic, and in a dead room you'll=20 need twice as many as in an alive room. Placing the speakers direct may be your only solution, if the walls are wooly. Much of this kind of treatment is way over kill, and does not make any music very pleasing.   My 2=A2,   Ron Severin   The Presbyterian Reuter, new last year is a good example, of how to=20 ruin the sound of a 2 1/2 million dollar organ. This is in Seattle. John=20 Weaver did a nice recital, but.......! I'll leave it at that!   http://www.musicbase.org/E/SEV001.html http://www.churchorgansystems.com.html/products Fax:1-208-439-6781 Church Organ Systems of Orange County J=E4ger und Brommer Orgelbau St. Mary's by the Sea  
(back) Subject: two services, one choir (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:44:13 -0700   Interesting how quickly things evolve (grin) ... the choir is having NONE of alternating between the two Masses ... "If Sunday School is at 9:00, we're COMING at 9:00, whether the choir sings or not."   A head-count reveals 3-2-2-3 for 9:00 (plus we'd pick up 0-1-1-1 at the very LEAST if we sang at 9:00), and only 1-0-1-0 for 10:45, so there you have it: IF there's going to be a choir at 10:45, it's going be a paid quartet (grin).   The choir has WANTED an earlier High Mass ever since I've been at St. Matthew's; when the opportunity came, they jumped on it like white on rice (grin).   I can see 10:45 becoming a Low Mass with hymns (and maybe Merbecke) REAL quick, if they won't spring for the quartet.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: RE: TWO sung services with choir??!! (X-posted) From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:00:10 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000A_01C10961.C75FB320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I bribed my choir with breakfast between the two services. Since my parish at the time had sheet music back to the time of the Roman emperors = (grin, as you'd say!), I "redirected" part of the music budget to pay for food = each week. [Mike S. ]   I wouldn't bribe my choir that way. If the Pastor wants to do it, fine, but keep me out of it. And I wouldn't blow my music budget on food = either.   It's good to hear that eventually, you did get extra funding, but in = most churches, That probably wouldn't happen.   Best wishes, Mike       ------=3D_NextPart_000_000A_01C10961.C75FB320 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial>I bribed my choir with =3D breakfast between=3D20 the two services. &nbsp;Since my parish <BR>at the time had sheet =3D music back=3D20 to the time of the Roman emperors (grin, as <BR>you'd say!), I =3D "redirected"=3D20 part of the music budget to pay for food each =3D <BR>week.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN class=3D3D050225720-10072001>[Mike S.=3D20 ]&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001>I wouldn't bribe my choir that way.&nbsp; = =3D If the=3D20 Pastor wants to do it, fine, but keep me out of it.&nbsp; And I =3D wouldn't blow=3D20 my music budget on food either.&nbsp; =3D </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001>It's good to hear that eventually, you did = =3D get extra=3D20 funding, but in most churches, That probably wouldn't happen.&nbsp;=3D20 </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001>Best =3D wishes,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001>Mike</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D050225720-10072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D050225720-10072001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOC= =3D KQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000A_01C10961.C75FB320--    
(back) Subject: RE: Rodgers Organ at Carnegie Hall From: "Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:40:27 -0500   HI, Y'all, just late this afternoon I happened to be searching on the web for a p.r. photo of Ovid Young, and low-and-behold, there is a picture of Ovid seated at the bench of the Carnegie Hall Rodgers. Here's what I saw: Natural wood, 5 manuals, the word "RODGERS" in all caps above the 2 rows = of coupler tabs. There was no music rack. And there were poinsettias on the platform on which the console was positioned.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Storandt, Peter > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:06 AM > To: 'PipeChat' > Subject: RE: Rodgers Organ at Carnegie Hall > > > The photo in TAO (9/84) shows "RODGERS" but the caption refers to = "touring > organ." Can't see the drawknobs or other controls clearly enough to = read > their labels. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlo Pietroniro [mailto:organist@total.net] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:50 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Rodgers Organ at Carnegie Hall > > > Peter, > > if "Royal V" is written above the rocker-tablets, then it's the touring > organ. > if "RODGERS" is written above the rocker-tablets, then it's the Carnegie > Hall organ. > > Do they both have a "Zimbelstern" rocker-tablet, located in the > top row, far > right (red)? > Also, the Carnegie Hall Rodgers is the first organ (I've ever seen), = that > had a 'General > Cancel' toe stud, as well as the more commonly-found piston. > > c.p. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >