PipeChat Digest #1865 - Wednesday, March 7, 2001
 
Scott Turkington Tonight at St. Agnes, NYC
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Kids & the Organ
  by "Nathanael & Laura Iversen" <mediaart@optonline.net>
RE: console standards
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Kids & the Organ
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1864 - 03/07/01
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Medinah Temple Austin to go to storage (cross posted)
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Palm Beach, Fla. Visit
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
kids and organs
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: kids and organs
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Kids & the Organ
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: AGO Convention in SoCal?
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: console standards
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Scott Turkington Tonight at St. Agnes, NYC From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:40:51 EST     --part1_50.12598e42.27d7a273_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Lists and Friends,   As part of a continuing series of "Rush Hour Concerts" at St. Agnes Church = i=3D n=3D20 Manhattan, Scott Turkington will play the following recital at 6:30 = this=3D20 evening:   J. S. Bach   Valet will ich dir geben (Cantus in the Pedal, BWV 736)   Clavier=3DFCbung Part 3, large settings Kyrie Christe Kyrie=3D20   Charles Tournemire   From the Seven Last Words 2. Today thou shalt be with me in Paradise   Introit for the Feast of St. Joseph   Marco Enrico Bossi   Ave Maria (Offertory for the Feast of The Annunciation)   Sir Charles Villiers Stanford   Final Movement from Sonata No. 4 (Celtica), Opus 153   Scott Turkington is Director of Music Ministries at St. John Roman = Catholic=3D20 Church, Stamford, Connecticut. St. Agnes Church is at 143 East 43rd = Street,=3D20 one half block east of Grand Central Terminal. The building, which = replaces=3D20 the former Gothic structure destroyed by fire about a decade ago, is = in=3D20 "Pre-Vatican II Romanesque style," with elegant Pre-Vatican II = Romanesque=3D20 acoustics!! Organ by Mander, 1998.   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   --part1_50.12598e42.27d7a273_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D3D2=3D >Dear Lists and Friends, <BR> <BR>As part of a continuing series of "Rush Hour Concerts" at St. Agnes = Chur=3D ch in=3D20 <BR>Manhattan, Scott Turkington will play the following recital at 6:30 = this=3D =3D20 <BR>evening: <BR> <BR>J. S. Bach <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;Valet will ich dir geben (Cantus in the Pedal, BWV 736) <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;Clavier=3DFCbung Part 3, large settings <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kyrie <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Christe <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kyrie=3D20 <BR> <BR>Charles Tournemire <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;From the Seven Last Words <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2. Today thou shalt be with me in = Paradis=3D e <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Introit for the Feast of St. Joseph <BR> <BR>Marco Enrico Bossi <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;Ave Maria (Offertory for the Feast of The Annunciation) <BR> <BR>Sir Charles Villiers Stanford <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;Final Movement from Sonata No. 4 (Celtica), Opus 153 <BR> <BR>Scott Turkington is Director of Music Ministries at St. John Roman = Catho=3D lic=3D20 <BR>Church, Stamford, Connecticut. St. Agnes Church is at 143 East 43rd = Stre=3D et,=3D20 <BR>one half block east of Grand Central Terminal. The building, which = repla=3D ces=3D20 <BR>the former Gothic structure destroyed by fire about a decade ago, is = in=3D20 <BR>"Pre-Vatican II Romanesque style," with elegant Pre-Vatican II = Romanesqu=3D e=3D20 <BR>acoustics!! Organ by Mander, 1998. <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler <BR>www.mander-organs.com</FONT></HTML>   --part1_50.12598e42.27d7a273_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Kids & the Organ From: "Nathanael & Laura Iversen" <mediaart@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:35:48 -0500   In my experience, my four children are interested in what I'm interested = in. Ever since I leaned over to my then 2 year old daughter during a rousing recession piece played with pedal reeds and a wonderful trompette en = chamade and said, "Do you hear the beefy pedals?" she has always leaned over to me in excitement when the organ is going and says, "Beefy pedals, Daddy, = Beefy pedals!!" She's five, and the three and two year olds are all the same. = We all went to an organ recital played by my teacher (Noel Werner), and the kids had a blast. The two year old sat in my lap and looked up several times to whisper with wide eyes, "BEEFY PEDALS, Daddy!".   