PipeChat Digest #2172 - Wednesday, June 27, 2001
 
Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Bach T+F in d (SERIOUS)RE to Mandy
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph)
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re:Wedding
  by <CdyVanpool@aol.com>
Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Alternatives to Bach d minor
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@msn.com>
Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Wedding
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Edition SIMROCK
  by <Robert_Lind@cch.com>
Re: Strange Preludes...
  by "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net>
Re: Bach T+F in d (SERIOUS)RE to Mandy
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Looking for........
  by "Bob North" <bnorth@intergate.ca>
Thanks for "Precious Memories"!
  by "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net>
IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS)
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: IRC
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph)
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:21:46 -0700 (PDT)     --- TubaMagna@aol.com wrote:   Another idea is a concert of "The Great > Fugues of Bach," thereby > AVOIDING the stigma of that work that continues to > plague us in our quest to > be taken seriously.   Whereas I normally agree with Sebastian's highly intelligent and informed comments, I think it would be the worst possible idea to play a concert of fugues. Have you ever watched an audience during a performance of a fugue? Massive yawning, attention wandering--in short, it is the musical form, academic in nature, that most alienates an audience. JW   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach T+F in d (SERIOUS)RE to Mandy From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:25:26 -0700 (PDT)   The six trio sonatas are great works and universally admired. They are also moving and charming. Where did you get the idea that it is a sin to like them? Whoever feels they are not well written pieces doesn't know much about music.   --- AMADPoet@aol.com wrote: > You said it, Ron: if someone is hearing or playing > the Bach T&F for the first > time, it knocks them over- as it is supposed to do. > As Beethoven's Fifth > does, for example. > > I still enjoy listening to this piece every now and > then, as long as it isn't > a bad recording. But then I'm one of those people > who ENJOYS- who positively > DROOLS over Bach's Trio Sonatas, which seems to be a > sin or something. ;o) > > Mandy > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph) From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:41:56 -0700 (PDT)   I really don't know where you get your information from and I feel the need to make a couple corrections. See below point by point: --- RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > Hi List: > > I just checked my copy of the Organists Book of Days > and Bruce > Prince Joseph isn't listed in the index. He was very > prominent at > one time, and just faded away. Is there anybody that > can fill in the > gaps? There were some albums of music that he edited > that were > quite interesting. > > Bach himself along with Albert Schweitzer, probably > would be considered > slow, thoughtful players. European players between > those two periods > at the very least took great care with articulation, > phrasing, ornaments > etc. and played organs in buildings where live > acoustics reigned. Counter- > point becomes a miserable blur at high speeds. and > the point of the > music entirely missed. You don't jog down a seven > course meal in five > minutes, why do it to music, except for an ego trip. > Schweitzer for all the > hits he's taken, and Widor who played his Toccata > from the fifth Sym. slow, > in a recording were right. The remark made about > Widor was that he was > old, checking the original makings he was right on > target. Scholarship is > one thing, and egoship is mostly the opposite.   Schweitzer did in fact play slowly, but Bach was known as a great virtuoso organist and violinist. There are reports about the incredible pedal technique he possessed. His harpsichord Toccatas require speed and agility (see all those passages with 32nd notes!) You might read Peter Williams or KPE Bach for further information on Bach's own plaing style.   Secondly, fast tempos are sometimes very exciting. YOu could hear everything Virgil did because his sense of rhythm and structure were so acute.   Thirdly, Widor was in fact in his 80's when he made that recording and it was difficult for him to play that work up to speed with the manuals coupled at Saint Sulpice. Also, he took into account the almost 10 second reverberation. The Toccata is highly effective and exciting at a quicker tempo. You might want to read the two recent biographies of Widor that have come out in the past 7 years. > > According to E. Power Biggs, and it makes perfect > sense to me, used to > trot out this particular piece, T&F in D minor, to > test the lungs of an organ > and interplay with the live acoustics of a given > building. A totally dead > room won't do much with this piece. A nice well > temper organ helps too. > > I see organ builders time after time slavishly build > organs with supposedly > Baroque scales and voicing, and you guessed it tuned > in equal. It makes > absolutely no sense. These instruments sound clashy > and hard and > don't blend very well. Bach organs of the period > were tuned in 1/4 Comma > Meantone, some in 1/5th and 1/6th. Cone tuning in > Equal also seals the > fate of most of these Baroque copies. French organs > of the 17th and 18th > centuries the same, some form of meantone. I guess > what I'm saying is, > if you're going to build for a specific repertoir, > tune it specifically for > the > best results not standard conventions. We are > kidding ourselves srwise.   