PipeChat Digest #2169 - Tuesday, June 26, 2001
 
lost track of Bud
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: lost track of Bud
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: lost track of Bud
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: lost track of Bud
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by "Eric Smith" <gforcesmith@yahoo.com>
Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Toccata and Fugue in D minor
  by "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Alternatives to Bach d minor
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
T & F in d minor
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
IRC tonight
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by "Jerald Marshall" <marshallduet@ameritech.net>
Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: flood
  by "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net>
Strange Preludes...
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
 

(back) Subject: lost track of Bud From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:25:34 -0500   Hey Bud-   I see your listings of services, but have lost track of the continuing saga: What are you using for an organ now since the Moeller is in = waiting?   Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: lost track of Bud From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:42:26 -0700   The Hamzuki died three weeks before Easter; we bought a used Allen 301-C.   Cheers,   Bud   VEAGUE wrote:   > Hey Bud- > > I see your listings of services, but have lost track of the = continuing > saga: What are you using for an organ now since the Moeller is in = waiting? > > Rick > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: lost track of Bud From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:15:43 -0400   Dear Bud, So what do you think of the Allen 301c. What kind of organ is = it. Is it all digital or part digital and part analog. I must have had my head up and in gear when this model came out. Is that an ADC organ or a MDC. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: +ACI-VEAGUE+ACI- +ADw-dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net+AD4- To: +ADw-pipechat+AEA-pipechat.org+AD4- Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:25 AM Subject: lost track of Bud     +AD4- Hey Bud- +AD4- +AD4- I see your listings of services, but have lost track of the = continuing +AD4- saga: What are you using for an organ now since the Moeller is in waiting? +AD4- +AD4- Rick +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +ACI-Pipe Up and Be Heard+ACEAIg- +AD4- PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs +ACY- related = topics +AD4- HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org +AD4- List: mailto:pipechat+AEA-pipechat.org +AD4- Administration: mailto:admin+AEA-pipechat.org +AD4- Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests+AEA-pipechat.org +AD4-    
(back) Subject: Re: lost track of Bud From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:25:25 -0700       Paul Valtos wrote:   > Dear Bud, So what do you think of the Allen 301c. What kind of organ is = it. > Is it all digital or part digital and part analog. I must have had my = head > up and in gear when this model came out. Is that an ADC organ or a MDC. > Paul   It's 1976 ... early-generation 2-channel digital (flutes still come = through a gyro; principals, reeds, strings through a single stationary cabinet), with a = tuneable analog celeste "rank". It's so-so ... adding big 8' stops with the = card-reader helps a LOT ... the basic sound was neo-germanic, as that was what was popular = back then .... the stop-names are mostly in German (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: "Eric Smith" <gforcesmith@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT)   Hi everyone. I'm 14 years old and relatively new at playing the pipe organ. I was wondering if anyone has played the Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor at a service and what were the results. I've been working on it for a little bit and would like some help. Thanks.   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:39:10 EDT   In a message dated 6/25/01 5:02:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gforcesmith@yahoo.com writes:   << I was wondering if anyone has played the Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor at a service and what were the results. >>   This is sometimes done but is not always a good idea. This piece is too = often associated with horror movies and the like. I know of at least one = organist that was fired after playing it. He had been however, having problems and = the T&F in D was the straw that broke the camels back "We got the phantom of = the opera in there!" was the comment of one church member.   Good luck:   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Toccata and Fugue in D minor From: "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:07:25 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001E_01C0FDCB.98E66BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Well, it's one of those pieces that I usually get a round of applause =3D for - that and the Lefebure Wely Sortie in E-flat! (did that one =3D yesterday for a parishoner who is leaving us to be ordained next =3D Saturday)   I think getting the sack for playing it could be an extreme reaction! Go = =3D on! be brave! (especially if you've spent so much time preparing it!)   Steve Canterbury UK     ------=3D_NextPart_000_001E_01C0FDCB.98E66BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well, it's one of those pieces that I = =3D usually get a=3D20 round of applause for - that and the Lefebure Wely Sortie in E-flat! =3D (did that=3D20 one yesterday for a parishoner who is leaving us to be ordained next=3D20 Saturday)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think getting the sack for playing = it =3D could be an=3D20 extreme reaction! Go on! be brave! (especially if you've spent so much =3D time=3D20 preparing it!)