PipeChat Digest #2226 - Thursday, July 12, 2001
 
Re: Scott - "Neo Baroque" & other fads
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: people-by-the-sea
  by "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net>
Re: St. George's West, Edinburgh - Alfred Hollins
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: "Neo Baroque" Organd was Re: Anecdote - for haters of Quintadenas, Po
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by "Josh Edwards" <fbcorganist@att.net>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)and Then Some
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: program Sunday (Playing Level)and Then Some
  by "Josh Edwards" <fbcorganist@att.net>
Re: "Neo Baroque" Organd was Re: Anecdote - for haters ofQuintadenas,  Po
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Scott - "Neo Baroque" & other fads From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:38:17 -0700 (PDT)   It will be interesting to see which way the pendulem swings next - = probably some large cathedral will build a great west organ with a Blockwerk and oversized keys!   I really love the period we are in now. There is a renewed appreciation = for all older romantic and post-romantic instruments and at least people are thinking before trashing = them wholesale.   I am also supportive of the "ecclectic" trackers that are being built - = there is a wonderful Visser-Rowland in my neck of the woods, not large, but quite nice = (although it could do with a Gemshorn on the Great and a less "positiv-like" swell - it is still a = great instrument!   What I am really excited about are some of the wonderful continuo organs = I've seen, or the neat Fritts at Stanford. While I would not want to play a Renaissance = instrument all the time, it is mind opening to play Sweelinck on that organ.   I would'nt get too comfortable - As much as I appreciate the advances in = electronic substitutes, those same advances are scary! But I think it is wonderful to have the = diversity of instruments and appreciation for styles we have now.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:07:09 EDT   Hey All, Josh Edwards brought up his recital this Sunday and asked a = question along the lines of his repertoire and level of study. As an = upcoming college junior, I think I should add my two cents. Repertoire, in my eyes, doesn't truly reflect the playing level of an = organist. I feel that a good organist is characterized by his or her = ability to play the studied repertoire WELL and be comfortable and adept = at the instrument. I have tons of friends who are younger than me and can = play Reger, the Durufle Suite, Dupre Passion Symphonie, and other pieces = along these lines, yet these people are terrible with accompanying and = hymns. These people who play lots of major pieces don't play the pieces = well, they just turn them out. Being a good organist and up to your level = of study is all about how you work with the instrument. I have one friend = who has only studied 8 bach chorales, the Franck A minor, Vierne Finale, = and Gigout Toccata in B Minor, and he plays all of it REALLY WELL. Its all = about interpretation, artistry, and musicality. It isn't what you play = (within reason, Mary Had A Little Lamb doesn't qualify), but its HOW WELL = you play it! Having a huge portfolio of piec! es is grand, but wowing people a nd engaging an audience with what you can do is far better. After having 77 ranks every Sunday for the past year, I've realized = that it isn't about loud and fast, its about artistry. I found that people = enjoyed Daquin Noels and Bach Fugues over fast and splashy improvs and = French Toccatas. People get interested when you bring the music alive and = especially when the colors of the organ start to come out. I played a = Vesper Recital this past year where I did the same piece with three = different registrations, and people went wild over it! We need to be = artists more so than workmen!   -Pete Isherwood  
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:07:11 EDT   Hey All, Josh Edwards brought up his recital this Sunday and asked a = question along the lines of his repertoire and level of study. As an = upcoming college junior, I think I should add my two cents. Repertoire, in my eyes, doesn't truly reflect the playing level of an = organist. I feel that a good organist is characterized by his or her = ability to play the studied repertoire WELL and be comfortable and adept = at the instrument. I have tons of friends who are younger than me and can = play Reger, the Durufle Suite, Dupre Passion Symphonie, and other pieces = along these lines, yet these people are terrible with accompanying and = hymns. These people who play lots of major pieces don't play the pieces = well, they just turn them out. Being a good organist and up to your level = of study is all about how you work with the instrument. I have one friend = who has only studied 8 bach chorales, the Franck A minor, Vierne Finale, = and Gigout Toccata in B Minor, and he plays all of it REALLY WELL. Its all = about interpretation, artistry, and musicality. It isn't what you play = (within reason, Mary Had A Little Lamb doesn't qualify), but its HOW WELL = you play it! Having a huge portfolio of piec! es is grand, but wowing people a nd engaging an audience with what you can do is far better. After having 77 ranks every Sunday for the past year, I've realized = that it isn't about loud and fast, its about artistry. I found that people = enjoyed Daquin Noels and Bach Fugues over fast and splashy improvs and = French Toccatas. People get interested when you bring the music alive and = especially when the colors of the organ start to come out. I played a = Vesper Recital this past year where I did the same piece with three = different registrations, and people went wild over it! We need to be = artists more so than workmen!   -Pete Isherwood  
(back) Subject: Re: people-by-the-sea From: "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:19:14 -0700   Does it count that whenever it rains really hard, my storm drain overflows =   and covers the street with a shallow river of water...?   Paul R. Swank Baltimore, MD. USA   At 09:42 AM 7/12/01, you wrote: > From my organbench in St. Andrew's, I look out over Sturgeon Creek, a >wonderful view. > >Russ-by-the-creek >    
(back) Subject: Re: St. George's West, Edinburgh - Alfred Hollins From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:27:39 EDT     --part1_cd.915171d.287f8c6b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/12/2001 11:23:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, caskie@totalise.co.uk writes:   << As I type, I think considerable alterations to the building are about = to occur - I walked past recently to find a notice saying that all services would be in the hall for a few months, and a huge banner proclaiming "Our church is transforming". But I don't know quite what the work entails! >>     << Hope this is of interest >>     Very much. Thanks for taking the time, and I hope you might report back = when you see the results of the transformation. It could be great or a great tragedy.   When David Liddle (who is blind) played at St. George's perhaps 15 years = ago, as a fringe event of the E. Festival, he, of course, included some music = of Hollins, and was thrilled to meet people from the congregation who = remembered Hollins well, and to have people tell him that his playing reminded them = of the master!   Malcolm Wechsler   --part1_cd.915171d.287f8c6b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 7/12/2001 11:23:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>caskie@totalise.co.uk writes: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>&lt;&lt; As I type, I think considerable alterations to the building = are about to <BR>occur - I walked past recently to find a notice saying that all = services <BR>would be in the hall for a few months, and a huge banner proclaiming = "Our <BR>church is transforming". But I don't know quite what the work entails! = &gt;&gt;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">&lt;&lt; Hope this is of interest = &gt;&gt;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Very much. Thanks for taking the time, and I hope you might report = back when <BR>you see the results of the transformation. It could be great or a = great <BR>tragedy. <BR> <BR>When David Liddle (who is blind) played at St. George's perhaps 15 = years ago, <BR>as a fringe event of the E. Festival, he, of course, included some = music of <BR>Hollins, and was thrilled to meet people from the congregation who = remembered <BR>Hollins well, and to have people tell him that his playing reminded = them of <BR>the master! <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler</FONT></HTML>   --part1_cd.915171d.287f8c6b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: "Neo Baroque" Organd was Re: Anecdote - for haters of Quintadenas, Pommers From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:29:11 EDT     --part1_89.942a6fb.287f8cc7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/12/01 2:45:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = ScottFop@aol.com writes:     > Where did people like Phelps (who was by far the worst, at least from = what I > have seen), Holtkamp, Schlicker, Dirk Flentrop . . . .   I would be interested to know, from some of the more well-traveled than I, = if the Busch-Reisinger Flentrop is representative of his work. The only = other Flentrop that I've played is the one built in the early 60s for St. Anne's =   Episcopal Church in Atlanta, Ga. It is 2/34 and very full and rich sounding, well-enhanced by the generous 4+ reverberation of the room. The =   organ has a most incredible Prestant 8 on the Great along with a very = smooth Trompet 8. The only reed in the Swell is a 16 Dulzian which is amazingly =   useful in creating a "full Swell". The full length Fagot 16 in the Pedal = is also smooth and rich.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_89.942a6fb.287f8cc7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 7/12/01 2:45:54 PM Eastern = Daylight Time, ScottFop@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Where did people like Phelps (who was by far the = worst, at least from what I <BR>have seen), Holtkamp, Schlicker, Dirk Flentrop . . . .</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I would be interested to know, from some of the more well-traveled = than I, if <BR>the Busch-Reisinger Flentrop is representative of his work. &nbsp;The = only other <BR>Flentrop that I've played is the one built in the early 60s for St. = Anne's <BR>Episcopal Church in Atlanta, Ga. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is 2/34 and very = full and rich <BR>sounding, well-enhanced by the generous 4+ reverberation of the room. = &nbsp;The <BR>organ has a most incredible Prestant 8 on the Great along with a very = smooth <BR>Trompet 8. &nbsp;&nbsp;The only reed in the Swell is a 16 Dulzian = which is amazingly <BR>useful in creating a "full Swell". &nbsp;The full length Fagot 16 in = the Pedal is <BR>also smooth and rich. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_89.942a6fb.287f8cc7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: "Josh Edwards" <fbcorganist@att.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:40:09 -0400   Pete,   You are absolutely right. I was just wondering what the people thought about my program. I feel the same way about rep. It should be how we do = it (doing it well) not what we do. I feel that my school places too much emphasis on quantity and not quality. Granted I don't have the best organ to practice on (III/32), it does have some wonderful colors about it. Thanks for the input.   Josh Edwards Organist, FBC Seymour, TN     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Oboe32@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:07 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)     Hey All, Josh Edwards brought up his recital this Sunday and asked a = question along the lines of his repertoire and level of study. As an upcoming = college junior, I think I should add my two cents. Repertoire, in my eyes, doesn't truly reflect the playing level of an organist. I feel that a good organist is characterized by his or her = ability to play the studied repertoire WELL and be comfortable and adept at the instrument. I have tons of friends who are younger than me and can play Reger, the Durufle Suite, Dupre Passion Symphonie, and other pieces along these lines, yet these people are terrible with accompanying and hymns. These people who play lots of major pieces don't play the pieces well, = they just turn them out. Being a good organist and up to your level of study is all about how you work with the instrument. I have one friend who has only studied 8 bach chorales, the Franck A minor, Vierne Finale, and Gigout Toccata in B Minor, and he plays all of it REALLY WELL. Its all about interpretation, artistry, and musicality. It isn't what you play (within reason, Mary Had A Little Lamb doesn't qualify), but its HOW WELL you play it! Having a huge portfolio of piec! es is grand, but wowing people a nd engaging an audience with what you can do is far better. After having 77 ranks every Sunday for the past year, I've realized = that it isn't about loud and fast, its about artistry. I found that people enjoyed Daquin Noels and Bach Fugues over fast and splashy improvs and French Toccatas. People get interested when you bring the music alive and especially when the colors of the organ start to come out. I played a = Vesper Recital this past year where I did the same piece with three different registrations, and people went wild over it! We need to be artists more so than workmen!   -Pete Isherwood   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:47:42 EDT     --part1_fb.169e628d.287f911e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/12/01 7:07:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = Oboe32@aol.com writes:     > I feel that a good organist is characterized by his or her ability to = play > the studied repertoire WELL and be comfortable and adept at the = instrument. >   Pete makes an excellent point. There is far too much non-difficult music =   that is very beautiful neglected simply because it is not "hard enough." =   There are wonderful pieces that would make any recital more interesting = and enjoyable. Recitalists should not be afraid to use these pieces.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_fb.169e628d.287f911e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 7/12/01 7:07:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Oboe32@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I feel that a good = organist is characterized by his or her ability to play <BR>the studied repertoire WELL and be comfortable and adept at the = instrument. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Pete makes an excellent point. &nbsp;&nbsp;There is far too much = non-difficult music <BR>that is very beautiful neglected simply because it is not "hard = enough." &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>There are wonderful pieces that would make any recital more = interesting and <BR>enjoyable. &nbsp;Recitalists should not be afraid to use these pieces. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_fb.169e628d.287f911e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)and Then Some From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:48:53 EDT   Dear Pete:   I couldn't agree with you more! Some people can play the harder pieces, but even E. Power Biggs, said he never had the patience to be a good church musician. He did function for a while as a church organist, but his heart was always elsewhere. In his hayday, Virgil Fox only played ten services per year at the Riverside Church NYC. Fred Swann played all the rest of them. He was required to play on Christmas and Easter and eight other occasions of his choice for a $10,000.00 fee. Riverside Church got a big name to play only occasionally, and dedication was dished out by Fred Swann. Twenty-five years worth.   In two weeks I play as many church services as Virgil Fox played all year. Josh is another story! He's young and just wants feed back as to whether his material is good enough to meet the requirements of a sophomore recital. These young people feel a great weight thrust upon their shoulders in order to please others. He probably has the makings of a fine church musician. We need to encourage that too.   Dedication to duty is everything! Organists play when they are well and when under the weather. When in pain, and when they are strong. To be = needed is what drives them. God Bless all dedicated organists no matter how well or how poorly they play. All are necessary and fulfill a sublime office. = They drive through snow and rain, as well as good weather to deliver their gift to God. We can give thanks for that!   Amen   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: RE: program Sunday (Playing Level)and Then Some From: "Josh Edwards" <fbcorganist@att.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:54:03 -0400   Dear Ron:   Beautifully Stated! Thanks!   Josh FBC Seymour, TN     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of RonSeverin@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:49 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)and Then Some     Dear Pete:   I couldn't agree with you more! Some people can play the harder pieces, but even E. Power Biggs, said he never had the patience to be a good church musician. He did function for a while as a church organist, but his heart was always elsewhere. In his hayday, Virgil Fox only played ten services per year at the Riverside Church NYC. Fred Swann played all the rest of them. He was required to play on Christmas and Easter and eight other occasions of his choice for a $10,000.00 fee. Riverside Church got a big name to play only occasionally, and dedication was dished out by Fred Swann. Twenty-five years worth.   In two weeks I play as many church services as Virgil Fox played all year. Josh is another story! He's young and just wants feed back as to whether his material is good enough to meet the requirements of a sophomore recital. These young people feel a great weight thrust upon their shoulders in order to please others. He probably has the makings of a fine church musician. We need to encourage that too.   Dedication to duty is everything! Organists play when they are well and when under the weather. When in pain, and when they are strong. To be = needed is what drives them. God Bless all dedicated organists no matter how well or how poorly they play. All are necessary and fulfill a sublime office. They drive through snow and rain, as well as good weather to deliver their gift to God. We can give thanks for that!   Amen   Ron Severin   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: "Neo Baroque" Organd was Re: Anecdote - for haters ofQuintadenas, Pommers From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:07:31 -0700     --------------40B1FBD2AA98B5F8E2957374 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I haven't heard the Flentrop in Trinity Cathedral (Cleveland), but I'm told by those who have played recitals there that it is a warm "Anglican" sound, with 8' principals all over the place.   IMO, the Flentrop in Warner Concert Hall at Oberlin isn't a distinguished organ (wonder how long before IT'LL be replaced with something more "current", as was the Holtkamp that preceded it?), but it certainly isn't as "spikey" as Busch-Reisinger. Of course, Warner's NOT a great room, either.   The Flentrop at St. Mark's in Seattle could CERTAINLY handle a WIDE range of music.   But then I'm naming large Flentrops in large spaces.   Cheers,   Bud   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 7/12/01 2:45:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ScottFop@aol.com > writes: > > > >> Where did people like Phelps (who was by far the worst, at least >> from what I >> have seen), Holtkamp, Schlicker, Dirk Flentrop . . . . > > I would be interested to know, from some of the more well-traveled > than I, if > the Busch-Reisinger Flentrop is representative of his work. The only > other > Flentrop that I've played is the one built in the early 60s for St. > Anne's > Episcopal Church in Atlanta, Ga. It is 2/34 and very full and rich > sounding, well-enhanced by the generous 4+ reverberation of the room. > The > organ has a most incredible Prestant 8 on the Great along with a very > smooth > Trompet 8. The only reed in the Swell is a 16 Dulzian which is > amazingly > useful in creating a "full Swell". The full length Fagot 16 in the > Pedal is > also smooth and rich. > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --------------40B1FBD2AA98B5F8E2957374 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I haven't heard the Flentrop in Trinity Cathedral (Cleveland), but I'm told by those who have played recitals there that it is a warm "Anglican" sound, with 8' principals all over the place. <p>IMO, the Flentrop in Warner Concert Hall at Oberlin isn't a = distinguished organ (wonder how long before IT'LL be replaced with something more = "current", as was the Holtkamp that preceded it?), but it certainly isn't as "spikey" as Busch-Reisinger. Of course, Warner's NOT a great room, either. <p>The Flentrop at St. Mark's in Seattle could CERTAINLY handle a WIDE range of music. <p>But then I'm naming large Flentrops in large spaces. <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>In a message = dated 7/12/01 2:45:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScottFop@aol.com</font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font size=3D-1>Where did people like Phelps (who was by far the worst, at least from what = I</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>have seen), Holtkamp, Schlicker, Dirk Flentrop . . . = .</font></font></font></blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>I would be = interested to know, from some of the more well-traveled than I, = if</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>the = Busch-Reisinger Flentrop is representative of his work.&nbsp; The only = other</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Flentrop = that I've played is the one built in the early 60s for St. = Anne's</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Episcopal = Church in Atlanta, Ga.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It is 2/34 and very full and rich</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>sounding, = well-enhanced by the generous 4+ reverberation of the room.&nbsp; = The</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>organ has = a most incredible Prestant 8 on the Great along with a very = smooth</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Trompet = 8.&nbsp;&nbsp; The only reed in the Swell is a 16 Dulzian which is = amazingly</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>useful in = creating a "full Swell".&nbsp; The full length Fagot 16 in the Pedal = is</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>also = smooth and rich.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Visit = Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------40B1FBD2AA98B5F8E2957374--