PipeChat Digest #1900 - Friday, March 16, 2001
 
RE: Practice Organ Options
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Re: Speaking up
  by "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital
Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear"
  by "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com>
RE: Samford Univ./Alabama
  by "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue
  by "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au>
Re: Creative Name Needed
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Creative Name Needed
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Creative Name Needed
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear"
  by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com>
Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: playing by ear
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Info. on Organ in MO
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: Practice Organ Options
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Help! My Cup Runneth Over!!
  by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear"
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Practice Organ Options From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:26 -0000   >>insist on keeping the former sanctuary at baking >>heat 24-hrs a day.<snip>   >Of course, everything's relative. In "Merrie Olde" and environs, it = seems >anything about 10=B0C is "baking hot"!   Merrie Olde refers to England - you're on thin ice! Lucky you mentioned environs - Scotland might just come into that...! All is then forgiven!    
(back) Subject: RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:29 -0000   Yes, I heard the Widor recording, and it was strikingly slow. But in a resonant acoustic it seemed OK. Has anyone heard Carlo Curley playing = this? It's...well...ridiculous!   Andrew   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Rebekah Ingram Sent: 16 March 2001 03:12 To: PipeChat Subject: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals       ----- Original Message ----- From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: Fw: toward a theology of organ recitals     > Good going, Bob. At least the guys at Indy's Paramount Music Palace (a > pizza joynt) kept Widor in proper tempo.   I heard a recording of Widor playing his own Toccata and it was ssssslllllloooooowwwwww. Granted, I've probably heard Anthony Newman play = it a few too many times, but I never would have thought from the "buoyancy" = of the music that Widor himself would have played it as such.   Mayhaps he was still being influenced by Schweitzer. ;-)   Anyone else heard this recording? Comments?     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking up From: "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:22:57 +0500   Daniel Roth has released at least one disc from Saint Sulpice. Check the OHS catalog at http://www.ohscatalog.org.   At 12:56 AM 3/16/2001 -0800, you wrote: >I recently heard a recording of the [new?] Fisk instrument in Ben????? >Hall in Seattle. In the past I have generally been favorably impressed >with Fisk instruments but this one sounded ---well, less than impressive. =   >It sounded rather "leathery" (??) Was it the acoustics of the hall or the =   >voicing -- or both? But I find this to be true of most "concert hall" >instruments vs "church" instruments. Acoustics?? It really sounded quite >horrible, frankly. > >If I may add a second topic (I don't contribute that often.) I recently >played my old 33&1/3 "LPs" of Marcel Dupre playing Bach on "his" >Caville-Coll instrument at St. Sulpice in Paris. It has been quite a = while >since I heard these recordings (collector's items now, I understand) and = I >was supervised at how "refreshing" they sounded. -- that is, the organ, >the acoustic and Dupre's style of playing Bach. What a beautiful >instrument! These (Mercury label) recordings must be from the late 50's >and I bought them soon after their first release. The sound is gorgeous >(even with the tape hiss). Is this instrument still in top-notch shape? > >The sound of (what I assume to be) the 8' Montre is -- played alone in = one >of two cuts -- just plain beautiful! And although I may quibble with >Dupre's idea of Bach in one or two instances, (tempi, fingering, >registration) the overall effect is marvelous. Bach with a definite = French >accent but oh, so nice. > >I purchased these records when I was a freshman in college (1961) and = they >then represented a substantial amount of my "pocket money." I used to >listen to them over rather inexpensive headphones (thanks to an = intolerant >roommate) and they brought me hours of pleasure. Perhaps some of their >appeal today is the happy memories they bring back. (There is one cut >where two stops are so out of tune with each other that is >"quaint"!) Are there any current recordings of this instrument >available -- preferably playing Bach, but French masters will do as well? > >Thus ends my quarterly post to this fine group. > >Dave Pitzer >California > >Dave Pitzer > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     --------------------------- Len Beyersdorfer MARATHON Digital Publishing Marlboro, Massachusetts LenB@MDigital.com 508-460-6172 ---------------------------    
