PipeChat Digest #2155 - Thursday, June 14, 2001
 
Re: french composer anecdotes wanted
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: french composer anecdotes wanted
  by "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net>
Re: french composer anecdotes wanted
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Re: french composer anecdotes wanted
  by "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@acadmn.mercer.edu>
Salt Lake City Cathedral Organist Postion Now Available
  by "Cole, Carroll" <CCole@fourthchurch.org>
Re: Anecdotes about French Composers 4 Jenny S.
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: french composer anecdotes wanted
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: french composer anecdotes wanted
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: french composer anecdotes wanted
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
 

(back) Subject: Re: french composer anecdotes wanted From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:22:49 -0700 (PDT)   A few anecdotes could be helpful as well as amusing, the beret, accent, etc, sound really unnecessary. Why not let the music speak for itself and allow people to be drawn to its own beauty, rather than resorting to cheap gimmicks and turning an art form like a concert into a circus.   --- Jenny Setchell <setchell@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > Hi pipechatters, > My husband Martin will be giving a concert on > August 2 in the > Christchurch Town Hall of french organ music from > the > 19th century - with a little humour (It is as > "Jacques" a typical > Frenchman, complete with beret, baguette and bad > accent!). He would like to recount a few > amusing stories or anecdotes about the composers of > the pieces, who > are: WIDOR, SAINT-SAENS, GIGOUT, GUILMENT, VIERNE, > BONNET, DUBOIS, > FRANCK, LEFEBURE-WELY. There are quite a few > well-know incidents about > Saint-Saens and Vierne, but Bonnet in particular > seems a little > documented man. > If anyone knows any such small personal incidents, > tales, anecdotes > about any of these - their lives, their music, their > activities, > I would be very grateful to hear them. > Cheers, > Jenny > > mailto:setchell@paradise.net.nz > > Look out for the latest exciting CD from the > Christchurch Rieger: > Bonbons for Organ!. > See www.nzorgan.com for details > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: french composer anecdotes wanted From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:31:31 +0100       "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote: > > A few anecdotes could be helpful as well as amusing, > the beret, accent, etc, sound really unnecessary. > Why not let the music speak for itself and allow > people to be drawn to its own beauty, rather than > resorting to cheap gimmicks and turning an art form > like a concert into a circus. > > Why do some organists feel that life is too serious to be enjoyed? Why = do they also feel it is there bounden duty to make sure that no-one else = does either?   Not only do they play what most people consider to be the most boring sounding instrument (other than perhaps the bagpipes ) they also feel that it is appropriate to refer to non-organists as "the great unwashed" -taken from a thread of a few months back.   Come on folks, climb down from your ivory towers and get a life. It is hardly any wonder that the instrument is fighting for its life.   I normally add the word "Cheers" before my name but it hardly seems appropriate in this case.   Colin Hulme.  
(back) Subject: Re: french composer anecdotes wanted From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:19:24 -0400   At 04:49 PM 11/13/2001 +1300, Jenny wrote: > My husband Martin will be giving a concert on August 2 in the > Christchurch Town Hall of french organ music from the >19th century - with a little humour (It is as "Jacques" a typical >Frenchman, complete with beret, baguette and bad accent!). I love it! Reminds me of the way Canuck musical satirists Bowser =   and Blue present their song "You Should Speak French"....right down to conducting with a baguette. ;) More info at www.bowserandblue.com or a file sharing program near you.   Bonus points if the baguette reappears during pieces to emphasize =   the odd phrase! lol   Have fun! (After all, laughter's good for you!) Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: Re: french composer anecdotes wanted From: "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@acadmn.mercer.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:58:54 -0400   I don't know whether this is exactly what you're looking for, but Widor, because of his stature in Paris during his later years, would sign legal documents with just his last name, assuming whoever might need to see it would know exactly who he was.   -Stephen Karr    
(back) Subject: Salt Lake City Cathedral Organist Postion Now Available From: "Cole, Carroll" <CCole@fourthchurch.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:21:18 -0500   I have been asked by the Director of Music and Liturgy of this fine cathedral to post this job listing. Please respond directly to him.   The Cathedral of the Madeleine, 331 East South Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84111 Fax: 801 364 6504 Email:gglenn@madeleinechoirschool.org. Full-time Organist/Assistant Director of Music primarily responsible for providing organ literature, service music and choral literature accompaniment for Roman Catholic Worship Services. Daily rehearsals and music theory classroom instruction in the Cathedral Choir School. = Assistance with administration and direction of Cathedral Music Department. Send = resume and three professional references to Gregory Glenn by mail, fax or email.   C. Carroll Cole, Coordinator of Fine Arts Fourth Presbyterian Church 126 East Chestnut Street, Chicago, IL 60611-2094 312.787.2729, ext. 252 facsimile 312.787.4584 ccole@fourthchurch.org <http://www.fourthchurch.org>      
