PipeChat Digest #2223 - Wednesday, July 11, 2001
 
Re: FW: Information on Bach needed....
  by "Roger Brown" <rbrown7@bigpond.net.au>
RE: people-by-the-sea
  by "Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Rectors reply (was TWO sung)
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Austin Stoplist needed
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by "Panning" <jpanning@cal-net.net>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Austin Stoplist needed
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: stoplists and the literature
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
Re: Rectors reply (was TWO sung)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Austin Stoplist needed
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Re: stoplists and the literature
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Another Allen R question
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Rectors reply (was TWO sung)
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
RE: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
GOD HELP ME! (x-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: FW: Information on Bach needed.... From: "Roger Brown" <rbrown7@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:38:05 +1000   None of those seemed to have terribly much about BVW 578 but the second = last URL is certainly one of the better short biographies of JSB I've seen on = the web.   Thanks   Roger Brown robrown@melbpc.org.au rbrown7@bigpond.net.au http://rogerbrown.tripod.com ----- Original Message -----   From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:56 AM Subject: Re: FW: Information on Bach needed....     > http://immaculatasymphony.org/Apr97.html > http://www.lib.utk.edu/~music/analysis/antab3.html > www.hku.nl/pub/prospectus/pdf/m-en.pdf > http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~bachpagina/bio/bio.html > 212.186.218.4/6_archiv/books/Notenbibliothek.pdf >      
(back) Subject: RE: people-by-the-sea From: "Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:43:32 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0025_01C109DD.2ED4B980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I'm sorry you got no sleep since I'm reading this note in the morning, bit since you were wondering about the designation of "by the sea," but, alas, you may use the "by the sea" if it pleases you and garners you additional income!   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea (actually, close to the intracoastal waterway, but can still smell the = sea) -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Stephen Barker Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:06 PM To: PipeChat Subject: people-by-the-sea     Just a silly late night posting really...   Seeing several of you are "by-the-sea" I was wondering how close you = need to be? I live 6 miles (aproximately 10km) from the Sea? Is that close enough? Can I be Steve-by-the-sea? I need this information to sleep well tonight...   Steve-in-Canterbury-which-may-be-near-the-sea...   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0025_01C109DD.2ED4B980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D540273912-11072001><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#ff00ff>I'm sorry you=3D20 got no sleep since I'm reading this note in the morning, bit since you =3D were=3D20 wondering about the designation of "by the sea," but, alas, you may use = =3D the "by=3D20 the sea" if it pleases you and garners you additional=3D20 income!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D540273912-11072001><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#ff00ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D540273912-11072001><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#ff00ff>Yours,=3D20 </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D540273912-11072001><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#ff00ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D540273912-11072001><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#ff00ff>Darryl by the=3D20 Sea</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D540273912-11072001><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#ff00ff>(actually,=3D20 close to the intracoastal waterway, but can still smell the=3D20 sea)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #ff00ff 2px = =3D solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D3D"Times New = Roman"=3D20 size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =3D pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Stephen=3D20 Barker<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=3D20 PipeChat<BR><B>Subject:</B> people-by-the-sea<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just a silly late night = posting=3D20 really...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Seeing several of you are =3D "by-the-sea" I was=3D20 wondering how close you need to be?&nbsp; I live 6 miles (aproximately = =3D 10km)=3D20 from the Sea?&nbsp; Is that close enough?&nbsp; Can I be=3D20 Steve-by-the-sea?&nbsp; I need this information to sleep well=3D20 tonight...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 =3D size=3D3D2>Steve-in-Canterbury-which-may-be-near-the-sea...</FONT></DIV></B= =3D LOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0025_01C109DD.2ED4B980--    
(back) Subject: Rectors reply (was TWO sung) From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:19:26 -0400     Merry:   As I recall he was a bit put out that an Organist would question his theological basis for a liturgical decision. Basically put me on notice that this was HIS area and not mine. It was the first in a series of clashes over similar issues.   He defended his position that by saying that all masses should be "sung" = and that the only proper way to do that was with a choir. This in spite of = the fact that a very large and vocal group wished for a much simpler early Eucharist.   Craig   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:27:39 -0400       Glenda:   Seems you have me beat! I live on a man made lake. I guess that would be =   the equivalent to a pipe vs digital comparison?   Craig   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:31:47 -0400       Glenda: Being a Scotsman I happen to have a couple of Scottish hymanls somewhere around here. Ill consult them and get back to you on this. While were at =   it, does anyone know of any Scottish organ music from any period? I must have missed this part of Organ Lit class.   Glenda, I happen to have a kilt you can use, should they request highland dress of you!   Craig   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Austin Stoplist needed From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:25:57 -0700 (PDT)   Can someone please send me the stoplist to an Austin? The particular instrument I am interested in is in First Pres. Church, Bessemer, AL. I suppose any Austin list will do though.   I have an informal audition there today and I am not familiar with Austins. I wrote to the Austin website but have not heard back yet.   Thanks for any help you can give me on this.   Cindy   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: "Panning" <jpanning@cal-net.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:59:35 -0500   Not only am I not near the sea, but Lake City doesn't even have a lake!   John A. Panning "Lake" City, Iowa   P.S. We've got a fountain...does that count?      