(back) Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" From: "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:33:24 -0600   As a general comment from a musical illiterate (I play by ear and read with great difficulty). (Not directed as a response to anyone in particular - expect those who believe playing by ear is a gift.) Perhaps people learn to play by ear because they are so anxious to hear the music that they won't take the time to learn to read notes. Of course, later - the people who read music excel while the person playing by ear wishes they'd taken the time learn.   Whatever your current state - if you want to play by ear - just do it.   The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next couple of years it will improve.   But then again - how long did it take you to learn to read music?   -- KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com See our new video - 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails'  
(back) Subject: RE: Samford Univ./Alabama From: "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:51:29 -0600   Randy wrote:   15 Rank Von Beckerath in small recital hall large 2 manual Schlicker in middle recital hall BIG 50 rank Whiteford Aeolian Skinner in the campus Church 25-30 rank 2 man. in Beeson Chapel - newest campus organ Several tracker (Beckeraths) and Holtkamp martinis to practice on. Big Carillon in tower   *****   Hi List!   I am a staff accompanist in the Samford School of Music and finished my MM in Church Music and Organ recently at Samford. To supplement what Randy = has listed, Our Beeson Chapel organ is a 25-rank Letorneau with the most gorgeous cherry casework you have ever seen. Unfortunately, it is a mild tonal disappointment.   The Aeolian-Skinner in Reid Chapel is a 1968 41-rank instrument that is listed as a Joe Whiteford opus, but it actually was one of the first instruments that Don Gillette finished for Skinner.   The 2-Manual 24-rank Schlicker is in the 2,000 seat concert hall (Wright Center). It was removed as a case instrument in 1998 and reinstalled in a swallows nest configuration in 1999. It is a small instrument, but it is scaled in colossal proportions. Originally intended for accompanying congregational singing at the AL Baptist State Conventions, the 8' Gt principal is almost adequate for accompanying that many voices!   We have one Beckerath practice organ (4 ranks) and one Holtkamp Martini.   I'm glad to know someone is interested in us!   Mark mahopper@bigfoot.com         _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue From: "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:03:37 +1100 (EST)       On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 09:18 PM 3/15/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >Hi- > > > >I like a challenge and my goal is to learn "Toccata > >and Fugue in D Minor. i have had one lesson! Am I crazy or > >what?<snip> > > You're a ways off from that just yet, but I did it in my first year = recital > as a little shaver. It was horrendously overplayed from the '40s onward =   > and I now consider it a "dead" piece.   Yes, may it rest in peace. People either associate this with Dracula and the organ, or the only Bach piece they know (and then proceed to horribly "sing" the opening phrase of the toccata.   I learned this piece fairly early on as well, and while I still play it occasionally, I cannot bear to listen to it anymore.   Cindy, I really would find something less popular, but by all means choose Bach [1] if you wish. You might enjoy the harmony of the other fugues a bit more than BWV 565.   Regarding the practice organ - if you go down the electronic route - I only need to point to this list the variety of organs you will encounter (vis a vis action, pedal arrangements etc), and that your practice organ will unlikely be able to simulate all these differences, especially the sound that is produced - unless you live in a great hall or church. The point is, be aware of the differences - use the practice organ to develop a solid practical base.   > Many of Bach's Preludes and Fugue > bear names, such as "The St. Anne", "The Wedge", and so on. I've = entitied > the d minor "The Ubiquitous", or the "The Overworked".   > DeserTBoB   [1] Of course, here's another opportunity to mention, yet again that questions regarding the authenticity of this work [BWV 565] have been raised...   Mark.    
