PipeChat Digest #1851 - Saturday, March 3, 2001
 
Organs in movies/TV
  by "paul99" <paul99@ptdprolog.net>
Organ builder's web site...
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
Re: Organ builder's web site...
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Severance Tickets
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Trem
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: Trem
  by "Bob conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Trem
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
en chamade Pronunciation (X-Post)
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
RE: Organ builder's web site...
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
Re: en chamade Pronunciation (X-Post)
  by "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net>
Re: en chamade Pronunciation (X-Post)
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: Organs in movies/TV
  by "Arthur Aldrich" <artie00000@home.com>
Re: Organs in movies/TV
  by "Arthur Aldrich" <artie00000@home.com>
Pedaling and Other things
  by "Matt Steinkraus" <hat77@operamail.com>
Fw: Pedaling and Other things
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: OHS Convention in North Carolina
  by "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net>
Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Fw: Pedaling and Other things
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Meistersinger
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Meistersinger
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com>
 

(back) Subject: Organs in movies/TV From: "paul99" <paul99@ptdprolog.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:35:21 -0500 (EST)   I've been collecting appearances of pipe organs in movies and TV series. I've just moved and updated the meager little site, so please take a look and add your contributions, corrections and comments.   http://angelfire.lycos.com/movies/lists   --Paul    
(back) Subject: Organ builder's web site... From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:07:16 -0500     Hi,   Here's a little rural pipe organ company close to me. Check it out. If = you click on "Photos," there's a picture of E. M. Skinner, and some of his employees.   Best wishes, Mike    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ builder's web site... From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:34:31 -0600   Mike Swaldo wrote: > > Hi, > > Here's a little rural pipe organ company close to me. Check it out. If = you > click on "Photos," there's a picture of E. M. Skinner, and some of his > employees. > > Best wishes, > Mike   What's the address? :-)   Paul  
(back) Subject: Severance Tickets From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:48:56 -0500   Mike Gettelman wrote:   Hello all PChaters,   2 Friends of mine will not be able to use their tickets for the March 11th Severance Hall concert. Should anybody wish to have these tickets, please contact me privately. The Restored Skinner is just wonderful and deserves to be heard.   I will post again when they are gone. First email will get them.   Have Fun   Mike Gettelman    
(back) Subject: Trem From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:42:08 -0600   Hi, I have a question, The tremolo units that I have, have a 3 inch pipe to them. What would the effect on the operation of the trem be with a 2 inch pipe? Would the trem be a little milder? Would it make any difference at all?   Some one must have tried this and knows the answer. I am considering the smaller pipe in the Moller unless I'm talked out of it.   Thanks in advance Luther    
(back) Subject: Re: Trem From: "Bob conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:18:58 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: Luther Melby <lmelby@prtel.com> To: Pipe Chat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 7:42 PM Subject: Trem     > Hi, > I have a question, > The tremolo units that I have, have a 3 inch pipe to them. > What would the effect on the operation of the trem be with > a 2 inch pipe? Would the trem be a little milder? > Would it make any difference at all? > > Some one must have tried this and knows the answer. > I am considering the smaller pipe in the Moller > unless I'm talked out of it. > > Thanks in advance > Luther > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Trem From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:30:52 EST   In a message dated 3/2/01 7:49:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, = lmelby@prtel.com writes:   << I have a question, The tremolo units that I have, have a 3 inch pipe to them. What would the effect on the operation of the trem be with a 2 inch pipe? Would the trem be a little milder? Would it make any difference at all? >>   If this is the trem that I think it is, if you change to a smaller tube it =   wont work at all. That tube acts like a resonator. If you change it do so = in very small increments. The only changes you are likely to see are to the speed.   Good luck:   Alan B  
(back) Subject: en chamade Pronunciation (X-Post) From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:14:50 -0600   I was wondering if anyone could assist me in pronouncing "en chamade" for my high school speech meet tomorrow. I'm doing my informative speech on "The King Of Instruments". Thank you!!!   Paul  
(back) Subject: RE: Organ builder's web site... From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:16:52 -0500     > What's the address? :-)   Sorry! Would you believe this is the *first* time i ever made a mistake? ;-)   http://www.jwmullerorgans.com/index.html   Best wishes, Mike    
(back) Subject: Re: en chamade Pronunciation (X-Post) From: "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:18:08 -0500   At 09:14 PM 03/02/2001, you wrote: >I was wondering if anyone could assist me in pronouncing "en chamade" >for my high school speech meet tomorrow. I'm doing my informative speech >on "The King Of Instruments". Thank you!!! > >Paul     Ahn shah-MAHD.    
(back) Subject: Re: en chamade Pronunciation (X-Post) From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:39:23 -0600   My question has been answered (and very quickly I might add)   Thank you everyone! Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs in movies/TV From: "Arthur Aldrich" <artie00000@home.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:41:06 -0500   Paul, You can add the 1973 United Artists spy thriller starring Burt Lancaster. There is a brief view of the pipework and organist/owner Jimmy Boyce at the console of the magnificent former Rockefeller Center Theatre Wurlitzer, Opus 2178, 4/34, during it's stint at the Alexandria Arena roller skating rink in Alexandria Virginia. With music. A totally unenclosed installation in a very large building. Impressive!   Arthur   paul99 wrote: > > I've been collecting appearances of pipe organs in movies and TV series. > I've just moved and updated the meager little site, so please take a = look > and add your contributions, corrections and comments. > > http://angelfire.lycos.com/movies/lists > > --Paul > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs in movies/TV From: "Arthur Aldrich" <artie00000@home.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:53:02 -0500     The 1973 spythriller I referred to in my previous post was titled "Scorpio". Sorry for the Omission. Arthur   paul99 wrote: > > I've been collecting appearances of pipe organs in movies and TV series. > I've just moved and updated the meager little site, so please take a = look > and add your contributions, corrections and comments. > > http://angelfire.lycos.com/movies/lists > > --Paul > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Pedaling and Other things From: "Matt Steinkraus" <hat77@operamail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:28:47 -0500   Hello,   I've been a long time appreciator of organ music and general, and three = months ago I decided to take the plunge and start playing. I got an old Conn Console = for free from a guy in Lake Tahoe that I fixed up that is currently occupying a corner in = my living room. I've been seriously practicing for about three months, and am finally = really getting a feel for things with the help of a teacher I found in the Sacramento area. I do =   have some questions regarding what kind technique I should be learning in order to = play classical music in the future. My teacher insists that I follow his example of = using my heels for the naturals and my toes for the sharps and flats. However, I recently = bought a classical organ manual off of ebay which contains pedal exercises using techniques contrary to what I am being taught. Could anyone please enlighten me to what the "correct" = way is? I don't want to run into any roadblocks in the future. Also, there is the = question of heigth. I'm 6'2" tall, so getting comfortably seated at the console is a challenge. I =   find my pedaling is not what it should be because I am always on top of the pedals and not swinging my legs and gliding like I should be. If I put the bench up higher, my legs bump = up underneath the bottom manual. If anyone else is as tall as I am I'd be interested in = knowing how you deal with is, as the 2 manual Allen I play around with at church is even more difficult to be comfortable at.   Thanks, Matt Sacramento California   P.S. I thoroughly enjoy the Praze Band/CCM bashing that goes on around = here. I play bass with the "Cool Doodz" in the praise band at the Lutheran church which I've =   been attending for about a decade. Even though at 20 years of age I'm supposed to be the =   "target audience" of the music I play, I find it as stale and lifeless as a 10 = year old twinkie, and seriously dread the times I have to get up on stage. Just thought you =   might want to know about the dissent at the front lines ;).   ------------------------------------------- The Fastest Browser on Earth now for FREE!! Download Opera 5 for Windows now! Get it at http://www.opera.com/download/ -------------------------------------------    
(back) Subject: Fw: Pedaling and Other things From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:43:20 -0500   Johnny Seng -being over six-feet- often had to cross his legs under the keydesk to play pedals. Using heel-toe-heel-toe for sharps and whites is ok, but what about = between B-C and E-F? You might have to slide your toes over on those pedals. Not being a classical organist, I would imagine pedaling depends on what the music says.   