PipeChat Digest #1906 - Friday, March 16, 2001
 
Re: Practice organs
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Practice organs From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:11:26 -0800   Look in the basements of big old RC churches that used to have Mass in th= e "lower church" and the "upper church" ... those that couldn't afford pipe organs= (or didn't have the ceiling height for them) in the basement church often had two-manual reed organs instead.   And/or go to "Reed Organs for Sale" on Theatre Organ Classifieds at   http://barton.theatreorgans.com/adsearch.asp   And if you see one out west, LET ME KNOW (grin).   Cheers,   Bud         Patricia/Thomas Gregory wrote:   > Speaking of practice organs, I am searching for a late model two manual > "Testy Estey" reed organ in the Milwaukee/Chicago area. > > Any leads? > > Thanks, > > Tom Gregory > -- > Thomas and Patricia Gregory > 716 West College Avenue > Waukesha WI USA > 53186-4569 > > ---------- > >From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > >Subject: PipeChat Digest #1900 - 03/16/01 > >Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2001, 9:32 AM > > > > > PipeChat Digest #1900 - Friday, March 16, 2001 > > > > RE: Practice Organ Options > > by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > > RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals > > by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > > Re: Speaking up > > by "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MD= igital > > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > > by "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> > > RE: Samford Univ./Alabama > > by "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com> > > Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > > by "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> > > Re: Creative Name Needed > > by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > > Re: Creative Name Needed > > by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > > Re: Creative Name Needed > > by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> > > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > > by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > > Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > > by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > > Re: playing by ear > > by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> > > Re: Info. on Organ in MO > > by <Cremona502@cs.com> > > Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > > by <StatRussell@aol.com> > > Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01 > > by <StatRussell@aol.com> > > Re: Practice Organ Options > > by <Cremona502@cs.com> > > Help! My Cup Runneth Over!! > > by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > > Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > > by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > > by <Cremona502@cs.com> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: RE: Practice Organ Options > > From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:26 -0000 > > > >>>insist on keeping the former sanctuary at baking > >>>heat 24-hrs a day.<snip> > > > >>Of course, everything's relative. In "Merrie Olde" and environs, it = seems > >>anything about 10=B0C is "baking hot"! > > > > Merrie Olde refers to England - you're on thin ice! Lucky you mention= ed > > environs - Scotland might just come into that...! All is then forgive= n! > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals > > From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:29 -0000 > > > > Yes, I heard the Widor recording, and it was strikingly slow. But in = a > > resonant acoustic it seemed OK. Has anyone heard Carlo Curley playing= this? > > It's...well...ridiculous! > > > > Andrew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf O= f > > Rebekah Ingram > > Sent: 16 March 2001 03:12 > > To: PipeChat > > Subject: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> > > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:39 PM > > Subject: Fw: toward a theology of organ recitals > > > > > >> Good going, Bob. At least the guys at Indy's Paramount Music Palace= (a > >> pizza joynt) kept Widor in proper tempo. > > > > I heard a recording of Widor playing his own Toccata and it was > > ssssslllllloooooowwwwww. Granted, I've probably heard Anthony Newman = play it > > a few too many times, but I never would have thought from the "buoyan= cy" of > > the music that Widor himself would have played it as such. > > > > Mayhaps he was still being influenced by Schweitzer. ;-) > > > > Anyone else heard this recording? Comments? > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topic= s > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Speaking up > > From: "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital.= com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:22:57 +0500 > > > > Daniel Roth has released at least one disc from Saint Sulpice. Check= the > > OHS catalog at http://www.ohscatalog.org. > > > > At 12:56 AM 3/16/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >>I recently heard a recording of the [new?] Fisk instrument in Ben????