(back) Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:02:32 +0800   Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in the two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another. Bob Elms.   > > << I am starting up an egroup for organists, students, > teachers, etc. Does anyone have ideas for a name for > our group? Thanks. >>  
(back) Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:04:15 +0800   What about organ STOP!! BE. Louis Katz wrote: > > Organ Depot > > Organ Nation > > Organophilia > > Piperzine > > Louis > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:35:25 -0600   At 9:02 PM +0800 3/16/01, Bob Elms wrote: >Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in the >two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another.   Bob   I have to agree with you on this one.   Cindy - i am saying this not as the owner of this list but as a general subscriber to several of the organ related mailing lists on the net. I personally don't think we need another one. There are numerous lists, several of which have been around for some period of time and have rather high traffic as it is from time to time. There have also been a whole bunch of other lists that have been started and fizzled out after a short period of time. The major lists are PIPORG-L, the "grand-daddy" of the mailing lists having started back in something like 1993, PipeChat which has been around for about 5 years now, and Organchat, which is either 2 or 3 years old. There are also the Theatreorgans list for those interested in theatre organs and the EORG-L list for those interested in discussing electronic organs.   I personally think with these major lists that the field is covered rather completely. There are a couple of other "specialized" lists that also exist but those are of a very highly defined subject area and are usually only open by invitation only to select members. But these lists that I mentioned above basically cover the whole spectrum of our field.   I gather that you are fairly new on this list and after discovering it thought you would like to start your own. One word of warning, if you do start a list be prepared to spend LOTS of time administering it!! You will surprised how much time it takes to deal with all the problems that running a list entails. Plus you have to be available at all times to deal with the problems. I am currently writing this from a motel room in Dallas where we are installing a new organ, I work for a pipe organ builder, and have been on-line and dealing with things like bounced mail, etc for a couple of hours. And I know that there will be more that I will have to do when i get back to my room tonight. Having done this for several years, I have it down to a routine but it still does take time. Just something to think about before you start another list.   Have a great day everyone and sorry to have made this so long especially during a period of high traffic on this list.   David  
(back) Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:30:00 -0800 (PST)   Good point! It took me years to learn to read music. (I started lessons at 4)I guess I did play by ear at one time since i had a piano teacher who would hum along as I played....I just listened to her as i didn't have a clue as to what the notes were!!!!   Cindy, who is going to start trying to play by ear more.   > > Whatever your current state - if you want to play by > ear - just do it. > > The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next > couple of years it > will improve. > > But then again - how long did it take you to learn > to read music? > > -- > KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com > http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com > See our new video - > 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails' > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Cindy   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:57:00 -0500   Cindy....I'm not making fun of you. You only think that because Bob said something about the titles I wrote. Anyway, enough about him.........   If you don't know them, you might want to look into them. It seems odd (to me) that you'd want to learn the toccata & fugue in d minor, which is grossly overplayed, and not some of the others....which are too at times overplayed. Oh, what the heck......you pick the pieces you want, = regardless of what any of us say <G>   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: playing by ear From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:05:45 EST     --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   As for little students, they should not look at their hands, but rely on tactile memory to find keys. Same with the feet. Especially when READING =   music.   Performing a recital is another story. In church and in recital, I = generally play from memory. While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not sure I can say = I'm actually looking at them. I tend to see the music.   That's just me.   Neil   --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for little students, = they should not look at their hands, but rely on <BR>tactile memory to find keys. &nbsp;Same with the feet. = &nbsp;Especially when READING <BR>music. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Performing a recital is another story. &nbsp;In church and in recital, = I generally <BR>play from memory. &nbsp;While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not sure I = can say I'm <BR>actually looking at them. &nbsp;I tend to see the music. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>That's just me. <BR> <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML>   --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Info. on Organ in MO From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:16:04 EST     --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/16/01 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, jlspeller@mindspring.com writes:     > I work for Quimby Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for = around > twenty years. The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dating from = 1931, > and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwood = Gardens > instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. The = church, > alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it, and as = the > leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to patch it = up > and keep it going.   