PipeChat Digest #1888 - Wednesday, March 14, 2001
 
Re: (no subject)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1886 - 03/14/01
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: (no subject)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: review of review of review
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
C-3 and Allen Renaissance 350??
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: review of review of review
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: (no subject)
  by "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net>
memorial and other Hammonds
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Need general help re: wedding/28 prayerbook church
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:18:21 -0800   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_4666569= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   At 02:45 PM 3/14/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Perhaps one of you guys can help me... > I have recently took over a position on the organ at a large church >(around 2,500). I just about died when I saw this "organ." I walked = into >the huge church (which seats 3,750 people) and was taken in by the 50 = foot >ceilings in the foyer, the crystal chandeliers<snip>   Sounds like a modern-day "God factory", =3DE0 la Hagee and others.   >here sits a little, old, dusty, Hammond C-3, with a single Leslie=3D20 >speaker. About half of the finish was scraped off this little organ = and=3D20 >the speaker. It wasn't even plugged in. I was pretty let down. It = was=3D =3D20 >NOTHING like I expected. >So here is my question... Is it possible to get a good, vibrant sound = out >of this thing, that will at all enhance this church's dynamic music=3D program, >that doesn't sound too "hammondy"? If so, does anyone know the proper >registrations that would make traditional hymn sound triumphant, and=3D20 >grand?<snip>   It will ALWAYS sound like a Hammond, no matter what. Sure, there are = some=3D =3D20 drawbar registrations that are better than others, but in a barn big = enough=3D =3D20 to seat 3.750, this little 40 watt Leslie (if it is one...it might even = be=3D =3D20 less, if an earlier model) will be completely "lost in space".   >The church has stated that it would not replace the organ. It has >sentimental value because it has survived a massive tornado that = destroyed >the whole church, and killed a few ladies- including the organist. It = even >survived a fire, which also destroyed the entire church, but not the=3D20 >organ.<snip>   Paraphrasing from the Hammond service manual, it is rare to find that = these=3D =3D20 instruments cannot be made serviceable, except due to fire or = explosion,=3D20 and that's the truth! You just can't kill a Hammond; they keep going = and=3D20 going and going and going...as the tornado and fire proved!   However, you're in a really bad spot here. First, I take it from your = post=3D =3D20 that you're totally unfamiliar with the Hammond organ, which is fast=3D20 becoming a lost art in itself among church players, except for gospel = and=3D20 Pentecostal outfits, which thrive on them. It takes a good ear and=3D20 knowledge of the harmonic content of organ stops to even begin to try = to=3D20 emulate organ tone with a Hammond, and even then, it's less than=3D20 successful, since many harmonics in both the unison and subunison = series=3D20 are just plain missing, let alone the others being out of tune. With=3D20 practice and multiple tone sources (which you don't have) you can fool = some=3D =3D20 of the the people some of the time, but that's about it.   The last informative book on the subject of drawbar was pubished in = the=3D20 waning days of the tonewheel organ, in 1970: "Dictionary of Hammond = Organ=3D =3D20 Stops", by Stevens Irwin. Many good suggestions are within, and they = help=3D =3D20 a great deal. Note that the factory "presets" are usually unacceptable = for=3D =3D20 any purpose, and are best avoided. They can, however, be changed via = the=3D20 register panel in the back of the organ, much the same way old = non-setter=3D20 combination actions were changed. All the editions of the Irwin book = are=3D20 fairly plentiful, and can be seen on eBay (for usually much inflated=3D20 prices), or through used book sellers on-line.   I'd be willing to bet this old girl needs a proper oiling (use only = the=3D20 proper oil; use of others will cause problems), and some service. = Still,=3D20 in top shape, the idea of accompanying hymns on a C-3/122 in a barn = that=3D20 size is almost incomprehensible.   >Any input would be appreciated.<snip>   Have you considered just refusing the job? This place sounds spooky = to=3D20 begin with! Their refusal to consider replacing a C-3 (might be an = RT-3,=3D20 if it has 32 AGO pedals) speaks volumes about their "music" program, = as=3D20 does the lily white Kawai, a boardy sounding thing if their ever was one.   DeserTBoB --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_4666569= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html> At 02:45 PM 3/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3D3Dcite class=3D3Dcite cite><font face=3D3D"arial" = size=3D3D2>Perh=3D aps one of you guys can help me... <br> &nbsp;&nbsp; I have recently took over a position on the organ at a large church <br> (around 2,500).