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Steinkraus <hat77@operamail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: Pedaling and Other things     > Hello, > > I've been a long time appreciator of organ music and general, and three months > ago I > decided to take the plunge and start playing. I got an old Conn Console for > free from a > guy in Lake Tahoe that I fixed up that is currently occupying a corner = in my > living room. > I've been seriously practicing for about three months, and am finally really > getting a feel > for things with the help of a teacher I found in the Sacramento area. I = do > have some > questions regarding what kind technique I should be learning in order to play > classical > music in the future. My teacher insists that I follow his example of using my > heels for > the naturals and my toes for the sharps and flats. However, I recently bought > a classical > organ manual off of ebay which contains pedal exercises using techniques > contrary to what I > am being taught. Could anyone please enlighten me to what the "correct" way > is? I don't > want to run into any roadblocks in the future. Also, there is the question of > heigth. I'm > 6'2" tall, so getting comfortably seated at the console is a challenge. = I > find my pedaling > is not what it should be because I am always on top of the pedals and = not > swinging my legs > and gliding like I should be. If I put the bench up higher, my legs = bump up > underneath the > bottom manual. If anyone else is as tall as I am I'd be interested in knowing > how you deal > with is, as the 2 manual Allen I play around with at church is even more > difficult to be > comfortable at. > > Thanks, > Matt > Sacramento California > > P.S. I thoroughly enjoy the Praze Band/CCM bashing that goes on around here. > I play bass > with the "Cool Doodz" in the praise band at the Lutheran church which = I've > been attending > for about a decade. Even though at 20 years of age I'm supposed to be = the > "target > audience" of the music I play, I find it as stale and lifeless as a 10 year > old twinkie, > and seriously dread the times I have to get up on stage. Just thought = you > might want to > know about the dissent at the front lines ;). > > ------------------------------------------- > The Fastest Browser on Earth now for FREE!! > Download Opera 5 for Windows now! Get it at > http://www.opera.com/download/ > ------------------------------------------- > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: OHS Convention in North Carolina From: "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:57:59 -0500     Are any of the concerts open to the public? Am particularly interested in =   First Pres. and the Methodist churches in Greensboro.   Thanks.   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:10:09 EST   In a message dated 3/2/01 9:40:16 PM Central Standard Time, hat77@operamail.com writes:   << My teacher insists that I follow his example of using my heels for the naturals and my toes for the sharps and flats. >>   Well, that's a load of crap..... toes on the flats YES.... but you have to =   use TOES and heels on naturals also... Get the "Method of Organ Playing" = by Harold Gleason. The exercises will drive you nuts, but it will definitely =   improve your pedal technique and manual dexterity as well!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:20:33 EST   Oh, BTW, the heel/toe business has a lot to do with which key you are = playing in. In any case shell out the bucks and get the Gleason book! I'm = guessing you misunderstood your instructor, if not... then I suggest you find = another organ teacher.   John (who is NOT a one legged Matilda)  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Pedaling and Other things From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:44:33 -0800   At 10:43 PM 3/2/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Using heel-toe-heel-toe for sharps and whites is ok, but what about = between >B-C and E-F? You might have to slide your toes over on those pedals. Not >being a classical organist, I would imagine pedaling depends on what the >music says.<snip>   Bite the bullet and buy a copy of Harold Gleason's "Method of Organ Playing". It's available through J.W. Pepper, Sheetmusic.com, and other vendors. It's an excellent method and will provide you with good = reference for years to come.   "Toes on accidentals, heels on natural" is oversimplifying things. Both heel and toe of both feet are used on naturals, foot subsitutions are made =   on held notes, all sorts of fun. It's all covered in Gleason's book.   While I"m here, I should get this rant off my chest. People on this list seem to be quite sloppy about trimming quoted text off their responses, thus making reply posts inordinately long. Please do a little snipping here and there.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:47:20 EST     --part1_18.98fb6f0.27d1d158_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/3/01 3:39:33 AM !!!First Boot!!!, hat77@operamail.com =   writes:     > . Could anyone please enlighten me to what the "correct" way > is?   I think the correct way is what works best for you and allows you to play cleanly. My preference for learning pedaling is the Gleason method. I especially find his pedal scales extremely useful. I have also enjoyed = the baroque practice of using primarily toes. It add great stability in some =   instance, the one which comes immediately to mind is the opening D-major pedal scale in the Prelude and Fugue in D-major (Bach).   