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Steve</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Canterbury</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>UK</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001E_01C0FDCB.98E66BC0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:02:54 EDT     --part1_103.534421c.28691d1e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Eric, I think the only thing you could do to elicit complaints about the T&F in D-minor at a service would be to play it too loud. Most people in the congregation would be thrilled to hear it, especially played by a young organist.   An organist once told me when I substituted for her:   It doesn't matter what you do, as long as you do it softly! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_103.534421c.28691d1e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Eric, <BR>I think the only thing you could do to elicit complaints about the = T&amp;F in <BR>D-minor at a service would be to play it too loud. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Most people in the <BR>congregation would be thrilled to hear it, especially played by a = young <BR>organist. <BR> <BR>An organist once told me when I substituted for her: &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>It doesn't matter what you do, as long as you do it softly! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_103.534421c.28691d1e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:18:21 +0100   I visited a church in Dundee yesterday, where I used to do some practice = on the fine organ. At the close of the service, the assistant organist played the Toccata, and then in a blink of an eye, the organist slid along the bench, replacing the assistant, to play the Fugue!   Andrew    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:25:58 -0400   in all the years I've been playing, I've never played it in church. In my eyes, it's a concert piece. I suppose you could get away with playing the fugue, but I'd rather play it in concert, that way the audience is = sitting, and they can enjoy it. If it's played as either a prelude or a postlude, people aren't paying attention, especially if it's a postlude..........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:28:21 -0400     --------------71C72F2824A1250F18DAC111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   How intriguing. I don't think I have ever heard it played softly. Can you suggest an appropriate recording? Mike   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > Eric, > I think the only thing you could do to elicit complaints about the T&F > in > D-minor at a service would be to play it too loud. Most people in > the > congregation would be thrilled to hear it, especially played by a > young > organist. > > An organist once told me when I substituted for her: > > It doesn't matter what you do, as long as you do it softly! ;-) > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --------------71C72F2824A1250F18DAC111 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> How intriguing. I don't think I have ever heard it played softly. Can you suggest an appropriate recording? <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Eric,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>I think the only thing = you could do to elicit complaints about the T&amp;F in</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>D-minor at a service = would be to play it too loud.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most people in the</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>congregation would be = thrilled to hear it, especially played by a young</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>organist.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>An organist once told me when I substituted for her:</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>It doesn't matter what = you do, as long as you do it softly!&nbsp; ;-)</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>with the Baskerbeagles = in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Visit Howling Acres = at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------71C72F2824A1250F18DAC111--    
(back) Subject: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:49:02 EDT   Ladies and Gentlemen:   There are several reasons to avoid playing this work, although I DID hear = a recent concert performance, during the dedicatory recital series of an = organ, in which the piece was played very intelligently and effectively.   Let us start by saying that playing the work "softly" is abjectly absurd. =   The complete market saturation and overplaying of the work has diminished = its impact, and to further dilute it by violating an obvious performance = practice will NOT make the work more palatable, or cause the organ to be taken any more seriously by the listening public. The free compositions, especially = one like the Toccata in question, were intended for Organo Pleno.   The fact that recent scholarship suggests that the Toccata might not be = from the hand of Bach, and might, in fact, point more toward STRING writing of = the period than keyboard writing, is also a mitigating factor.   There are many Preludes and Fugues amongst The Great 24 which are much = finer examples of Bach's writing -- among them those in D, two in C, and those = in b and e. The Toccata and Fugue in F, the most expansive of the set, is also =   very fine, and is one of the many in which the Praeludium and Fugue were composed at different times and matched at a later date. The spectacular E-flat pair, framing the Clavierubung III, constitutes far greater writing =   and would certainly be more edifying for the average audience, whether at = a worhip service or a concert. It is certainly a monument to Bach's intellectual maturity.   Whatever you do, just don't make it your ONLY Bach work on the program, = and do NOT make it your opener. You'll regret it. Yes, yes, many people will =   attack me on this, but deep, deep down in our heart of hearts, we know the =   truth about what audiences think when this happens. If it is an all-Bach concert, it makes a good starter for the second half or end of the first half. Another idea is a concert of "The Great Fugues of Bach," thereby AVOIDING the stigma of that work that continues to plague us in our quest = to be taken seriously.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck Tonal Director Gluck New York, Inc. Pipe Organ Restorers and Builders  