I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that there should be some way that a reputable service organization could take an = organ like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. After =   all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly or it = will be discarded. I realize that service organizations need to make a = living, but isn't there any room for charity?   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/16/01 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, <BR>jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I work for Quimby = Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for around <BR>twenty years. &nbsp;The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dating = from 1931, <BR>and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwood = Gardens <BR>instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. = &nbsp;The church, <BR>alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it, and = as the <BR>leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to patch = it up <BR>and keep it going. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that = there <BR>should be some way that a reputable service organization could take an = organ <BR>like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. = &nbsp;&nbsp;After <BR>all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly or it = will <BR>be discarded. &nbsp;&nbsp;I realize that service organizations need to = make a living, <BR>but isn't there any room for charity? <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:18:10 EST     --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Boy howdy!!! I go away for the night and you all are just cranking out = the mail!! This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a tasteful, diverse and well prepared program? Also, what's wrong with a few bars of = "In a Gadda da Vida"? That's like "Toccata & Fugue in Dm" for rock organ players!!! Cool stuff!!! Have fun with it John. Relax and enjoy. You won't be bored, that's for sure!!!!   Dennis   --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Boy howdy!!! &nbsp;I go = away for the night and you all are just cranking out the <BR>mail!! &nbsp;This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a = tasteful, <BR>diverse and well prepared program? &nbsp;Also, what's wrong with a few = bars of "In <BR>a Gadda da Vida"? &nbsp;That's like "Toccata &amp; Fugue in Dm" for = rock organ <BR>players!!! &nbsp;Cool stuff!!! &nbsp;Have fun with it John. = &nbsp;Relax and enjoy. &nbsp;You <BR>won't be bored, that's for sure!!!! <BR> <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01 From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:20:08 EST     --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Neil, diddle on buddy!! Go ahead!!   Dennis   --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Neil, diddle on buddy!! = &nbsp;Go ahead!! <BR> <BR>Dennis </FONT></HTML>   --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Practice Organ Options From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:10 EST     --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/16/01 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, = caskie@totalise.co.uk writes:     > Here in Edinburgh we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to the > public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a former = church > (closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community > centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father Willis > 3-man 32-stop tracker,   Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? Sounds wonderful.   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/16/01 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, caskie@totalise.co.uk <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Here in Edinburgh = we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to the <BR>public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a former = church <BR>(closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community <BR>centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father = Willis <BR>3-man 32-stop tracker, </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? &nbsp;&nbsp;Sounds wonderful. <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Help! My Cup Runneth Over!! From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:23:04 -0800 (PST)   Hi List-   Please someone tell me the address i need to switch over to read the archives. My box is going to close down with all of these wonderful messages! :-)   Thanks!     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Cindy   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:25:39 -0500   speaking of a 'rock' version of the toccata and fugue in d minor....I did = a benefit concert once with Vanessa Mae, and she played a 'rock' version of it.....very nice!!!   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:27:02 EST     --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/16/01 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@svs.net =   writes:     > Improvising is diddling around with a well-known tune in different = tempos, > rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. > > Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a recital > from the top of ones' head -sans sheet music. >   I would vote for wrong!   Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. It's exploring = the resources of the performer and the instrument. Improvising is primarily = all new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although this is more commonly associated with "diddling!!" ;-)   Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response to the question, "Could you hum a few bars?"     Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/16/01 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@svs.net <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Improvising is = diddling around &nbsp;with a well-known tune in different tempos, <BR>rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. <BR> <BR>Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a = recital <BR>from the top of ones' head &nbsp;-sans sheet music. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I would vote for wrong! <BR> <BR>Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. = &nbsp;&nbsp;It's exploring the <BR>resources of the performer and the instrument. &nbsp;&nbsp;Improvising = is primarily all <BR>new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although this = is <BR>more commonly associated with "diddling!!" &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response to = the <BR>question, "Could you hum a few bars?" <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary--