PipeChat Digest #1872 - Thursday, March 8, 2001
 
Re: is hate speech protected speech? should it be?
  by "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com>
Trinity Broadcasting Network
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1870 - 03/08/01
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
one more, and I'm done
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
What Else? Felix & Phelps - an idea
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: What Else? Felix & Phelps - an idea
  by "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net>
Re: hand pumping
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: console standards
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: console standards
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: is hate speech protected speech? How 'bout Diane Bish mutilating 	Mul
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: console standards
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: God Hates Nobody
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Cleveland performance
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: What Else? Felix & Phelps - an idea
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: hand pumping
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: is hate speech protected speech? should it be? From: "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:58:18 -0800   * quilisma@socal.rr.com (quilisma@socal.rr.com) wrote: > The ACLU fell on the same sword when they found themselves (rightly, I > believe) defending the right of neo-nazis to march in a community that > was heavily populated with Jews AND Holocaust survivors. As a result, > many Jewish ACLU members cancelled their membership.   On a lighter note, it made the basis of a hilarious story on The Onion: "ACLU Defends Nazis' Right To Burn Down ACLU Headquarters:" http://www.theonion.com/onion3211/acludefends.html   Joshua   -- Joshua Haberman <joshua@haberman.com>, University of Puget Sound "Delaying decisions" is too often a euphemism for "avoiding thinking." -Bjarne Stroustrup  
(back) Subject: Trinity Broadcasting Network From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:04:57 -0800   Hell, TBN could solve California's energy crisis single-handedly by just TURNING OFF THEIR LIGHTS (grin) ... that place casts a radioactive glow for MILES (they're just down the freeway from me in beautiful Orange County CA).   At Christmas-time, they have "Happy Birthday, Jesus" flashing in twinkle-lights on top of the place. I'm too busy at Easter-time to drive by, so I don't know if they do the same thing with "He Is Risen."   If you wanna know what happens when you cross Italian Renaissance architecture with Steamboat Gothic, take a look at the place ... the Borgia popes would have felt RIGHT at home (grin) ... hmm ... come to think of it, there isn't a whole lot of DIFFERENCE between the Borgia popes and the money-grubbing televangelists on TBN (grin), except maybe for the bad hair (the popes had better hair-dressers) (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1870 - 03/08/01 From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:02:57 EST     --part1_d1.360dbf8.27d985c1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   It's good to see all of us banding together for Felix' sake. I'm only = sorry we can't be there to give him hands on support. God does not hate, he = only knows to love. We, as organists, give him praise through our music with which we bare our soul for all to see and hear. This is a by-product of = the "Religious Right" and these crazed right wingers. I'm not against conservatives, I don't agree with their positions but I can do that in a civilized manner. These people aren't conservative. They are Facist = Zealots and unfortunately like Mussolini's hordes and Hitler's henchman they have = to be exposed as the bullies and cowards that they are. Let's all band = together and say all the prayers we can for Felix Hell, but also Phelps crowd so = that they may be shown to change their ways. In parting, let me quote the = lyrics of a song that we used to sing in church (and that I used to play) "God = is Love..and he who abides in love...abides in God...and God in him."   Dennis Russell   --part1_d1.360dbf8.27d985c1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's good to see all of = us banding together for Felix' sake. &nbsp;I'm only sorry <BR>we can't be there to give him hands on support. &nbsp;God does not = hate, he only <BR>knows to love. &nbsp;We, as organists, give him praise through our = music with <BR>which we bare our soul for all to see and hear. &nbsp;This is a = by-product of the <BR>"Religious Right" &nbsp;and these crazed right wingers. &nbsp;I'm not = against <BR>conservatives, I don't agree with their positions but I can do that in = a <BR>civilized manner. &nbsp;These people aren't conservative. &nbsp;They = are Facist Zealots <BR>and unfortunately like Mussolini's hordes and Hitler's henchman they = have to <BR>be exposed as the bullies and cowards that they are. &nbsp;Let's all = band together <BR>and say all the prayers we can for Felix Hell, but also Phelps crowd = so that <BR>they may be shown to change their ways. &nbsp;In parting, let me quote = the lyrics <BR>of a song that we used to sing in church (and that I used to play) = &nbsp;"God is <BR>Love..and he who abides in love...abides in God...and God in him." = &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Dennis Russell &nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d1.360dbf8.27d985c1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: one more, and I'm done From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:08:47 -0800   Actually, Phelps is just using Felix Hell as an excuse ... his REAL target is the "liberal, godless" Episcopal church at large ... he REGULARLY pickets Episcopal churches all over the country at the drop of a hat, for ANYTHING he perceives as pro-gay.   Cheers,   Bud, who's in the throes of typesetting the Palm Sunday Rite, and REALLY has better things to do with his time (grin)    
(back) Subject: What Else? Felix & Phelps - an idea From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:37:34 EST     --part1_42.11bce6f9.27d98dde_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Lists,   I am not altogether sure that this topic about the planned picket in = Topeka has not generated more mail, and thoughtful mail at that, than just about = any other event on these lists in recent memory.   Rich Blacklock, on PipOrg-L, came up with what I think is a brilliant = idea, designed for coping with any disturbance that might actually happen inside =   the cathedral. In the event of noise, Felix would stop playing, hit full organ, play an introduction, and all would sing a rousing verse or two of = The Star Spangled Banner. That will both embarrass and drown out anyone, but = will also give security a chance to gently remove the protesters. Apparently = these people know better than to actually come inside at any of the events they picket.   For outside, I have an idea I to which I would love to hear reactions. = Felix has great poise and aplomb. He is one of a small number of young men who = will walk right up to you, look you in the eye, smile, and hold out his hand in =   greeting. I think this would be a wonderful way to disarm "The Rev." Fred Phelps! Felix could walk out the west door toward the apparently small and =   pitiful band of pickets, approach directly the man who will be pointed out = to him as Phelps, and hold out his hand in greeting. There are a number of things that could be said at this point:   Sorry to put you to the trouble of coming out like this at night. I've = read so much about your plan to visit this church tonight, I thought I ought to =   meet you.   Thanks for sending your flyer to my church. They really enjoyed it!   Would you like to come in and hear the concert? This is a lovely building, = a beautiful organ, and I know you will enjoy the music.   Would you like to buy one of my CDs?   Have you ever been to Germany. I hope you will come and visit sometime.   Even if Felix simply walked out front, approached Phelps, and said = something like "Hi, I'm Felix. I just wanted to come out and meet you. I have to go. = I have to start playing in a few moments."   Please add your ideas here!   I think the press, long since tired of Phelps, needs to be tipped off to = come and see him upstaged, focussing their lenses not on Phelps but on Felix = and his calm and direct greeting. If they are invited in to cover the first moments of the recital, that will be great publicity for what it is we do, =   and for the cathedral, the organ, and if there is a good crowd, as I = suspect there will be, the presence of lots of interested listeners will be noted = as well. Any thoughts,   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler   --part1_42.11bce6f9.27d98dde_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Dear Lists, <BR> <BR>I am not altogether sure that this topic about the planned picket in = Topeka <BR>has not generated more mail, and thoughtful mail at that, than just = about any <BR>other event on these lists in recent memory. <BR> <BR>Rich Blacklock, on PipOrg-L, came up with what I think is a brilliant = idea, <BR>designed for coping with any disturbance that might actually happen = inside <BR>the cathedral. In the event of noise, Felix would stop playing, hit = full <BR>organ, play an introduction, and all would sing a rousing verse or two = of The <BR>Star Spangled Banner. That will both embarrass and drown out anyone, = but will <BR>also give security a chance to gently remove the protesters. = Apparently these <BR>people know better than to actually come inside at any of the events = they <BR>picket. <BR> <BR>For outside, I have an idea I to which I would love to hear reactions. = Felix <BR>has great poise and aplomb. He is one of a small number of young men = who will <BR>walk right up to you, look you in the eye, smile, and hold out his = hand in <BR>greeting. I think this would be a wonderful way to disarm "The Rev." = Fred <BR>Phelps! Felix could walk out the west door toward the apparently small and <BR>pitiful band of pickets, approach directly the man who will be pointed = out to <BR>him as Phelps, and hold out his hand in greeting. There are a number = of <BR>things that could be said at this point: <BR> <BR>Sorry to put you to the trouble of coming out like this at night. I've = read <BR>so much about your plan to visit this church tonight, I thought I = ought to <BR>meet you. <BR> <BR>Thanks for sending your flyer to my church. They really enjoyed it! <BR> <BR>Would you like to come in