(back) Subject: Re: Anecdotes about French Composers 4 Jenny S. From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:03:59 EDT   Dear Jenny:   When Marcel Dupre was born, Alexander Guilmant, upon examining the child's hands prophesied, "This will be an organist." Indeed, = according to Michael Murray, this was to be such an organist as the world had ever seen.   It appears that Ceasar Frank, and 15 year old Louis Vierne were also present at the birth of Marcel Dupre. Franck asked Louis, Do I frighten you so very much?" To which Louis replied, "Oh, yes, Monsieur Franck!" Franck asked, "Why is that?" The reply, Because you are a genius." ---"Genius? Who told you that? Reply, Uncle Charles and everybody here. I heard you at Saint Clotilde when I was ten, and I nearly died of happiness. Fr. Replied, Why? Louis replied, Because it was so beautiful, I wanted it to never end. Fr. replied, As beautiful as that? Why did you think it was so beautiful? Louis replied, because it took hold of my heart. It hurt me, and made me feel good at the same time. It transported me to a place filled with music. Fr. replied, In that place, my dear child, the music is better. There we shall know how. Frank tells Louis that he will be taking organ next year, and to apply himself, and when ready he will be in Franck's class.   Marcel's DOB May 3, 1886, in Rouen. Marcel was to succeed Widor, and become successor, heir and consumation of Vierne, Widor, Frank and Guilmant, rising to heights that only they could immagine!   Charles M. Widor was so well known in Paris, that any legal papers he signed just said "Widor."   All the best Jenny,   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: french composer anecdotes wanted From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:47:31 -0700 (PDT)   This has nothing to do with enjoying life, but rather illustrates why the organ is not always accepted as a legitimate concert instrument by the rest of the musical world. No concert pianist of violinist would ever think of resorting to such antics during a recital. Neither should the organist. It's about time we take our art seriously and leave the foolishness at home.   Great playing of great repertoire makes a much more positive, artistic statement for the organ than some guy standing in front of an audience talking in a ridiculous parody of a French accent.   --- Colin Hulme <colin_hulme@lineone.net> wrote: > > > "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote: > > > > A few anecdotes could be helpful as well as > amusing, > > the beret, accent, etc, sound really unnecessary. > > Why not let the music speak for itself and allow > > people to be drawn to its own beauty, rather than > > resorting to cheap gimmicks and turning an art > form > > like a concert into a circus. > > > > Why do some organists feel that life is too > serious to be enjoyed? Why do they also feel it is > there bounden duty to make sure that no-one else > does either? > > Not only do they play what most people consider to > be the most boring > sounding instrument (other than perhaps the bagpipes > ) they also feel > that > it is appropriate to refer to non-organists as "the > great unwashed" > -taken from a thread of a few months back. > > Come on folks, climb down from your ivory towers and > get a life. It is > hardly any wonder that the instrument is fighting > for its life. > > I normally add the word "Cheers" before my name but > it hardly seems > appropriate in this case. > > Colin Hulme. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: french composer anecdotes wanted From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:07:03 -0500   Oh, did you want "TRUE story" anecdotes? Darn, and I was working so hard = to make up some doozies. Like the time that Guilmant was visiting London, = and after a rousing recital, while descending the stairs from the organ loft = he lost his balance and fell right into the arms of his good friend Widor, = who was in town visiting scurrilous relatives while pretending to be doing important things. Widor responded to the stimulus and the lure of gravity by landing on his area of greatest padding (at that time in his life - the mid-early-late-youth period). From then on Guilmant referred to his = friend as "my London derriere".   Take it away, Ken - I'm all done here.   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: french composer anecdotes wanted From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:23:50 +0800   Lighten up Jackson! I seem to remember several performers clowning their way into considerable fame and fortune. That they were concert artists in their own right is beyond argument. And "not accepted as a legitimate concert instrument"? You are talking about the organ aren't you? I wonder if you are in the same world as I am? Bob Elms.   "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote: > This has nothing to do with enjoying life, but rather > illustrates why the organ is not always accepted as a > legitimate concert instrument by the rest of the > musical world. No concert pianist of violinist would > ever think of resorting to such antics during a > recital.