PipeChat Digest #1864 - Wednesday, March 7, 2001
 
RE: Successful recruitment to the organ
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
Re: console standards
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1863 - 03/06/01
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1863 - 03/06/01
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
AGO Convention in SoCal?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: AGO Convention in SoCal?
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
Re: AGO Convention in SoCal?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Copeland!
  by "Stu Ballinger" <wa2bss@vh.net>
Copland, not Copeland!
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
RE: Copeland!
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Copland, not Copeland!
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Lent 1 x-posted
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: a legacy of organ scores
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
"Copeland" vs. "Copland"
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: console standards
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Successful recruitment to the organ
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
Re: Successful recruitment to the organ
  by "George Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com>
Re: console standards
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: console standards
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: console standards
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: console standards
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: console standards
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: AGO Convention in SoCal?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Successful recruitment to the organ From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:16:09 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0000_01C0A637.3A377920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Mike, What have you written. Anything recital stuff? Ps & Fs??   [Mike S. ]   Bruce,   Mostly service type stuff. You can hear midis on my composition page. = A couple of titles have no midis because I lost them when I had computer trouble. I never got around to making new ones.   http://home.adelphia.net/~mswal/compose.htm   Best wishes, Mike       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0000_01C0A637.3A377920 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=3D3Dleft class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader = dir=3D3Dltr><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DTahoma>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D2>Mike, <BR>What have = you =3D written.=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;Anything recital stuff? &nbsp;Ps &amp; Fs?? = <BR><BR><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#0000ff></FONT><FONT size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D590281117-06032001>[Mike S.=3D20 ]&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001>Bruce,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001>Mostly service type stuff.&nbsp; &nbsp;You = =3D can hear=3D20 midis on my composition page.&nbsp; A couple of titles have no midis =3D because I=3D20 lost them when I had computer trouble.&nbsp; I never got around to =3D making new=3D20 ones.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001><A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://home.adelphia.net/~mswal/compose.htm">http://home.adelphia= =3D ..net/~mswal/compose.htm</A></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001>Best =3D wishes,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001>Mike</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D590281117-06032001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D590281117-06032001></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOC= =3D KQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0000_01C0A637.3A377920--    
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 6 Mar 2001 10:26:41 -0800   I think we can all agree that we should just build a time machine, go back = however many centuries, and drop copies of the AGO spec all over Europe.   I can't resist another industrial standardization story. A lot of = airplanes have two side-by-side levers, one that raises and lowers the = flaps, and one that raises and lowers the landing gear. There's a de = facto standard for which one is on the left and which is on the right -- = except that in the Beechcraft Bonanza, it's the other way around.   The first thing you usually do once you've gotten the airplane on the = ground and slowed down below flying speed is to raise the flaps. Guess = whose airplanes get the most bent propellers.   Dick      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1863 - 03/06/01 From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:42:50 EST     --part1_26.121cf776.27d689aa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Is it me or am I the only one to notice that most web pages for organists really aren't very good? I really hate to sound critical of most things = but if one is going to advertise oneself be it on the web or anywhere else, I would think one would want a concise statement that the layman would understand. After all, we cannot expect those who don't play the = instrument to understand everything about it. If we are going to try to create = interest in the organ again, we have to give people a reason to see and listen = again.   I'm really loving these pages. I feel like I've run into a group of old friends that I haven't seen or spoken with in years. Does anybody feel = like fomenting revolution in the AGO? I'm sure somebody is going to feel that this is some sort of apostasy but we're not getting anywhere sitting on = our tailfeathers and being ignored by the "Gang on Riverside Drive".   Best to All! Dennis   --part1_26.121cf776.27d689aa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Is it me or am I the = only one to notice that most web pages for organists <BR>really aren't very good? &nbsp;I really hate to sound critical of most = things but <BR>if one is going to advertise oneself be it on the web or anywhere = else, I <BR>would think one would want a concise statement that the layman would <BR>understand. &nbsp;After all, we cannot expect those &nbsp;who don't = play the instrument <BR>to understand everything about it. &nbsp;If we are going to try to = create interest <BR>in the organ again, we have to give people a reason to see and listen = again. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>I'm really loving these pages. &nbsp;I feel like I've run into a group = of old <BR>friends that I haven't seen or spoken with in years. &nbsp;Does = anybody feel like <BR>fomenting revolution in the AGO? &nbsp;I'm sure somebody is going to = feel that <BR>this is some sort of apostasy but we're not getting anywhere sitting = on our <BR>tailfeathers and being ignored by the "Gang on Riverside Drive". = &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Best to All! <BR>Dennis &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_26.121cf776.27d689aa_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1863 - 03/06/01 From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:32:25 EST   Hey Dennis:   I'm with ya, The AGO rev. sounds like a good idea. The only thing is can we make enough noise to get their attention? The opinions of those of us hunkered down here in the trenches, are often looked down upon by those who've probably never left the big apple. If it doesn't happen in = NYC it probably didn't! California hasn't received a large new pipe organ in a while so we were over looked for the Nat'l in 2000. We applied! and were turned down.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: AGO Convention in SoCal? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:51:05 -0800   Let's face it ... there AREN'T a lot of notable organs in Southern California, new OR old ... you couldn't build a whole convention around the two at the Crystal Cathedral ... and aside from those two, the ones there ARE are so widely-scattered that transporting a convention the size of an AGO National would be a NIGHTMARE. Also, remember, in order to accommodate the whole convention, churches and halls have to seat upwards of 2,000 people, or recitals have to be played two and three times.   Urban areas like San Francisco, Portland and Seattle are relatively compact by comparison, AND organ-laden.   Perhaps after Disney Hall and the Cathedral are finished ...   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Convention in SoCal? From: "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:30:43 -0500   Dear Bud and Pipechatters, There was an official yellow flyer available at ORGAN ALIVE in January. Said flyer announced that the AGO National in 2004 would be in Los Angeles! The San Diego chapter is hosting a Regional Convention this year from June 17th - 21st. In addition to the outline of the regional convention in TAO, one can visit the San Diego AGO chapter's website (Sorry, I do not have that URL handy.. You may find it under Chapters with Web Sites, subheading California.. on one of the AGO website pages.) The AGO Headquarters URL is http://www.agohq.org . (or possibly without the www ;-)   > Perhaps after Disney Hall and the Cathedral are finished ... Do you expect them to be completed by the summer of 2004? Cheers,     Pat Maimone Post Chapel, West Point, NY 10996-1390 III/57 Aeolian-Skinner/Moeller/Gress-Miles who has relatives and friends in So. Cal ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Convention in SoCal? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:36:46 EST   Hi Bud:   Bud writes:>   Let's face it ... there AREN'T a lot of notable organs in Southern California, new OR old ... you couldn't build a whole convention around the two at the Crystal Cathedral ... and aside from those two, the ones there ARE are so widely-scattered that transporting a convention the size of an AGO National would be a NIGHTMARE. Also, remember, in order to accommodate the whole convention, churches and halls have to seat upwards of 2,000 people, or recitals have to be played two and three times.   In Seattle the two best organs were St. James and St. Marks Cathedrals as far as in the City is concerned. The new Reuter in a dead room was well played by John Weaver. We had to travel 30/45 miles to hear the Fritts and Pasi organs. I liked these organs the best of all, the = Fritts' especially. All of the recitals were played three times. There was so much traffic that the busses crawled or were dead stop. So much for a compact environment. Effectively most of the organ venues were out side the city proper so we were on busses most of the time. None of these sat 2,000 people, not even Pacific Lutheran University. The mega churches that seat 2,000 or more around the country have mega digital organs. You wouldn't walk across the street to hear those! CC comes closer to seating that many. Most recitals there bring 300/500 on a good night. Felix Hell now would be a different story at CC. I'll bet it would be packed!!!!   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Copeland! From: "Stu Ballinger" <wa2bss@vh.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:06:11 -0500   That Copeland Conchterto for Organ & Orchestra is also available from the = OHS, & it's URL:www.organsociety.org/ & click on "Catalog!" Stu = Ballinger!   (EPB Fellow,1995,OHS!)  
(back) Subject: Copland, not Copeland! From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:36:59 -0500     Maybe while we're discussing Aaron buddy, we should spell his name correctly: Copland, without a letter "e" in it.   Please, no offense, anyone. I, too, have spelling problems. :-(   Bad speller guy =8B or is it schpeller? :-) Karl E. Moyer    
(back) Subject: RE: Copeland! From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:23:20 -0600   Kan't anyone spell aroun hear?   -----Original Message----- From: Stu Ballinger [mailto:wa2bss@vh.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 3:06 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Copeland!     That Copeland Conchterto for Organ & Orchestra is also available from the OHS, & it's URL:www.organsociety.org/ & click on "Catalog!" Stu = Ballinger!   (EPB Fellow,1995,OHS!)   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Copland, not Copeland! From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:40:34 EST   Bad speller guy =8B or is it schpeller? :-) Karl E. Moyer   I thought speller guy was the dude in St. Louis!  
