PipeChat Digest #1902 - Friday, March 16, 2001
 
Practice organs
  by "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net>
 

(back) Subject: Practice organs From: "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:40:02 -0600   Speaking of practice organs, I am searching for a late model two manual "Testy Estey" reed organ in the Milwaukee/Chicago area.   Any leads?   Thanks,   Tom Gregory -- Thomas and Patricia Gregory 716 West College Avenue Waukesha WI USA 53186-4569   ---------- >From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: PipeChat Digest #1900 - 03/16/01 >Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2001, 9:32 AM >   > PipeChat Digest #1900 - Friday, March 16, 2001 > > RE: Practice Organ Options > by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals > by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > Re: Speaking up > by "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigit= al > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > by "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> > RE: Samford Univ./Alabama > by "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com> > Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > by "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> > Re: Creative Name Needed > by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > Re: Creative Name Needed > by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > Re: Creative Name Needed > by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > Re: playing by ear > by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> > Re: Info. on Organ in MO > by <Cremona502@cs.com> > Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > by <StatRussell@aol.com> > Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01 > by <StatRussell@aol.com> > Re: Practice Organ Options > by <Cremona502@cs.com> > Help! My Cup Runneth Over!! > by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > by <Cremona502@cs.com> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: Practice Organ Options > From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:26 -0000 > >>>insist on keeping the former sanctuary at baking >>>heat 24-hrs a day.<snip> > >>Of course, everything's relative. In "Merrie Olde" and environs, it seem= s >>anything about 10=B0C is "baking hot"! > > Merrie Olde refers to England - you're on thin ice! Lucky you mentioned > environs - Scotland might just come into that...! All is then forgiven! > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals > From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:29 -0000 > > Yes, I heard the Widor recording, and it was strikingly slow. But in a > resonant acoustic it seemed OK. Has anyone heard Carlo Curley playing thi= s? > It's...well...ridiculous! > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Rebekah Ingram > Sent: 16 March 2001 03:12 > To: PipeChat > Subject: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:39 PM > Subject: Fw: toward a theology of organ recitals > > >> Good going, Bob. At least the guys at Indy's Paramount Music Palace (a >> pizza joynt) kept Widor in proper tempo. > > I heard a recording of Widor playing his own Toccata and it was > ssssslllllloooooowwwwww. Granted, I've probably heard Anthony Newman play= it > a few too many times, but I never would have thought from the "buoyancy" = of > the music that Widor himself would have played it as such. > > Mayhaps he was still being influenced by Schweitzer. ;-) > > Anyone else heard this recording? Comments? > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Speaking up > From: "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:22:57 +0500 > > Daniel Roth has released at least one disc from Saint Sulpice. Check the > OHS catalog at http://www.ohscatalog.org. > > At 12:56 AM 3/16/2001 -0800, you wrote: >>I recently heard a recording of the [new?] Fisk instrument in Ben????? >>Hall in Seattle. In the past I have generally been favorably impressed >>with Fisk instruments but this one sounded ---well, less than impressive. >>It sounded rather "leathery" (??) Was it the acoustics of the hall or the >>voicing -- or both? But I find this to be true of most "concert hall" >>instruments vs "church" instruments. Acoustics?? It really sounded quite >>horrible, frankly. >> >>If I may add a second topic (I don't contribute that often.) I recently >>played my old 33&1/3 "LPs" of Marcel Dupre playing Bach on "his" >>Caville-Coll instrument at St. Sulpice in Paris. It has been quite a whil= e >>since I heard these recordings (collector's items now, I understand) and = I >>was supervised at how "refreshing" they sounded. -- that is, the organ, >>the acoustic and Dupre's style of playing Bach. What a beautiful >>instrument! These (Mercury label) recordings must be from the late 50's >>and I bought them soon after their first release. The sound is gorgeous >>(even with the tape hiss). Is this instrument still in top-notch shape? >> >>The sound of (what I assume to be) the 8' Montre is -- played alone in on= e >>of two cuts -- just plain beautiful! And although I may quibble with >>Dupre's idea of Bach in one or two instances, (tempi, fingering, >>registration) the overall effect is marvelous. Bach with a definite Frenc= h >>accent but oh, so nice. >> >>I purchased these records when I was a freshman in college (1961) and the= y >>then represented a substantial amount of my "pocket money." I used to >>listen to them over rather inexpensive headphones (thanks to an intoleran= t >>roommate) and they brought me hours of pleasure. Perhaps some of their >>appeal today is the happy memories they bring back. (There is one cut >>where two stops are so out of tune with each other that is >>"quaint"!) Are there any current recordings of this instrument >>available -- preferably playing Bach, but French masters will do as well? >> >>Thus ends my quarterly post to this fine group. >> >>Dave Pitzer >>California >> >>Dave Pitzer >> >> >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > > > --------------------------- > Len Beyersdorfer > MARATHON Digital Publishing > Marlboro, Massachusetts > LenB@MDigital.com > 508-460-6172 > --------------------------- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > From: "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:33:24 -0600 > > As a general comment from a musical illiterate (I play by ear and read > with great difficulty). (Not directed as a response to anyone in > particular - expect those who believe playing by ear is a gift.) > Perhaps people learn to play by ear because they are so anxious to hear > the music that they won't take the time to learn to read notes. Of > course, later - the people who read music excel while the person playing > by ear wishes they'd taken the time learn. > > Whatever your current state - if you want to play by ear - just do it. > > The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next couple of years it > will improve. > > But then again - how long did it take you to learn to read music? > > -- > KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com > http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com > See our new video - > 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: Samford Univ./Alabama > From: "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:51:29 -0600 > > Randy wrote: > > 15 Rank Von Beckerath in small recital hall > large 2 manual Schlicker in middle recital hall > BIG 50 rank Whiteford Aeolian Skinner in the campus Church > 25-30 rank 2 man. in Beeson Chapel - newest campus organ > Several tracker (Beckeraths) and Holtkamp martinis to practice on. > Big Carillon in tower > > ***** > > Hi List! > > I am a staff accompanist in the Samford School of Music and finished my M= M > in Church Music and Organ recently at Samford. To supplement what Randy = has > listed, Our Beeson Chapel organ is a 25-rank Letorneau with the most > gorgeous cherry casework you have ever seen. Unfortunately, it is a mild > tonal disappointment. > > The Aeolian-Skinner in Reid Chapel is a 1968 41-rank instrument that is > listed as a Joe Whiteford opus, but it actually was one of the first > instruments that Don Gillette finished for Skinner. > > The 2-Manual 24-rank Schlicker is in the 2,000 seat concert hall (Wright > Center). It was removed as a case instrument in 1998 and reinstalled in = a > swallows nest configuration in 1999. It is a small instrument, but it is > scaled in colossal proportions. Originally intended for accompanying > congregational singing at the AL Baptist State Conventions, the 8' Gt > principal is almost adequate for accompanying that many voices! > > We have one Beckerath practice organ (4 ranks) and one Holtkamp Martini. > > I'm glad to know someone is interested in us! > > Mark > mahopper@bigfoot.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > From: "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> > Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:03:37 +1100 (EST) > > > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Bob Scarborough wrote: > >> At 09:18 PM 3/15/2001 -0800, you wrote: >> >Hi- >> > >> >I like a challenge and my goal is to learn "Toccata >> >and Fugue in D Minor. i have had one lesson! Am I crazy or >> >what?<snip> >> >> You're a ways off from that just yet, but I did it in my first year reci= tal >> as a little shaver. It was horrendously overplayed from the '40s onward >> and I now consider it a "dead" piece. > > Yes, may it rest in peace. People either associate this with Dracula and > the organ, or the only Bach piece they know (and then proceed to horribly > "sing" the opening phrase of the toccata. > > I learned this piece fairly early on as well, and while I still play it > occasionally, I cannot bear to listen to it anymore. > > Cindy, I really would find something less popular, but by all means choos= e > Bach [1] if you wish. You might enjoy the harmony of the other fugues a > bit more than BWV 565. > > Regarding the practice organ - if you go down the electronic route - I > only need to point to this list the variety of organs you will encounter > (vis a vis action, pedal arrangements etc), and that your practice organ > will unlikely be able to simulate all these differences, especially the > sound that is produced - unless you live in a great hall or church. The > point is, be aware of the differences - use the practice organ to develop > a solid practical base. > >> Many of Bach's Preludes and Fugue >> bear names, such as "The St. Anne", "The Wedge", and so on. I've entiti= ed >> the d minor "The Ubiquitous", or the "The Overworked". > >> DeserTBoB > > [1] Of course, here's another opportunity to mention, yet again that > questions regarding the authenticity of this work [BWV 565] > have been raised... > > Mark. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed > From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:02:32 +0800 > > Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in the > two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another. > Bob Elms. > >> >> << I am starting up an egroup for organists, students, >> teachers, etc. Does anyone have ideas for a name for >> our group? Thanks. >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed > From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:04:15 +0800 > > What about > organ STOP!! > BE. > Louis Katz wrote: >> >> Organ Depot >> >> Organ Nation >> >> Organophilia >> >> Piperzine >> >> Louis >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed > From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:35:25 -0600 > > At 9:02 PM +0800 3/16/01, Bob Elms wrote: >>Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in the >>two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another. > > Bob > > I have to agree with you on this one. > > Cindy - i am saying this not as the owner of this list but as a > general subscriber to several of the organ related mailing lists on > the net. I personally don't think we need another one. There are > numerous lists, several of which have been around for some period of > time and have rather high traffic as it is from time to time. There > have also been a whole bunch of other lists that have been started > and fizzled out after a short period of time. The major lists are > PIPORG-L, the "grand-daddy" of the mailing lists having started back > in something like 1993, PipeChat which has been around for about 5 > years now, and Organchat, which is either 2 or 3 years old. There > are also the Theatreorgans list for those interested in theatre > organs and the EORG-L list for those interested in discussing > electronic organs. > > I personally think with these major lists that the field is covered > rather completely. There are a couple of other "specialized" lists > that also exist but those are of a very highly defined subject area > and are usually only open by invitation only to select members. But > these lists that I mentioned above basically cover the whole spectrum > of our field. > > I gather that you are fairly new on this list and after discovering > it thought you would like to start your own. One word of warning, if > you do start a list be prepared to spend LOTS of time administering > it!! You will surprised how much time it takes to deal with all the > problems that running a list entails. Plus you have to be available > at all times to deal with the problems. I am currently writing this > from a motel room in Dallas where we are installing a new organ, I > work for a pipe organ builder, and have been on-line and dealing with > things like bounced mail, etc for a couple of hours. And I know that > there will be more that I will have to do when i get back to my room > tonight. Having done this for several years, I have it down to a > routine but it still does take time. Just something to think about > before you start another list. > > Have a great day everyone and sorry to have made this so long > especially during a period of high traffic on this list. > > David > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:30:00 -0800 (PST) > > Good point! It took me years to learn to read music. > (I started lessons at 4)I guess I did play by ear at > one time since i had a piano > teacher who would hum along as I played....I just > listened to her as i didn't have a clue as to what the > notes were!!!! > > Cindy, who is going to start trying to play by ear > more. > > > >> Whatever your current state - if you want to play by >> ear - just do it. >> >> The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next >> couple of years it >> will improve. >> >> But then again - how long did it take you to learn >> to read music? >> >> -- >> KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com >> http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com >> See our new video - >> 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails' >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital >> organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Cindy > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:57:00 -0500 > > Cindy....I'm not making fun of you. You only think that because Bob said > something about the titles I wrote. Anyway, enough about him......... > > If you don't know them, you might want to look into them. It seems odd (t= o > me) that you'd want to learn the toccata & fugue in d minor, which is > grossly overplayed, and not some of the others....which are too at times > overplayed. Oh, what the heck......you pick the pieces you want, regardle= ss > of what any of us say <G> > > Carlo > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: playing by ear > From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:05:45 EST > > > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > As for little students, they should not look at their hands, but rely on > tactile memory to find keys. Same with the feet. Especially when READIN= G > music. > > Performing a recital is another story. In church and in recital, I gener= ally > play from memory. While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not sure I can say = I'm > actually looking at them. I tend to see the music. > > That's just me. > > Neil > > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for little students, th= ey > should not look at their hands, but rely on > <BR>tactile memory to find keys. &nbsp;Same with the feet. &nbsp;Especial= ly > when READING > <BR>music. &nbsp; > <BR> > <BR>Performing a recital is another story. &nbsp;In church and in recital= , > I generally > <BR>play from memory. &nbsp;While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not sure I > can say I'm > <BR>actually looking at them. &nbsp;I tend to see the music. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; > <BR> > <BR>That's just me. > <BR> > <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML> > > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary-- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Info. on Organ in MO > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:16:04 EST > > > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 3/16/01 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, > jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: > > >> I work for Quimby Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for aro= und >> twenty years. The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dating from 193= 1, >> and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwood Gard= ens >> instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. The churc= h, >> alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it, and as= the >> leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to patch it= up >> and keep it going. > > I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that there > should be some way that a reputable service organization could take an or= gan > like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. Afte= r > all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly or it wi= ll > be discarded. I realize that service organizations need to make a livin= g, > but isn't there any room for charity? > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/16/01 > 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, > <BR>jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: > <BR> > <BR> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I work for Quimby > Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for around > <BR>twenty years. &nbsp;The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dating = from 1931, > <BR>and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwood Gardens > <BR>instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. &nbsp;T= he church, > <BR>alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it, and= as the > <BR>leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to patch= it up > <BR>and keep it going. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> > <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> > <BR>I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that the= re > <BR>should be some way that a reputable service organization could take a= n organ > <BR>like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. > &nbsp;&nbsp;After > <BR>all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly or i= t will > <BR>be discarded. &nbsp;&nbsp;I realize that service organizations need t= o > make a living, > <BR>but isn't there any room for charity? > <BR> > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> > > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary-- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > From: <StatRussell@aol.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:18:10 EST > > > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Boy howdy!!! I go away for the night and you all are just cranking out t= he > mail!! This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a tasteful, > diverse and well prepared program? Also, what's wrong with a few bars of= "In > a Gadda da Vida"? That's like "Toccata & Fugue in Dm" for rock organ > players!!! Cool stuff!!! Have fun with it John. Relax and enjoy. You > won't be bored, that's for sure!!!! > > Dennis > > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Boy howdy!!! &nbsp;I go aw= ay > for the night and you all are just cranking out the > <BR>mail!! &nbsp;This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a tasteful, > <BR>diverse and well prepared program? &nbsp;Also, what's wrong with a fe= w > bars of "In > <BR>a Gadda da Vida"? &nbsp;That's like "Toccata &amp; Fugue in Dm" for r= ock organ > <BR>players!!! &nbsp;Cool stuff!!! &nbsp;Have fun with it John. &nbsp;Rel= ax > and enjoy. &nbsp;You > <BR>won't be bored, that's for sure!!!! > <BR> > <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML> > > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary-- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01 > From: <StatRussell@aol.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:20:08 EST > > > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Neil, diddle on buddy!! Go ahead!! > > Dennis > > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Neil, diddle on buddy!! > &nbsp;Go ahead!! > <BR> > <BR>Dennis </FONT></HTML> > > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary-- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Practice Organ Options > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:10 EST > > > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 3/16/01 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, caskie@totalise.c= o.uk > writes: > > >> Here in Edinburgh we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to the >> public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a former chu= rch >> (closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community >> centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father Willis >> 3-man 32-stop tracker, > > Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? Sounds wonderful. > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/16/01 > 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, caskie@totalise.co.uk > <BR>writes: > <BR> > <BR> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Here in Edinburgh > we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to the > <BR>public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a former church > <BR>(closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community > <BR>centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father Wil= lis > <BR>3-man 32-stop tracker, </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> > <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> > <BR>Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? &nbsp;&nbsp;Sounds wonderful. > <BR> > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> > > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary-- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Help! My Cup Runneth Over!! > From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:23:04 -0800 (PST) > > Hi List- > > Please someone tell me the address i need to switch > over to read the archives. My box is going to close > down with all of these wonderful messages! :-) > > Thanks! > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Cindy > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:25:39 -0500 > > speaking of a 'rock' version of the toccata and fugue in d minor....I did= a > benefit concert once with Vanessa Mae, and she played a 'rock' version of > it.....very nice!!! > > Carlo > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:27:02 EST > > > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 3/16/01 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@svs.ne= t > writes: > > >> Improvising is diddling around with a well-known tune in different temp= os, >> rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. >> >> Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a recital >> from the top of ones' head -sans sheet music. >> > > I would vote for wrong! > > Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. It's exploring = the > resources of the performer and the instrument. Improvising is primarily= all > new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although this is > more commonly associated with "diddling!!" ;-) > > Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response to the > question, "Could you hum a few bars?" > > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/16/01 > 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@svs.net > <BR>writes: > <BR> > <BR> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Improvising is > diddling around &nbsp;with a well-known tune in different tempos, > <BR>rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. > <BR> > <BR>Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a reci= tal > <BR>from the top of ones' head &nbsp;-sans sheet music. > <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> > <BR> > <BR>I would vote for wrong! > <BR> > <BR>Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. > &nbsp;&nbsp;It's exploring the > <BR>resources of the performer and the instrument. &nbsp;&nbsp;Improvisin= g > is primarily all > <BR>new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although thi= s is > <BR>more commonly associated with "diddling!!" &nbsp;;-) > <BR> > <BR>Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response to t= he > <BR>question, "Could you hum a few bars?" > <BR> > <BR> > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> > > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary-- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > End of PipeChat Digest > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org