&nbsp; I just about died when I saw this &quot;organ.&quot;&nbsp; I walked into <br> the huge church (which seats 3,750 people) and was taken in by the 50 foot <br> ceilings in the foyer, the crystal chandeliers&lt;snip&gt;</font></blockquote><br> Sounds like a modern-day &quot;God factory&quot;, =3DE0 la Hagee and others.<br> <br> <blockquote type=3D3Dcite class=3D3Dcite cite><font face=3D3D"arial" = size=3D3D2>here=3D sits a little, old, dusty, Hammond C-3, with a single Leslie speaker.&nbsp; About half of the finish was scraped off this little organ and the speaker.&nbsp; It wasn't even plugged in.&nbsp; I was pretty let down.&nbsp;&nbsp; It was NOTHING like I expected.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br> So here is my question...&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it possible to get a good, vibrant sound out <br> of this thing, that will at all enhance this church's dynamic music program, <br> that doesn't sound too &quot;hammondy&quot;?&nbsp; If so, does anyone know the proper <br> registrations that would make traditional hymn sound triumphant, and grand?&lt;snip&gt;</font></blockquote><br> It will ALWAYS sound like a Hammond, no matter what.&nbsp; Sure, there are some drawbar registrations that are better than others, but in a barn big enough to seat 3.750, this little 40 watt Leslie (if it is one...it might even be less, if an earlier model) will be completely &quot;lost in space&quot;.<br> <br> <blockquote type=3D3Dcite class=3D3Dcite cite><font face=3D3D"arial" = size=3D3D2>The church has stated that it would not replace the organ.&nbsp; It has=3D20 <br> sentimental value because it has survived a massive tornado that destroyed <br> the whole church, and killed a few ladies- including the organist.&nbsp; It even <br> survived a fire, which also destroyed the entire church, but not the organ.&lt;snip&gt;</font></blockquote><br> Paraphrasing from the Hammond service manual, it is rare to find that these instruments cannot be made serviceable, except due to fire or explosion, and that's the truth!&nbsp; You just can't kill a Hammond; they keep going and going and going and going...as the tornado and fire proved!<br> <br> However, you're in a really bad spot here.&nbsp; First, I take it from your post that you're totally unfamiliar with the Hammond organ, which is fast becoming a lost art in itself among church players, except for gospel and Pentecostal outfits, which thrive on them.&nbsp; It takes a good ear and knowledge of the harmonic content of organ stops to even begin to try to emulate organ tone with a Hammond, and even then, it's less than successful, since many harmonics in both the unison and subunison series are just plain missing, let alone the others being out of tune.&nbsp; With practice and multiple tone sources (which you don't have) you can fool some of the the people some of the time, but that's about it.<br> <br> The last informative book on the subject of drawbar was pubished in the waning days of the tonewheel organ, in 1970:&nbsp; &quot;Dictionary of Hammond Organ Stops&quot;, by Stevens Irwin.&nbsp; Many good suggestions are within, and they help a great deal.&nbsp; Note that the factory &quot;presets&quot; are usually unacceptable for any purpose, and are best avoided.&nbsp; They can, however, be changed via the register panel in the back of the organ, much the same way old non-setter combination actions were changed.&nbsp; All the editions of the Irwin book are fairly plentiful, and can be seen on eBay (for usually much inflated prices), or through used book sellers on-line.<br> <br> I'd be willing to bet this old girl needs a proper oiling (use only the proper oil; use of others will cause problems), and some service.&nbsp; Still, in top shape, the idea of accompanying hymns on a C-3/122 in a barn that size is almost incomprehensible.<br> <br> <blockquote type=3D3Dcite class=3D3Dcite cite><font face=3D3D"arial" = size=3D3D2>Any =3D input would be appreciated.&lt;snip&gt;</font><font face=3D3D"arial"></blockquote><br> </font>Have you considered just refusing the job?&nbsp; This place sounds spooky to begin with!&nbsp; Their refusal to consider replacing a C-3 (might be an RT-3, if it has 32 AGO pedals) speaks volumes about their &quot;music&quot; program, as does the lily white Kawai, a boardy sounding thing if their ever was one.<br> <br> DeserTBoB</html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_4666569= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1886 - 03/14/01 From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:42:50 EST     --part1_59.81ec751.27e14dea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Many thanx to Arthur LaMirande for his Ben Van Oosten review. Glad he = played Widor's 6th (rather than the 5th which to be frankly honest I'm sick of, wonderful piece that it is.) I have a recording of him in a proper = setting playing that piece which Michael Barone has also played on "Pipedreams" = and it just blows me away. That's not just a great concert piece that's true aerobics for any organist. Wished I could have heard it, dead acoustics = and all. That's what I call organ playing!!!!!!!!!!!!   