(back) Subject: Lent 1 x-posted From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:49:11 -0500   I've been away for a few days (overflowing mailbox), so am behind on correspondence.   Lent 1:   Prelude on Ein feste Burg, by Helmut Walcha Entrance rite composed of The Great Litany, in procession Considering the lectionary, the Psalmody after first reading HAD to be (as for many of you) Eagle's Wings, with the stanzas by choir alone, congregation joining on refrain. Gospel acclamation: Plainchant, Mode 1 (wov 611b) Hymn of the Day: A Mighty Fortress (rhythmic rock'em-sock'em style) Anthem at Offerng: By the Babylonian Rivers, a Latvian folktune arranged = by Rich Erickson Our Father chanted by all (as always in Advent and Lent) Hymn during communion: Let Us Break Bread Together followed by choir: Plainchant: Ecce tempus idionem (Mode III, with organ verses [2 and 4] by Thomas Tallis) Post-Communion: On My Heart Imprint Your Image (Der am Kreuz) Recessional: The Glory of These Forty Days (Erhalt uns, Herr) Postlude on Erhalt uns, Herr, by Helmut Walcha   New pottery chalice, paten, hostbox, flagon, all crafted by one of our = young deacons. New wood processional crucifix.   A thoroughly stunning service, withal. Our new organist is really SOMETHING. He composes in Finale on Saturday night, has me xerox the = result in the morning, and teaches it to the choir at 9 a.m. SMASHING stuff. = He's been with us five weeks now, and there hasn't been a single hymn that was introduced by less than a real chorale prelude or improv on the cantus firmus. I don't think it's just me; I think we ALL love it!   Alan          
(back) Subject: Re: a legacy of organ scores From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:18:35 -0600       Randy Terry wrote:   > It will take some time to go through these scores. I have decided that = the best > stewardship I could do would be to go through my current library, which = includes > quite a bit of doubling, in some cases tripling of scores, as well as = Mr. > Stanley's library, and make sure the *extras* are put to good use.   FWIW, I would recommend donating one set of them to a significant library, = either a college / university with a strong organ program, a major metropolitan = library with a strong, independant music department (Dallas, NY, Chicago, = Indianapolis, LA, Philadelphia) or the Bagaduce Music Lending Library in Maine.   ns    
(back) Subject: "Copeland" vs. "Copland" From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:51:10 EST   "Copland" was also the name of a really, truly lame Sylvester Stallone vehicle, sadly not nominated for a single award. Aaron Copland did NOT compose the soundtrack.  
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:23:24 +0800   > It really irritates me when we have the opportunity to hear an organ = manually pumped and the electric blower is > used.   Bruce, who is that pushing your car? Why don't you start the engine? Bob E.  
(back) Subject: Re: Successful recruitment to the organ From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:09:14 -0800   Bravo, Seb - see below... -----Original Message----- From: TubaMagna@aol.com <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, March 04, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Successful recruitment to the organ     >Mr. Russell brought up the subject of an unsuccessful video of an event >intended to raise organ consciousness amongst the young, as part of a thread >about organ students, as a tangent to a thread about pedal board design.     I've even been to seminars on the organ and its music and seen slipshod preparation and presentation by the "good ol' boy" network. It is inexcusable to put me to sleep with a boring lecture on Saturday, and then complain about boring sermons on Sunday, but it happens.   >Part of the self-destruction of the organ community lies in the fact that the >control of many things, such as events, recitals, lectures, and media >projects, are controlled by a very, very small number of people. A very >select inner guard, to which there is little entree, controls most of = these >things, on both a national and a chapter level.   Indeed. I've noticed this phenomena whenever I get close to a large city. I've been a member of 3 smaller chapters, and have been welcomed (and even encouraged to enter leadership!). I've also been close enough to large cities to visit their programs and see the tight-knit cliques and their control over things. This extends even to desirable job postings, which often never make it to the public eye, but are passed around to a select few. I've been friends (or at least good acquaintances) with some of the folks "in the loop" and know this is true.   >I know for a fact that many of the most capable and scholarly people in = my >chapter, highly educated lecturers as well as brilliant recitalists, = shall >never, ever be heard in their lifetime because of this. They get = exhausted >and demoralized, and stop trying, staying away from all Guild events, and end >up being a stranger to their chapter, their only contact with the AGO = being >their monthly copy of The American Organist.   I used to let it bug me, but now I just realize that's the way it works, = for good or bad, human nature is what it is.   >Some of them do go out on their own, publishing their books and issuing their >CDs independently, often to be greeted with resentment.   Or do it privately for a close circle of friends that actually care about them. I've had absolutely no luck getting backing for my CD projects, but I've encountered more than a little prejudice due to the fact that the instrument I record on has some digital voices. So, I record for my own enjoyment, as I never had any fiction that I'd actually make loads of = money on an organ CD... it was for the satisfaction of bringing unheard = repertoire to light.   We often lose sight of the big picture, I think. Being an organist or = organ builder should not be primarily about preserving a tradition, holding out against trite music, EP vs. tracker, digital vs. pipes or any other issue, as noble as it might seem. If you haven't read this month's TAO (the American Organist) magazine, and the article on Felix Hell, do so. The young man plays for one basic reason: The sheer joy of making music. = It's nice to be recognized, asked to speak or play, get recording contracts or = be published. Everyone needs encouragement and acceptance, but in the end, = if you do what is your passion for any other reason than for the joy of doing it (and the glory of your Maker, if you believe in God), you can easily become disallusioned and disheartened. Add to that fact that many = organists simply do not have the force of personality to keep hammering away at the status quo until they get their chance to shine, and you've got a recipe = for heartbreak. As for me, I'm determined to keep chipping away doing what I love. If I'm never recognized, I can still come to the end of my days satified that I did my best, and maybe someday years later someone will = sift through what I've left behind and get some joy from it.   SDG     Jonathan Orwig FBC Riverside, CA - USA http://home.earthlink.net/~giwro/index.htm (personal) http://evensong.homepage.com/ (Music Publishing) http://www.mp3.com/orwig (mp3 site)      
(back) Subject: Re: Successful recruitment to the organ From: "George Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:22:34 -0600   Jonathan... thanks for writing .... your attitude is a breath of fresh air = .... and very nicely phrased .... you must play well!   Sand Lawn          
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:44:48 EST   In a message dated 3/6/01 9:55:36 AM Central Standard Time, = Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << At every OHS convention, I volunteer to pump and when I am permitted I really enjoy it. And it is not difficult. It really irritates me when we = have the opportunity to hear an organ manually pumped and the electric blower = is used. >>   Hmmmmmmm, doesn't your arm get tired?  
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:46:53 EST   In a message dated 3/6/01 10:43:39 AM Central Standard Time, conwayb@sympatico.ca writes:   << Back in the "olden days", 1934, or thereabouts, I was often impressed = into having to hand pump the organ at the church where I sang in the choir. = The Organist and Choirmaster, Dr. Boulter, had a goodly supply of "organ blowers". >>   I always enjoy a young "organ blower"... especially a blond one!  
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:47:56 EST   In a message dated 3/6/01 10:43:39 AM Central Standard Time, conwayb@sympatico.ca writes:   << So I got to be the "Blower Boy" rather too often! >>   OH? Do Tell......  
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:40:27 -0800   At 08:23 AM 3/7/2001 +0800, you wrote: >Bruce, who is that pushing your car? Why don't you start the = engine?<snip>   He can't hear you. He's busy trimming the wicks in his whale oil lamps in =   the house right at the moment.....   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:48:30 -0800   At 10:26 AM 3/6/2001 -0800, you wrote: >The first thing you usually do once you've gotten the airplane on the >ground and slowed down below flying speed is to raise the flaps. Guess >whose airplanes get the most bent propellers.<snip>   Excellent and very true example. The Beech Baron confounds quite a few pilots, also. Needless to say, organs don't hazard bent prop blades, but this does say a LOT for standardization. Another example was AAR-standard =   control pedestals for diesel locomotives. Before that time, things could get VERY interesting out on the road. Why invite operating errors? Of course, to the player, an operating error is hitting a "clam" on a strange =   organ whose control interface is skewed due to some organ designer's ego stroking "artistic expression" of some retro (or just plain stupid) = console configuration.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Convention in SoCal? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:53:07 -0800   At 03:30 PM 3/6/2001 -0500, BuuD-by-the-Beach wrote: > > Perhaps after Disney Hall<snip>   Hooo boy. What an embarrassment THAT thing's gonna be! Are you SURE you'd= =20 want to expose conventioners to that "super scoop of fries" fa=E7ade= designed=20 by an architect known to be an acoustical failure, on a organ built by a=20 confirmed "orgelbunghole" partisan?   dB