(back) Subject: Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:51:01 -0700 (PDT)     adding two cents: People (even in congregations) love to hear the T & F. = Whenever I demonstrate the organ to a group of folk, there are 4 pieces that are always requested = (in this order)   1. "The Phantom of the Opera" i.e. T & F 2 & 3. The Wagner and Mendelssohn wedding marches 4. Widor Toccata   Whether or not the T & F is appropriate service music is up to each one of = us to decide for ourselves. One way or another, people love hearing it.   I remember the first time I heard it played for a service. I was a young = college freshman and I thought it incredibly tacky and totally inappropriate, and I still feel = that way. But do I play it in church - yes, every few years I do, as a postlude. It is great P.R. and = I do enjoy doing it!   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:53:37 -0400   I happen to think this is the most overly played piece in the world. I can count on one hand the number of times I've played it in concert. Go out = and buy 100 organ CD's, and I'll bet that this piece is on more than 80 of them...........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Alternatives to Bach d minor From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:54:58 EDT   There is ANOTHER d minor, I believe with the Prelude for manuals only, = with a very passionate fugue (which also appears in the literature as a violin work), which is a great piece to learn, and there is a beautiful Prelude = and Fugue in A Major, with opportunities for very beautiful interpretation.   These two sorely overlooked works, rarely played, are quite special, and = for somebody of your age, would really teach you a great deal about the brain = and soul of Bach. And they CAN be played on smaller registrations, quite effectively, as theire compositional origins lie away from the keyboard, = and come from the mind of a string player (Bach was a notable violinist and violist). Try these out -- if you want, I can look up the BWV numbers for =   you. You'll break new ground, and learn a lot more, by playing these = instead of the standard d minor.   SMG  
(back) Subject: T & F in d minor From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:57:18 -0700   As usual, I agree with Sebastian (grin). I think the Toccata and Fugue in d minor has been sullied beyond all redemption, Schweitzer's remarks about it being about the Last Judgment notwithstanding (the opening of the Toccata being the Last Trump, and the Fugue the dead rising).   Leave it to the theatre organists and the horror movies and these prankish Halloween concerts that some folks seem compelled to play.   I've never played it ... in church or otherwise. If nothing else, I don't think it's great music.   Cheers,   Bud-By-The-Beach    
(back) Subject: IRC tonight From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:59:17 -0700   David asked me to pass along that PipeChat IRC *will* happen tonight, and the North Carolina contingent expects to be on, depending when they get back from the evening recital.   Cheers,   Bud-By-The-Beach    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: "Jerald Marshall" <marshallduet@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:20:57 -0400   Eric,   Make a go for it! I've been organist for 25 years. And every church that I haved served in has gotten the GRAND taste of the d minor. And after you haved completed that mission. Start working on Bach's = "Dorian" Toccata and Fugue in d minor, another piece that can be lots of fun!   Good Luck in your organist career, make it a big success!   Jerald Marshall Organist & Choir United Methodist Church Painesville, Ohio        
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:01:32 EDT   Hi Sebastian:   I know you mean well, but this is a fourteen year old kid who wants to impress his mom and his sister playing the T&F after a church service. :) He hasn't played organ for very long, and is stary eyed, bushy tailed, and enthusiastic. To him it's the biggest event in his short life. :)   Regards,   Ron Severin   PS I remember being fourteen, my voice changed, couldn't drive a car, I had pimples and was very fat. UGHHH!  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:03:38 EDT     --part1_dd.1672f0ff.2869396a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   My feeling is, if the student is ready to play it, let him play it. If = not, he will fall flat on his patusky (figuratively speaking).   The student should be encouraged to offer the BAch T&F as an offering to = God, not to impress his family. But hey, that's my view.   