Many instruments in Bach's country and time--that he plaed as well, were tuned in Kirnberger or Werkmeister temperament. In fact this was more common form the middle of the 18th century.   > The average Joe and Mary, and Orchestral Conductors > are Ho Hum at > best about our instrument, Why is that? There is an > answer? Think about it!   This is not quite accurate. Two major conductors in the world today started out as organists: Alexander Frey and Andrew Davis. In fact, Frey still maintains a career as a concert organist along with his conducting and piano engagements, and Davis sometimes conducts that Saint-Saens "Organ" Symphony from the console. Also, look at the several recent installations of concert hall organs. None of those instruments would have seen the light of day if the resident Maestros were against the organ. Stokowski was the organist at Saint Barthalomew's in NYC and orchestrated several Bach organ works. Many other European conductors were organists and dupport the organ completely.   > Regards, > > Ron Severin > > > http://www.musicbase.org/E/SEV001.html > http://www.churchorgansystems.com.html/products > Fax:1-208-439-6781 > Church Organ Systems of Orange County > J=E4ger und Brommer Orgelbau > St. Mary's by the Sea > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re:Wedding From: <CdyVanpool@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:43:27 EDT   Hi guys.... Thanks for the hymns. I would rather use the hymns, after =   all, I think it it's Christian service....<G> (Lord, I hope I'm not the sacrifice if they are displeased....<G>) I know, and have, all those hymns, but I was not aware of their Irish heritage. So, no matter how it really goes,(and it will go fine) I learned about = these hymns, and that alone is worth having to play for this wedding . Thank you =   very much for your time and knowledge.   Van  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:26:48 -0700   Nope, sorry, Jackson ... Bach fugues are only boring if the PLAYER is boring.   I ended my senior recital with the Toccata AND FUGUE in F Major, which was heresy at the time ... NOBODY played that fugue, seemingly. But I found in later years I played the fugue FAR more often than the toccata.   I usually play "popular" and "accessible" literature in church; but in THIS case, if they don't like fugues, let 'em eat counter-subjects (grin).   Cheers,   Bud-By-The-Beach   "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote:   > --- TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > > Another idea is a concert of "The Great > > Fugues of Bach," thereby > > AVOIDING the stigma of that work that continues to > > plague us in our quest to > > be taken seriously. > > Whereas I normally agree with Sebastian's highly > intelligent and informed comments, I think it would be > the worst possible idea to play a concert of fugues. > Have you ever watched an audience during a performance > of a fugue? Massive yawning, attention wandering--in > short, it is the musical form, academic in nature, > that most alienates an audience. > JW > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Alternatives to Bach d minor From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@msn.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:12:13 -0500   I, and I am sure others would also appreciate those BWG and or Peeters Numbers. Thanks, Bill   ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: Alternatives to Bach d minor     > There is ANOTHER d minor, I believe with the Prelude for manuals only, with a > very passionate fugue (which also appears in the literature as a violin > work), which is a great piece to learn, and there is a beautiful Prelude and > Fugue in A Major, with opportunities for very beautiful interpretation. > > These two sorely overlooked works, rarely played, are quite special, and for > somebody of your age, would really teach you a great deal about the = brain and > soul of Bach. And they CAN be played on smaller registrations, quite > effectively, as theire compositional origins lie away from the keyboard, and > come from the mind of a string player (Bach was a notable violinist and > violist). Try these out -- if you want, I can look up the BWV numbers = for > you. You'll break new ground, and learn a lot more, by playing these instead > of the standard d minor. > > SMG > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:23:43 EDT   Dear Jackson:   You seem to so much smarter than all the rest of us combined, None of=20 us have worthy opinions or scholarship but YOU! Too bad, I personally won't take the baiting. Yor are the Weakest Link, Good Bye!   Ron Severin   http://www.musicbase.org/E/SEV001.html http://www.churchorgansystems.com.html/products Fax:1-208-439-6781 Church Organ Systems of Orange County J=E4ger und Brommer Orgelbau St. Mary's by the Sea  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:16:38 EDT     --part1_46.16c1c6e8.286b7d06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/27/01 9:45:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, CdyVanpool@aol.com writes:     > (Lord, I hope I'm not the > sacrifice if they are displeased....<G>) >   Just get paid at the rehearsal and cash the check before the wedding... = ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_46.16c1c6e8.286b7d06_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 6/27/01 9:45:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>CdyVanpool@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">(Lord, I hope I'm = not the <BR>sacrifice if they are displeased....&lt;G&gt;) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Just get paid at the rehearsal and cash the check before the = wedding... &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_46.16c1c6e8.286b7d06_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Edition SIMROCK From: <Robert_Lind@cch.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:11:48 -0500   When I think of the publisher Simrock, I think of Brahms. Recently, whi= le in Bloomington, IN, I purchased a Simrock publication--a second-hand copy = of Walter Drwenski's organ Sonata No. 2, copyright 1929. I always like to read th= e publisher's advertisements on their end papers and back covers to see w= hat else they were publishing around the same time of the piece at hand, and in = this case I have to admit that I knew the names of only two out of the seven comp= osers. Most of these musicians are listed in John Henderson's Directory; I sho= uld be interested to know if anyone out there owns any of the following pieces= and, if so, are any of them worth acquiring, learning, and performing.   Hans Gal--Toccata, Op. 29   Karl Hoyer--(1) Sonata in d, Op. 19; (2) Toccata & Fugue, Op. 36   Arno Landmann--(1) Passacaglia in c#, Op. 7; (2) Chorale Fantasies on W= ie schoen, Vom Himmel hoch, and O, du froeliche, Op. 13   Erwin Lendvai--3 Orgelst=FCcke, Op. 4 (Praeludium, Intermezzo, Passacag= lia)   Rudolf Peters--Fantasie-Praeludium, Op. 15   Emil Nikolaus von Reznicek--(1) Praeludium & Fugue in c; (2) Praeludium= & Chromatic Fugue in c#   Michaelangelo Rossi--Toccata in d   Reznicek has to be the same composer who wrote the Donna Diana overture= that was the theme for radio's Sergeant Preston back when I was a kid. That musi= c certainly whipped up some enthusiasm in me and makes me wonder about hi= s organ pieces. Henderson lists Michel Angelo Rossi (c. 1601-1656) who did writ= e toccatas, but I assume the Simrock composer should be someone born in t= he late 19th century.   Many thanks in advance to those who can shed some light on these compos= ers, these specific works, or other organ works that they might have compose= d.   Bob Lind =      
(back) Subject: Re: Strange Preludes... From: "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:32:02 -0400   Mike Swaldo wrote: > > Hi, > > What are some of the strangest things anyone has done for service music? > Yesterday, I played "Old McDonald had a Farm." I played it in a = "churchy," > chorale prelude style. A few people noticed, but most didn't. > > It came about like this: Bible School is this week, and it has a farm > theme. They have been steadily decorating the sancturay with farm = things, > such as straw bales, a cultivator, canned food, and various animals. = For > the last 3 weeks, I have been sharing the organ console with 3 stuffed = hens. > > So, I decided to pick out special music music with a farm theme. Last = week > I did "All creatures of out God and King-" Paul Manz, "Morning-" = William > Stickles (What happens on a farm in the morning? Yes! The rooster = crows), > and an arrangement of the Doxology by David N. Johnson (thinking > specifically of the line "Praise Him all creatures...). > > Yesterday, I played "Jesus Makes my Heart Rejoice-" Johannes Herbst = (this, a > little Moravian hymn that talks about sheep and shepherds), "Old = McDonald," > "As pants the deer-" Nystrom (sp?), and "Now Thank we All our God-" Paul > Manz. > > Best wishes, > Mike > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Hello! What an interesting inquiry! Great topic! I do not have as interesting examples as those already provided, but here's my one example: In our mass, we have a place for the "Sign of Peace", which is....shaking hands with all around you, etc., just prior to communion. During this sharing of greetings, I once played a few measures of the theme from the movie "Schindler's List"...the place in the music, that, to me, is the most memorable and haunting. What I have yet to do, but have thought about doing, is to take the music from the tune "Precedent" from the movie "Philadelphia", and somehow use that....somewhere in the Mass. Both movies, "Schindler's List" and "Philadelphia"........are, to me, movies that very obviously "belong" in the church........in consideration of theme, subject matter, everything. Thanks for sharing this idea of "Strange Preludes".............. -Jane Hanudel  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach T+F in d (SERIOUS)RE to Mandy From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:39:12 EDT   In a message dated 6/27/01 8:26:35 AM Central Daylight Time, jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com writes:   << Where did you get the idea that it is a sin to like them? >>   Other organists I've talked to seem to think of the Trio Sonatas as "training" pieces, or exercises, and don't consider their musicality. Some =   people show incredulity that other organists want to record the Bach = sonatas.   