PipeChat Digest #2231 - Sunday, July 15, 2001
 
Re: program Sunday (Playing Level)
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Alfred Hollins' compositions
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: if we DO have to pay singers ...
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: if we DO have to pay singers ...
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Yon's "Mass of the Shepherds" (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: if we DO have to pay singers
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Fwd: Berkshire Record Outlet
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
P/T POSITION, RI
  by <NinaPratt@aol.com>
Re: Fw: free organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
X-post: 33-1/3 Recordings for Sale
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: program Sunday (Playing Level) From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 07:55:37 -0500   > In a message dated 7/14/01 1:24:26 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > reedstop@prodigy.net writes: > >> However.....and I emphasize this is MY >> opinion....like many of the Catholic churches, >> such as the St. Louis >> Basilica (New Cathedral, to those in the >> know), ONLY sacred music is >> allowed to be performed at ANY musical event >> taking place in that room. >   Our church is happy all sorts of music in the church building, feeling that God is the God of creativity and that any music produced by the art of humankind is in a sense to the glory of God. In the past we have had rock concerts, folk festivals, early music groups singing rather bawdy madrigals, and suchlike. Only last we had a blue grass concert given by the group The Flying Mules. We think this is not only appropriate, but highly appropriate and part of what the church should be about.   John Speller St. Mark's Episcopal Church, St. Louis.    
(back) Subject: Re: Alfred Hollins' compositions From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:07:52 EDT     --part1_12d.1677008.28819e28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/13/2001 7:07:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, caskie@totalise.co.uk writes:     >   Not very much, I am afraid. Song of Sunshine and the Trumpet Minuet are = what one hears most, and those not often at all. If you don't know it already, = you might seek out a recording done by David Liddle at Hull City Hall (Priory) = of music of Hollins. Hollins grew up in Hull, and would have known that instrument well. Sadly, the autobiography which I mentioned in an earlier post, A Blind Musician Looks Back, is very hard to find. I was loaned a = copy - it is a wonderful read, and full of insight into the mind and music of = this great man. It also talks a great deal about his grand tours to the U. S. = and other parts of the world. Like a lot of Hollins' music, David Liddle had ready access to the autobiography - in Braille! Some of the music is = *only* available in Braille, although I believe Stainer and Bell have reissued a fair bit of Hollins in recent years. I heartily concur with Mr. Caskie's comment that "it always appeals to audiences and I feel there's more depth = to his music than perhaps appears at first glance."   Cheers on a sunny Saturday, the day before our Danbury POE begins!   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com     --part1_12d.1677008.28819e28_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 7/13/2001 7:07:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>caskie@totalise.co.uk writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">How well known is Hollins in the USA? Is his music played much? = </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Not very much, I am afraid. Song of Sunshine and the Trumpet Minuet = are what <BR>one hears most, and those not often at all. If you don't know it = already, you <BR>might seek out a recording done by David Liddle at Hull City Hall = (Priory) of <BR>music of Hollins. Hollins grew up in Hull, and would have known that <BR>instrument well. Sadly, the autobiography which I mentioned in an = earlier <BR>post, A Blind Musician Looks Back, is very hard to find. I was loaned = a copy <BR>- it is a wonderful read, and full of insight into the mind and music = of this <BR>great man. It also talks a great deal about his grand tours to the U. = S. and <BR>other parts of the world. Like a lot of Hollins' music, David Liddle = had <BR>ready access to the autobiography - in Braille! Some of the music is = *only* <BR>available in Braille, although I believe Stainer and Bell have = reissued a <BR>fair bit of Hollins in recent years. I heartily concur with Mr. = Caskie's <BR>comment that "it always appeals to audiences and I feel there's more = depth to <BR>his music than perhaps appears at first glance." <BR> <BR>Cheers on a sunny Saturday, the day before our Danbury POE begins! <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler <BR>www.mander-organs.com <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_12d.1677008.28819e28_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: if we DO have to pay singers ... From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:26:01 -0400   > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com > Subject: if we DO have to pay singers ... (X-posted) > > The rates I'm being quoted: > > $125-$150 per week (per singer) for one two-hour weekday rehearsal and > two hours (warm-up and Mass) on Sunday. > > $175-$200 per week (per singer) for one two-hour weekday rehearsal and > four hours (warm-up, two Masses, and time in between Masses) on Sunday. > > How does that compare with what other people are paying, if you're > paying? > Bud: In Manhattan, we pay $75 per person for section leaders (in season) and soloists (summer). Section leaders (like the volunteers) rehearse Sunday morning from 9 to 11, and sing from 11 to 12:15. Summer soloists (often the same people) rehearse from about 10 to 11, and sing (psalmody = and two solos) from 11 to 12:15.   Sub organist gets $150 per Sunday for the same schedule; sub pastor gets $150 for two simple masses on weekdays, but $250 for a sung mass on = Sunday.   Actual "scale" for Sunday masses (sub pastor) is $200 here, but we go to $250 just to make it more obviously in excess of what the organist gets.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: if we DO have to pay singers ... From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 07:31:14 -0700   Well, Alan, I think the difference there is that our hired guns have to = make two trips: the weekday rehearsal and the Sunday warm-up and Mass ... travel is always a BIG issue in SoCal, and EVERYBODY expects to get paid for time on = the freeways.   