PipeChat Digest #2182 - Friday, June 29, 2001
 
Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph)
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Looking for........
  by "Ron & Mandy" <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au>
Re: AOL Gremlins Strike Again
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Fw: Strange Preludes...
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: IRC
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
RE: Looking for......../ Here it is
  by "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com>
Fugue a la gigue
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Fugue a la gigue
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Fugue a la gigue
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Fw: Strange Preludes...
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Baltimore Question (xpost)
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Having just completed reading "Virgil Fox:The Dish..."
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Allen Protoge'
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: Allen Protoge'
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Toccata and Fugue in D minor(And Bruce Prince Joseph) From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 02:29:13 -0700 (PDT)   David, thanks for the correction. The tempo in the score is quarter=3D118. I thought the recording was a bit slower. It's been a years since I heard Widor's recording.. Personally-and this is just my own personal taste, mind you-I like a bit faster.   --- David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> wrote: > At 6:41 AM -0700 6/27/01, Jackson R. Williams II > wrote: > >Thirdly, Widor was in fact in his 80's when he made > >that recording and it was difficult for him to play > >that work up to speed with the manuals coupled at > >Saint Sulpice. Also, he took into account the > almost > >10 second reverberation. The Toccata is highly > >effective and exciting at a quicker tempo. You > might > >want to read the two recent biographies of Widor > that > >have come out in the past 7 years. > > I'm sorry Jackson but check the tempo of that > recording against the > MM markings in the score - he is playing it at > exactly the speed > which it is marked to be played. I studied that > Symphonie with my > teacher who was a student of Widor's. And I was > taught to play it > much slower than most people play it. It turns into > a very stately > piece at the CORRECT tempo. > > Since I am at the OHS Convention i don't have access > to my various > copies of the 5th Symphonie but will be more than > willing to check > the tempo markings again when i get home. And more > importantly than > the biographies of Widor there is available a > critical edition of the > Symphonies which shows the CORRECT tempo to be > exactly what i have in > the score my teacher used when he studied with Widor > and also is the > tempo on the recording. > > David > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Looking for........ From: "Ron & Mandy" <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:07:44 +1000     Hi Bob, I'm sure I have a copy. It will take me a couple of days to find it but = can either scan it and send it to you or photocopy it and send it by snail mail.which would you prefer? Regards, Ron West ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob North <bnorth@intergate.ca> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: Looking for........     > > AT family gatherings years ago, we would stand around the piano and sing > the 'old' songs, one of which was "On the Road to Mandalay" . This was > written by Rudyard Kipling with music by Oley Speaks. I recently went > through some old music I had stored and found just the cover sheet for that > song, all the other sheets have gone missing. Does anyone know where = one > might find a copy of such an old song? Any help > appreciated.............Regards..............Bob > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: AOL Gremlins Strike Again From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:16:58 -0400     --------------87C47B6D57ED1EF5BB107813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Malcolm, If anyone were to fill my inbox with multiple copies, or =3D20s, or any other gremlins AOL has to offer, I could never be even remotely irritated if it was you. Your reports and stories assume a place of honor in my archives, having your own folder into which I place them all. I value your posts more than the latest Grisham novel. Thank you for all your hard work to create these wonderful narratives. I only wish more list members would take the time to write about their organic experiences and share them like you do. So never mind the warts, the gremlins, or any other extraneous distractions. They all are so very minor in the shadow of your magnificent proffering. Gratefully, Mike Gettelman   ManderUSA@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Friends, > > I am not sure what versions you received of my attempt at posting an > OHS > report. I received six copies, some with corrupted text, some with all > the > blind copy addresses of an additional mailing list showing. There may > have > been one perfect one amongst all those - I am not quite sure. Sorry > for the > confusion. I will refrain from posting again until I get home this > weekend, > and will shortly set up the Earthlink account my cable modem allows > me, and > once that is registered on PipOrg-L and Pipechat, will continue the > OHS > reports to the bitter end. > > Cheers, > > Malcolm   --------------87C47B6D57ED1EF5BB107813 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Dear Malcolm, <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If anyone were to fill my inbox with multiple = copies, or =3D20s, or any other gremlins AOL has to offer, I could never be even remotely irritated if it was you. Your reports and stories assume a place of honor in my archives, having your own folder into which I place them all. I value your posts more than the latest Grisham novel. Thank you for all your hard work to create these wonderful narratives. I only wish more list members would take the time to write about their organic experiences and share them like you do. So never mind the warts, the gremlins, or any other extraneous distractions. They all are so very minor in the shadow of your magnificent proffering. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gratefully, <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike Gettelman <p>ManderUSA@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Dear Friends,</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>I am not sure what = versions you received of my attempt at posting an OHS</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>report. I received six = copies, some with corrupted text, some with all the</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>blind copy addresses of an additional mailing list showing. There may have</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>been one perfect one = amongst all those - I am not quite sure. Sorry for the</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>confusion. I will = refrain from posting again until I get home this weekend,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>and will shortly set up the Earthlink account my cable modem allows me, and</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>once that is registered on PipOrg-L and Pipechat, will continue the OHS</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>reports to the bitter = end.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Cheers,</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Malcolm</font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------87C47B6D57ED1EF5BB107813--    
(back) Subject: Fw: Strange Preludes... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:25:07 -0500   > For the last 3 weeks, I have been sharing the organ console with 3 stuffed hens. <snip>       Ok......... but, were they French?   Rick          
(back) Subject: Re: IRC From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:54:04 +0200   At 09:20 PM 27/06/2001 -0400, RMaryman@aol.com wrote: >I would, but the chat function is not very friendly to AOL users...   The java interface David provides through the pipechat.org web server is indeed unfriendly, but that's ok. Java interfaces are always a last resort emergency thing. Useful if you're helping someone set up a decent program, or if you're away from home and can't install an IRC program on the computer you have access to. http://irc.pipechat.org:8080/Themes/Default/help.htm has info that = may make using the java interface slightly less painful if you really must use = it.   Windows 3.1 through 2000 users (with or without AOL) can use the relatively painless guide at http://www.pipechat.org/mirc.html to install mIRC and connect to the list's chat channel. Screen shots of each step = are included, and show any text that needs to be entered. You shouldn't have any problems if you follow the directions as I put them in the guide, as others have followed them successfully. On the off chance that you do = have a whoopsie, let me know. I'll be happy to help solve installation/setup problems via email, ICQ, Instant Messenger, or the dreaded java IRC = interface.   Mac users...I can't help you. David is the main Mac driver, and I'm sure he'll rescue you if you ask him. All I know is that the standard =   Mac IRC program is called Ircle, and is available at www.ircle.com . The PipeChat Ircle page is at http://www.pipechat.org/ircmac.html   Have fun! Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: RE: Looking for......../ Here it is From: "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 05:55:13 -0700   Bob   Try the Historic American Music database   http://odyssey.lib.duke.edu/sheetmusic/   This is a tremendous resource of American sheet music through 1920. The music is all scans of the original sheet music and the quality varies. The song you requested is at   http://odyssey.lib.duke.edu/sheetmusic/n/n11/n1184/n1184-1-72dpi.html   I would suggest saving the images to disk and using a graphics program to = do the prints.   Hope this helps Jon -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Ron & Mandy Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:08 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Looking for........       Hi Bob, I'm sure I have a copy. It will take me a couple of days to find it but = can either scan it and send it to you or photocopy it and send it by snail mail.which would you prefer? Regards, Ron West ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob North <bnorth@intergate.ca> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: Looking for........     > > AT family gatherings years ago, we would stand around the piano and sing > the 'old' songs, one of which was "On the Road to Mandalay" . This was > written by Rudyard Kipling with music by Oley Speaks. I recently went > through some old music I had stored and found just the cover sheet for that > song, all the other sheets have gone missing. Does anyone know where = one > might find a copy of such an old song? Any help > appreciated.............Regards..............Bob > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Fugue a la gigue From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT)   All this talk about the T & F got me remembering that I have played the = gig fugue on 4' flutes with 8' Principal in the pedal. I can't see doing the Toccata in d softly, = but starting the fugue with a gapped or odd registration and building up could work.   