PipeChat Digest #1908 - Friday, March 16, 2001
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #1906 - 03/16/01
  by "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1906 - 03/16/01 From: "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:05:59 -0600   Thanks for the note.   I appreciate your help.   Sincerely,   Tom Gregory -- Thomas and Patricia Gregory 716 West College Avenue Waukesha WI USA 53186-4569   ---------- >From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: PipeChat Digest #1906 - 03/16/01 >Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2001, 12:14 PM >   > PipeChat Digest #1906 - Friday, March 16, 2001 > > Re: Practice organs > by <quilisma@socal.rr.com> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Practice organs > From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:11:26 -0800 > > Look in the basements of big old RC churches that used to have Mass in th= e "lower > church" and the "upper church" ... those that couldn't afford pipe organs= (or > didn't have the ceiling height for them) in the basement church often had > two-manual reed organs instead. > > And/or go to "Reed Organs for Sale" on Theatre Organ Classifieds at > > http://barton.theatreorgans.com/adsearch.asp > > And if you see one out west, LET ME KNOW (grin). > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > > Patricia/Thomas Gregory wrote: > >> Speaking of practice organs, I am searching for a late model two manual >> "Testy Estey" reed organ in the Milwaukee/Chicago area. >> >> Any leads? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom Gregory >> -- >> Thomas and Patricia Gregory >> 716 West College Avenue >> Waukesha WI USA >> 53186-4569 >> >> ---------- >> >From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >> >Subject: PipeChat Digest #1900 - 03/16/01 >> >Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2001, 9:32 AM >> > >> >> > PipeChat Digest #1900 - Friday, March 16, 2001 >> > >> > RE: Practice Organ Options >> > by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> >> > RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals >> > by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> >> > Re: Speaking up >> > by "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDi= gital >> > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" >> > by "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> >> > RE: Samford Univ./Alabama >> > by "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com> >> > Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue >> > by "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> >> > Re: Creative Name Needed >> > by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> >> > Re: Creative Name Needed >> > by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> >> > Re: Creative Name Needed >> > by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> >> > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" >> > by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> >> > Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue >> > by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> >> > Re: playing by ear >> > by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> >> > Re: Info. on Organ in MO >> > by <Cremona502@cs.com> >> > Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 >> > by <StatRussell@aol.com> >> > Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01 >> > by <StatRussell@aol.com> >> > Re: Practice Organ Options >> > by <Cremona502@cs.com> >> > Help! My Cup Runneth Over!! >> > by "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> >> > Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 >> > by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> >> > Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" >> > by <Cremona502@cs.com> >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: RE: Practice Organ Options >> > From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:26 -0000 >> > >> >>>insist on keeping the former sanctuary at baking >> >>>heat 24-hrs a day.<snip> >> > >> >>Of course, everything's relative. In "Merrie Olde" and environs, it s= eems >> >>anything about 10=B0C is "baking hot"! >> > >> > Merrie Olde refers to England - you're on thin ice! Lucky you mentione= d >> > environs - Scotland might just come into that...! All is then forgiven= ! >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals >> > From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:10:29 -0000 >> > >> > Yes, I heard the Widor recording, and it was strikingly slow. But in a >> > resonant acoustic it seemed OK. Has anyone heard Carlo Curley playing = this? >> > It's...well...ridiculous! >> > >> > Andrew >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of >> > Rebekah Ingram >> > Sent: 16 March 2001 03:12 >> > To: PipeChat >> > Subject: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> >> > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:39 PM >> > Subject: Fw: toward a theology of organ recitals >> > >> > >> >> Good going, Bob. At least the guys at Indy's Paramount Music Palace = (a >> >> pizza joynt) kept Widor in proper tempo. >> > >> > I heard a recording of Widor playing his own Toccata and it was >> > ssssslllllloooooowwwwww. Granted, I've probably heard Anthony Newman p= lay it >> > a few