I've taken them up to the console of the organ (a beautiful 50 some rank instrument, fully antiphonally divided, etc.) where I take my lessons, and they were duly impressed with all the keys, buttons, drawknobs, etc.   Ultimately, attracting people to the organ isn't about some fancy program = or a goofy interactive website with wacky icons for kids. It's just about sharing the joy of making music. I'm not yet accomplished enough to play = a service and so, work every day out of Gleason, but my kids see me all the time at the piano, or at my synthesizer rig (with footboard, of course) = just making music. For them, the highlight of the week is their piano lesson. Daddy plays the piano, so for them, it is special to play the piano. Even our barely walking one year old can just reach up and slap at the keys on the piano with a big grin on her face. Even better is the little "choir" that forms whenever I play the piano in our living room. I can be playing = a Bach Two Part Invention, and all three of the older ones will be "singing" with full voice words that they're just making up (of course, all are singing something different.) You can't barely hear yourself think, play = or anything else, but everyone is having a blast. Do you think that they'll grow up and enjoy music, whether they ever appear on the concert stage or not?   Believe it or not, little kids don't need a flashy Vierne piece or the = Widor Toccata to be impressed. They are interested in fun. When they can = explore the instrument, laughing about the sound of the pipes, or hearing a = familiar tune played with a ridiculous registration, or letting them pull and = retire stops as you play gets a great reaction. It's not at all uncommon for me = to have an "improvised accompanyment" down in the bass, or up in the high end of the keyboard as I play from one of the little ones sitting next to me = on the bench. To me music is fun, I want it fun for my children. There are times we work at music, and times that we just play, mistakes be darned.   If you want to capture the attention of children, you have to have fun = with them before they hit junior high and are too cool for their own good. = Give the Sunday School teachers a break some Sunday and have an organ-party = with the little kids. Don't hold a recital; let them explore the instrument. You'll find that a three or four year old is transported to heaven walking around on a pedalboard with a 16' reed drawn. Loud caucophony? You bet, but the smiles are worth it. You'll be mobbed at the console for weeks afterwards if everyone has had fun.   I think that this is something that happens when everyone simply does what they can in their own backyard. Face it, most people have never even = heard a pipe organ, much less one played properly. I didn't even know what an organ was supposed to sound like until a Music Appreciation class I took = as a freshman in college! (I grew up in church, too! Growing up, I was = often there 4-5 nights a week!). Ever since, I've had great respect for the instrument, and am now learing to play it myself. MTV will never have a "Pipe Organ Party" with sensual dancers bopping around... this isn't a = mass media solution where having the AGO spend big bucks is going to help. = It's just touching the people immediately around us, and letting them explore = the instrument in a totally non-threatening environment.   My $.02,   Nathanael    
(back) Subject: RE: console standards From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:40:14 -0600   You haven't seen Bruce's car.... :-)   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Bob Elms [mailto:elmsr@albanyis.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 6:23 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: console standards     > It really irritates me when we have the opportunity to hear an organ manually pumped and the electric blower is > used.   Bruce, who is that pushing your car? Why don't you start the engine? Bob E.   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Kids & the Organ From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:47:08 -0500   Mike Gettelman wrote:   It may be 2 cents for you, but for pipe organ perpetuity it is worth a buh-zillion dollars. Children indeed are the future of everything, and our influence on them in their formative years determines what will be.   I might add that we not forget the older generations of people who = enter organ appreciation later in life. The tight knit organ community makes it difficult for such a person to enter in. As Nathanael writes, his one year = old likes to slap at the keys, well I am here to tell you folks, there a 50 = year olds who would die for that chance too.   