and hear the concert? This is a lovely = building, a <BR>beautiful organ, and I know you will enjoy the music. <BR> <BR>Would you like to buy one of my CDs? <BR> <BR>Have you ever been to Germany. I hope you will come and visit = sometime. <BR> <BR>Even if Felix simply walked out front, approached Phelps, and said = something <BR>like "Hi, I'm Felix. I just wanted to come out and meet you. I have to = go. I <BR>have to start playing in a few moments." <BR> <BR>Please add your ideas here! <BR> <BR>I think the press, long since tired of Phelps, needs to be tipped off = to come <BR>and see him upstaged, focussing their lenses not on Phelps but on = Felix and <BR>his calm and direct greeting. If they are invited in to cover the = first <BR>moments of the recital, that will be great publicity for what it is we = do, <BR>and for the cathedral, the organ, and if there is a good crowd, as I = suspect <BR>there will be, the presence of lots of interested listeners will be = noted as <BR>well. Any thoughts, <BR> <BR>Cheers, <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler &nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_42.11bce6f9.27d98dde_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: What Else? Felix & Phelps - an idea From: "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:47:35 -0500     --------------82E244A6A4A7F3D306B71CD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Amen and amen. I, for one, am sick of right wing reactionaries and assorted cranks determining our country's social agenda.   Ben Baldus   ManderUSA@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Lists, > > I am not altogether sure that this topic about the planned picket in > Topeka > has not generated more mail, and thoughtful mail at that, than just > about any > other event on these lists in recent memory. > > Rich Blacklock, on PipOrg-L, came up with what I think is a brilliant > idea, > designed for coping with any disturbance that might actually happen > inside > the cathedral. In the event of noise, Felix would stop playing, hit > full > organ, play an introduction, and all would sing a rousing verse or two > of The > Star Spangled Banner. That will both embarrass and drown out anyone, > but will > also give security a chance to gently remove the protesters. > Apparently these > people know better than to actually come inside at any of the events > they > picket. > > For outside, I have an idea I to which I would love to hear reactions. > Felix > has great poise and aplomb. He is one of a small number of young men > who will > walk right up to you, look you in the eye, smile, and hold out his > hand in > greeting. I think this would be a wonderful way to disarm "The Rev." > Fred > Phelps! Felix could walk out the west door toward the apparently small > and > pitiful band of pickets, approach directly the man who will be pointed > out to > him as Phelps, and hold out his hand in greeting. There are a number > of > things that could be said at this point: > > Sorry to put you to the trouble of coming out like this at night. I've > read > so much about your plan to visit this church tonight, I thought I > ought to > meet you. > > Thanks for sending your flyer to my church. They really enjoyed it! > > Would you like to come in and hear the concert? This is a lovely > building, a > beautiful organ, and I know you will enjoy the music. > > Would you like to buy one of my CDs? > > Have you ever been to Germany. I hope you will come and visit > sometime. > > Even if Felix simply walked out front, approached Phelps, and said > something > like "Hi, I'm Felix. I just wanted to come out and meet you. I have to > go. I > have to start playing in a few moments." > > Please add your ideas here! > > I think the press, long since tired of Phelps, needs to be tipped off > to come > and see him upstaged, focussing their lenses not on Phelps but on > Felix and > his calm and direct greeting. If they are invited in to cover the > first > moments of the recital, that will be great publicity for what it is we > do, > and for the cathedral, the organ, and if there is a good crowd, as I > suspect > there will be, the presence of lots of interested listeners will be > noted as > well. Any thoughts, > > Cheers, > > Malcolm Wechsler   --------------82E244A6A4A7F3D306B71CD2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> Amen and amen.&nbsp; I, for one, am sick of right wing reactionaries and assorted cranks determining our country's social agenda. <p>Ben Baldus <p>ManderUSA@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Dear Lists,</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>I am not altogether sure that this topic about the planned picket in Topeka</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>has not generated more = mail, and thoughtful mail at that, than just about any</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>other event on these = lists in recent memory.