too many times, but I never would have thought from the "buoyanc= y" of >> > the music that Widor himself would have played it as such. >> > >> > Mayhaps he was still being influenced by Schweitzer. ;-) >> > >> > Anyone else heard this recording? Comments? >> > >> > >> > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Speaking up >> > From: "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital.c= om> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:22:57 +0500 >> > >> > Daniel Roth has released at least one disc from Saint Sulpice. Check = the >> > OHS catalog at http://www.ohscatalog.org. >> > >> > At 12:56 AM 3/16/2001 -0800, you wrote: >> >>I recently heard a recording of the [new?] Fisk instrument in Ben????? >> >>Hall in Seattle. In the past I have generally been favorably impressed >> >>with Fisk instruments but this one sounded ---well, less than impressi= ve. >> >>It sounded rather "leathery" (??) Was it the acoustics of the hall or = the >> >>voicing -- or both? But I find this to be true of most "concert hall" >> >>instruments vs "church" instruments. Acoustics?? It really sounded qui= te >> >>horrible, frankly. >> >> >> >>If I may add a second topic (I don't contribute that often.) I recentl= y >> >>played my old 33&1/3 "LPs" of Marcel Dupre playing Bach on "his" >> >>Caville-Coll instrument at St. Sulpice in Paris. It has been quite a w= hile >> >>since I heard these recordings (collector's items now, I understand) a= nd I >> >>was supervised at how "refreshing" they sounded. -- that is, the organ= , >> >>the acoustic and Dupre's style of playing Bach. What a beautiful >> >>instrument! These (Mercury label) recordings must be from the late 50= 's >> >>and I bought them soon after their first release. The sound is gorgeou= s >> >>(even with the tape hiss). Is this instrument still in top-notch shap= e? >> >> >> >>The sound of (what I assume to be) the 8' Montre is -- played alone in= one >> >>of two cuts -- just plain beautiful! And although I may quibble with >> >>Dupre's idea of Bach in one or two instances, (tempi, fingering, >> >>registration) the overall effect is marvelous. Bach with a definite Fr= ench >> >>accent but oh, so nice. >> >> >> >>I purchased these records when I was a freshman in college (1961) and = they >> >>then represented a substantial amount of my "pocket money." I used to >> >>listen to them over rather inexpensive headphones (thanks to an intole= rant >> >>roommate) and they brought me hours of pleasure. Perhaps some of their >> >>appeal today is the happy memories they bring back. (There is one cut >> >>where two stops are so out of tune with each other that is >> >>"quaint"!) Are there any current recordings of this instrument >> >>available -- preferably playing Bach, but French masters will do as we= ll? >> >> >> >>Thus ends my quarterly post to this fine group. >> >> >> >>Dave Pitzer >> >>California >> >> >> >>Dave Pitzer >> >> >> >> >> >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > --------------------------- >> > Len Beyersdorfer >> > MARATHON Digital Publishing >> > Marlboro, Massachusetts >> > LenB@MDigital.com >> > 508-460-6172 >> > --------------------------- >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" >> > From: "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:33:24 -0600 >> > >> > As a general comment from a musical illiterate (I play by ear and read >> > with great difficulty). (Not directed as a response to anyone in >> > particular - expect those who believe playing by ear is a gift.) >> > Perhaps people learn to play by ear because they are so anxious to hea= r >> > the music that they won't take the time to learn to read notes. Of >> > course, later - the people who read music excel while the person playi= ng >> > by ear wishes they'd taken the time learn. >> > >> > Whatever your current state - if you want to play by ear - just do it. >> > >> > The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next couple of years it >> > will improve. >> > >> > But then again - how long did it take you to learn to read music? >> > >> > -- >> > KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com >> > http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com >> > See our new video - >> > 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails' >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: RE: Samford Univ./Alabama >> > From: "Mark L. Hopper" <mahopper1999@yahoo.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:51:29 -0600 >> > >> > Randy wrote: >> > >> > 15 Rank Von Beckerath in small recital hall >> > large 2 manual Schlicker in middle recital hall >> > BIG 50 rank Whiteford Aeolian Skinner in the campus Church >> > 25-30 rank 2 man. in Beeson Chapel - newest campus organ >> > Several tracker (Beckeraths) and Holtkamp martinis to practice on. >> > Big Carillon in tower >> > >> > ***** >> > >> > Hi List! >> > >> > I am a staff accompanist in the Samford School of Music and finished m= y MM >> > in Church Music and Organ recently at Samford. To supplement what Ran= dy has >> > listed, Our Beeson Chapel organ is a 25-rank Letorneau with the most >> > gorgeous cherry casework you have ever seen. Unfortunately, it is a m= ild >> > tonal disappointment. >> > >> > The Aeolian-Skinner in Reid Chapel is a 1968 41-rank instrument that i= s >> > listed as a Joe Whiteford opus, but it actually was one of the first >> > instruments that Don Gillette finished for Skinner. >> > >> > The 2-Manual 24-rank Schlicker is in the 2,000 seat concert hall (Wrig= ht >> > Center). It was removed as a case instrument in 1998 and reinstalled = in a >> > swallows nest configuration in 1999. It is a small instrument, but it= is >> > scaled in colossal proportions. Originally intended for accompanying >> > congregational singing at the AL Baptist State Conventions, the 8' Gt >> > principal is almost adequate for accompanying that many voices! >> > >> > We have one Beckerath practice organ (4 ranks) and one Holtkamp Martin= i. >> > >> > I'm glad to know someone is interested in us! >> > >> > Mark >> > mahopper@bigfoot.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue >> > From: "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> >> > Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:03:37 +1100 (EST) >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Bob Scarborough wrote: >> > >> >> At 09:18 PM 3/15/2001 -0800, you wrote: >> >> >Hi- >> >> > >> >> >I like a challenge and my goal is to learn "Toccata >> >> >and Fugue in D Minor. i have had one lesson! Am I crazy or >> >> >what?<snip> >> >> >> >> You're a ways off from that just yet, but I did it in my first year recital >> >> as a little shaver. It was horrendously overplayed from the '40s onw= ard >> >> and I now consider it a "dead" piece. >> > >> > Yes, may it rest in peace. People either associate this with Dracula a= nd >> > the organ, or the only Bach piece they know (and then proceed to horri= bly >> > "sing" the opening phrase of the toccata. >> > >> > I learned this piece fairly early on as well, and while I still play i= t >> > occasionally, I cannot bear to listen to it anymore. >> > >> > Cindy, I really would find something less popular, but by all means ch= oose >> > Bach [1] if you wish. You might enjoy the harmony of the other fugues = a >> > bit more than BWV 565. >> > >> > Regarding the practice organ - if you go down the electronic route - I >> > only need to point to this list the variety of organs you will encount= er >> > (vis a vis action, pedal arrangements etc), and that your practice org= an >> > will unlikely be able to simulate all these differences, especially th= e >> > sound that is produced - unless you live in a great hall or church. Th= e >> > point is, be aware of the differences - use the practice organ to deve= lop >> > a solid practical base. >> > >> >> Many of Bach's Preludes and Fugue >> >> bear names, such as "The St. Anne", "The Wedge", and so on. I've ent= itied >> >> the d minor "The Ubiquitous", or the "The Overworked". >> > >> >> DeserTBoB >> > >> > [1] Of course, here's another opportunity to mention, yet again that >> > questions regarding the authenticity of this work [BWV 565] >> > have been raised... >> > >> > Mark. >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed >> > From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:02:32 +0800 >> > >> > Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in th= e >> > two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another. >> > Bob Elms. >> > >> >> >> >> << I am starting up an egroup for organists, students, >> >> teachers, etc. Does anyone have ideas for a name for >> >> our group? Thanks. >> >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed >> > From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:04:15 +0800 >> > >> > What about >> > organ STOP!! >> > BE. >> > Louis Katz wrote: >> >> >> >> Organ Depot >> >> >> >> Organ Nation >> >> >> >> Organophilia >> >> >> >> Piperzine >> >> >> >> Louis >> >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topic= s >> >> HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org >> >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed >> > From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:35:25 -0600 >> > >> > At 9:02 PM +0800 3/16/01, Bob Elms wrote: >> >>Phew! Another?? I have just sifted through the 24 hours of posts in th= e >> >>two groups I subscribe to. There were 132. Think I'll pass on another. >> > >> > Bob >> > >> > I have to agree with you on this one. >> > >> > Cindy - i am saying this not as the owner of this list but as a >> > general subscriber to several of the organ related mailing lists on >> > the net. I personally don't think we need another one. There are >> > numerous lists, several of which have been around for some period of >> > time and have rather high traffic as it is from time to time. There >> > have also been a whole bunch of other lists that have been started >> > and fizzled out after a short period of time. The major lists are >> > PIPORG-L, the "grand-daddy" of the mailing lists having started back >> > in something like 1993, PipeChat which has been around for about 5 >> > years now, and Organchat, which is either 2 or 3 years old. There >> > are also the Theatreorgans list for those interested in theatre >> > organs and the EORG-L list for those interested in discussing >> > electronic organs. >> > >> > I personally think with these major lists that the field is covered >> > rather completely. There are a couple of other "specialized" lists >> > that also exist but those are of a very highly defined subject area >> > and are usually only open by invitation only to select members. But >> > these lists that I mentioned above basically cover the whole spectrum >> > of our field. >> > >> > I gather that you are fairly new on this list and after discovering >> > it thought you would like to start your own. One word of warning, if >> > you do start a list be prepared to spend LOTS of time administering >> > it!! You will surprised how much time it takes to deal with all the >> > problems that running a list entails. Plus you have to be available >> > at all times to deal with the problems. I am currently writing this >> > from a motel room in Dallas where we are installing a new organ, I >> > work for a pipe organ builder, and have been on-line and dealing with >> > things like bounced mail, etc for a couple of hours. And I know that >> > there will be more that I will have to do when i get back to my room >> > tonight. Having done this for several years, I have it down to a >> > routine but it still does take time. Just something to think about >> > before you start another list. >> > >> > Have a great day everyone and sorry to have made this so long >> > especially during a period of high traffic on this list. >> > >> > David >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" >> > From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:30:00 -0800 (PST) >> > >> > Good point! It took me years to learn to read music. >> > (I started lessons at 4)I guess I did play by ear at >> > one time since i had a piano >> > teacher who would hum along as I played....I just >> > listened to her as i didn't have a clue as to what the >> > notes were!!!! >> > >> > Cindy, who is going to start trying to play by ear >> > more. >> > >> > > >> >> Whatever your current state - if you want to play by >> >> ear - just do it. >> >> >> >> The first time it sounds pretty bad - over the next >> >> couple of years it >> >> will improve. >> >> >> >> But then again - how long did it take you to learn >> >> to read music? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com >> >> http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com >> >> See our new video - >> >> 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails' >> >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital >> >> organs & related topics >> >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > Cindy >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >> > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Setting Goals-Toccata and Fugue >> > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:57:00 -0500 >> > >> > Cindy....I'm not making fun of you. You only think that because Bob sa= id >> > something about the titles I wrote. Anyway, enough about him......... >> > >> > If you don't know them, you might want to look into them. It seems odd= (to >> > me) that you'd want to learn the toccata & fugue in d minor, which is >> > grossly overplayed, and not some of the others....which are too at tim= es >> > overplayed. Oh, what the heck......you pick the pieces you want, regar= dless >> > of what any of us say <G> >> > >> > Carlo >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: playing by ear >> > From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:05:45 EST >> > >> > >> > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > As for little students, they should not look at their hands, but rely = on >> > tactile memory to find keys. Same with the feet. Especially when REA= DING >> > music. >> > >> > Performing a recital is another story. In church and in recital, I generally >> > play from memory. While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not sure I can s= ay I'm >> > actually looking at them. I tend to see the music. >> > >> > That's just me. >> > >> > Neil >> > >> > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for little students,= they >> > should not look at their hands, but rely on >> > <BR>tactile memory to find keys. &nbsp;Same with the feet. &nbsp;Espec= ially >> > when READING >> > <BR>music. &nbsp; >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Performing a recital is another story. &nbsp;In church and in reci= tal, >> > I generally >> > <BR>play from memory. &nbsp;While my eyes are on my hands, I'm not sur= e I >> > can say I'm >> > <BR>actually looking at them. &nbsp;I tend to see the music. >> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; >> > <BR> >> > <BR>That's just me. >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML> >> > >> > --part1_be.11672e33.27e385c9_boundary-- >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Info. on Organ in MO >> > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:16:04 EST >> > >> > >> > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > In a message dated 3/16/01 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, >> > jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: >> > >> > >> >> I work for Quimby Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for around >> >> twenty years. The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dating from = 1931, >> >> and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwood Gardens >> >> instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. The ch= urch, >> >> alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it, and= as the >> >> leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to patch= it up >> >> and keep it going. >> > >> > I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that ther= e >> > should be some way that a reputable service organization could take an organ >> > like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. A= fter >> > all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly or it= will >> > be discarded. I realize that service organizations need to make a li= ving, >> > but isn't there any room for charity? >> > >> > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com >> > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" >> > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >> > >> > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/16= /01 >> > 1:37:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, >> > <BR>jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: >> > <BR> >> > <BR> >> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; >> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I work for Qui= mby >> > Pipe Organs who have been servicing this organ for around >> > <BR>twenty years. &nbsp;The instrument is a three-manual Aeolian, dati= ng from >> 1931, >> > <BR>and is probably -- in company with the Duke University and Longwoo= d >> Gardens >> > <BR>instruments -- one of the three finest Aeolians in existence. &nbs= p;The >> church, >> > <BR>alas, has not had a great deal of money to spend on restoring it, = and as >> the >> > <BR>leather reaches the end of its life it is a matter of trying to pa= tch it >> up >> > <BR>and keep it going. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 >> > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> >> > <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Aria= l" >> LANG=3D"0"> >> > <BR>I know this is probably a very naive statement, but it seems that = there >> > <BR>should be some way that a reputable service organization could tak= e an >> organ >> > <BR>like this on as a charity project just to preserve the instrument. >> > &nbsp;&nbsp;After >> > <BR>all, if you don't fix it properly, someone will do it improperly o= r it >> will >> > <BR>be discarded. &nbsp;&nbsp;I realize that service organizations nee= d to >> > make a living, >> > <BR>but isn't there any room for charity? >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbs= p; >> > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawo= w!" >> > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at >> > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> >> > >> > --part1_92.11bdc3ad.27e38834_boundary-- >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 >> > From: <StatRussell@aol.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:18:10 EST >> > >> > >> > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > Boy howdy!!! I go away for the night and you all are just cranking ou= t the >> > mail!! This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a tasteful, >> > diverse and well prepared program? Also, what's wrong with a few bars= of "In >> > a Gadda da Vida"? That's like "Toccata & Fugue in Dm" for rock organ >> > players!!! Cool stuff!!! Have fun with it John. Relax and enjoy. Y= ou >> > won't be bored, that's for sure!!!! >> > >> > Dennis >> > >> > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Boy howdy!!! &nbsp;I go= away >> > for the night and you all are just cranking out the >> > <BR>mail!! &nbsp;This one is for drawknob@aol.com, what constitutes a >> tasteful, >> > <BR>diverse and well prepared program? &nbsp;Also, what's wrong with a= few >> > bars of "In >> > <BR>a Gadda da Vida"? &nbsp;That's like "Toccata &amp; Fugue in Dm" fo= r rock >> organ >> > <BR>players!!! &nbsp;Cool stuff!!! &nbsp;Have fun with it John. &nbsp;= Relax >> > and enjoy. &nbsp;You >> > <BR>won't be bored, that's for sure!!!! >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML> >> > >> > --part1_31.11e14316.27e388b2_boundary-- >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1897 - 03/16/01 >> > From: <StatRussell@aol.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:20:08 EST >> > >> > >> > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > Neil, diddle on buddy!! Go ahead!! >> > >> > Dennis >> > >> > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Neil, diddle on buddy!! >> > &nbsp;Go ahead!! >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Dennis </FONT></HTML> >> > >> > --part1_16.a3fea16.27e38928_boundary-- >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Practice Organ Options >> > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:10 EST >> > >> > >> > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > In a message dated 3/16/01 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, caskie@totalise.co.uk >> > writes: >> > >> > >> >> Here in Edinburgh we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to th= e >> >> public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a former church >> >> (closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community >> >> centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father Wil= lis >> >> 3-man 32-stop tracker, >> > >> > Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? Sounds wonderful. >> > >> > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com >> > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" >> > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >> > >> > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/16= /01 >> > 2:32:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, caskie@totalise.co.uk >> > <BR>writes: >> > <BR> >> > <BR> >> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; >> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Here in Edinbu= rgh >> > we are very privileged to have an organ open 'to the >> > <BR>public' for free for practice. In the St. Stephen's Centre, a form= er >> church >> > <BR>(closed about 6 yrs ago) which is now being used as a community >> > <BR>centre/concert venue, there is a completely unaltered 1880 Father Willis >> > <BR>3-man 32-stop tracker, </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 >> > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> >> > <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Aria= l" >> LANG=3D"0"> >> > <BR>Any chance of seeing a stoplist?? &nbsp;&nbsp;Sounds wonderful. >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbs= p; >> > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawo= w!" >> > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at >> > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> >> > >> > --part1_8b.3c0e763.27e38966_boundary-- >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Help! My Cup Runneth Over!! >> > From: "Cindy Adams" <clavinova98@yahoo.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:23:04 -0800 (PST) >> > >> > Hi List- >> > >> > Please someone tell me the address i need to switch >> > over to read the archives. My box is going to close >> > down with all of these wonderful messages! :-) >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > Cindy >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >> > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1896 - 03/15/01 >> > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:25:39 -0500 >> > >> > speaking of a 'rock' version of the toccata and fugue in d minor....I = did a >> > benefit concert once with Vanessa Mae, and she played a 'rock' version= of >> > it.....very nice!!! >> > >> > Carlo >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" >> > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:27:02 EST >> > >> > >> > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > In a message dated 3/16/01 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@svs= ..net >> > writes: >> > >> > >> >> Improvising is diddling around with a well-known tune in different tempos, >> >> rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. >> >> >> >> Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a reci= tal >> >> from the top of ones' head -sans sheet music. >> >> >> > >> > I would vote for wrong! >> > >> > Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. It's explori= ng the >> > resources of the performer and the instrument. Improvising is primar= ily all >> > new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although this= is >> > more commonly associated with "diddling!!" ;-) >> > >> > Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response to th= e >> > question, "Could you hum a few bars?" >> > >> > >> > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com >> > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" >> > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >> > >> > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/16= /01 >> > 2:58:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, dutchorgan@svs.net >> > <BR>writes: >> > <BR> >> > <BR> >> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; >> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Improvising is >> > diddling around &nbsp;with a well-known tune in different tempos, >> > <BR>rhythms, arrangements, keys, etc. >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Playing by ear is sitting down cold to an instrument and doing a recital >> > <BR>from the top of ones' head &nbsp;-sans sheet music. >> > <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> >> > <BR> >> > <BR>I would vote for wrong! >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Improvising is essentially composing music on-the-spot. >> > &nbsp;&nbsp;It's exploring the >> > <BR>resources of the performer and the instrument. &nbsp;&nbsp;Improvi= sing >> > is primarily all >> > <BR>new, although it can involve (choke) hymn tune melodies, although = this is >> > <BR>more commonly associated with "diddling!!" &nbsp;;-) >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Playing by ear, is reproducing music already written in response t= o the >> > <BR>question, "Could you hum a few bars?" >> > <BR> >> > <BR> >> > <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbs= p; >> > <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawo= w!" >> > <BR>Visit Howling Acres at >> > &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML> >> > >> > --part1_f6.82932cf.27e38ac6_boundary-- >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > End of PipeChat Digest >> > >> > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > End of PipeChat Digest > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org