Cheers, for the wonderful stories like this   Mike   Nathanael & Laura Iversen wrote:   > In my experience, my four children are interested in what I'm interested = in. > Ever since I leaned over to my then 2 year old daughter during a rousing > recession piece played with pedal reeds and a wonderful trompette en = chamade > and said, "Do you hear the beefy pedals?" she has always leaned over to = me > in excitement when the organ is going and says, "Beefy pedals, Daddy, = Beefy > pedals!!" She's five, and the three and two year olds are all the same. = We > all went to an organ recital played by my teacher (Noel Werner), and the > kids had a blast. The two year old sat in my lap and looked up several > times to whisper with wide eyes, "BEEFY PEDALS, Daddy!". > > I've taken them up to the console of the organ (a beautiful 50 some rank > instrument, fully antiphonally divided, etc.) where I take my lessons, = and > they were duly impressed with all the keys, buttons, drawknobs, etc. > > Ultimately, attracting people to the organ isn't about some fancy = program or > a goofy interactive website with wacky icons for kids. It's just about > sharing the joy of making music. I'm not yet accomplished enough to = play a > service and so, work every day out of Gleason, but my kids see me all = the > time at the piano, or at my synthesizer rig (with footboard, of course) = just > making music. For them, the highlight of the week is their piano = lesson. > Daddy plays the piano, so for them, it is special to play the piano. = Even > our barely walking one year old can just reach up and slap at the keys = on > the piano with a big grin on her face. Even better is the little = "choir" > that forms whenever I play the piano in our living room. I can be = playing a > Bach Two Part Invention, and all three of the older ones will be = "singing" > with full voice words that they're just making up (of course, all are > singing something different.) You can't barely hear yourself think, = play or > anything else, but everyone is having a blast. Do you think that = they'll > grow up and enjoy music, whether they ever appear on the concert stage = or > not? > > Believe it or not, little kids don't need a flashy Vierne piece or the = Widor > Toccata to be impressed. They are interested in fun. When they can = explore > the instrument, laughing about the sound of the pipes, or hearing a = familiar > tune played with a ridiculous registration, or letting them pull and = retire > stops as you play gets a great reaction. It's not at all uncommon for = me to > have an "improvised accompanyment" down in the bass, or up in the high = end > of the keyboard as I play from one of the little ones sitting next to me = on > the bench. To me music is fun, I want it fun for my children. There = are > times we work at music, and times that we just play, mistakes be darned. > > If you want to capture the attention of children, you have to have fun = with > them before they hit junior high and are too cool for their own good. = Give > the Sunday School teachers a break some Sunday and have an organ-party = with > the little kids. Don't hold a recital; let them explore the instrument. > You'll find that a three or four year old is transported to heaven = walking > around on a pedalboard with a 16' reed drawn. Loud caucophony? You = bet, > but the smiles are worth it. You'll be mobbed at the console for weeks > afterwards if everyone has had fun. > > I think that this is something that happens when everyone simply does = what > they can in their own backyard. Face it, most people have never even = heard > a pipe organ, much less one played properly. I didn't even know what an > organ was supposed to sound like until a Music Appreciation class I took = as > a freshman in college! (I grew up in church, too! Growing up, I was = often > there 4-5 nights a week!). Ever since, I've had great respect for the > instrument, and am now learing to play it myself. MTV will never have a > "Pipe Organ Party" with sensual dancers bopping around... this isn't a = mass > media solution where having the AGO spend big bucks is going to help. = It's > just touching the people immediately around us, and letting them explore = the > instrument in a totally non-threatening environment. > > My $.02, > > Nathanael > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1864 - 03/07/01 From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:54:03 EST     --part1_76.8600e04.27d7ddcb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Thank you Jonathan Orwig for your very insightful comments. It's amazing what I have learned since I've joined up with Pipechat. Thanks also to my =   new friend & neighbor Ron Severin for his comments not to mention his wonderful personal E-Mails to me along with his wonderful invitation to = play the magnificent organ in his house. I think we have the beginning of something truly special here and I hope to keep it up! And to think it = all started with a little piece on pedaling. God works in mysterious ways. = By the way, has anybody looked into the Association of Young Organists as a = way of working with the youth of the world? Maybe somebody from that organization has some insights that would help. Or do they confine their activities to the Pittsburgh/East Coast area only?   