PipeChat Digest #1858 - Monday, March 5, 2001
 
Re: Blue Man Group
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Pedaling and Other Things
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese.
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: Blue Man Group
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: Speech Meet Results
  by "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@bellatlantic.net>
Re: Rueckpositiv divisions in Germany
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Blue Man Commercials
  by "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net>
Re: Pedaling and Other things
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
Oberlin, home of the flat pedal-board (NOT!)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re:  Pedaling and Other Things
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese.
  by "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com>
Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese.
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Pedaling and Other Things
  by "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com>
Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Pedaling and Other Things
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Benjamin Britton ?X Posted!( You're all just Great!)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Blue Man Group From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:54:40 EST     --part1_8e.11ebcae2.27d42fc0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Here is one website about this group:   <A HREF=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/rock/BlueManGroup/">Blue Man = Group</A>   I seached in Google - there are lots of sites!   Vicki Ceruti   --part1_8e.11ebcae2.27d42fc0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3>Here = is one website about this group: <BR> <BR> <A HREF=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/rock/BlueManGroup/">Blue Man = Group</A></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR>I seached in Google - there are lots of sites! <BR> <BR>Vicki Ceruti </FONT></HTML>   --part1_8e.11ebcae2.27d42fc0_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:04:52 -0800 (PST)   I thank God you are well.   --- Myosotis51@aol.com wrote: > I've found it's best to be as flexible as possible. > > I was organist for a Methodist church for years. > They didn't renew my > contract due to my health, and now that I'm through > the cancer crap, I'm on > the sub circuit once again. > > I never know what I'm going to find! It's ranged > from a really nice and > well-maintained Austin to an almost dead Baldwin. I > do enjoy taking all > these instruments for a test drive - I just make > sure to arrive about an hour > before the service, so I know what I'm dealing with. > And sometimes, the > organist for whom I'm subbing will leave me a > warning - like "don't touch > XYXY stop - it sets the chimes off!" > > Vicki Ceruti >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:05:27 -0800 (PST)   Thank God you are well --- Myosotis51@aol.com wrote: > I've found it's best to be as flexible as possible. > > I was organist for a Methodist church for years. > They didn't renew my > contract due to my health, and now that I'm through > the cancer crap, I'm on > the sub circuit once again. > > I never know what I'm going to find! It's ranged > from a really nice and > well-maintained Austin to an almost dead Baldwin. I > do enjoy taking all > these instruments for a test drive - I just make > sure to arrive about an hour > before the service, so I know what I'm dealing with. > And sometimes, the > organist for whom I'm subbing will leave me a > warning - like "don't touch > XYXY stop - it sets the chimes off!" > > Vicki Ceruti >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other Things From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:52:23 -0800   At 05:41 PM 3/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >It would seem to the casual observer that it is an important message for >such a respected organ school as Oberlin to specify their students learn >the straight pedal board exclusively while there.<snip>   It's also interesting to the casual observer that Oberlin's organ department is in danger of closing now, due to lack of new enrollments. Gee...I wonder why? Could it be due to the trashing of the old Pufinny Hall organ and installation of that "retro-pufad" silliness, along with a "retro-pufad" curriculum? Nawwwww...   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese. From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:51:02 -0600   To DesertBoB....once a telephone man....always a telephone man :-) jch    