I've also heard the gig fugue played on a fat old German reed.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Fugue a la gigue From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:37:52 -0400   when I play it, I use principals 842 on the great, and flutes 842 on the choir, and a horizontal reed in the pedal.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Fugue a la gigue From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:17:22 -0700 (PDT)   Isn't that the great thing about music, how people see and perform a piece so differently from others? If we all played the same, it would be boring.   --- Randy Terry <randyterryus@yahoo.com> wrote: > All this talk about the T & F got me remembering > that I have played the gig fugue on 4' flutes > with 8' Principal in the pedal. I can't see doing > the Toccata in d softly, but starting the fugue > with a gapped or odd registration and building up > could work. > > I've also heard the gig fugue played on a fat old > German reed. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Randy Terry > Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster > The Episcopal Church of St. Peter > Redwood City, California > www.stpetersrwc.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Strange Preludes... From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:55:01 -0400   Now if you all start talking about turtle doves and partridges, be sure to have them perching on a organ music rack or something to stay on topic. :-)   VEAGUE wrote:   > > For > the last 3 weeks, I have been sharing the organ console with 3 stuffed > hens. <snip> > > Ok......... but, were they French? > > Rick > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Baltimore Question (xpost) From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:27:04 EDT     --part1_20.1887cd77.286d4178_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   My family and I will be attending a family gathering in the Baltimore = burbs on Saturday nite (30th). We plan to stay over and attend church Sunday, = then visit the harbor and hopefully Fort McHenry.   Do any of you have suggestions on a possible church to attend in the = harbor area or the northeastern burbs? Someplace with good music, but where they =   won't frown on us being in casual clothes?   Thanks for your help in advance.   Neil Brown First UMC, Toms River NJ USA   --part1_20.1887cd77.286d4178_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>My family and I will be attending a family gathering in the = Baltimore burbs <BR>on Saturday nite (30th). &nbsp;We plan to stay over and attend church = Sunday, then <BR>visit the harbor and hopefully Fort McHenry. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Do any of you have suggestions on a possible church to attend in the = harbor <BR>area or the northeastern burbs? &nbsp;Someplace with good music, but = where they <BR>won't frown on us being in casual clothes? <BR> <BR>Thanks for your help in advance. <BR> <BR>Neil Brown <BR>First UMC, Toms River NJ USA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_20.1887cd77.286d4178_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Having just completed reading "Virgil Fox:The Dish..." From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:18:40 EDT     --part1_77.16d14116.286d4d90_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   All I can say is: "Bravo dear Virgil- have a good trip!"   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D     --part1_77.16d14116.286d4d90_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D3D"0">All I can say is: = &nbsp;"Bravo=3D dear Virgil- have a good trip!" <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and = L=3D iturgy <BR>THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR><I>=3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat = dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D</I> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_77.16d14116.286d4d90_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Allen Protoge' From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:36:06 EDT   Hi to everyone.   Today I played a funeral service at a local chapel. The organ is a new = Allen Protoge'. Surely this is the economy model for Allen, right? Now I am = not bashing Allen's as I have played many of them over the years and consider them to be excellent pipeless organs. But today I was, shall we say, underwhelmed with the Protoge'.   Can someone who is knowlegable about new Allen's provide some info on this =   model? I found nothing impressive about the Protoge'.   Jim Pitts  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Protoge' From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:21:42 -0700   That IS their bottom-of-the-line, so to speak. If it's the littlest self-contained one, it ain't much (grin). The bigger ones are better.   Cheers,   Bud   Wurlibird1@aol.com wrote:   > Hi to everyone. > > Today I played a funeral service at a local chapel. The organ is a new = Allen > Protoge'. Surely this is the economy model for Allen, right? Now I am = not > bashing Allen's as I have played many of them over the years and = consider > them to be excellent pipeless organs. But today I was, shall we say, > underwhelmed with the Protoge'. > > Can someone who is knowlegable about new Allen's provide some info on = this > model? I found nothing impressive about the Protoge'. > > Jim Pitts > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org