PipeChat Digest #2146 - Thursday, June 7, 2001
 
Re: Felix Hell in Charleston
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
the Hammond/Suzuki (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Felix Hell in Charleston (typos corrected!)
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Moon pies
  by "jnathan" <jnatpat@infi.net>
Re: Southerners can definitely cook too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Re: Moon pies
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Re: Moon pies
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell in Charleston From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:06:57 -0700 (PDT)   Your right, H-F, and Felix did a great job under those conditions. I'm just saying that those conditions exist sometime and you decide either to accept them or not. If you don't accept them, which is understandable of course, you run the risk of losing the engagement because and organist is easier to fins and engage than a symphony orchestra. Here is San Francisco, organ soloists with the San Francisco Symphony have only a 2 or 3 hours to practice on the Davies Hall instrument before there forst rehearsal with the orchestra, so I'm told.   > And I agree with you, Jackson. But, what I'm saying > s simply > this: I have to prevent Felix for running into open > knifes. > And, to have a certain minimum standard, of what you > can agree, > and what not, has nothing to do with dictating > conditions. And, it has > to be clear from the very beginning, what conditions > exactly we are > talking about. Everybody can decide then for > himself. > And, by the way, we are on a not too bad way to be > able to decide for > ourselves what our minimum standard is, and what we > can agree on. It's > obvious, that we had a useful lesson in Charleston, > Felix, as a performer, and I, who has to negotiate > on lots of > details. That Felix run this situation successfully > after all, is > another point, and was more than an acid test. > > Hans-Friedrich Hell > > >----- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht ----- > >Absender: jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com > >Betreff: Re: Felix Hell in Charleston. > >Empf=E4nger: PipeChat > >Datum: 06. Jun 2001 17:47 > > > > I completely agree, Hans. But we have to also > realize > > that whereas Felix is becoming know as a prodigy, > > particularly in the American organ world, he is at > > this time not really known at all in the general > music > > world. Therefore, a piece of advice given with > warm > > wishes and admiration: If you start dictating to > > orchestras and conductors that if such-and such > > conditions are not met, Felix doesn't play, you > will > > most likely be told, "Thank you and goodbye. We'll > > just hire someone else." There are hundreds of > superb > > and experienced soloists witing in the wings. > Felix > > right now need to build up his career. He has > played > > in many places but still has a long, long way to > go. > > You may just have to except the offers in the > spirit > > of giving young Felix an opportunity that he may > not > > have otherwise had, and orchestral engagement > offers > > don't come every day. Also keep in mind that your > son > > is getting older every year and as he nears the > end of > > his teens he will find himself competing with > people > > his own age who play as well as he does. The > > competition for engagements, solo and orchestral, > will > > be very stiff. If he builds a resume now of these > > kind of experiences, that will stand him in good > stead > > down the road. > > > > --- Hell-Concerts@t-online.de wrote: > > > Yes, I understood, that this is obviously > (often, > > > not always!) > > > the reality. Guilty in this special situation is > > > only one: > > > the manager, who signed the contract (and that's > > > me), naive > > > enough, to believe, the organizers would take > care > > > for a > > > reasonable rehearsal time, without having agreed > > > that in detail in the > > > contract. A seasoned and brillant performer and > > > conductor, with more > > > than 30 years experience, yesterday told me > > > (accidently, he is Felix's > > > organ teacher), that he never would have agreed > to > > > such conditions. > > > He even told me, what his conditions are in such > > > cases, and I was > > > even more surprised about the organizers > > > unreasonable demand. > > > So, as a conclusion, next time, either the > rehearsal > > > time will be > > > agreed on in detail in the contract, or there > will > > > be no recital. Take it or > > > leave it: welcome in the real music world from > > > another > > > point - the soloist's - of view. > > > > > > Hans-Friedrich Hell > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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(back) Subject: the Hammond/Suzuki (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:16:54 -0700   is now sitting in my bedroom. Is this a particularly nasty form of karmic justice (grin)? I thought I'd never see the thing again. Oh well, it's a 61/32 practice clavier. And I CAN'T afford the gas to go to the church. Maybe I'll learn a few notes.   