(back) Subject: Re: Blue Man Group From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:52:46 -0600   If you check this site out...you'll see there's definitely a Chicago connection   jch   At 06:54 PM 3/4/01 -0500, you wrote: >Here is one website about this group: > ><http://www.angelfire.com/rock/BlueManGroup/>Blue Man Group > >I seached in Google - there are lots of sites! > >Vicki Ceruti    
(back) Subject: Re: Speech Meet Results From: "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:10:04 -0500   Paul,   I am very pleased each time you report on a success. I have visited = your web page as well as the one you made for the organ company, and have been very impressed.   I hope to hear you play some day (when your name is in lights).   It is also very helpful for you to spread the word about organ-playing, as =   you have done through the speech club.   Keep it up.   Paul R. Swank    
(back) Subject: Re: Rueckpositiv divisions in Germany From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:10:49 -0500   Viel danken f=FCr Ihrer Hilfe.   Mit w=E4rme Gr=FCsen,   Dr. Karl E. Moyer Gnade Lutherische Kirche Lancaster PA   > From: WiegandCJ@aol.com > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:20:59 EST > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: Rueckpositiv divisions in Germany >=20 > In einer eMail vom 04.03.01 02:35:28 (MEZ) Mitteleurop=E4ische Zeit schreib= t > kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu: >=20 > << Three of these (C minor, B minor and E minor) are > concerto-format works, and with a Rueckpositiv on the gallery edge, it's > easy to set the _concertino_ passages off on the _Rueckpositiv_ from the > _ripieno_ passages on the _Hauptwerk_ division.>> >=20 > I think you choose the Rueckpositiv because of its baroque character, i.e= .. > basing on 4 ft. Principal, many aliquotes, rather *sharp* sound. >=20 > <<How common is the Rueckpositiv to organs of "authentic" German > baroque design, either of 18th century or of modern re-creations? >> >=20 > I think like at all times and all around in the world. Enough money and s= pace > -> new organ _with_, otherwise -> new organ without Rueckpositiv (or 32 f= t. > or chamade or Zimbelstern or what ever you want). >=20 > But Bach and his contemporaries didn't a Rueckpositiv for your today purp= ose, > because the German (northern) baroque organs in any case (when they had m= ore > than one manuals) had a Brustwerk or Oberwerk with a similar disposition = and > sound as a Rueckpositiv. So they could play the concertino passages on th= e > Brustwerk or Oberwerk. >=20 > Most of the today organs are built as universal organs: Hauptwerk/Great f= or > *general purpose*, Swell for (French) Romantic, (Rueck-)Positiv for baroq= ue. > Such an organ obliges the use of the Rueckpositiv for concertino passages= , > but this is a problem of our days. BTW: exact this was the reason for _la= ter_ > additions of a (Rueck-)positiv to some romantic organs in Germany or Fran= ce: > better representation of baroque music (which was in the most cases not > achieved). >=20 > <<A little expereince can be a dangerous thing, but alst summer's > travels in Germany found no Rueckpositiv divisions on organs of > relatively baroque-style design, if I recall correctly: Eisenach (St. > George's Church); Arnstadt; Weimar (Stadtkirche or "Herderkirche")); > Brandenburger Dom (1723 Wagner organ); St. Catharine's Church, > Brandenburg; Leipzig (Thomaskirche, new organ). By comparison, however= , > the organ at the Stadtkirche in Balingen had two Rueckpositiv divisions, > left and right ends of the balcony.>> >=20 > I think you will find the answer above. Especially the new organ of the > Thomaskirche in Leipzig needs no Rueckpoitiv. This church has still the > romantic Sauer organ in its place. Straube, (first) interpret of Regers o= rgan > composition, worked here as Thomasorganist. Because interpretation of bar= oque > organ music on this Sauer is rather difficult, remedy was found not in ad= ding > some *baroque* stops or a Rueckpositiv to the Sauer (the result wuold hav= e > been a falsification of the Sauer), but the organ builder Gerhard Woehl (= who > built cleen styled *French symphonic* organs too) was ordered to build a > second, but pure *Bach* organ, and so a Rueckpositiv is not necessary. >=20 > As in all cases of my rare postings: please forgive my poor English. >=20 > Carl >=20 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20 >=20    
(back) Subject: Re: Blue Man Commercials From: "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:24:23 -0500   Their webpage, with Real Audio clips of their music, is www.blueman.com   -s.    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:25:07 -0500   ........... I had the same experience after a choir member did the polishing thing to the organ bench. ....resolved to get myself a seat belt! Ed, in Maine   ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other things     At 10:44 AM 3/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: ---not too much furniture polish on the bench please or you might end up = in the choir's lap.<snip>   >>. It seems she came in to practice just after I had finished my cleaning chores, "hopped" onto the bench, slid clear across, and wound up atop a low case next to = the bench where her music stacks were! She said the bruise would heal soon enough, however. DeserTBoB <<<<<<<<          
