PipeChat Digest #1856 - Sunday, March 4, 2001
 
Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Blue Man Commercials
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: Blue Man Commercials
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Pedaling, hygiene et.al.
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More about Estey
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Re: Pedaling and Other things
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Re: Pedaling, hygiene et.al.
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(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:05:54 EST   In a message dated 3/4/01 2:39:55 AM Central Standard Time, = Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << Think how much time organists could save by not having to learn DIFFERENT things. Then we wouldn't have to worry about deciding whether to go to an organ recital or not because THEY WOULD ALL SOUND THE SAME!!!! >>   Gee Bruce,   That's the most intelligent thing I've heard you say! LOL   John (roflmao) It's off to church now and I've got to compose myself!  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:17:55 EST     --part1_5d.802250d.27d3b6a3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/4/01 3:03:03 PM !!!First Boot!!!, DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:     > Perhaps, but it was still almost impossible to reach, with much = accuracy, > the > pedals on the far right side (say c25 or above). I think the panic = kicked > in > when I was missing the notes and thought "Good God! They're gonna think =   > American organists are crap". > >   No biggy, just slide forward on the bench, and work your bottom toward = that end of the bench. It's fun.   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_5d.802250d.27d3b6a3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/4/01 3:03:03 PM !!!First Boot!!!, DRAWKNOB@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Perhaps, but it = was still almost impossible to reach, with much accuracy, <BR>the <BR>pedals on the far right side (say c25 or above). &nbsp;I think the = panic kicked <BR>in <BR>when I was missing the notes and thought "Good God! &nbsp;They're = gonna think <BR>American organists are crap". <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>No biggy, just slide forward on the bench, and work your bottom toward = that <BR>end of the bench. &nbsp;&nbsp;It's fun. <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5d.802250d.27d3b6a3_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:18:07 EST   In a message dated 3/4/01 5:20:31 AM Central Standard Time, = Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << Almost every student recital I've been to in the past three or four = years has begun with ten-minutes of piston-setting, bench adjusting and console screwing-with. And then they didn't play that well! Sorry. Console woes are far over-rated. >>   OK, I'm glad I read a few more messages before heading off to the Great McManis.... Bruce, Perhaps those students couldn't play well because the consoles, = pedal boards, and benches were user unfriendly? Not ergonomic... Which, I = found to be the case in England... I love the English organ sound, BUT to borrow =   from a Scottish phrase "If it's not AGO it's CRAP". Enough said... I'm = off to play "O Wench Be Mine" - JSB, "the OK Chorale" and the "Dragnet = Toccata" by Boellman this morning.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:22:00 EST     --part1_aa.11e664d9.27d3b798_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/4/01 3:19:26 PM !!!First Boot!!!, DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:     > Bruce, Perhaps those students couldn't play well because the consoles, = pedal > boards, and benches were user unfriendly?   Noooooooooop! It just happens that this particular organ has a ten-year old, Moller console with solid-state combinations and infinitely = adjustable bench..... all of which are adjusted throughout recitals... INFINTELY!!!   It's a thoroughly untra-modern organ! (icch!)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_aa.11e664d9.27d3b798_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/4/01 3:19:26 PM !!!First Boot!!!, DRAWKNOB@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bruce, Perhaps = those students couldn't play well because the consoles, pedal <BR>boards, and benches were user unfriendly? &nbsp;</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Noooooooooop! &nbsp;&nbsp;It just happens that this particular organ = has a ten-year <BR>old, Moller console with solid-state combinations and infinitely = adjustable <BR>bench..... &nbsp;all of which are adjusted throughout recitals... = INFINTELY!!! <BR> <BR>It's a thoroughly untra-modern organ! &nbsp;(icch!) <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_aa.11e664d9.27d3b798_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Blue Man Commercials From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:29:41 -0500   "Mike Gettelman" wrote:   Intel has a new commercial format featuring mimes with Blue painted faces doing gyrations with what looks to be 8 or 10 inch PVC pipe that eventually evolves into the number "4" (in advertisement of the Pentium 4 processor). What is interesting (and therefore somewhat on topic) is, one of the guys is beating on the pipe with drumsticks, while another is sliding a tuning collar up and down on top of the pipe changing the effective speaking length and pitch. I realize this is all just "TV", but the effect is most interesting, and the flue pipe physics lesson is there for all to see and hear.   