I figure the musicians who can't see Bach's music as "good listening" feel =   that way because they are forced to play it throughout their training. = When I told my teacher I loved Bach he told me (jokingly, of course) that he was going to fail me. He then explained the reaction: every keyboard major = where he went to school had to memorize all of Bach's keyboard compositions and identify scant phrases on tests. They also had to play as much of his = music as they could learn. He said the music wore a leeeeetle thin on him. ;o)   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Looking for........ From: "Bob North" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:31:50 -0700   AT family gatherings years ago, we would stand around the piano and sing the 'old' songs, one of which was "On the Road to Mandalay" . This was written by Rudyard Kipling with music by Oley Speaks. I recently went through some old music I had stored and found just the cover sheet for = that song, all the other sheets have gone missing. Does anyone know where one might find a copy of such an old song? Any help appreciated.............Regards..............Bob    
(back) Subject: Thanks for "Precious Memories"! From: "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:49:32 -0400   Hello, List-- Just to thank very much whoever FAXED me the copy of the hymn, "Precious Memories". Thanks to the efforts of someone out there..............the funeral mass was "complete". I only received that one copy: all the more reason I am very grateful to whoever took the time to send it. -Jane Hanudel  
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:18:35 -0700   Anybody wanna chat? I'm BORED.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Toccata & Fugue in d (SERIOUS) From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:19:44 -0700 (PDT)   To John Q. Public, an entire lengthy fugue played on one registration (which seems to be the prevelant mode of performance these days), is boring.   --- quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > Nope, sorry, Jackson ... Bach fugues are only boring > if the PLAYER is > boring. > > I ended my senior recital with the Toccata AND FUGUE > in F Major, which was > heresy at the time ... NOBODY played that fugue, > seemingly. But I found in > later years I played the fugue FAR more often than > the toccata. > > I usually play "popular" and "accessible" literature > in church; but in > THIS case, if they don't like fugues, let 'em eat > counter-subjects (grin). > > Cheers, > > Bud-By-The-Beach > > "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote: > > > --- TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > > > > Another idea is a concert of "The Great > > > Fugues of Bach," thereby > > > AVOIDING the stigma of that work that continues > to > > > plague us in our quest to > > > be taken seriously. > > > > Whereas I normally agree with Sebastian's highly > > intelligent and informed comments, I think it > would be > > the worst possible idea to play a concert of > fugues. > > Have you ever watched an audience during a > performance > > of a fugue? Massive yawning, attention > wandering--in > > short, it is the musical form, academic in nature, > > that most alienates an audience. > > JW > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: IRC From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:20:40 EDT   Bud -   I would, but the chat function is not very friendly to AOL users...if you have an instant message function available that will interface with AOL a chat could happen.  
(back) Subject: Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph) From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:22:48 -0700 (PDT)   Ron, I don't think I'm smarter than anybody. If I express a viewpoint on this list that is inaccurate or could be better informed, I know that people who might know better would kindly and gently correct me. I would be open to that and welcome it. I always want to learn new things. Nothing was meant personally, Ron. Chill out! JW   --- RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > Dear Jackson: > > You seem to so much smarter than all the rest of us > combined, None of > us have worthy opinions or scholarship but YOU! Too > bad, I personally > won't take the baiting. Yor are the Weakest Link, > Good Bye! > > Ron Severin > > http://www.musicbase.org/E/SEV001.html > http://www.churchorgansystems.com.html/products > Fax:1-208-439-6781 > Church Organ Systems of Orange County > J=E4ger und Brommer Orgelbau > St. Mary's by the Sea > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:44:13 -0700   I would, if I could find Instant Messenger (grin) ... Burgie's up north = ... he's the one who does all the 'puter stuff for me.   Cheers,   Bud   RMaryman@aol.com wrote:   > Bud - > > I would, but the chat function is not very friendly to AOL users...if = you > have an instant message function available that will interface with AOL = a > chat could happen. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org