Neil B   --part1_dd.1672f0ff.2869396a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>My feeling is, if the student is ready to play it, let him play = it. &nbsp;If not, <BR>he will fall flat on his patusky (figuratively speaking). <BR> <BR>The student should be encouraged to offer the BAch T&amp;F as an = offering to God, <BR>not to impress his family. &nbsp;But hey, that's my view. <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_dd.1672f0ff.2869396a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:10:13 EDT   Hi:   Will you guys stop getting carried away. The originator of the thread is of the tender age of fourteen. He needs encouragement! I remember when I was fourteen, E.Power Biggs just made a LP with fourteen different organs all playing the T&F. I wore the darn thing out until it barely played. I learned to play it by ear on my G'mother's piano. I litterally drove people nuts until I could play it on a pipe organ. I used to haunt an organ shop in LA begging to play on their shop model. They let me, and I was their friend forever. Pant! Pant! I feel better now having gotten that heavy burden off my immortal soul. :)   Regards,   Ron Severin   http://www.musicbase.org/E/SEV001.html http://www.churchorgansystems.com.html/products Fax:1-208-439-6781 Church Organ Systems of Orange County J=E4ger und Brommer Orgelbau St. Mary's by the Sea  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:48:46 EDT     --part1_6.188d6248.286943fe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/25/01 7:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mike3247@earthlink.net writes:     > How intriguing. I don't think I have ever heard it played softly. Can = you > suggest an appropriate recording? >   I can't suggestion a recording, since I'm beginning to believe that people =   don't like to record quiet organ music. Everything must be loud and = fast (an overstatement, but that is how it often seems to me).   A "soft" registration for the toccata might be to begin on principals 8 = and 4 coupled to moderately full swell with the box shut. This gives you the strength and presence of the unenclosed organ and the richness of the = reeds. The swell box can then be used to give the music "expression". Dialog sections could be played between the swell and great by uncoupling the manuals and retiring the swell reeds, or could also be a dialog between = the flutes (8-4 8-2 etc) of the choir and great, or choir and swell. Then a return to the original registration to the conclusion.   The fugue is amazing when played on one clear 8' flute, using a 4' flute = on another manual for the dialog, and an 8' flute in the pedal. It's very = light and airy, and I've had many people tell me they actually prefer it this = way.   If you do this for the prelude, for the postlude you could play it again = on full registration.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_6.188d6248.286943fe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 6/25/01 7:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>mike3247@earthlink.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">How intriguing. I = don't think I have ever heard it played softly. Can you <BR>suggest an appropriate recording? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I can't suggestion a recording, since I'm beginning to believe that = people <BR>don't like to record quiet organ music. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Everything = must be loud and fast <BR>(an overstatement, but that is how it often seems to me). <BR> <BR>A "soft" registration for the toccata might be to begin on principals = 8 and 4 <BR>coupled to moderately full swell with the box shut. &nbsp;This gives = you the <BR>strength and presence of the unenclosed organ and the richness of the = reeds. &nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;The swell box can then be used to give the music "expression". = &nbsp;&nbsp;Dialog <BR>sections could be played between the swell and great by uncoupling the =   <BR>manuals and retiring the swell reeds, or could also be a dialog = between the <BR>flutes (8-4 8-2 etc) of the choir and great, or choir and swell. = &nbsp;Then a <BR>return to the original registration to the conclusion. <BR> <BR>The fugue is amazing when played on one clear 8' flute, using a 4' = flute on <BR>another manual for the dialog, and an 8' flute in the pedal. = &nbsp;It's very light <BR>and airy, and I've had many people tell me they actually prefer it = this way. <BR> <BR>If you do this for the prelude, for the postlude you could play it = again on <BR>full registration. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6.188d6248.286943fe_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: flood From: "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:40:19 -0400   At 01:19 PM 06/19/2001, you wrote:   >Anyone else out there hear anything?     The worst of the storm hit a section that included a small portion of Philadelphia, eastern Montgomery County, and central Bucks County. It is where the remains of Tropical Storm Allison coming from the south and a strong Low that came in from the West collided.   Therefore, anything in downtown Philly and in central/southern New Jersey (as well as Delaware) should be fine.   I don't know what the storm did as it headed away from here.   --Shirley      
(back) Subject: Strange Preludes... From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:02:13 -0400   Hi,   What are some of the strangest things anyone has done for service music? Yesterday, I played "Old McDonald had a Farm." I played it in a = "churchy," chorale prelude style. A few people noticed, but most didn't.   It came about like this: Bible School is this week, and it has a farm theme. They have been steadily decorating the sancturay with farm things, such as straw bales, a cultivator, canned food, and various animals. For the last 3 weeks, I have been sharing the organ console with 3 stuffed = hens.   So, I decided to pick out special music music with a farm theme. Last = week I did "All creatures of out God and King-" Paul Manz, "Morning-" William Stickles (What happens on a farm in the morning? Yes! The rooster = crows), and an arrangement of the Doxology by David N. Johnson (thinking specifically of the line "Praise Him all creatures...).   Yesterday, I played "Jesus Makes my Heart Rejoice-" Johannes Herbst (this, = a little Moravian hymn that talks about sheep and shepherds), "Old = McDonald," "As pants the deer-" Nystrom (sp?), and "Now Thank we All our God-" Paul Manz.   Best wishes, Mike