Cheers Mike    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:44:34 -0500     --------------C4676551C138837B9CEE2F74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 3/4/01 3:03:03 PM !!!First Boot!!!, > DRAWKNOB@aol.com > writes: > > > >> Perhaps, but it was still almost impossible to reach, with much >> accuracy, >> the >> pedals on the far right side (say c25 or above). I think the panic >> kicked >> in >> when I was missing the notes and thought "Good God! They're gonna >> think >> American organists are crap". >> > > No biggy, just slide forward on the bench, and work your bottom toward > that > end of the bench. It's fun. > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   > "Mike Gettelman" wrote:   I have always been amazed at how you organists use so many parts of your anatomy to play the pipe organ-----not too much furniture polish on the bench please or you might end up in the choir's lap. What's next?----pushing pistons with your nose on the fly----pushing toe studs with----well let's not go there. <G>   Cheers Mike   --------------C4676551C138837B9CEE2F74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> &nbsp; <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 3/4/01 3:03:03 PM !!!First Boot!!!, DRAWKNOB@aol.com</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Perhaps, but it was still almost impossible to reach, with much = accuracy,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>the</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>pedals on the far right side (say c25 or above).&nbsp; I think the panic kicked</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>in</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>when I was missing the = notes and thought "Good God!&nbsp; They're gonna think</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>American organists are = crap".</font></font> <br>&nbsp;</blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>No biggy, = just slide forward on the bench, and work your bottom toward = that</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>end of = the bench.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's fun.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>Bruce&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Visit = Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font></blockquote> > "Mike Gettelman" wrote: <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have always been amazed at how you organists use so many parts of your anatomy to play the pipe organ-----not too much furniture polish on the bench please or you might end up in the choir's lap. What's next?----pushing pistons with your nose on the fly----pushing toe studs with----well let's not go there. &lt;G> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike</html>   --------------C4676551C138837B9CEE2F74--    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:17:45 -0600   At 07:09 AM 3/4/01 -0600, John Speller wrote:   >When one starts getting really picky, one discoveres that many builders >produced >pedal boards that differ very slightly in their dimensions from the AGO >standard. I believe this was true both of Moller and Aeolian-Skinner.   Good morning, everyone --   Add to your list of non-standard consoles certain (usually 2m) consoles built by several supply-houses through the mid-20th century. Reisner and Durst (maybe Klann?) come to mind as examples I've seen -- I own one of = the Durst examples. These can be found on instruments of all makes and models -- some original to the installation, some as replacements for a long-gone original.   The thing that seems to be common to them was an attempt to conserve = "floor space". Thus, the pedal clavier is front-to-back "shorter" than a AGO standard 'board. The spacing of each pedal at the *front* is the same -- but each pedal would get closer to its neighbors a little sooner as you travel towards the rear. Of course, this doesn't matter much (as few organists I know do their pedaling under the bench...<g>)   Cheers!   Tim Bovard Little Rock AR (who doesn't play often enough to feel compelled to fuss about minor differences between individual pedalboards)      
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:52:14 -0800 (PST)   There was that organ where the pedalboard was actuall where the swell shoes usually are. It was built into that board on the organ so that the organist actually had to stretch his legs a little bit horizontally, though not much because the pedal board was closer (not so far underneath). The idea here was that it was more of a natural position. Another pedal board consisted primarily of round circular tabs rather then long pedal keys. The idea behind this was that the organist's feet would stay on the same horizontal plane and could actually play faster because of the tabs (where a normal pedal board would be. All toes technique would be used most of the time. The tabs were close together and actually played with the front part of the foot--like a tap dance. --- Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> wrote: > At 07:09 AM 3/4/01 -0600, John Speller wrote: > > >When one starts getting really picky, one > discoveres that many builders > >produced > >pedal boards that differ very slightly in their > dimensions from the AGO > >standard. I believe this was true both of Moller > and Aeolian-Skinner. > > Good morning, everyone -- > > Add to your list of non-standard consoles certain > (usually 2m) consoles > built by several supply-houses through the mid-20th > century. Reisner and > Durst (maybe Klann?) come to mind as examples I've > seen -- I own one of the > Durst examples. These can be found on instruments > of all makes and models > -- some original to the installation, some as > replacements for a long-gone > original. > > The thing that seems to be common to them was an > attempt to conserve "floor > space". Thus, the pedal clavier is front-to-back > "shorter" than a AGO > standard 'board. The spacing of each pedal at the > *front* is the same -- > but each pedal would get closer to its neighbors a > little sooner as you > travel towards the rear. Of course, this doesn't > matter much (as few > organists I know do their pedaling under the > bench...