(back) Subject: Oberlin, home of the flat pedal-board (NOT!) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:06:42 -0800   I went to Oberlin, and they had both straight and AGO boards available on the practice organs (Flentrops and Holtkamps), and no big deal was made of it. In my day, both the concert organs (the Holtkamp in old Warner Hall = and the Skinner in Finney Chapel) had AGO consoles.   The Flentrop in new Warner Concert Hall may indeed have a flat pedal-board .... it came after I graduated, so I don't know for sure. The newer = Holtkamp (now in Texas) that briefly preceded it was AGO. Since the Fisk in Finney Chapel is to be a romantic/symphonic organ, it would follow logically that it would have an AGO board.   The Brombaugh in the seminary chapel DOES have a flat pedal-board, but = it's an unabashed copy of something early (Praetorius?).   Fenner Douglass was long-gone by the time the Fisk came, but his lawyer brother got a rich old lady with NO connection WHATEVER to Oberlin to give the money for it, so I'd imagine he had a hand in the design, since a new romantic-symphonic organ for Finney had been talked about since the = sixties.   It seems to me the Flentrop in the Episcopal church and the Brombaugh in = the Methodist church out in town have AGO pedals ... the old tracker in the Baptist church doesn't.   Cheers,   Bud       mike wrote:   > "Mike Gettelman" wrote: > > Would anyone know if the new Fisk being installed in Phinny Hall at > Oberlin University will continue with the tradition of straight pedal > board as are all the other instruments used by the organ department > there? > > It would seem to the casual observer that it is an important message for > such a respected organ school as Oberlin to specify their students learn > the straight pedal board exclusively while there. > > Cheers > Mike > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other Things From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:33:13 EST   Hello to all,   It is beyond comprehension that one would find a flat pedalboard more friendly than an AGO specification. I would expect to find the division drawknobs situated in a predictable manner, the couplers arranged = according to convention. The same goes for pistons, toe studs, crescendo, etc. = What's so unique about pedalboards that we cannot or will not accept a standard? =   Strange logic. Perhaps the next digression will be ripping out electric blowers in favor of beaters to raise wind. And all that climate control equipment would have to be junked so the absolute purist can freeze their keisters off in winter practice sessions and swelter in the summer.   Perhaps it is that I am nearing the age of antiquity that I appreciate the =   AGO pedalboard. It is more anatomically friendly and, thankfully, in = greater numbers than the hay rakes that are being advocated by this new movement = of Neo-backwardism.   Jim Pitts  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese. From: "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:22:30 -0600     ------=3D_NextPart_001_0001_01C0A50A.5DC4ABC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable         >Indeed, which is why the standards came about in the FIRST place! = Evolu=3D tionary as >they are, they at least provided a modicum of saneness, = wher=3D eupon some of the >"variables" every organist has to face from = instrument=3D to instrument are "levelled out". >One must keep in mind that the = organ=3D ist STILL has to contend with different stop and >registration = mechanisms=3D in each and every case, as well as different acoustics, voicing = >schools=3D , and so on. Why throw MORE uncertainty into the mix, when you don't = hav=3D e >to? It's just a "make work" situation, at best.   I suppose in a utopian musical world we'd all have Boesendorfers, = Aeolian=3D -Skinners, fantastic salaries, perfect acoustics, blah blah blah. But = we=3D don't. It's the organist's job to make music with the available = resourc=3D es. Being inflexible will get you fired.   All this talk about "standards" reminds me of Dan Quayle's rant about = "fa=3D mily values." Whose "standards" should we chose? AGO, German, French, = S=3D iberian?? Who gets to decide? =3D20   Alright, so we get standardized. Then the people who complain about the = =3D lack of standards will start complaining about cookie cutter organs. = Gee=3D sh!!<br clear=3D3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D =3D3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0001_01C0A50A.5DC4ABC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV><BR></DIV> = <DI=3D V><FONT face=3D3Darial size=3D3D2><BR></FONT>&gt;Indeed, which is why the = sta=3D ndards came about in the FIRST place!&nbsp; Evolutionary as &gt;they = are,=3D they at least provided a modicum of&nbsp; saneness, whereupon some of = th=3D e &gt;"variables" every organist has to face from instrument to = instrumen=3D t are "levelled out".&nbsp; &gt;One must keep in mind that the organist = S=3D TILL has to contend with different stop and &gt;registration mechanisms = i=3D n each and every case, as well as different acoustics, voicing = &gt;school=3D s, and so on.&nbsp; Why throw MORE uncertainty into the mix, when you = don=3D 't have &gt;to?&nbsp; It's just a "make work" situation, at = best.<BR><BR>=3D I suppose&nbsp;in a utopian musical world we'd all have Boesendorfers, = Ae=3D olian-Skinners, fantastic salaries, perfect acoustics, blah blah = blah.&nb=3D sp; But we don't.&nbsp; It's the organist's job to make music with the = av=3D ailable resources.&nbsp; Being inflexible will get you fired.</DIV> = <DIV>=3D &nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>All this talk about "standards" reminds me of Dan = Quayl=3D e's rant about "family values."&nbsp; Whose "standards" should we = chose?&=3D nbsp; AGO, German, French, Siberian??&nbsp; Who gets to = decide?&nbsp;&nbs=3D p;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Alright, so we get standardized.&nbsp; = Th=3D en the people who complain about the lack of standards will start = complai=3D ning about cookie cutter organs.&nbsp; Geesh!!</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> = <D=3D IV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML><DIV><BR><br clear=3D3Dall><hr>Get your FREE = d=3D ownload of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://exp=3D lorer.msn.com</a><br></p></DIV>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0001_01C0A50A.5DC4ABC0--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese. From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:28:39 EST     --part1_4d.8425929.27d48c17_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Now Ray, Siberian Organ standards would at least be interesting. LOL.   I am wondering, though, if the AGO standards should be at least reviewed = from time to time. Are people taller, shorter, this or that, from when the standards were first initiated?   My 2 cents worth.   Neil B   --part1_4d.8425929.27d48c17_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Now Ray, Siberian Organ = standards would at least be interesting. LOL. <BR> <BR>I am wondering, though, if the AGO standards should be at least = reviewed from <BR>time to time. &nbsp;Are people taller, shorter, this or that, from = when the <BR>standards were first initiated? <BR> <BR>My 2 cents worth. <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_4d.8425929.27d48c17_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other Things From: "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:28:11 -0600     ------=3D_NextPart_001_0002_01C0A50B.292B49E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Not to continually beat a dead horse, organ enrollment is down = EVERYWHERE=3D ! The University of Michigan has sold off a few practice organs because = =3D there aren't enough students to play them. =3D20       ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Scarborough Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:14 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other Things     At 05:41 PM 3/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >It would seem to the casual observer that it is an important message for >such a respected organ school as Oberlin to specify their students learn >the straight pedal board exclusively while there.<snip>   It's also interesting to the casual observer that Oberlin's organ department is in danger of closing now, due to lack of new enrollments. Gee...I wonder why? Could it be due to the trashing of the old Pufinny Hall organ and installation of that "retro-pufad" silliness, along with a "retro-pufad" curriculum? Nawwwww...   dB     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org<br = clear=3D3Dall><hr>G=3D et your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D3D"http://explorer.msn.c=3D om">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0002_01C0A50B.292B49E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Not to = continu=3D ally beat a dead horse, organ enrollment is down = <STRONG>EVERYWHERE!&nbsp=3D ; </STRONG>The University of Michigan has sold off a few practice organs = =3D because there aren't enough students to play them.