Dennis Russell   --part1_59.81ec751.27e14dea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Many thanx to Arthur = LaMirande for his Ben Van Oosten review. &nbsp;Glad he played <BR>Widor's 6th (rather than the 5th which to be frankly honest I'm sick = of, <BR>wonderful piece that it is.) &nbsp;I have a recording of him in a = proper setting <BR>playing that piece which Michael Barone has also played on = "Pipedreams" and <BR>it just blows me away. &nbsp;That's not just a great concert piece = that's true <BR>aerobics for any organist. &nbsp;Wished I could have heard it, dead = acoustics and <BR>all. &nbsp;That's what I call organ playing!!!!!!!!!!!! <BR> <BR>Dennis Russell</FONT></HTML>   --part1_59.81ec751.27e14dea_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:12:17 EST   Hi Josh:   Like the Amityville Horror, listen to the ghosts "GET OUT"! An unplugged Hammond C-3. WOAH! Hold on! Praise Band! No Jazz Experience? Organ a prized possession, a C-3, HELLO!   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: review of review of review From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:21:51 EST     --part1_81.8265866.27e1570f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am so sorry that Mr. Jonathan Hall --- I believe he currently resides somewhere in the hinterlands of Indiana --- felt that my review of Ben van =   Oosten's recital last night in New York was, in any way, a put-down.   It was intended to be an objective review. If everything I said was not = 100% laudatory, that should, I would think, simply demonstrate the scope of the =   objectivity.   I suggest that anyone reading Mr. Hall's critique of my critique go back = and read my critique. Before rushing to judgements.   Evidently, Mr. Hall is not acquainted with the nature of music criticism = in a city like New York. I suggest he read the reviews of the critics on the staff of The New York Times! But I'm afraid that, if he did so, he might = get apoplexy.   In fact, the music critics on The New York Times rarely attend --- let = alone review --- organ recitals at all. So I would think that Mr. Hall would appreciate the fact that I took the time and trouble to do so myself. = There was nothing to compel me to do so; and I most certainly did not get paid = for doing so. Perhaps, the next time, I should just not bother, given Mr. = Hall's livid reaction.   Since Mr. Hall admits that he was unable to attend the recital, I think = that he is, in fact, in no position to say anything about it at all, and would probably have been better advised to keep his mouth shut.   As for Mr. van Oosten and his unfamiliarity with the great Beckerath in Montreal (St. Joseph's Oratory): Mr. van Oosten said to me, personally = --- in a post-recital conversation --- that he had not been to Montreal, but = that he had heard of that organ, and was most eager to hear it and perhaps, someday, to perform on it. I intend, personally, to submit Mr. van = Oosten's name (and his New York program) to the titulaire of the Oratory, M. = Raymond Daveluy, and to urge Monsieur Daveluy to invite Mr. van Oosten to participate in a future summer organ concert series at the Oratory. = (Where, incidentally --- for the benefit of those of you who do not know me --- I performed myself in August, 1999. To a rave review the next day in the leading newspaper of Montreal, La Presse. Written, no less, by the purportedly meanest music critic in Canada, M. Claude Gingras!)   Mr. Hall probably does not remember me; but I took the trouble to attend a =   recital he gave a couple of years ago at St. Thomas Church in New York = City, on which occasion he played the Trois Danses of Jehan Alain. I know these =   pieces very well, but have never played them in public: they contain some fiendishly difficult passages. I seem to recall that, on that occasion, I posted a very laudatory review = of Mr. Hall's performance to that other organ website, Piprorg-l (to which I = no longer subscribe). Perhaps Mr. Hall has forgotten. Or perhaps I = shouldn't have bothered!   I also gave Mr. Hall a copy of a Franz Schmidt score on that occasion, if = I remember correctly. I'm still waiting for him to perform it.   Regards to all,   Arthur LaMirande   http://www.mp3.com/arthurlamirande   --part1_81.8265866.27e1570f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am so sorry that Mr. = Jonathan Hall --- I believe he currently resides <BR>somewhere in the hinterlands of Indiana --- felt that my review of Ben = van <BR>Oosten's recital last night in New York was, in any way, a put-down. <BR> <BR>It was intended to be an objective review. &nbsp;If everything I said = was not 100% <BR>laudatory, that should, I would think, simply demonstrate the scope of = the <BR>objectivity. <BR> <BR>I suggest that anyone reading Mr. Hall's critique of my critique go = back and <BR>read my critique. &nbsp;Before rushing to judgements. <BR> <BR>Evidently, Mr. Hall is not acquainted with the nature of music = criticism in a <BR>city like New York. &nbsp;I suggest he read the reviews of the critics on the <BR>staff of The New York Times! &nbsp;But I'm afraid that, if he did so, = he might