<g>) > > Cheers! > > Tim Bovard > Little Rock AR > (who doesn't play often enough to feel compelled to > fuss about minor > differences between individual pedalboards) > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:50:40 -0600   Amazing how much interest in pedaling...especially when so many so called organists don't even use them   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: Blue Man Commercials From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:55:16 -0600   Blue Man Group is a performance group which features music played on PVC and drum heads with water on them to give interesting effects with their lighting.....Very unusual group. No surprised that Intel decided to = feature them in a commercial....if you thought that was intriguing you should see their entire performance   jch   At 10:29 AM 3/4/01 -0500, you wrote: >"Mike Gettelman" wrote: > > Intel has a new commercial format featuring mimes with Blue painted >faces    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:03:09 +0800 (CST)         Also .... I substituted on an Allen last summer... some Allen pedalboards are not the same either, depending on the model... The flats on the one I subbed on were not far enough forward... so I was playing on top of the flats, instead of, shall we say, on the corner of the flats...   My home church at one time had a Klann console... fortunately I was able to manage OK on that... at least the flats were in the right place...   Best wishes to all...     Morton Belcher fellow pipechat list member....     > The thing that seems to be common to them was an attempt to conserve = "floor > space". Thus, the pedal clavier is front-to-back "shorter" than a AGO > standard 'board. The spacing of each pedal at the *front* is the same = -- > but each pedal would get closer to its neighbors a little sooner as you > travel towards the rear. Of course, this doesn't matter much (as few > organists I know do their pedaling under the bench...<g>) > > Cheers! > > Tim Bovard > Little Rock AR > (who doesn't play often enough to feel compelled to fuss about minor > differences between individual pedalboards) > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Pedaling, hygiene et.al. From: <LLWheels@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:19:10 EST     --part1_13.123d1926.27d3d30e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/4/2001 3:03:50 AM Central Standard Time, DeserTBoB writes:       > AND the modern Continental organs > make NO sense at all in these more enlightened times! Anyone that's = dealt > with or has studied industrial techniques and hygiene will see this > straight away! > >       Actually, anyone studying this would be astonished that we are wasting so much bandwidth on pedalboards, when everyone knows it is the manual keys = that do the most damage to our skeletal structure. Hand, wrist and carpal = tunnel injuries are far more prevelant in our profession than hip/spine injuries.   Oon my computer I now type on a "natural" keyboard which is split down the =   middle with both halves angled slightly with the top towards the middle -- = an inverted V shape. I find it quite comfortable, and after 2 years I have difficulty in dealing with a straight keyboard. A keyboard of similar = shape would be much more efficient and more safe for the player. There have been =   experiments with keyboards of many shapes and configurations.   The bottom-line, however, is that such a keyboard has "an ice-cubes chance = in hell" of ever becoming the standard in the profession, Why? because we all =   like the familiar. It doesn't matter whether we are talking about = pedalboards or manual keys, stop-controls or rack-lights, benches or swiveling stools, =   flugel horns or barpfeiffe, we all like what we are used to.   A well-prepared professional in the 21st century should be ready for any combination of concave, radiating, flat, 56, 61, 30, 32, stop-key, = drawknob, tilting-tablet, steady/unsteady, romantic, classic, baroque, digital, = tubular or what-have-you instrument and be able to make music on it. No matter how =   much you and I disagree about the overriding concepts or small details of what makes up and organ, ITS NOT ABOUT THE INSTRUMENT - ITS ABOUT THE = MUSIC. If you cannot make music on the instrument in front of you, the problem is =   yours, not the organbuilders.   <<or has studied industrial techniques and hygiene>>   AS to DeserTBoBs hygiene, well, I will leave that to those who know you better :-)   Larry L. Wheelock Organist Conductor Composer Kenwood United Methodist Church Milwaukee, WI Austin Organ Co. Opus 1628, 1928 III/55       --part1_13.123d1926.27d3d30e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Univers" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 3/4/2001 3:03:50 AM Central = Standard Time, DeserTBoB &nbsp; <BR>writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">AND the modern = Continental organs <BR>make NO sense at all in these more enlightened times! &nbsp;Anyone = that's dealt <BR>with or has studied industrial techniques and hygiene will see this <BR>straight away! <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Univers" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR>Actually, anyone studying this would be astonished that we are wasting = so <BR>much bandwidth on pedalboards, when everyone knows it is the manual = keys that <BR>do the most damage to our skeletal structure. Hand, wrist and carpal = tunnel <BR>injuries are far more prevelant in our profession than hip/spine = injuries. <BR> <BR>Oon my computer I now type on a "natural" keyboard which is split down = the <BR>middle with both halves angled slightly with the top towards the = middle -- an <BR>inverted V shape. I find it quite comfortable, and after 2 years I = have <BR>difficulty in dealing with a straight keyboard. A keyboard of similar = shape <BR>would be much more efficient and more safe for the player. There have = been <BR>experiments with keyboards of many shapes and configurations. <BR> <BR>The