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Rich Blacklock, on = PipOrg-L, came up with what I think is a brilliant idea,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>designed for coping with any disturbance that might actually happen inside</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>the cathedral. In the = event of noise, Felix would stop playing, hit full</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>organ, play an = introduction, and all would sing a rousing verse or two of The</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Star Spangled Banner. = That will both embarrass and drown out anyone, but will</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>also give security a = chance to gently remove the protesters. Apparently these</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>people know better than to actually come inside at any of the events they</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>picket.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>For outside, I have an = idea I to which I would love to hear reactions. Felix</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>has great poise and = aplomb. He is one of a small number of young men who will</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>walk right up to you, = look you in the eye, smile, and hold out his hand in</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>greeting. I think this = would be a wonderful way to disarm "The Rev." Fred</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Phelps! Felix could = walk out the west door toward the apparently small and</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>pitiful band of = pickets, approach directly the man who will be pointed out to</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>him as Phelps, and hold out his hand in greeting. There are a number of</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>things that could be = said at this point:</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Sorry to put you to the = trouble of coming out like this at night. I've read</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>so much about your plan to visit this church tonight, I thought I ought to</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>meet you.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Thanks for sending your = flyer to my church. They really enjoyed it!</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Would you like to come = in and hear the concert? This is a lovely building, a</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>beautiful organ, and I = know you will enjoy the music.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Would you like to buy = one of my CDs?</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Have you ever been to = Germany. I hope you will come and visit sometime.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Even if Felix simply = walked out front, approached Phelps, and said something</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>like "Hi, I'm Felix. I = just wanted to come out and meet you. I have to go. I</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>have to start playing = in a few moments."</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Please add your ideas = here!</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>I think the press, long = since tired of Phelps, needs to be tipped off to come</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>and see him upstaged, = focussing their lenses not on Phelps but on Felix and</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>his calm and direct = greeting. If they are invited in to cover the first</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>moments of the recital, that will be great publicity for what it is we do,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>and for the cathedral, = the organ, and if there is a good crowd, as I suspect</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>there will be, the presence of lots of interested listeners will be noted as</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>well. Any = thoughts,</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Cheers,</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Malcolm = Wechsler</font></font></blockquote>   </body> </html>   --------------82E244A6A4A7F3D306B71CD2--    
(back) Subject: Re: hand pumping From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:04:12 EST   In a message dated 3/8/01 9:42:56 AM EST, support@opensystemsorgans.com writes:   > > But why is hand pumping better? Whatever's wrong with electric blowers =   must > be pretty simple. Is it a problem with regulation? There's got to be = an > easy fix. > > Dick Meckstroth > Advocates of hand (and foot) pumping to raise the wind for organs claim = that there are turbulence factors generated by the highspeed turbine blades of modern blowers. the wind raised by hand/foot pumping is more gentle. I an not (myself) = sure that this is true, but have heard numerous programs locally where the wind =   was manually raised by a calcant. when raising is not done correctly, it shows...   Rick M Staunton VA  
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:08:02 -0600   I've ridden in Bruce's car - the horses are still pretty strong, but kind = of past their prime. In the back seat of the carriage are huge stacks of = sheet music and beagle hair. No kidding.   Glenda Sutton   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>   > You haven't seen Bruce's car.... :-) > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Elms [mailto:elmsr@albanyis.com.au] > > Bruce, who is that pushing your car? Why don't you start the engine?        