Play on fellow pedaliers and best to all of you!   Dennis Russell   --part1_76.8600e04.27d7ddcb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thank you Jonathan = Orwig for your very insightful comments. &nbsp;It's amazing <BR>what I have learned since I've joined up with Pipechat. &nbsp;Thanks = also to my <BR>new friend &amp; neighbor Ron Severin for his comments not to mention = his <BR>wonderful personal E-Mails to me along with his wonderful invitation = to play <BR>the magnificent organ in his house. &nbsp;I think we have the = beginning of <BR>something truly special here and I hope to keep it up! &nbsp;And to = think it all <BR>started with a little piece on pedaling. &nbsp;God works in mysterious = ways. &nbsp;By <BR>the way, has anybody looked into the Association of Young Organists as = a way <BR>of working with the youth of the world? &nbsp;Maybe somebody from that =   <BR>organization has some insights that would help. &nbsp;Or do they = confine their <BR>activities to the Pittsburgh/East Coast area only? &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Play on fellow pedaliers and best to all of you! &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Dennis Russell &nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_76.8600e04.27d7ddcb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Medinah Temple Austin to go to storage (cross posted) From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:10:22 -0600   After months of speculation and a total information void an article in todays Chicago Suntimes reveals that there is still no new home for the 92 =   rank 1915 Austin concert organ. The organ must be removed before = renovation of the Temple building to retail space for Bloomingdale's. The developer and city have decided to take action to save the organ, and store it, with =   city workers from the transportation department removing the organ under the supervision of 5 employees of the Austin Organ Company. The full article can be downloaded from the Suntimes site at: <http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/pipe07.html>   jch      
(back) Subject: Palm Beach, Fla. Visit From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:24:13 EST   hey All, Westminster Symphonic Choir is singing the Elgar "Dream of = Gerontius" this week with Sir Colin Davis and the NY Phil., and while they're singing =   I'll be going to Florida! Next week is our Spring Break, so a friend and I =   are leaving to hit my grandmother's condo on Singer Island in Palm Beach. I'll be in Florida from Monday the 12th until Friday the 16th. I was = curious if there were any churches in that area I should checkout. I know about = the big new Austin and was curious if any knew Mr. Pyscher's email address to = get into the church. Any leads or suggestions would be most helpful!   -Pete Isherwood  
(back) Subject: kids and organs From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:31:29 -0600   HI group, I can see a thread developing here about kids and the organ. Besides teaching school I also give private piano and organ lessons. Last night one of my piano students who is in the fifth grade had a piece that she was playing entitled: "A Prayer." What better place to play this on but the organ? Off we went to church and she was able to play it on our little 1946 5 rank Wicks. No pedals but she had the opportunity to play the organ and hear the different stops, etc. Maybe the seed has been planted to want to hear the organ more and maybe learn to play it when her skills are up to where they should be. Just a thought. Gary    
(back) Subject: Re: kids and organs From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:26:35 -0800 (PST)   That was a great thing you did, Gary! JW --- Gary Black <gblack@ocslink.com> wrote: > HI group, I can see a thread developing here about > kids and the > organ. Besides teaching school I also give private > piano and organ > lessons. Last night one of my piano students who is > in the fifth grade > had a piece that she was playing entitled: "A > Prayer." > What better place to play this on but the organ? > Off we went to > church and she was able to play it on our little > 1946 5 rank Wicks. > No pedals but she had the opportunity to play the > organ and hear the > different stops, etc. Maybe the seed has been > planted to want to hear > the organ more and maybe learn to play it when her > skills are up to > where they should be. Just a thought. Gary > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Kids & the Organ From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:29:53 -0800 (PST)   BRAVO, BRAVO!!! --- Nathanael & Laura Iversen <mediaart@optonline.net> wrote: > In my experience, my four children are interested in > what I'm interested in. > Ever since I leaned over to my then 2 year old > daughter during a rousing > recession piece played with pedal reeds and a > wonderful trompette en chamade > and said, "Do you hear the beefy pedals?" she has > always leaned over to me > in excitement when the organ is going and says, > "Beefy pedals, Daddy, Beefy > pedals!!" She's five, and the three and two year > olds are all the same. We > all went to an organ recital played by my teacher > (Noel Werner), and the > kids had a blast. The two year old sat in my lap > and looked up several > times to whisper with wide eyes, "BEEFY PEDALS, > Daddy!". > > I've taken them up to the console of the organ (a > beautiful 50 some rank > instrument, fully antiphonally divided, etc.) where > I take my lessons, and > they were duly impressed with all the keys, buttons, > drawknobs, etc. > > Ultimately, attracting people to the organ isn't > about some fancy program or > a goofy interactive website with wacky icons for > kids. It's just about > sharing the joy of making music. I'm not yet > accomplished enough to play a > service and so, work every day out of Gleason, but > my kids see me all the > time at the piano, or at my synthesizer rig (with > footboard, of course) just > making music. For them, the highlight of the week > is their piano lesson. > Daddy plays the piano, so for them, it is special to > play the piano. Even > our barely walking one year old can just reach up > and slap at the keys on > the piano with a big grin on her face. Even better > is the little "choir" > that forms whenever I play the piano in our living > room. I can be playing a > Bach Two Part Invention, and all three of the older > ones will be "singing" > with full voice words that they're just making up > (of course, all are > singing something different.) You can't barely hear > yourself think, play or > anything else, but everyone is having a blast. Do > you think that they'll > grow up and enjoy music, whether they ever appear on > the concert stage or > not? > > Believe it or not, little kids don't need a flashy > Vierne piece or the Widor > Toccata to be impressed. They are interested in > fun. When they can explore > the instrument, laughing about the sound of the > pipes, or hearing a familiar > tune played with a ridiculous registration, or > letting them pull and retire > stops as you play gets a great reaction. It's not > at all uncommon for me to > have an "improvised accompanyment" down in the bass, > or up in the high end > of the keyboard as I play from one of the little > ones sitting next to me on > the bench. To me music is fun, I want it fun for my > children. There are > times we work at music, and times that we just play, > mistakes be darned. > > If you want to capture the attention of children, > you have to have fun with > them before they hit junior high and are too cool > for their own good. Give > the Sunday School teachers a break some Sunday and > have an organ-party with > the little kids. Don't hold a recital; let them > explore the instrument. > You'll find that a three or four year old is > transported to heaven walking > around on a pedalboard with a 16' reed drawn. Loud > caucophony? You bet, > but the smiles are worth it. You'll be mobbed at the > console for weeks > afterwards if everyone has had fun. > > I think that this is something that happens when > everyone simply does what > they can in their own backyard. Face it, most > people have never even heard > a pipe organ, much less one played properly. I > didn't even know what an > organ was supposed to sound like until a Music > Appreciation class I took as > a freshman in college! (I grew up in church, too! > Growing up, I was often > there 4-5 nights a week!). Ever since, I've had > great respect for the > instrument, and am now learing to play it myself. > MTV will never have a > "Pipe Organ Party" with sensual dancers bopping > around... this isn't a mass > media solution where having the AGO spend big bucks > is going to help. It's > just touching the people immediately around us, and > letting them explore the > instrument in a totally non-threatening environment. > > My $.02, > > Nathanael > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Convention in SoCal? From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:32:01 -0800 (PST)   The organ with the "super scoop of fries" facade will be tuned with the new temperament Hamburger II. --- Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> wrote: > At 03:30 PM 3/6/2001 -0500, BuuD-by-the-Beach wrote: > > > Perhaps after Disney Hall<snip> > > Hooo boy. What an embarrassment THAT thing's gonna > be! Are you SURE you'd > want to expose conventioners to that "super scoop of > fries" fa=E7ade designed > by an architect known to be an acoustical failure, > on a organ built by a > confirmed "orgelbunghole" partisan? > > dB > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:33:13 -0800 (PST)   DON'T GO THERE!   --- DRAWKNOB@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/6/01 10:43:39 AM Central > Standard Time, > conwayb@sympatico.ca writes: > > << So I got to be the "Blower Boy" rather too often! > >> > > OH? Do Tell...... > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/