get <BR>apoplexy. <BR> <BR>In fact, the music critics on The New York Times rarely attend --- let = alone <BR>review --- organ recitals at all. &nbsp;So I would think that Mr. Hall = would <BR>appreciate the fact that I took the time and trouble to do so myself. = &nbsp;There <BR>was nothing to compel me to do so; and I most certainly did not get = paid for <BR>doing so. &nbsp;Perhaps, the next time, I should just not bother, = given Mr. Hall's <BR>livid reaction. <BR> <BR>Since Mr. Hall admits that he was unable to attend the recital, I = think that <BR>he is, in fact, in no position to say anything about it at all, and = would <BR>probably have been better advised to keep his mouth shut. <BR> <BR>As for Mr. van Oosten and his unfamiliarity with the great Beckerath = in <BR>Montreal (St. Joseph's Oratory): &nbsp;Mr. van Oosten said to me, = personally --- <BR>in a post-recital conversation --- that he had not been to Montreal, = but that <BR>he had heard of that organ, and was most eager to hear it and perhaps, =   <BR>someday, to perform on it. &nbsp;I intend, personally, to submit Mr. = van Oosten's <BR>name (and his New York program) to the titulaire of the Oratory, M. = Raymond <BR>Daveluy, and to urge Monsieur Daveluy to invite Mr. van Oosten = &nbsp;to <BR>participate in a future summer organ concert series at the Oratory. = &nbsp;(Where, <BR>incidentally --- for the benefit of those of you who do not know me = --- I <BR>performed myself in August, 1999. &nbsp;To a rave review the next day = in the <BR>leading newspaper of Montreal, La Presse. Written, no less, by the <BR>purportedly meanest music critic in Canada, M. Claude Gingras!) <BR> <BR>Mr. Hall probably does not remember me; but I took the trouble to = attend a <BR>recital he gave a couple of years ago at St. Thomas Church in New York = City, <BR>on which occasion he played the Trois Danses of Jehan Alain. &nbsp;I = know these <BR>pieces very well, but have never played them in public: they contain = some <BR>fiendishly difficult passages. <BR>I seem to recall that, on that occasion, I posted a very laudatory = review of <BR>Mr. Hall's performance to that other organ website, Piprorg-l (to = which I no <BR>longer subscribe). &nbsp;Perhaps Mr. Hall has forgotten. &nbsp;Or = perhaps I shouldn't <BR>have bothered! <BR> <BR>I also gave Mr. Hall a copy of a Franz Schmidt score on that occasion, = if I <BR>remember correctly. &nbsp;I'm still waiting for him to perform it. <BR> <BR>Regards to all, <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande <BR> <BR>http://www.mp3.com/arthurlamirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_81.8265866.27e1570f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: C-3 and Allen Renaissance 350?? From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:25:00 EST     --part1_3a.1227e9b2.27e165dc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The main problem for me is finding proper registrations that will mix with =   the orchestra, and the piano. After attending the church for two weeks = now, I have learned some things though... First of all, it is an Assembly of = God church, I knew this already of course but I was told on the phone that = they held very traditional services, and very formal services. So I guess I = got my hopes up too high. but they do hold traditional services in the = morning, and an Allen Renaissance R-350 would be perfect for these services- = because they sing only hymns, and a few traditional choruses. As far as the = Concert grand, you could not hear that piano if you were three feet away, as loud = as the choir is, which is why the pianists break 2 to 3 strings a month, = making it the worst sounding piano I have ever encountered. I have played on hammonds before, as has every organist, but I took = lessons from Dr. Ronald Hogue on a 85 rank pipe organ, and we have never even = touched on the basics of theatre style, or jazz music although I am sure he could = do both... This church does have very modern, un-traditional services in the evening, =   and the Hammond would be great for this service to accompany the praise = band, and small ensemble, I will just have to practice the style I guess. So I think that instead of replacing the organ, we should just buy an additional organ for the morning service. I have heard that some churches =   did, in fact, have two organs for similar reasons. Thanks for all the input Josh   --part1_3a.1227e9b2.27e165dc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>The main problem for me = is finding proper registrations that will mix with <BR>the orchestra, and the piano. &nbsp;After attending the church for two = weeks now, <BR>I have learned some things though... &nbsp;First of all, it is an = Assembly of God <BR>church, I knew this already of course but I was told on the phone that = they <BR>held very traditional services, and very formal services. &nbsp;So I = guess I got <BR>my hopes up too high. &nbsp;but they do hold traditional services in = the morning, <BR>and an Allen Renaissance R-350 would be perfect for these services- = because <BR>they sing only hymns, and a few traditional choruses. &nbsp;As far as = the Concert <BR>grand, you could not hear that piano if