PipeChat Digest #2229 - Saturday, July 14, 2001
 
HAZLETON / FOPPIANO CONCERT AT THE REDFORD
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: HAZLETON / FOPPIANO CONCERT AT THE REDFORD From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:40:13 EDT     --part1_cd.9221543.28810b0d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Next Friday, July 20 at 8:00 pm, there will be a concert of dueling = organists on dueling organs at the Redford Theatre, Grand River at Lahser Road, = Redford Township (Detroit), Michigan.   Tom Hazleton and I will be playing both the Redford's golden voiced Barton =   theatre pipe organ and an Allen 319 digital theatre organ. We will each = play solos on each instrument and then together in duets. The concert promises = to be alot of fun and there will be much theatre organ fare, showtunes, = ballads, marches, transcriptions and a sing along (accompanied by both of us!)   Tickets are $10 at the door. This performance is being underwritten = through the generosity of Evola Music Company and presented in conjunction with = the Motor City Theatre Organ Society.   Please make every effort to attend and bring your family and friends. We hope to see you there!   --part1_cd.9221543.28810b0d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Next Friday, July 20 = at 8:00 pm, there will be a concert of dueling organists <BR>on dueling organs at the Redford Theatre, Grand River at Lahser Road, = Redford <BR>Township (Detroit), Michigan. <BR> <BR>Tom Hazleton and I will be playing both the Redford's golden voiced = Barton <BR>theatre pipe organ and an Allen 319 digital theatre organ. &nbsp;We = will each play <BR>solos on each instrument and then together in duets. &nbsp;The concert = promises to <BR>be alot of fun and there will be much theatre organ fare, showtunes, = ballads, <BR>marches, transcriptions and a sing along (accompanied by both of us!) <BR> <BR>Tickets are $10 at the door. &nbsp;This performance is being = underwritten through <BR>the generosity of Evola Music Company and presented in conjunction = with the <BR>Motor City Theatre Organ Society. <BR> <BR>Please make every effort to attend and bring your family and friends. = &nbsp;We <BR>hope to see you there!</FONT></HTML>   --part1_cd.9221543.28810b0d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 00:28:16 EDT     --part1_ff.8f5ab77.28812460_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/13/01 5:04:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com writes:     > <Im truly stunned that any organist would say that sort of thing at all. = > Firstly, a VAST amount of our literature was written for public worship. = > Secondly, the VAST MAJORITY are in chruches that we serve. Do you = suggest > that useing, God forgive the term, "Sacred Music" is a turn off to = those > with theologically unformed minds? Come now old boy, that cant be so! >   True! A vast amount of literature was written for public worship. = Organ recitals are not public worship, by strict definition. Most organ = recitals are in churches because that's where the organs are. My suggestion is = that using mostly hymn-based music is a turn-off to those attending recitals to =   hear organ literature. I made NO mention of theologically unformed minds =   (that is not for me to judge!). There is just far to much solid organ literature and light organ literature to play without having to resort to chorale preludes which are most often boring. Now if you want to play Reger's big organ pieces with bits of chorale material, or the Dupre Litanies, fine.     <<> I see it quite the opposite. Organ recitals get people in the doors = that > might not otherwise get any churching at all. You seem to sugggest that =   > being an organist isnt a sacred art. I couldnt agree with you less. >   Not what I said at all. Organ recitals, as public worship, are NOT inherently evangelistic "tools". Worship is for the converted. = Evangelism is what they do AFTER they "go into the world". Being an organist is a =   sacred art. Any ministry, or response to God's calling is a sacred art. = Being a lawyer, as a ministry, is a sacred art. You seem to be very judgemental and defensive.     <> One of the reasons "pop" hymnody has become popular is because the good =   > sturdy hymns have fallen by the wayside. We could do something about = that! >   True, but this has nothing to do with organ recitals!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_ff.8f5ab77.28812460_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 7/13/01 5:04:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&lt;Im truly = stunned that any organist would say that sort of thing at all. &nbsp; <BR>Firstly, a VAST amount of our literature was written for public = worship. &nbsp; <BR>Secondly, the VAST MAJORITY are in chruches that we serve. &nbsp;Do = you suggest <BR>that useing, God forgive the term, "Sacred Music" &nbsp;is a turn off = to those <BR>with theologically unformed minds? &nbsp;Come now old boy, that cant = be so! <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">True! &nbsp;&nbsp;A vast amount of literature = was written for public worship. &nbsp;&nbsp;Organ <BR>recitals are not public worship, by strict definition. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Most organ recitals <BR>are in churches because that's where the organs are. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My suggestion is that <BR>using mostly hymn-based music is a turn-off to those attending = recitals to <BR>hear organ literature. &nbsp;&nbsp;I made NO mention of theologically = unformed minds <BR>(that is not for me to judge!). &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There is just far to = much solid organ <BR>literature and light organ literature to play without having to resort = to <BR>chorale preludes which are most often boring. &nbsp;&nbsp;Now if you want to play <BR>Reger's big organ pieces with bits of chorale material, or the Dupre <BR>Litanies, fine. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">&lt;&lt;<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I see it quite the opposite. &nbsp;Organ recitals = get people in the doors that <BR>might not otherwise get any churching at all. &nbsp;You seem to = sugggest that <BR>being an organist isnt a sacred art. &nbsp;I couldnt agree with you = less. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Not what I said at all. &nbsp;&nbsp;Organ recitals, as public worship, = are NOT <BR>inherently evangelistic "tools". &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Worship is for the = converted. &nbsp;Evangelism <BR>is what they do AFTER they "go into the world". = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Being an organist is a <BR>sacred art. &nbsp;&nbsp;Any ministry, or response to God's calling is = a sacred art. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Being a lawyer, as a ministry, is a sacred art. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You = seem to be very <BR>judgemental and defensive. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">&lt;<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">One of the reasons "pop" hymnody has become = popular is because the good <BR>sturdy hymns have fallen by the wayside. &nbsp;We could do something = about that! <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>True, but this has nothing to do with organ recitals! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ff.8f5ab77.28812460_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 00:18:12 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0037_01C10BFA.77E1C9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Glenda, I just started my new position a couple weeks ago. Can't really = =3D say, but I have a feeling they would. The interim organist, who's also = =3D the pastor's wife, gave her masters recital back in April, and there =3D were a number of people from the 6 nearby churches who came. =3D Unfortunately, the organ work in this parish for the last 11 years or so = =3D has been rather absent. I hope to change that very soon.   Normally, I am not really excited about giving recitals. I enjoy =3D playing for worship very much, but it seems like there's too much =3D pressure in a recital setting. A friend of mine lives for it....I =3D don't. To each his own, I say. But, I'm giving serious consideration =3D to starting a concert series, if not this year, then maybe next, and =3D organ recitals will definitely be a part of it. Just like any other =3D musical venue, I think that variety, familiarity, and maybe something =3D rather unique, such as a touch of comedy, might help bring people in. =3D Of course, publicity is a major part of getting people through the door. = =3D If you're recital is for a benefit, such as replacing the 6 bass pipes = =3D in the 16' principal which have collapsed on themselves, then that might = =3D draw people in, but it does take publicity to do that.   Just some thoughts on your question of things I might do to promote a =3D recital...hope this answers your question to some degree.   Regards, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Glenda=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:21 AM Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)     Jeff, do your church members attend the recitals? In my recital =3D series, I will be lucky to have 10 members there, or that many people =3D from DeFuniak, or more than 2-3 AGO members, and generally no music =3D teachers. The bulk are people from outside town who enjoy the scenic =3D 30-minute to 1-hour drive to a small town to hear a quaint little organ = =3D or some really neat classical music.   I'm thrilled if you have managed to sell your church members on coming = =3D to recitals on a regular basis. If you have a secret you're willing to = =3D share, I'm all ears. I even wine and dine the attendees afterward!   Glenda Sutton   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0037_01C10BFA.77E1C9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Glenda, I just started my new = position =3D a couple=3D20 weeks ago.&nbsp; Can't really say, but I have a feeling they =3D would.&nbsp; The=3D20 interim organist, who's also the pastor's wife, gave her masters recital = =3D back in=3D20 April, and there were a number of people from the 6 nearby churches = who=3D20 came.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the organ work in this parish for the last 11 = =3D years=3D20 or so has been rather absent.&nbsp; I hope to change that very=3D20 soon.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Normally, I am not really excited = about =3D giving=3D20 recitals.