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:09:17 +0800   WE HAVE 'GATERS TOO BUT THEY REALLY DO EAT PEOPLE!!! Bob by the sea and between two harbours   Glenda wrote: > > I don't know, but all I saw at Wakulla Springs last weekend were momma > gators and baby gators - the big 'uns heard I was coming! >    
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:50:28 EDT   I live about two miles from the Atlantic in New Jersey. My first job five years ago was restoring the organ in Star of the Sea Church, about a half mile from the beach in Long Branch, NJ. The current project is restoring = an organ in Sea Bright, NJ about a quarter mile from the high tide mark. I = was born in the hospital in Pt. Pleasant, NJ the only hospital I have ever = seen that had a dock. They call people like me who were born within a mile of = the ocean "Clam Diggers". The summer visitors from NY and Pa. are called "Bennies" "Shoebies" or "WEBS" (week end bastards).   Ahoy:   Alan B    
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:14:18 -0400   >I live about two miles from the Atlantic in New Jersey. My first job five >years ago was restoring the organ in Star of the Sea Church, about a half >mile from the beach in Long Branch, NJ. The current project is restoring = an >organ in Sea Bright, NJ about a quarter mile from the high tide mark. I = was >born in the hospital in Pt. Pleasant, NJ the only hospital I have ever = seen >that had a dock. They call people like me who were born within a mile of = the >ocean "Clam Diggers". The summer visitors from NY and Pa. are called >"Bennies" "Shoebies" or "WEBS" (week end bastards). > >Ahoy: > >Alan B   And I was born BELOW sea level, Rotterdam Holland. I now live in NY but with those kind of appelations I sure don't feel welcome any more!   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Austin Stoplist needed From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:55:32 -0700 (PDT)   The Austin at 1st Pres in Bessemer was rebuilt and relocated by Levson = Organ Co. It is a mid 'teens instrument and as I remember the Great was VERY loud, the swell = Strings were VDO's, and there was no 16' Reed in the pedal. Lots of nice sounds, however and in = the 15 or so years since I was there they may have refined it some. Play lots of hymns, chorale = preludes and more contemporary loud stuff.   It is a 3/p and something like this:   Gt: 8'Diapason, 8' Doppelflute, 8' Gemshorn, 4' Octave, 2-2/3' Twelfth, 2' = Fifteenth, III Mixture (added,) and 8' Trumpet   Ch: 8' Concert Flute, 8' Dulciana, 4' Flute, 2' Principal, 8' Clarinet   Sw: 16' Bdn, 8' Diap, 8' Ged, 8' VDO, 8' Celeste, 4' Flute, 2' Flageolet, = III Dolce Cornet, 8' Cornopean, 8' Oboe   Pd: 16, 16, 8, 8, and I think Tpt 8 from the great. --- Cindy Adams <piperheaven@yahoo.com> wrote: > Can someone please send me the stoplist to an Austin? > The particular instrument I am interested in is in > First Pres. Church, Bessemer, AL. I suppose any Austin > list will do though. > > I have an informal audition there today and I am not > familiar with Austins. I wrote to the Austin website > but have not heard back yet. > > Thanks for any help you can give me on this. > > Cindy > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:02:31 -0700   Since the State Church of Scotland became Presbyterian at the Reformation, = I doubt you're going to find much (grin), as organs were considered "papist" = and therefore mostly forbidden ... there might be some LATE 19th century or = 20th century preludes on Scottish Psalter tunes by Sassenachs (Englishmen), but = I doubt that many would be recognizable to modern Scots ... The Lord's My Shepherd (Brother James Air), perhaps; God Moves In A Mysterious Way = (Dundee).   The Hymnal 1940 Companion lists the following:   Old Hundred Fourth Parry, CHH - Chorale Prelude on Old 104th Wood, Charles - Old CIV Psalm, in 16 Preludes for the Organ   St. Anne Harris, Cuthbert - Postlude on St. Anne's tune Noble, TT - CHoral Prelude on St. Anne Parry, CHH - Chorale Prelude on St. Anne, in 7 Chorale Preludes = (Novello)   Dundee Curry, WL - Choral Prelude on Dundee (Gray) Noble, TT - Choral Prelude on the tune DUndee Parry, CHH - Chorale Prelude on Dundee   You might try "Scottish Psalter" as a search string.   