you were three feet away, as = loud as <BR>the choir is, which is why the pianists break 2 to 3 strings a month, = making <BR>it the worst sounding piano I have ever encountered. &nbsp; <BR>I have played on hammonds before, as has every organist, but I took = lessons <BR>from Dr. Ronald Hogue on a 85 rank pipe organ, and we have never even = touched <BR>on the basics of theatre style, or jazz music although I am sure he = could do <BR>both... <BR>This church does have very modern, un-traditional services in the = evening, <BR>and the Hammond would be great for this service to accompany the = praise band, <BR>and small ensemble, I will just have to practice the style I guess. <BR>So I think that instead of replacing the organ, we should just buy an <BR>additional organ for the morning service. &nbsp;I have heard that some = churches <BR>did, in fact, have two organs for similar reasons. <BR>Thanks for all &nbsp;the input <BR>Josh </FONT></HTML>   --part1_3a.1227e9b2.27e165dc_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: review of review of review From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:37:27 EST   Au contraire. Mr. Hall does not reside in the hinterlands of Indiana but = is organist of a prominent Episcopal parish on the upper east side. I believe = he is a native New Yorker and spent his formative years in the Gramercy Park area. I am sure he is well acquainted with musical "criticism" in the New York papers as well as with the organ community and the wider musical community in New York. While a doctoral student at Indiana, he also pulled =   off an FAGO and received the prize for scoring the highest on the AGO exam =   (can't recall if that was for AAGO or FAGO) recently. His knowledge of = music theory is dazzling, and his performing ability is dazzling, not to mention =   his erudition in English literature.   I'm honored to count him a friend -- actually we became acquainted via piporg-l several years ago, and I had the pleasure of turning pages for = him on a couple occasions.   I find Mr. L's uninformed attack on Jonathan most unbecoming and certainly =   inappropriate in this forum.   David Krohne (DudelK) Washington, DC  
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:53:42 -0800   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_172978209= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 04:54 PM 3/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:     >Perhaps not replace this poor little thing..... I think that an = instrument >commensurate with the rest of the church would be appropriate, NEXT to = the >relic!     Yes, with the Relic under a plexiglass cover to make sure it never needs = to be heard.....   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_172978209= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> <font size=3D3>At 04:54 PM 3/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:<br> <br> <br> </font><blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font size=3D3 = color=3D"#0000A0">Perhaps not replace this poor little thing..... I think that an instrument <br> commensurate with the rest of the church would be appropriate, NEXT to the <br> relic! </font></blockquote><br> <br> Yes, with the Relic under a plexiglass cover to make sure it never needs to be heard.....<br> </html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_172978209= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: memorial and other Hammonds From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:13:51 -0800   Hey, don't discount the strength of sentiment ... it took me three and a half years to overcome a memorial Hammond (the donor's widow was still on the Vestry), and it probably wouldn't have happened THEN if a pipe organ from a neighboring parish hadn't been virtually dropped in our LAPS for next to NO money. THAT broke the dam ... all of a sudden people started giving to the PIPE organ fund.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Need general help re: wedding/28 prayerbook church From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:17:27 -0600   Bud and others: I got an e-mail today from one of my former parishioners now in college at FSU, recently moved back from Washington, DC. She is getting married in May in a '28 Prayer Book Church about an hour's drive from here. She asked me to play, and of course I will do this gratis for her (I'm so proud of her, but why don't my parishioners come back to our little picture-book church with the great little organ?).   I know nothing else about the church at this point. Aside from trying to find out what electronic gizmo they have (if it's a Hammond, I'll just = have to slit my wrists - never figured them out - they're why I didn't play an organ until 30 yoa), what should I know about a wedding service? I have = the old prayer book service (have a '45 version here at home, and personally plighted my troth to that service, albeit not an Episcopalian then). And = I assume couples can opt to have a full Eucharist with hymns and the whole hog, can't they?   I will find out more from the celebrant later, but wanted to be armed with information of anything you think might be unanticipated by me at this point.   Thanks,   Glenda Sutton