I DO find your comment about wanting to make the pay for a sub pastor MORE = than the pay for a sub organist kinda quixotic, though ... there's at LEAST as = much preparation time and skill required to PLAY a high Lutheran liturgy as = there is to celebrate and preach at one, isn't there?   Cheers,   Bud   Alan Freed wrote:   > > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com > > Subject: if we DO have to pay singers ... (X-posted) > > > > The rates I'm being quoted: > > > > $125-$150 per week (per singer) for one two-hour weekday rehearsal and > > two hours (warm-up and Mass) on Sunday. > > > > $175-$200 per week (per singer) for one two-hour weekday rehearsal and > > four hours (warm-up, two Masses, and time in between Masses) on = Sunday. > > > > How does that compare with what other people are paying, if you're > > paying? > > > Bud: In Manhattan, we pay $75 per person for section leaders (in = season) > and soloists (summer). Section leaders (like the volunteers) rehearse > Sunday morning from 9 to 11, and sing from 11 to 12:15. Summer soloists > (often the same people) rehearse from about 10 to 11, and sing (psalmody = and > two solos) from 11 to 12:15. > > Sub organist gets $150 per Sunday for the same schedule; sub pastor gets > $150 for two simple masses on weekdays, but $250 for a sung mass on = Sunday. > > Actual "scale" for Sunday masses (sub pastor) is $200 here, but we go to > $250 just to make it more obviously in excess of what the organist gets. > > Alan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Yon's "Mass of the Shepherds" (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:05:00 -0700   For those who might want a copy, I have managed to convert it to a WordPerfect graphics file, which SHOULD print on just about anything ... it won't LOOK right on the screen, but I e-mailed it to myself, and it PRINTS just fine. The Kyrie-Sanctus-Agnus runs about 20 pages in full score. I also have versions for unison + organ, and SATB + organ, without the woodwind parts. The "orchestration" is pretty primitive ... just doubling the vocal parts in different order and in different octaves ... but it sounds kinda neat, at least on MIDI.   WARNING: the file is ... er, ah, um ... HUMONGOUS (7800K+). I'm not smart enough to know how to zip it (grin); it took ME a few minutes to receive it, and I have high-speed cable.   Those of you who have Sibelius, of course, I can send it direct, no prob.   What FUN! If I can ever figure out how to do this RIGHT, we can swap all KINDS of music (grin).   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: if we DO have to pay singers From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:07:49 EDT   Bud writes:     >I DO find your comment about wanting to make the pay for a sub pastor = MORE >than >the pay for a sub organist kinda quixotic, though ... there's at LEAST as =   much >preparation time and skill required to PLAY a high Lutheran liturgy as = there is >to celebrate and preach at one, isn't there? <<     Sadly, Bud, this is not the mentality of those who hold the purse strings. = It is amazing how ignorant some are of the many tasks involved in playing = for a service of any liturgy. This is exacerbated when the musician is not familiar with the organ, the acoustics, and proper registrations for that organ, etc. These people seem to think of organists as typists - either = you can or you can't and preparation is a waste of time and "our" money. = These are the first to offer criticism at the first glitch which appears when = the unprepared organist commits a faux pas.   Jim Pitts    
(back) Subject: Fwd: Berkshire Record Outlet From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:35:21 -0400   Sorry for the addy foul up   ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: Mack <mack02445@mindspring.com> To: piprehat@pipechat.org Subject: Berkshire Record Outlet Date: 07/14/2001 2:34:28 PM   Hello Listers,   Saw a reference to this on that OTHER list and though it needed to be = posted here. The Berkshire Record Outlet is an amazing site with bargain prices and over 600 pipeorgan listings in their = catalog.   I reccomend it to all who arer interested in Pipe Oragn CD's.     URL=3D www.broinc.com   Enjoy!!!   Mack   -------- End of forwarded message --------        
(back) Subject: P/T POSITION, RI From: <NinaPratt@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:49:55 EDT   PART-TIME ORGANIST/CHOIR DIRECTOR: RHODE ISLAND   Rehearsals for children's and adult's choirs, Thursday evenings and Sunday =   mornings, fall, winter and spring. No choir during the summer.   Service music for 10 am Sunday Eucharist. Additional services Christmas, Holy Week, St. Peter's Day and Bishop's annual visit.   Additional income from weddings.   Hook & Hastings organ, built 1879, restored by DeLisle 1997-9. Good acoustics in sanctuary.   Salary/benefits negotiable (within AGO guidelines) according to experience =   and qualifications.   Send resume to:   The Rev. Russell Ruffino St. Peter's-by-the-Sea Episcopal Church PO Box 296 Narragansett, RI 02882   or call Fr. Ruffino at: 401-783-4623   or email to: ninapratt@aol.com   Visit our website at: http://www.stpetersbythesea.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: free organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:09:33 -0500   Thank you, David for forwarding the email to interested parties. The = museum probably saw my webpage and wrote me too about the instrument.   Rick    
(back) Subject: X-post: 33-1/3 Recordings for Sale From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:46:41 EDT     --part1_8a.95d0567.288209b1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I have just put up a page listing recordings I would like to sell. = There are organ and organ/choral. All are in good condition and are $5/disc + shipping. To take a look, go to my webpage (HowlingAcres) < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >. There is a link on the homepage = to "Recordings for Sale." I'll even throw in a working turn-table to the person who buys the most recordings!     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_8a.95d0567.288209b1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have just put up a = page listing recordings I would like to sell. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There <BR>are organ and organ/choral. &nbsp;All are in good condition and are = $5/disc + <BR>shipping. &nbsp;&nbsp;To take a look, go to my webpage (HowlingAcres) = &nbsp;&lt; <BR>http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ &gt;. &nbsp;&nbsp;There is a link = on the homepage to <BR>"Recordings for Sale." &nbsp;&nbsp;I'll even throw in a working = turn-table to the <BR>person who buys the most recordings! <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8a.95d0567.288209b1_boundary--