&nbsp; <BR></DIV> = <DIV>=3D <BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = MA=3D RGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV = =3D style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV = style=3D3D=3D "BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; FONT-COLOR: = black"><B>From:</B>&n=3D bsp;Bob Scarborough</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt = Arial"><B>Sent:</B>&nb=3D sp;Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:14 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt = Arial"><=3D B>To:</B>&nbsp;PipeChat</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt = Arial"><B>Subject:=3D </B>&nbsp;Re: Pedaling and Other Things</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>At 05:41 PM = =3D 3/4/2001 -0500, you wrote:<BR>&gt;It would seem to the casual observer = th=3D at it is an important message for<BR>&gt;such a respected organ school = as=3D Oberlin to specify their students learn<BR>&gt;the straight pedal board = =3D exclusively while there.&lt;snip&gt;<BR><BR>It's also interesting to the = =3D casual observer that Oberlin's organ<BR>department is in danger of = closin=3D g now, due to lack of new<BR>enrollments.&nbsp; Gee...I wonder = why?&nbsp;=3D Could it be due to the trashing of the<BR>old Pufinny Hall organ and = ins=3D tallation of that "retro-pufad" silliness,<BR>along with a "retro-pufad" = =3D curriculum?&nbsp; Nawwwww...<BR><BR>dB<BR><BR><BR>"Pipe Up and Be = Heard!"=3D <BR>PipeChat:&nbsp; A&nbsp; discussion List for pipe/digital organs = &amp;=3D related topics<BR>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org<BR>List: = mailto:pip=3D echat@pipechat.org<BR>Administration:&nbsp; = mailto:admin@pipechat.org<BR>=3D Subscribe/Unsubscribe:&nbsp; mailto:requests@pipechat.org<BR><BR> = <DIV></=3D DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><DIV><BR><br clear=3D3Dall><hr>Get your = FREE=3D download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://e=3D xplorer.msn.com</a><br></p></DIV>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0002_01C0A50B.292B49E0--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling, logic, standards and cheese. From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:23:15 -0800   At 12:22 AM 3/5/2001 -0600, Cranky Ray wrote: >All this talk about "standards" reminds me of Dan Quayle's rant about >"family values." Whose "standards" should we chose? AGO, German, = French, >Siberian?? Who gets to decide?<snip>   About as illogical response as any, I'd reckon. What Quayle and the vast right wing conspiracy have to do with reasonable organ console standards, I've not a clue. Is the AGO a part of said amalgam of evil? I think not...it's about the only LOGICAL thing the Guild did for many, many = years!   >Alright, so we get standardized. Then the people who complain about the >lack of standards will start complaining about cookie cutter >organs. Geesh!!<snip>   Maybe YOU will...I won't.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedaling and Other Things From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 03:32:31 EST     --part1_6a.bd81ba0.27d4a91f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/4/01 10:41:01 PM !!!First Boot!!!, mike3247@earthlink.net writes:     > It would seem to the casual observer that it is an important message for > such a respected organ school as Oberlin to specify their students learn > the straight pedal board exclusively while there. > >   I wouldn't consider it a "message" for Oberlin to have all straight pedalboards on their instruments. There are plenty of place around with = AGO spec boards. Maybe it's just evening the odds!   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_6a.bd81ba0.27d4a91f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/4/01 10:41:01 PM !!!First Boot!!!, <BR>mike3247@earthlink.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It would seem to = the casual observer that it is an important message for <BR>such a respected organ school as Oberlin to specify their students = learn <BR>the straight pedal board exclusively while there. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I wouldn't consider it a "message" for Oberlin to have all straight <BR>pedalboards on their instruments. &nbsp;There are plenty of place = around with AGO <BR>spec boards. &nbsp;Maybe it's just evening the odds! <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6a.bd81ba0.27d4a91f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Benjamin Britton ?X Posted!( You're all just Great!) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:10:13 EST   Dear List:   I thank all who forwarded information to me about the Purcell piece. I have copied all the helpful information from all who responded. These are great lists with very helpful hard working people. Again, Many Many Thanks to all!   Ron Severin