&nbsp; I enjoy playing for worship very much, but it seems like = =3D there's=3D20 too much pressure in a recital setting.&nbsp; A friend of mine lives for = =3D it....I=3D20 don't.&nbsp; To each his own, I say.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, I'm giving = serious=3D20 consideration to starting a concert series, if not this year, then maybe = =3D next,=3D20 and organ recitals will definitely be a part of it.&nbsp; Just like any = =3D other=3D20 musical venue, I think that variety, familiarity, and maybe something =3D rather=3D20 unique, such as a touch of comedy, might help bring people in.&nbsp; Of = =3D course,=3D20 publicity is a major part of getting people through the door.&nbsp; If =3D you're=3D20 recital is for a benefit, such as replacing the 6 bass pipes in the = 16'=3D20 principal which have collapsed on themselves, then that might draw =3D people in,=3D20 but it does take publicity to do that.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just some thoughts on your question = of =3D things I=3D20 might do to promote a recital...hope this answers your question to = some=3D20 degree.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Regards,<BR>Jeff</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dgksjd85@access.aic-fl.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com">Glenda</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 13, 2001 =3D 7:21 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: program Sunday =3D (Playing=3D20 Level)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jeff, do your church members attend = =3D the=3D20 recitals?&nbsp; In my recital series, I will be lucky to have 10 =3D members=3D20 there, or that many people from DeFuniak, or more than 2-3 AGO =3D members, and=3D20 generally no music teachers. The bulk are people from outside town who = =3D enjoy=3D20 the scenic 30-minute to 1-hour drive to a small town to hear a quaint = =3D little=3D20 organ or some really neat classical music.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thrilled if you have managed to = =3D sell your=3D20 church members on coming to recitals on a regular basis.&nbsp; If you = =3D have a=3D20 secret you're willing to share, I'm all ears.&nbsp; I even wine and =3D dine the=3D20 attendees afterward!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Glenda=3D20 Sutton</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0037_01C10BFA.77E1C9A0--    
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 00:27:46 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0062_01C10BFB.CE41CC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Bruce sez:   True! A vast amount of literature was written for public worship. =3D Organ=3D20 recitals are not public worship, by strict definition. Most organ =3D recitals=3D20 are in churches because that's where the organs are. My suggestion is = =3D that=3D20 using mostly hymn-based music is a turn-off to those attending recitals = =3D to=3D20 hear organ literature. I made NO mention of theologically unformed =3D minds=3D20 (that is not for me to judge!). There is just far to much solid organ = =3D   literature and light organ literature to play without having to resort =3D to=3D20 chorale preludes which are most often boring. Now if you want to = play=3D20 Reger's big organ pieces with bits of chorale material, or the Dupre=3D20 Litanies, fine. =3D20   I reply:   Bruce, I fear we're getting lost in the definition of sacred music here. = =3D I'm not considering choral preludes as the only sacred, hymn-based =3D music out there. There is a lot of literature which is acceptable as =3D use in sacred worship that are not necessarily based on hymns. Any of =3D the Bach preludes, as an example, apply here. However.....and I =3D emphasize this is MY opinion....like many of the Catholic churches, such = =3D as the St. Louis Basilica (New Cathedral, to those in the know), ONLY =3D sacred music is allowed to be performed at ANY musical event taking =3D place in that room. I am a member of the Gateway Ringers, a community =3D auditioned handbell choir, and we performed there in Feb, 2000. We had = =3D some non-sacred stuff in our repertoire and concert series, but had to =3D remove it to play at the Cathedral. Now, while I'm not that extreme, =3D and currently, I serve in an ELCA parish who may have more lenient =3D rules, I feel that it is important to keep the recital to "appropriate" = =3D music for the venue. Now, on occasion, I think it could happen that a =3D church may hold an event which allows for secular. For example, the St. = =3D Louis chapter of the AGO held a meeting recently in which a renowned =3D theatre organist gave a concert to silent films. It felt *strange* to =3D me to be in a church and watching these Laurel and Hardy silents while =3D listening to music being played. While I realize I just contradicted =3D myself, I consider that an unusual circumstance, and to be honest, a =3D silent movie accompaniment would sound TERRIBLE on the 27.5 rank Zimmer = =3D (very baroque) organ at my church.   Regards, Jeff     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0062_01C10BFB.CE41CC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Bruce sez:</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">True! &nbsp;&nbsp;A vast amount of literature was = =3D written for=3D20 public worship. &nbsp;&nbsp;Organ <BR>recitals are not public worship, =3D by strict=3D20 definition. &nbsp;&nbsp;Most organ recitals <BR>are in churches because = =3D that's=3D20 where the organs are. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My suggestion is that <BR>using = =3D mostly=3D20 hymn-based music is a turn-off to those attending recitals to <BR>hear =3D organ=3D20 literature. &nbsp;&nbsp;I made NO mention of theologically unformed =3D minds=3D20 <BR>(that is not for me to judge!). &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There is just far = =3D to much=3D20 solid organ <BR>literature and light organ literature to play without =3D having to=3D20 resort to <BR>chorale preludes which are most often boring. =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;Now if=3D20 you want to play <BR>Reger's big organ pieces with bits of chorale =3D material, or=3D20 the Dupre <BR>Litanies, fine.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></DIV></FONT></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">I reply:</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Bruce, I fear we're getting lost in the definition = =3D of sacred=3D20 music here.&nbsp; I'm not considering choral preludes as the only =3D sacred,=3D20 hymn-based music out there.&nbsp; There is a lot of literature which = is=3D20 acceptable as use in sacred worship that are not necessarily based on=3D20 hymns.&nbsp; Any of the Bach preludes, as an example, apply = here.&nbsp;=3D20 However.....and I emphasize this is MY opinion....like many of the =3D Catholic=3D20 churches, such as the St. Louis Basilica (New Cathedral, to those in the = =3D know),=3D20 ONLY sacred music is allowed to be performed at ANY musical event taking = =3D place=3D20 in that room.&nbsp; I am a member of the Gateway Ringers, a community =3D auditioned=3D20 handbell choir, and we performed there in Feb, 2000.&nbsp; We had = some=3D20 non-sacred stuff in our repertoire and concert series, but had to remove = =3D it to=3D20 play at the Cathedral.&nbsp; Now, while I'm not that extreme, and =3D currently, I=3D20 serve in an ELCA parish who may have more lenient rules, I feel that it = =3D is=3D20 important to keep the recital to "appropriate" music for the =3D venue.&nbsp; Now,=3D20 on occasion, I think it could happen that a church may hold an event =3D which=3D20 allows for secular.&nbsp; For example, the St. Louis chapter of the AGO = =3D held a=3D20 meeting recently in which a renowned theatre organist gave a concert to = =3D silent=3D20 films.&nbsp; It felt *strange* to me to be in a church and watching =3D these Laurel=3D20 and Hardy silents while listening to music being played.&nbsp; While I =3D realize I=3D20 just contradicted myself, I consider that an unusual circumstance, and =3D to be=3D20 honest, a silent movie accompaniment would sound TERRIBLE on the 27.5 =3D rank=3D20 Zimmer (very baroque) organ at my church.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Regards,</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Jeff</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0062_01C10BFB.CE41CC40--    
(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 03:25:44 EDT     --part1_30.179d093c.28814df8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/14/01 1:24:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, reedstop@prodigy.net writes:     > There is a lot of literature which is acceptable as use in sacred = worship > that are not necessarily based on hymns. Any of the Bach preludes, as = an > example, apply here. However.....and I emphasize this is MY > opinion....like many of the Catholic churches, such as the St. Louis > Basilica (New Cathedral, to those in the know), ONLY sacred music is > allowed to be performed at ANY musical event taking place in that room. =     Is music written for funeral processions sacred music?   If so, then Joplin rags are perfectly acceptable. Sheep May Safely = Graze is not actually sacred music, except that Bach considered everything he = wrote "sacred", as it was written for a secular occasion. If music glorifies = God, it is sacred!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_30.179d093c.28814df8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 7/14/01 1:24:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>reedstop@prodigy.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">There is a lot of = literature which is acceptable as use in sacred worship <BR>that are not necessarily based on hymns. &nbsp;Any of the Bach = preludes, as an <BR>example, apply here. &nbsp;However.....and I emphasize this is MY <BR>opinion....like many of the Catholic churches, such as the St. Louis <BR>Basilica (New Cathedral, to those in the know), ONLY sacred music is <BR>allowed to be performed at ANY musical event taking place in that = room. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Is music written for funeral processions sacred music? <BR> <BR>If so, then Joplin rags are perfectly acceptable. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sheep May Safely Graze <BR>is not actually sacred music, except that Bach considered everything = he wrote <BR>"sacred", as it was written for a secular occasion. &nbsp;&nbsp;If = music glorifies God, <BR>it is sacred! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_30.179d093c.28814df8_boundary--