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach, whose ancestors were recusants on the OTHER side of the border (grin)       BridgewaterUMC Director of Music wrote:   > Glenda: > Being a Scotsman I happen to have a couple of Scottish hymanls somewhere > around here. Ill consult them and get back to you on this. While were = at > it, does anyone know of any Scottish organ music from any period? I = must > have missed this part of Organ Lit class. > > Glenda, I happen to have a kilt you can use, should they request = highland > dress of you! > > Craig > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: stoplists and the literature From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:08:25 -0400   Thanks again, Bud. Comments, anyone? Here's my list; it's a 135 seat church; electro-pneumatic all in one chamber; straight ranks are shown by "--":   PRESENT STATUS - IN ALL UPPER CASE. Voices proposed to be added - in lower case.   SWELL DIVISION A GEDECKT 16, 8, 4, 2 2/3, 2 B Geigen Prin. 8, 4, 1 1/3 (Sc. 62 @ 4'C) -- SALICIONAL 8 -- VOIX CELESTE 8 TC A Gedeckt 1 3/5 -- TRUMPET 8 SW-SW 16', 4' TREMOLO (For Swell division and "A" rank only)   GREAT DIVISION E4 Gemshorn(Digital) 16 -- DIAPASON 8 (Sc. 56 @ 4'C) C Rohrflute (Metal) 8 (12 "A" basses) B Geigen Prin. 8 E4 Gemshorn(Digital) 8 E5 Gemshorn Cel.(Digital) 8 (Sharp tuning - see 2 2/3') -- OCTAVE 4 (Sc. 59 @ 4'C) A GEDECKT 4 E4 Gemshorn Cel.(Digital) 2 2/3 (True tuned) B Geigen Prin. 2 E3 Tromba(Digital) 8 GR-GR 4', SW-GT 8'   PEDAL DIVISION E1 Principal(Digital) 16, 8, 4 E2 Bourdon(Digital) 16 A GEDECKT 16, 8 (Rather soft) C Rohrflute 4 E3 Tromba(Digital) 16, 8, 4 GT-PED 8' SW-PED 8'   Ed, in Maine   ----- Original Message ----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com To: PipeChat Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: Re: stoplists and the literature   Ed - give us the current and proposed spec of your organ first. It's hard = to comment without seeing the whole organ as it is, and as you want it. Here's the latest version (hopefully the LAST) of the new organ for St. Matthew's ...   (snip, snip.....)   Cheers, Bud-by-the-Beach          
(back) Subject: Re: Rectors reply (was TWO sung) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:13:27 -0700       BridgewaterUMC Director of Music wrote:   > Merry: > > As I recall he was a bit put out that an Organist would question his > theological basis for a liturgical decision. Basically put me on notice > that this was HIS area and not mine. It was the first in a series of > clashes over similar issues.   Yeah ... been there/done that (grin) ... my present Rector (at least) = respects the fact that I know AT LEAST as much as he does about liturgy and = liturgical theology (grin).   > He defended his position that by saying that all masses should be "sung"   Well, he's correct in THAT ... Low Mass had no existence in the Western = Church until it became the custom in the high Middle Ages to endow "chantries" = (small chapels) for the saying of Masses for the donor's intention (usually = Requiems for departed family members) ... prior to that time, ALL Masses in the = West were sung, as the Divine Liturgy is to this day in the Eastern Church.   The first prayer book (1549) presumes that everything will be sung, and = John Merbecke produced The Book of Common Praier Noted so it could be, even in = small village churches.   > and > that the only proper way to do that was with a choir.   I'd question THAT ... Merbecke could be done with a few "clerkes"; we can = have a SPLENDID High Mass with the congregation singing the Propers AND the = Ordinary, and often do on weekdays. But that wasn't OUR issue ... OUR issue was more = that the congregation wants to SEE the choir, walking in procession, and have a = big rum-te-tum Offertory Anthem in The Grand Manner (grin).   > This in spite of the > fact that a very large and vocal group wished for a much simpler early > Eucharist. > > Craig >   The Oxford Movement was famous (or notorious, depending on your point of = view) for enshrining whatever the RC practice of the moment happened to be ... = the "muttered Mass" was the RC norm in 1825, so the Tractarians adopted its practices, right down to the Prayers After Low Mass for the Conversion of = Russia (grin), though I think those were added later.   