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:34:50 -0500       Glenda wrote: > > I've ridden in Bruce's car - the horses are still pretty strong, but = kind of > past their prime. In the back seat of the carriage are huge stacks of = sheet > music and beagle hair. No kidding. >   You didn't mention the LoJack... It's a very effective tracker.   Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: is hate speech protected speech? How 'bout Diane Bish mutilating Mul=E9t? From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:41:15 +0800   Bob what about sticking to organs and leaving religion alone. You just can't resist the odd gibe in most of your posts and it offends. Talk about organs, not odd balls in the Christian Church. All organizations have them, plenty in the USA. Bob Elms.   Bob Scarborough wrote: >=20 > At 02:47 PM 3/8/2001 -0800, you wrote: > If there are Christians out there who believe THAT is appropriate, then= I > TRULY fear for my life, and the lives of my friends. <snip> >=20 > They're out there...don't kid yourself. I've got some "fundie" baptist= s > (replete with ankle length dresses and "fishy" things on the cars) acro= ss > the street that are just SPOILING for a confrontation, but me, being > smarter, never give them the opportunity, and thus, deprive them of > satisfaction. Besides, they're too busy trying to force the school > district to teach that Darwin was an atheist and was wrong. >=20 > IN OTHER NEWS...this just in. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I also note that the "fundie"-controlled TBN has done their level best = to > shove Diane's shows way into the background of their schedule. I have = to > tape her in the middle of the night on Friday mornings just to see her!= A > call to TBN told the story ... "Most of our "LOYAL" viewers don't like > her." Gee ... I wonder why??? Could it have something to do with the > actions of Oberf=FChrer Kennedy (winner of this year's "Trent Lott Look= alike > Contest") down at "Corralled Grinch"? I hung up on them when they star= ted > hitting on me for money. >=20 > DeserTBoB >=20 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: console standards From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:44:37 +0800   A horseless carriage? Wow! Not dogless however? Bob.   Glenda wrote: > > I've ridden in Bruce's car - the horses are still pretty strong, but = kind of > past their prime. In the back seat of the carriage are huge stacks of = sheet > music and beagle hair. No kidding. > > Glen  
(back) Subject: Re: God Hates Nobody From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:26:20 -0800 (PST)     --- DanielW Hopkins <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > God does not hate anybody > Please read John 3:16 > that says it all > I dont see hate in that verse   Thank YOU!!! I am so sick of this thread! This thread ought to be ended, = and something worth discussing like what are we all doing for Holy Week, or = Tibias vs. Gedackts, anything else but this.......     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Cleveland performance From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:52:46 EST   The performance this evening of Franz Schmidt's "Das Buch mit sieben = Siegeln" at Cleveland's Severance Hall, conducted by Franz Welser-Mo"st, was = nothing short of spectacular.   The capacity audience --- most of whom were hearing this work for the = first time --- was held spellbound.   I will have more to report on this performance later; but right now I have = to catch a train back to New York City.   Arthur LaMirande  
(back) Subject: Re: What Else? Felix & Phelps - an idea From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:49:35 -0800   At 08:47 PM 3/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I, for one, am sick of right wing reactionaries and assorted cranks<snip>   Don't forget various low-lying Shrubs!   hehehehhahahahaha   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: hand pumping From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:54:06 -0800   At 09:04 PM 3/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Advocates of hand (and foot) pumping to raise the wind for organs claim = that >there are turbulence factors generated by the highspeed turbine blades of >modern blowers.<snip>   Absolute balderdash, as is their oft-clucked saw that you can "articulate" =   tracker organs.   >the wind raised by hand/foot pumping is more gentle.<snip>   Gentle, Yentl. Wind's wind. If it is turbulent by the time it reaches = the pipe's foot, there something terribly wrong, and it ain't in the axial fan =   supplying it, either!   DeserTBoB