= ? > >>Hall in Seattle. In the past I have generally been favorably impresse= d > >>with Fisk instruments but this one sounded ---well, less than impress= ive. > >>It sounded rather "leathery" (??) Was it the acoustics of the hall or= the > >>voicing -- or both? But I find this to be true of most "concert hall" > >>instruments vs "church" instruments. Acoustics?? It really sounded qu= ite > >>horrible, frankly. > >> > >>If I may add a second topic (I don't contribute that often.) I recent= ly > >>played my old 33&1/3 "LPs" of Marcel Dupre playing Bach on "his" > >>Caville-Coll instrument at St. Sulpice in Paris. It has been quite a = while > >>since I heard these recordings (collector's items now, I understand) = and I > >>was supervised at how "refreshing" they sounded. -- that is, the orga= n, > >>the acoustic and Dupre's style of playing Bach. What a beautiful > >>instrument! These (Mercury label) recordings must be from the late 5= 0's > >>and I bought them soon after their first release. The sound is gorgeo= us > >>(even with the tape hiss). Is this instrument still in top-notch sha= pe? > >> > >>The sound of (what I assume to be) the 8' Montre is -- played alone i= n one > >>of two cuts -- just plain beautiful! And although I may quibble with > >>Dupre's idea of Bach in one or two instances, (tempi, fingering, > >>registration) the overall effect is marvelous. Bach with a definite F= rench > >>accent but oh, so nice. > >> > >>I purchased these records when I was a freshman in college (1961) and= they > >>then represented a substantial amount of my "pocket money." I used t= o > >>listen to them over rather inexpensive headphones (thanks to an intol= erant > >>roommate) and they brought me hours of pleasure. Perhaps some of thei= r > >>appeal today is the happy memories they bring back. (There is one cut > >>where two stops are so out of tune with each other that is > >>"quaint"!) Are there any current recordings of this instrument > >>available -- preferably playing Bach, but French masters will do as w= ell? > >> > >>Thus ends my quarterly post to this fine group. > >> > >>Dave Pitzer > >>California > >> > >>Dave Pitzer > >> > >> > >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topic= s > >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >> > > > > > > --------------------------- > > Len Beyersdorfer > > MARATHON Digital Publishing > > Marlboro, Massachusetts > > LenB@MDigital.com > > 508-460-6172 > > --------------------------- > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > > From: "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:33:24 -0600 > > > > As a general comment from a musical illiterate (I play by ear and rea= d > > with great difficulty). (Not directed as a response to anyone in > > particular - expect those who believe playing by ear is a gift.) > > Perhaps people learn to play by ear because they are so anxious to he= ar > > the music that they won't take the time to learn to read notes. Of > > course, later - the people who read music excel while the person play= ing > > by ear wishes they'd taken the time learn. > > > > Whatever your current state - if you want to play by ear - just do it. > > > > The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next couple of years i= t > > will improve. > > > > But then again - how long did it take you to learn to read music? > > > > -- > > KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com > > http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com > > See our new video - > > 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails' > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: RE: Samford Univ./Alabama > > From: "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:51:29 -0600 > > > > Randy wrote: > > > > 15 Rank Von Beckerath in small recital hall > > large 2 manual Schlicker in middle recital hall > > BIG 50 rank Whiteford Aeolian Skinner in the campus Church > > 25-30 rank 2 man. in Beeson Chapel - newest campus organ > > Several tracker (Beckeraths) and Holtkamp martinis to practice on. > > Big Carillon in tower > > > > ***** > > > > Hi List! > > > > I am a staff accompanist in the Samford School of Music and finished = my MM > > in Church Music and Organ recently at Samford. To supplement what Ra= ndy has > > listed, Our Beeson Chapel organ is a 25-rank Letorneau with the most > > gorgeous cherry casework you have ever seen. Unfortunately, it is a = mild > > tonal disappointment. > > > > The Aeolian-Skinner in Reid Chapel is a 1968 41-rank instrument that = is > > listed as a Joe Whiteford opus, but it actually was one of the first > > instruments that Don Gillette finished for Skinner. > > > > The 2-Manual 24-rank Schlicker is in the 2,000 seat concert hall (Wri= ght > > Center). It was removed as a case instrument in 1998 and reinstalled= in a > > swallows nest configuration in 1999. It is a small instrument, but i= t is > > scaled in colossal proportions. Originally intended for accompanying > > congregational singing at the AL Baptist State Conventions, the 8' Gt > > principal is almost adequate for accompanying that many voices! > > > > We have one Beckerath practice organ (4 ranks) and one Holtkamp Marti= ni. > > > > I'm glad to know someone is interested in us! > > > > Mark > > mahopper@bigfoot.com > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > > From: "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> > > Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:03:37 +1100 (EST) > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Bob Scarborough wrote: > > > >> At 09:18 PM 3/15/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >> >Hi- > >> > > >> >I like a challenge and my goal is to learn "Toccata > >> >and Fugue in D Minor. i have had one lesson! Am I crazy or > >> >what?<snip> > >> > >> You're a ways off from that just yet, but I did it in my first year = recital > >> as a little shaver. It was horrendously overplayed from the '40s on= ward > >> and I now consider it a "dead" piece. > > > > Yes, may it rest in peace. People either associate this with Dracula = and > > the organ, or the only Bach piece they know (and then proceed to horr= ibly > > "sing" the opening phrase of the toccata. > > > > I learned this piece fairly early on as well, and while I still play = it > > occasionally, I cannot bear to listen to it anymore. > > > > Cindy, I really would find something less popular, but by all means c= hoose > > Bach [1] if you wish. You might enjoy the harmony of the other fugues= a > > bit more than BWV 565. > > > > Regarding the practice organ - if you go down the electronic route - = I > > only need to point to this list the variety of organs you will encoun= ter > > (vis a vis action, pedal arrangements etc), and that your practice or= gan > > will unlikely be able to simulate all these differences, especially t= he > > sound that is produced - unless you live in a great hall or church. T= he > > point is, be aware of the differences - use the practice organ to dev= elop > > a solid practical base. > > > >> Many of Bach's Preludes and Fugue > >> bear names, such as "The St. Anne", "The Wedge", and so on. I've en= titied > >> the d minor "The Ubiquitous", or the "The Overworked". > > > >> DeserTBoB > > > > [1] Of course, here's another opportunity to mention, yet again that > > questions regarding the authenticity of this work [BWV 565] > > have been raised... > > > > Mark. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed > > From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:02:32 +0800 > > > > Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in t= he > > two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another. > > Bob Elms. > > > >> > >> << I am starting up an egroup for organists, students, > >> teachers, etc. Does anyone have ideas for a name for > >> our group? Thanks. >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed > > From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:04:15 +0800 > > > > What about > > organ STOP!! > > BE. > > Louis Katz wrote: > >> > >> Organ Depot > >> > >> Organ Nation > >> > >> Organophilia > >> > >> Piperzine > >> > >> Louis > >> > >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topi= cs > >> HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed > > From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:35:25 -0600 > > > > At 9:02 PM +0800 3/16/01, Bob Elms wrote: > >>Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in t= he > >>two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another. > > > > Bob > > > > I have to agree with you on this one. > > > > Cindy - i am saying this not as the owner of this list but as a > > general subscriber to several of the organ related mailing lists on > > the net. I personally don't think we need another one. There are > > numerous lists, several of which have been around for some period of > > time and have rather high traffic as it is from time to time. There > > have also been a whole bunch of other lists that have been started > > and fizzled out after a short period of time. The major lists are > > PIPORG-L, the "grand-daddy" of the mailing lists having started back > > in something like 1993, PipeChat which has been around for about 5 > > years now, and Organchat, which is either 2 or 3 years old. There > > are also the Theatreorgans list for those interested in theatre > > organs and the EORG-L list for those interested in discussing > > electronic organs. > > > > I personally think with these major lists that the field is covered > > rather completely. There are a couple of other "specialized" lists > > that also exist but those are of a very highly defined subject area > > and are usually only open by invitation only to select members. But > > these lists that I mentioned above basically cover the whole spectrum > > of our field. > > > > I gather that you are fairly new on this list and after discovering > > it thought you would like to start your own. One word of warning, if > > you do start a list be prepared to spend LOTS of time administering > > it!! You will surprised how much time it takes to deal with all the > > problems that running a list entails. Plus you have to be available > > at all times to deal with the problems. I am currently writing this > > from a motel room in Dallas where we are installing a new organ, I > > work for a pipe organ builder, and have been on-line and dealing with > > things like bounced mail, etc for a couple of hours. And I know that > > there will be more that I will have to do when i get back to my room > > tonight. Having done this for several years, I have it down to a > > routine but it still does take time. Just something to think about > > before you start another list. > > > > Have a great day everyone and sorry to have made this so long > > especially during a period of high traffic on this list. > > > > David > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > > From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:30:00 -0800 (PST) > > > > Good point! It took me years to learn to read music. > > (I started lessons at 4)I guess I did play by ear at > > one time since i had a piano > > teacher who would hum along as I played....I just > > listened to her as i didn't have a clue as to what the > > notes were!!!! > > > > Cindy, who is going to start trying to play by ear > > more. > > > > > > >> Whatever your current state - if you want to play by > >> ear - just do it. > >> > >> The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next > >> couple of years it > >> will improve. > >> > >> But then again - how long did it take you to learn > >> to read music? > >> > >> -- > >> KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com > >> http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com > >> See our new video - > >> 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails' > >> > >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > >> organs & related topics > >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >> > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Cindy > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue > > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:57:00 -0500 > > > > Cindy....I'm not making fun of you. You only think that because Bob s= aid > > something about the titles I wrote. Anyway, enough about him......... > > > > If you don't know them, you might want to look into them. It seems od= d (to > > me) that you'd want to learn the toccata & fugue in d minor, which is > > grossly overplayed, and not some of the others....which are too at ti= mes > > overplayed. Oh, what the heck......you pick the pieces you want, rega= rdless > > of what any of us say <G> > > > > Carlo > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: playing by ear > > From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:05:45 EST > > > > > > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > As for little students, they should not look at their hands, but rely= on > > tactile memory to find keys. Same with the feet. Especially when RE= ADING > > music. > > > > Performing a recital is another story. In church and in recital, I g= enerally > > play from memory. While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not sure I can = say I'm > > actually looking at them. I tend to see the music. > > > > That's just me. > > > > Neil > > > > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for little stud= ents, they > > should not look at their hands, but rely on > > <BR>tactile memory to find keys. &nbsp;Same with the feet. &nbsp;Espe= cially > > when READING > > <BR>music. &nbsp; > > <BR> > > <BR>Performing a recital is another story. &nbsp;In church and in rec= ital, > > I generally > > <BR>play from memory. &nbsp;While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not su= re I > > can say I'm > > <BR>actually looking at them. &nbsp;I tend to see the music. > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; > > <BR> > > <BR>That's just me. > > <BR> > > <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML> > > > > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary-- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Info. on Organ in MO > > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:16:04 EST > > > > > > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > In a message dated 3/16/01 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, > > jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: > > > > > >> I work for Quimby Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for= around > >> twenty years. The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dating from= 1931, > >> and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwood = Gardens > >> instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. The c= hurch, > >> alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it, an= d as the > >> leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to patc= h it up > >> and keep it going. > > > > I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that the= re > > should be some way that a reputable service organization could take a= n organ > > like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. = After > > all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly or i= t will > > be discarded. I realize that service organizations need to make a l= iving, > > but isn't there any room for charity? > > > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > > > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated= 3/16/01 > > 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, > > <BR>jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I work for Qu= imby > > Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for around > > <BR>twenty years. &nbsp;The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dat= ing from > 1931, > > <BR>and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwo= od > Gardens > > <BR>instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. &nb= sp;The > church, > > <BR>alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it,= and as > the > > <BR>leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to p= atch it > up > > <BR>and keep it going. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 > > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> > > <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" > LANG=3D"0"> > > <BR>I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that= there > > <BR>should be some way that a reputable service organization could ta= ke an > organ > > <BR>like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. > > &nbsp;&nbsp;After > > <BR>all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly = or it > will > > <BR>be discarded. &nbsp;&nbsp;I realize that service organizations ne= ed to > > make a living, > > <BR>but isn't there any room for charity? > > <BR> > > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nb= sp; > > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohaw= ow!" > > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at > > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> > > > > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary-- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > > From: <StatRussell@aol.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:18:10 EST > > > > > > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Boy howdy!!! I go away for the night and you all are just cranking o= ut the > > mail!! This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a tasteful= , > > diverse and well prepared program? Also, what's wrong with a few bar= s of "In > > a Gadda da Vida"? That's like "Toccata & Fugue in Dm" for rock organ > > players!!! Cool stuff!!! Have fun with it John. Relax and enjoy. = You > > won't be bored, that's for sure!!!! > > > > Dennis > > > > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Boy howdy!!! &nbsp= ;I go away > > for the night and you all are just cranking out the > > <BR>mail!! &nbsp;This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a > tasteful, > > <BR>diverse and well prepared program? &nbsp;Also, what's wrong with = a few > > bars of "In > > <BR>a Gadda da Vida"? &nbsp;That's like "Toccata &amp; Fugue in Dm" f= or rock > organ > > <BR>players!!! &nbsp;Cool stuff!!! &nbsp;Have fun with it John. &nbsp= ;Relax > > and enjoy. &nbsp;You > > <BR>won't be bored, that's for sure!!!! > > <BR> > > <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML> > > > > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary-- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01 > > From: <StatRussell@aol.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:20:08 EST > > > > > > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Neil, diddle on buddy!! Go ahead!! > > > > Dennis > > > > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Neil, diddle on bu= ddy!! > > &nbsp;Go ahead!! > > <BR> > > <BR>Dennis </FONT></HTML> > > > > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary-- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Practice Organ Options > > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:10 EST > > > > > > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > In a message dated 3/16/01 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, caskie@totali= se.co.uk > > writes: > > > > > >> Here in Edinburgh we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to t= he > >> public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a former= church > >> (closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community > >> centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father Wi= llis > >> 3-man 32-stop tracker, > > > > Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? Sounds wonderful. > > > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > > > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated= 3/16/01 > > 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, caskie@totalise.co.uk > > <BR>writes: > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Here in Edinb= urgh > > we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to the > > <BR>public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a for= mer > church > > <BR>(closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community > > <BR>centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father= Willis > > <BR>3-man 32-stop tracker, </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 > > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> > > <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FAC= E=3D"Arial" > LANG=3D"0"> > > <BR>Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? &nbsp;&nbsp;Sounds wonderful. > > <BR> > > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nb= sp; > > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohaw= ow!" > > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at > > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> > > > > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary-- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Help! My Cup Runneth Over!! > > From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:23:04 -0800 (PST) > > > > Hi List- > > > > Please someone tell me the address i need to switch > > over to read the archives. My box is going to close > > down with all of these wonderful messages! :-) > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Cindy > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 > > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:25:39 -0500 > > > > speaking of a 'rock' version of the toccata and fugue in d minor....I= did a > > benefit concert once with Vanessa Mae, and she played a 'rock' versio= n of > > it.....very nice!!! > > > > Carlo > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" > > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:27:02 EST > > > > > > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > In a message dated 3/16/01 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@sv= s.net > > writes: > > > > > >> Improvising is diddling around with a well-known tune in different = tempos, > >> rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. > >> > >> Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a rec= ital > >> from the top of ones' head -sans sheet music. > >> > > > > I would vote for wrong! > > > > Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. It's explor= ing the > > resources of the performer and the instrument. Improvising is prima= rily all > > new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although thi= s is > > more commonly associated with "diddling!!" ;-) > > > > Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response to t= he > > question, "Could you hum a few bars?" > > > > > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > > > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated= 3/16/01 > > 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@svs.net > > <BR>writes: > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Improvising i= s > > diddling around &nbsp;with a well-known tune in different tempos, > > <BR>rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. > > <BR> > > <BR>Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a = recital > > <BR>from the top of ones' head &nbsp;-sans sheet music. > > <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> > > <BR> > > <BR>I would vote for wrong! > > <BR> > > <BR>Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. > > &nbsp;&nbsp;It's exploring the > > <BR>resources of the performer and the instrument. &nbsp;&nbsp;Improv= ising > > is primarily all > > <BR>new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although= this is > > <BR>more commonly associated with "diddling!!" &nbsp;;-) > > <BR> > > <BR>Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response = to the > > <BR>question, "Could you hum a few bars?" > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nb= sp; > > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohaw= ow!" > > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at > > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> > > > > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary-- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > End of PipeChat Digest > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topic= s > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org