The whole notion of simple being "apostolic" is a Romantic 19th century = notion .... the Eastern Divine liturgy crystallized in the 4th century A.D., and = it is ANYTHING but simple. The Lord's Supper on Maundy Thursday, whether or not = it was the Passover (East and West disagree about THAT), was an extremely formal = ritual meal, following 1st century Jewish custom and practice.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Austin Stoplist needed From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:45:04 -0700 (PDT)   Randy,   wait.......on reading the message closer, this is a stoplist and not combinations...just wanted you to know I knew that!   Thanks again for your help. --- Randy Terry <randyterryus@yahoo.com> wrote: > The Austin at 1st Pres in Bessemer was rebuilt and > relocated by Levson Organ Co. It is a mid     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: stoplists and the literature From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:14:48 -0700   Let's see ... to put this in more readable order (grin), you've got/plan = to get:   SWELL   1 - 16' Gedeckt 2 - 8' Geigen Principal 1 - 8' Gedeckt 3 - 8' Salicional 4 - 8' Voix Celeste 2 - 4' Geigen Octave 1 - 4' Gedeckt 1 - 2 2/3' Gedeckt 1 - 2' Gedeckt 1 - 1 3/5' Gedeckt 2 - 1 1/3 Geigen Quint 5 - 8' Trumpet   I'd run the Geigen up to 2' to give a complete chorus.   I'd opt for a (digital?) Oboe ... if you only have TWO reeds, one of them = needs to be an Oboe or a Cromorne. If you need a louder Tromba of a different character on the Great, that's cool, but there needs to be a softer solo = reed SOMEWHERE.   You might THINK about running the 2 2/3 and 1 3/5 off the Salicional ... = they'd still be out of tune, but they'd be soft enough to use with the Geigen OR = the Gedeckt. What about off the Voix Celeste?   If the organ's all in one box, why not run the Rohr Flute at 4' in the = Swell? That way you'd not have adjacent pitches unified ... like you've done in = the Great.   GREAT   E - 16' Gemshorn 6 - 8' Open Diapason 7 - 8' Rohr Flute 2 - 8' Geigen Principal (swell) E - 8' Gemshorn E - 8' Gemshorn Celeste 8 - 4' Octave 1 - 4' Gedeckt (swell) E - 2 2/3' Gemshorn 2 - 2' Geigen Fifteenth (swell) E - 8' Tromba   If the digital Gemshorn is THERE, I'd run it 16 - 8 - 4 - 2 2/3 - 2 - 1 = 3/5 - (1?) ... I'm rather fond of unit Gemshorns as miniature choruses / solo = combos, and also for accompaniment.   I'd also run the Rohr Flute at 8 - 2, with the 4' Gedeckt in the middle = ... the opposite of what I've suggested in the Swell.   I'd ALMOST rather opt for a (digital?) Mixture on the Great, and duplex = the Trumpet down from the Swell, but then that wouldn't give you your Trombas = in the Pedal; and the bottom 12 pipes for a 16' Trumpet are VERY expensive (grin) = ... I KNOW; that's what WE'RE doing.   PEDAL   E - 16' Principal E - 16' Bourdon 1 - 16' Gedeckt (swell) E - 8' Octave 1 - 8' Gedeckt (swell) E - 4' Super Octave 7 - 4' Rohr Flute (great) E - 16' Tromba (great) E - 8' Tromba (great) E - 4' Tromba (great)   Don't you need something to go between the 8' Octave and the 8' Gedeckt, volume-wise? Maybe extend the Bourdon to 8' ... and/or bring down the = Swell Geigen, or the Great Gemshorn.   I'D have a (derived) 10 2/3 Quint in there someplace, or maybe Resultant F = and Resultant P ... Resultant F would be the 16' Principal at 16' and the 16' Bourdon at 10 2/3 for notes 1-12; the rest would be the 16' Principal = playing an octave lower; Resultant P would be the 16' Bourdon at 16' and the 16' = Gedeckt at 10 2/3' for notes 1-12; the rest would be the Bourdon playing an octave = lower, perhaps at a lower volume ... you can probably do that with digital stops.   If there's to be no Pedal Mixture, I'd run the digital Principal up to 2'.   Looks like a nice little unit organ, IF everything's voiced VERY carefully = (in particular the digital stuff needs to have enough speakers and amps to = have something approaching the presence of the pipework).   