PipeChat Digest #2142 - Monday, June 4, 2001
 
Re: Service List - The Day of Pentecost - St. Matthew's ACC, CostaMesa CA
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Veni Creator
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Destination Trolley (X-posted)
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: Chamber Heaters- Nightmare or Savior? another breif endorsement
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Veni Creator
  by "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Chamber Heaters- Nightmare or Savior? another breif endorsement
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Chamber Heaters- Nightmare or Savior? another breif endorsement
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Jongen organ work
  by "Weber, Richard" <rweber@aero.net>
Re: Jongen organ work
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
Re: Veni Creator
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Veni Creator
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
great site
  by <rustyspiano@webtv.net>
Baldwin Wallace Skinner (X posted)
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Service List - The Day of Pentecost - St. Matthew's ACC, CostaMesa CA USA (X-posted) From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:08:43 -0500   Darn, Bud, I was hoping you would have your choir sing Veni Creator = Spiritus for me!   Regards,   Glenda Sutton (who has no choir to sing it, and the congregation won't)      
(back) Subject: Veni Creator From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:10:14 -0700   We're singing the TEXT ("O Come, Creator Spirit, Come"), but to the = "Jerusalem" TUNE. We've wrestled with it for several years too ... I tried the = Gregorian, the Mechlin/Gregorian, and several modern tunes, none of which seemed to "click".   The Mechlin/Gregorian fits the English word accents better than the = Gregorian, but it's too close to the tune we use for "O Salutaris", and the people = get the two confused.   This is our first outing with the Parry tune ... they've heard the choir = sing it for several years ... hopefully there are enough anglophiles in the = congregation that'll sing it (grin).   Cheers,   Bud-By-The-Beach   Glenda wrote:   > Darn, Bud, I was hoping you would have your choir sing Veni Creator = Spiritus > for me! > > Regards, > > Glenda Sutton (who has no choir to sing it, and the congregation won't) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Destination Trolley (X-posted) From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 08:09:46 -0500   Hi everyone,   Please excuse this off topic message. I'm getting ready to head out the door for the Illinois Railway Museum at Union. If any of you are in the neighborhood, pleez stop in and say hello. I'll be working one of the electric cars, most likely the Chicago PCC if it is running, or one of the =   other cars on the streetcar loop. I also plan to be at the Gateway = tomorrow night for Scott's program.   regards,   Jon    
(back) Subject: Re: Chamber Heaters- Nightmare or Savior? another breif endorsement From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:44:45 EDT   Regarding Scott's post about heating the chambers.   I maintain numerous organs of varying size in the Mid-Atlantic region, and =   have found that having temperature-controlled chambers is very effective (particularly in winter where organs were installed on outside walls with = no insulation between the chambers and the exterior wall mass, be it stone, masonry, whatever.). I always encourage the churches where I am involved = in rebuild/restoration work to install chamber temperature control (read themostatically controlled heaters) as part of the work. I have not had = one instance where this was not beneficial to the tuning stability of the = organ.   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Veni Creator From: "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:29:06 +0100   Come to England! It's quite popular here... I'm doing it tonight at = Choral Evensong... my trebles were quite impressed they were going to be singing the oldest hymn! who says young people only want modern stuff!! It's also nearly always used for ordinations here. I did once consider doing it in Latin but I thought that might be taking it a little too far! Has anyone come across the Jonathan Harvery Come Holy Ghost? It sounds quite mad! = (but I'm sure fun to sing!)   Anyway... got to find something to play for tonight now...   Steve Canterbury UK    
(back) Subject: Re: Chamber Heaters- Nightmare or Savior? another breif endorsement From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:49:37 EDT   In a message dated 6/3/01 9:45:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = RMaryman@aol.com writes:   << Regarding Scott's post about heating the chambers. >>   I have found that heaters in chambers can be a blessing or a curse. I had = to do extensive work on several organs where the drying effects of the = heaters was the cause of the damage. If, however there are steam radiators (not = hot water) in the chambers they will act like humidifiers. Drying adversely affects electro pneumatic organs the worst and trackers to some extent. Direct electric organs suffer mostly in the wooden pipework. Stoppers will =   loosen. Obviously in installations like the Shrine there has to be some = kind of heat in the remote chambers. In smaller installations I have had great success opening up the chambers, putting lots if insulation in the = exterior walls and removing the radiators. Obviously this can't be done without a complete rebuild, a cooperative customer and the right situation. The Wanamaker organ had problems with drying and they put humidifiers on the blower intakes. This solved the problem but I have been told by a = competent reed man that doing this will prematurely corrode the tongues of all the reeds. Which is better, a 455 rank organ that is prone to ciphering or one =   with balky reeds? I'm glad that I don't have to make that decision. = Perhaps someone on the list knows if the reeds in the Wanamaker / Lord and Taylor organ suffered because of the humidifiers.   Cheers:   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: Chamber Heaters- Nightmare or Savior? another breif endorsement From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:08:44 EDT     --part1_ce.159da254.284bc91c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   Well, we DO have humidification at the Shrine as well as the chamber = heaters=3D ..=3D20 This too has more than shown its effectiveness through two winters now. = We=3D =3D20 have the industrial version of an "April Air" unit which is mounted to a = wal=3D l=3D20 in the blower room. It has a direct hot water feed. It is kept at 38% = all=3D20 year round and the humidified air is pulled through the blower and=3D20 distributed throughout the organ. Just by walking into the blower room = one=3D =3D20 can really feel it doing its job. By maintaining that degree of humidity = in=3D =3D20 the blower room, the air going through the reservoirs, chests and pipes = has=3D20 proven extremely successful at eliminating drying out and other heat = related=3D =3D20 problems.   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D     --part1_ce.159da254.284bc91c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D3D"0">Well, we DO have = humidificatio=3D n at the Shrine as well as the chamber heaters.=3D20 <BR>&nbsp;This too has more than shown its effectiveness through two = winters=3D now. &nbsp;We=3D20 <BR>have the industrial version of an "April Air" unit which is mounted to = a=3D wall=3D20 <BR>in the blower room. &nbsp;It has a direct hot water feed. &nbsp;It is = ke=3D pt at 38% all=3D20 <BR>year round and the humidified air is pulled through the blower = and=3D20 <BR>distributed throughout the organ. &nbsp;&nbsp;Just by walking into the = b=3D lower room one=3D20 <BR>can really feel it doing its job. &nbsp;By maintaining that degree of = hu=3D midity in=3D20 <BR>the blower room, the air going through the reservoirs, chests and = pipes=3D20=3D has=3D20 <BR>proven extremely successful at eliminating drying out and other heat = rel=3D ated=3D20 <BR>problems. <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and = L=3D iturgy <BR>THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR><I>=3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat = dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D</I> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_ce.159da254.284bc91c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Jongen organ work From: "Weber, Richard" <rweber@aero.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:52:30 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0015_01C0EC45.32272A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Does anyone know it Joseph Jongen's Sonata Eroica (1930) is in print?   Richard Weber   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0015_01C0EC45.32272A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Does anyone know it Joseph Jongen's<EM> Sonata =3D Eroica</EM>=3D20 (1930) is in print?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Richard Weber</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0015_01C0EC45.32272A60--    
(back) Subject: Re: Jongen organ work From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 17:19:28 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_207091597= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 03:52 PM 03/06/2001 -0500, Weber, Richard wrote: >Does anyone know it Joseph Jongen's Sonata Eroica (1930) is in print? > >Richard Weber   Allegro Music in the UK show it in their catalogue. go to http://www.allegro.co.uk ; get into the organ music catalogue and do =   a search using the words "Sonata Eroica".   HD --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_207091597= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> At 03:52 PM 03/06/2001 -0500, Weber, Richard wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font size=3D2>Does anyone know = it Joseph Jongen's<i> Sonata Eroica</i> (1930) is in print?</font><br> &nbsp;<br> <font size=3D2>Richard Weber</font></blockquote><br> Allegro Music in the UK show it in their catalogue.<br> go to <a href=3D"http://www.allegro.co.uk/" = eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.allegro.co.uk</a> ; get into the organ music catalogue and do a search using the words = &quot;Sonata Eroica&quot;.<br><br> HD</html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_207091597= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: Re: Veni Creator From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:10:09 -0500   Well, Bud, how did it go today?   Glenda Sutton   ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com>   > This is our first outing with the Parry tune ... they've heard the choir sing it > for several years ... hopefully there are enough anglophiles in the congregation > that'll sing it (grin).        
(back) Subject: Re: Veni Creator From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:40:09 -0700   Fine, I think, but I have to check with my spies ... I can't hear anything = but the choir and the organ from where I'm sitting. Nobody COMPLAINED; that's USUALLY a good sign (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Glenda wrote:   > Well, Bud, how did it go today? > > Glenda Sutton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> > > > This is our first outing with the Parry tune ... they've heard the = choir > sing it > > for several years ... hopefully there are enough anglophiles in the > congregation > > that'll sing it (grin). > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: great site From: <rustyspiano@webtv.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:33:15 -0400 (EDT)   i'm really enjoying this site.. check out ours (attached below) rusty   http://community.webtv.net/rustyspiano/keynotes                      
(back) Subject: Baldwin Wallace Skinner (X posted) From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:50:09 -0400   Hello, I am interested to know about a 4 manual E.M. Skinner organ that resides in the Kuhlas Musical Arts Building on the campus of Baldwin Wallace College in Berea Ohio. Any history and current status would be appreciated. I understand it is installed in Fanny Nast Gamble Auditorium inside of Kuhlas, that it its seldom used and is in need of some TLC. Has anybody heard about this organ?   Thanks in advance Mike Gettelman