Cheers,   Bud-By-The-Beach    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell in Charleston (typos corrected!) From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:22:27 -0700 (PDT)     --- "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> wrote: Your right, H-F, and Felix did a great job under those conditions. I'm just saying that those conditions exist sometime and you decide either to accept them or not. If you don't accept them, which is understandable of course, you run the risk of losing the engagement because an organist is easier to find and engage than a symphony orchestra. Here in San Francisco, organ soloists with the San Francisco Symphony have only a 2 or 3 hours to practice on the Davies Hall instrument before there first rehearsal with the orchestra, so I'm told. > > > And I agree with you, Jackson. But, what I'm > saying > > s simply > > this: I have to prevent Felix for running into > open > > knifes. > > And, to have a certain minimum standard, of what > you > > can agree, > > and what not, has nothing to do with dictating > > conditions. And, it has > > to be clear from the very beginning, what > conditions > > exactly we are > > talking about. Everybody can decide then for > > himself. > > And, by the way, we are on a not too bad way to be > > able to decide for > > ourselves what our minimum standard is, and what > we > > can agree on. It's > > obvious, that we had a useful lesson in > Charleston, > > Felix, as a performer, and I, who has to negotiate > > on lots of > > details. That Felix run this situation > successfully > > after all, is > > another point, and was more than an acid test. > > > > Hans-Friedrich Hell > > > > >----- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht ----- > > >Absender: jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com > > >Betreff: Re: Felix Hell in Charleston. > > >Empf=E4nger: PipeChat > > >Datum: 06. Jun 2001 17:47 > > > > > > I completely agree, Hans. But we have to also > > realize > > > that whereas Felix is becoming know as a > prodigy, > > > particularly in the American organ world, he is > at > > > this time not really known at all in the general > > music > > > world. Therefore, a piece of advice given with > > warm > > > wishes and admiration: If you start dictating > to > > > orchestras and conductors that if such-and such > > > conditions are not met, Felix doesn't play, you > > will > > > most likely be told, "Thank you and goodbye. > We'll > > > just hire someone else." There are hundreds of > > superb > > > and experienced soloists witing in the wings. > > Felix > > > right now need to build up his career. He has > > played > > > in many places but still has a long, long way to > > go. > > > You may just have to except the offers in the > > spirit > > > of giving young Felix an opportunity that he may > > not > > > have otherwise had, and orchestral engagement > > offers > > > don't come every day. Also keep in mind that > your > > son > > > is getting older every year and as he nears the > > end of > > > his teens he will find himself competing with > > people > > > his own age who play as well as he does. The > > > competition for engagements, solo and > orchestral, > > will > > > be very stiff. If he builds a resume now of > these > > > kind of experiences, that will stand him in good > > stead > > > down the road. > > > > > > --- Hell-Concerts@t-online.de wrote: > > > > Yes, I understood, that this is obviously > > (often, > > > > not always!) > > > > the reality. Guilty in this special situation > is > > > > only one: > > > > the manager, who signed the contract (and > that's > > > > me), naive > > > > enough, to believe, the organizers would take > > care > > > > for a > > > > reasonable rehearsal time, without having > agreed > > > > that in detail in the > > > > contract. A seasoned and brillant performer > and > > > > conductor, with more > > > > than 30 years experience, yesterday told me > > > > (accidently, he is Felix's > > > > organ teacher), that he never would have > agreed > > to > > > > such conditions. > > > > He even told me, what his conditions are in > such > > > > cases, and I was > > > > even more surprised about the organizers > > > > unreasonable demand. > > > > So, as a conclusion, next time, either the > > rehearsal > > > > time will be > > > > agreed on in detail in the contract, or there > > will > > > > be no recital. Take it or > > > > leave it: welcome in the real music world from > > > > another > > > > point - the soloist's - of view. > > > > > > > > Hans-Friedrich Hell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! > Mail > > - only $35 > > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > > organs & related > > topics > > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > > organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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(back) Subject: Re: Moon pies From: "jnathan" <jnatpat@infi.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:28:11 -0500   Cindy Adams wrote:   > It's like I said before, I wasn't born in the South... > but you are correct!! > > Ever heard of Cheerwine? > > Cindy >   Lawsy yes......an indescribable taste...not like a cherry cola, not like Dr. Pepper....very unique. The food TV channel featured it in a special foods episode. Howaboutchya sendin me some......lol   JNP    
(back) Subject: Re: Southerners can definitely cook too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:54:10 -0700 (PDT)     > Hey Glenda, How'd y'all like to have a copy of my > recipe for Jambalaya (if > you don't mind getting it from a Northern boy who > used to live down > South...North Carolina   I'd like a copy. Ah North Carolina....home! "In My Mind I'm Go'in to Carolina".............memories!!       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Moon pies From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:56:51 -0700 (PDT)     > > > > Ever heard of Cheerwine? > > > > Cindy > > > > Lawsy yes......an indescribable taste...not like a > cherry cola, not like > Dr. Pepper....very unique. The food TV channel > featured it in a special > foods episode. > Howaboutchya sendin me some......lol > Sorry, they don't sell it this far south! Last place I saw it was NC but don't know if it is still sold up there!   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Moon pies From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:12:00 -0400   > Cindy Adams wrote: > > It's like I said before, I wasn't born in the South... > > but you are correct!! > > > > Ever heard of Cheerwine? > > Cindy > > Lawsy yes......an indescribable taste...not like a cherry cola, not like > Dr. Pepper....very unique. The food TV channel featured it in a special > foods episode. > Howaboutchya sendin me some......lol > > JNP   JNate, You should be able to get it in North Carolina if you're going to the OHS convention. I believe that it's bottled in Salsbury, NC. Cheers, TommyLee