I' have been having difficulty with back and leg pain recently, and have discovered it is a result of having the bench too low. Most comfortable = for me is so that my feet just touch the pedals, so that when I'm relaxed my = feet don't push pedals. The pain was the result of having to "hold" my feel up =   over the pedals. Unfortunately, I don't have a height problem (sigh).   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_18.98fb6f0.27d1d158_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/3/01 3:39:33 AM !!!First Boot!!!, hat77@operamail.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. Could anyone = please enlighten me to what the "correct" way <BR>is?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I think the correct way is what works best for you and allows you to = play <BR>cleanly. &nbsp;&nbsp;My preference for learning pedaling is the = Gleason method. &nbsp;&nbsp;I <BR>especially find his pedal scales extremely useful. &nbsp;&nbsp;I have = also enjoyed the <BR>baroque practice of using primarily toes. &nbsp;&nbsp;It add great = stability in some <BR>instance, the one which comes immediately to mind is the opening = D-major <BR>pedal scale in the Prelude and Fugue in D-major (Bach). <BR> <BR>I' have been having difficulty with back and leg pain recently, and = have <BR>discovered it is a result of having the bench too low. &nbsp;Most = comfortable for <BR>me is so that my feet just touch the pedals, so that when I'm relaxed = my feet <BR>don't push pedals. &nbsp;The pain was the result of having to "hold" = my feel up <BR>over the pedals. &nbsp;&nbsp;Unfortunately, I don't have a height = problem (sigh). <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_18.98fb6f0.27d1d158_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Meistersinger From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:19:57 EST   Is the Prelude to Act I of Meistersinger transcribed for organ? I heard = it today on radio and thought, once again, how wonderful it would be on our instrument.   Also, can someone remind me of Brenda Durden's webpage?   Thanks, Neil Brown  
(back) Subject: Re: Meistersinger From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:10:50 EST   Yes, I believe there are two versions. I THINK the true and accurate one = is by Lemare, and I don't know the publisher. It was recorded at Saint John = the Divine, years ago, by Anthony Newman, Randall Atcheson, Gary Schulz, and a =   host of others. I heard John Scott play it in concert, pretty thrilling.   There is another version out there, a really terrible one. I heard it performed on the organ at Westminster Choir College chapel, and it bore absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the orchestral prelude by Wagner, except for the occasional recognizable motif. The entire audience was disappointed, as it was loud, disjointed, and completely unfamiliar to = those who knew the real work.   If you find out where this is available, let the list know!!! Seb  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:57:00 -0800   * Cremona502@cs.com (Cremona502@cs.com) wrote: > I' have been having difficulty with back and leg pain recently, and have =   > discovered it is a result of having the bench too low. Most comfortable = for > me is so that my feet just touch the pedals, so that when I'm relaxed my = feet > don't push pedals.   I'm a fairly new organist, and I've been wrestling with bench height as well. I do most of my practicing on a Fritts tracker, and the bench height is adjustable only by putting blocks under it. Right now I'm on the lowest setting, which doesn't make sense to me (I'm a good 5'10" or so).   I tried to set it one higher, and it definitely felt better for playing notes in the middle, but I found it almost impossible to play accurately at either extreme; since the pedalboard is flat, my feet could hardly reach! What are other peoples' experiences with flat pedalboards and bench height?   Oh, by the way, my name is Joshua Haberman, I've been lurking around these parts for a few weeks now, and I even hit #pipechat (the IRC channel) one night. I just started playing the organ last semester, but I've been around organs my whole life, since my dad is an organist (he's also very involved in the Pacific Northwest chapter of AGO, and acted as convention chair for the Tacoma convention a few years ago). If anyone is interested in hearing a relative novice play some Bach and some Boelmann on a nice 40-rank Fritts tracker, there's an mp3 of a scholarship audition I gave a week ago at my web page -- www.reverberate.org.   Joshua   -- Joshua Haberman <joshua@haberman.com>, University of Puget Sound "Delaying decisions" is too often a euphemism for "avoiding thinking." -Bjarne Stroustrup