bottom-line, however, is that such a keyboard has "an ice-cubes = chance in <BR>hell" of ever becoming the standard in the profession, Why? because we = all <BR>like the familiar. It doesn't matter whether we are talking about = pedalboards <BR>or manual keys, stop-controls or rack-lights, benches or swiveling = stools, <BR>flugel horns or barpfeiffe, we all like what we are used to. <BR> <BR>A well-prepared professional in the 21st century should be ready for = any <BR>combination of concave, radiating, flat, 56, 61, 30, 32, stop-key, = drawknob, <BR>tilting-tablet, steady/unsteady, romantic, classic, baroque, digital, = tubular <BR>or what-have-you instrument and be able to make music on it. No matter = how <BR>much you and I disagree about the overriding concepts or small details = of <BR>what makes up and organ, ITS NOT ABOUT THE INSTRUMENT - ITS ABOUT THE = MUSIC. &nbsp; <BR>If you cannot make music on the instrument in front of you, the = problem is <BR>yours, not the organbuilders. <BR> <BR>&lt;&lt;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">or has studied industrial techniques and = hygiene&gt;&gt; <BR> <BR>AS to DeserTBoBs hygiene, well, I will leave that to those who know = you <BR>better :-)</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Univers" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Univers" LANG=3D"0">Larry L. Wheelock <BR>Organist <BR>Conductor <BR>Composer <BR>Kenwood United Methodist Church <BR>Milwaukee, WI <BR>Austin Organ Co. Opus 1628, 1928 III/55</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Bimini" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Bimini" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_13.123d1926.27d3d30e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: More about Estey From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:23:55 -0500   "Mike Gettelman" wrote:   Thanks to all who responded to my plea for Estey pipe organ information. It is a surprisingly thin archive pointing mainly to the Brattleboro VT. Historical Society, the home of Estey.   The short story on my Estey, opus 2775 is it was built for First Church of Christ, Scientist in Rutherford, NJ. in 1928 where it spent 70 years providing faithful service in it's unmolested, original form. On the day disassembly began, the organ was happily played for several hours first by the man who would be supervising the disassembly, and arranging for it's storage. It still worked flawlessly. The chests had been releathered about 10 years previously, but the console had never been reopened since it's installation.   The removal contractor, an organ builder in his own right, removed and saved every fastener, and documented the architecture for easy reassembly when he realized it's pristine original form. This was an instrument that cried for reassembly in all it's originality to play again as itself, and not as part of another hybrid instrument.   So as we speak, the Estey sits high and dry in storage, and I hope to retrieve it sometime this summer. Maybe some of it's 70 years of proximity to God will rub off on me, <grin>   Cheers Mike    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:46:38 EST   In a message dated 3/4/01 9:45:27 AM Central Standard Time, mike3247@earthlink.net writes:   << pushing pistons with your nose on the fly----pushing toe studs with----well let's not go there. <G> >>   Hmmm, I wish I could! Unfortunately, I'm not that fortunate.    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:05:41 EST     --part1_c0.109e3f4c.27d3ddf5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I've found it's best to be as flexible as possible.   I was organist for a Methodist church for years. They didn't renew my contract due to my health, and now that I'm through the cancer crap, I'm = on the sub circuit once again.   I never know what I'm going to find! It's ranged from a really nice and well-maintained Austin to an almost dead Baldwin. I do enjoy taking all these instruments for a test drive - I just make sure to arrive about an = hour before the service, so I know what I'm dealing with. And sometimes, the organist for whom I'm subbing will leave me a warning - like "don't touch XYXY stop - it sets the chimes off!"   Vicki Ceruti   --part1_c0.109e3f4c.27d3ddf5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3>I've = found it's best to be as flexible as possible. <BR> <BR>I was organist for a Methodist church for years. &nbsp;They didn't = renew my <BR>contract due to my health, and now that I'm through the cancer crap, = I'm on <BR>the sub circuit once again. <BR> <BR>I never know what I'm going to find! &nbsp;It's ranged from a really = nice and <BR>well-maintained Austin to an almost dead Baldwin. &nbsp;I do enjoy = taking all <BR>these instruments for a test drive - I just make sure to arrive about = an hour <BR>before the service, so I know what I'm dealing with. &nbsp;And = sometimes, the <BR>organist for whom I'm subbing will leave me a warning - like "don't = touch <BR>XYXY stop - it sets the chimes off!" <BR> <BR>Vicki Ceruti</FONT></HTML>   --part1_c0.109e3f4c.27d3ddf5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling, hygiene et.al. From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:06:56 EST   In a message dated 3/4/01 11:21:43 AM Central Standard Time, = LLWheels@aol.com writes:   << If you cannot make music on the instrument in front of you, the problem = is yours, not the organbuilders. >>   BS... I've seen some organs that should be junked post haste. One of the major components of producing fine music is having a fine instrument on = which to render it. It is much like preparing a bearnaise sauce with butter. = With butter all is fine; however, if you substitute margarine the final product =   will be far inferior. Or to put it in a more human prospective -- if a soprano smokes cigarettes he/she will be unable to produce as good of = music that he/she could if he/she did not smoke them.   John   John