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:54:52 EDT   In a message dated 7/11/01 5:33:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com writes:   << While were at it, does anyone know of any Scottish organ music from any period? >>   Many years ago I attended a recital at St. George's West Church in = Edinburgh. The program was music by "native or 'adopted' Scottish composers". I kept =   the program:   Prelude and Fugue in A flat - Gal Three Preludes on Scottish Psalm Tunes - Orr Siciliana in B minor - Hollins (who, I believe, had been organist of St. Georges) Paean - Leighton Toccata - Rimmer   Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:10:39 -0500   I'll go into heavy training, so that I will have slim and shapely legs by then!   Glenda   ----- Original Message ----- From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" > > > Glenda, I happen to have a kilt you can use, should they request = highland > dress of you!        
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:14:06 -0500   But I really eat gators, too (occasionally) - tastes like chicken!   Glenda   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>   > WE HAVE 'GATERS TOO BUT THEY REALLY DO EAT PEOPLE!!! > Bob by the sea and between two harbours        
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:06:53 EDT   In a message dated 7/10/01 5:12:29 PM EST, steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk writes:   > > Seeing several of you are "by-the-sea" I was wondering how close you = need to > be? I live 6 miles (aproximately 10km) from the Sea? Is that close enough? > Can I be Steve-by-the-sea? I need this information to sleep well = tonight... > > Steve-in-Canterbury-which-may-be-near-the-sea... > Perhaps if you can't be Steve-by the Sea, you could be = Steve-in-the-Close??   Rick in VA (and NO question that I AM in Virginia, but NOT by the sea) = cheers  
(back) Subject: Re: Another Allen R question From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:06:49 EDT   In a message dated 7/10/01 1:51:52 PM EST, bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com writes:   > > I am trying to figure out speaker issues for the room. My = understanding was > > that the newest Allen speakers had the best presence when turned so = that > they reflect. My rep told me that in our room that it would be better = to > have them shooting right down the main part of the church. If your rep installs the speakers his way and they don't work the way you want, you can always have him re-do the installation, but if he does it = your way and they don't work, he could say that he did what you asked to be = done, and then turn around and charge you to do what he wanted to do in the = first place.   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:37:14 EDT   In a message dated 7/11/01 11:16:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes:   << I now live in NY but with those kind of appelations I sure don't feel welcome any more! >>   Sorry John, I should have written "present company excepted".   Cheers:   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: Rectors reply (was TWO sung) From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:56:19 EDT   In a message dated 01-07-11 12:13:39 EDT, you write:   > As I recall he was a bit put out that an Organist would question his > > theological basis for a liturgical decision. Basically put me on = notice > > that this was HIS area and not mine. It was the first in a series of > > clashes over similar issues.   yes, how dare the professional musician presume to know anything about = music in the liturgy, after all!!!! canon law does state that the priest has = the ultimate authority in these matters, but most sure don't know how to delegate, do they!! Merry  
(back) Subject: RE: [Cross-posted] Need advice from a good tight Scotsman From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:58:32 +0100   Hollins (who, I believe, had been organist of St. Georges)   Yes, he was organist of St. George's West in Edinburgh for about 40 years, but although living in Scotland was English, being born in Hull.   Regards Andrew    
(back) Subject: GOD HELP ME! (x-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:26:29 -0700   The Rector has just overturned everything I've worked (at HIS behest) to establish for the last four years ... we're to have Prayer-Book Communion services with Merbecke/Willan, two anthems, and three hymns, PERIOD!   Anybody know of any traditionalist anglo-catholic parishes open?   Bud