PipeChat Digest #1909 - Friday, March 16, 2001
 
Re: Playing by ear
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
RE: Practice Organ Options
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Faux Bach: Who dunnit?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
anthem request - F.F. Harper's "How Beautiful Are The Feet" (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: hilariter non licit in tempore Quadrigesimae
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Faux Bach: Who dunnit?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear"
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Glass Armonica
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Philip Moore Workshops & Evensong
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Practice Organ Options
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Organ Voicing
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear"
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Glass Armonica
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1903 - 03/16/01
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: hilariter non licit in tempore Quadrigesimae
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Creative Name Needed
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1904 - 03/16/01
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1906 - 03/16/01
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1906 - 03/16/01
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Creative Name Needed
  by "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net>
Re: Information on organ at Calvary Church?
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1903 - 03/16/01
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Playing by ear From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:16:32 -0500   Dear Jim, I have had the gift or curse of being able to play a piece of music after I heard it since I was a teen. I remember waiting for my = lesson outside of a practice room when I was about 15 and the girl taking the lesson was playing her Senior year recital piece,I believe it was some Pietro Yon tocatta with a lot of three note arpeggios in the right hand. = The Professor and the student both left to discuss the upcoming recital at her office. While they were gone, I proceeded to play what I could of the = piece by ear. When the professor came back she asked me where I got the music. = The student was a girl by the name of Moradian I believe and the site was the Fine Arts Building of Marywood College. I call it a curse as well as a gift because as a gift I never had to buy pop music. As a curse, I lost the nuance of timing, speed reading = music or sight reading. I can read music but it takes me a lot of time. Ironically, after I learn the piece, I can play it (improvise) in a few different keys and then alter it in a major or minor key and a pseudo = fugue style. (I won't be so proud to claim a purist determination of that style) = I can still play the Moonlight Sonata, a fifth grade recital piece and a Chopin Polonaise from memory. After I was hit by a 18 wheeler, and retired, I decided to go back = to music and learn it properly.Unfortunately the hands,at 59 don't work as well, and I sometimes wind up inadvertently playing the left had in the pedals and the pedals in the left hand.If I sit too long on the organ = bench, my back aches. I'm not sorry that I didn't pursue music rather than engineering but I wish I had been more conscientious when I was a music student. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Playing by ear     > Hello to all, > > >From one who knows first hand, playing by ear can be a blessing as well as a > curse. I will completely agree that playing from memory and playing by ear > are not one in the same, not even close. Nor do I find improvisation, = in its > strictest sense, to be a form of playing by ear. > > Even as a child starting out on piano, I was cursed with a rather acute > musical ear. If I heard a composition, I could almost play it correctly the > second time from memory. This required a certain discipline to follow = the > notes of the score, something that few children have at such an early = age > (discipline). My teacher was not impressed with the >liberties< taken = in my > performances and, to her credit and my benefit, forced me into exercises > which were not altogether melodious, thus I had to follow the notes in order > to play the piece. > > Playing by ear was to emerge as an extreme benefit later in life when I chose > to follow commercial music. It allowed me to develop a unique style in > keyboard technique, both in piano and organ. Commercially, = cookie-cutter > musicians are a dime a dozen and usually are not in great demand. From = a > classical literature perspective, improvising or substituting from the > original score is not usually a thing warmly regarded. With this predicate I > concur totally. But being able to "compose and play on the fly" is also an > asset. I know musicians who can read like a fiend the most difficult score > and play it virtually in flawless manner the very first time, but could not > play "Happy Birthday" without notes in front of them. My impression of these > >technicians< is that they have been shortchanged along the way, = although I > still envy their sight reading capabilities. > > To those with the natural talent to hear the melody and harmony, thus being > able to develop a "play by ear" capability, by all means develop it and have > fun. However, do not allow such a talent to rob you of learning to read > music of all types. Inability to read music locks you in your own = closet and > closes the door to many joys that have been penned by great composers. > > Jim > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: Practice Organ Options From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:05:31 -0800   At 10:10 AM 3/16/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Merrie Olde refers to England - you're on thin ice! Lucky you mentioned >environs - Scotland might just come into that...! All is then = forgiven!<snip>   My apologies to William Wallace and his confederates!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: RE: Widor was Re: toward a theology of organ recitals From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:07:23 -0800   At 10:10 AM 3/16/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Has anyone heard Carlo Curley playing this?<snip>   Yes. Curley, over the years, has opted for the "Fox route", complete with =   cape. No word yet as to any electrically lit shoes, however.   dB    
(back) Subject: Faux Bach: Who dunnit? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:17:48 -0800   At 12:03 AM 3/17/2001 +1100, you wrote: >[1] Of course, here's another opportunity to mention, yet again that >questions regarding the authenticity of this work [BWV 565] >have been raised...<snip>   I've oft wondered this very issue. When one pores through the entire catalog of Bach's output, S. 565 rather "sticks out like a sore thumb", in =   terms of construction. I may be neglected a work here and there, but the methods used in the S. 565 Toccata are dissimilar to anything else he produced, raising a genuine question as to authenticity. I haven't kept = up on the latest musicological archeology regarding this, but I've heard = there are more than one Bach academic calling for its removal. A similar flap existed (continues?) over the "Eight Little Preludes and Fugues", which again, upon inspection, diverges from Bach's traditional constructive methods of composition sufficiently to pose questions.   Any practitioners of musicology care to comment?   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: anthem request - F.F. Harper's "How Beautiful Are The Feet" (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:54:43 -0800   I've had a request for F. Flaxington Harker's "How Beautiful Are the Feet" for an upcoming ordination ... I thought I had it, but I don't.   Can anyone fax me a copy?   THANKS!   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: RE: hilariter non licit in tempore Quadrigesimae From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:05:12 -0600   That would be "dried plum" face, Bud. Haven't you been following the = new marketing campaign? : - ) =20 Peter   -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:02 PM To: PipeChat Subject: hilariter non licit in tempore Quadrigesimae     =20   ScottFop@aol.com wrote:=20     LITURGICALLY yours <giggle>=20   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music=20 THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI=20 (Geo. Kilgen & Son, Opus 5180, 1933)=20 =E2&euro;oeCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens,=20 fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=E2&euro;=9D   Harumph! Speaking of liturgical revisionism, giggling is NOT allowed = during Lent at St. Matthew's=20   A Properly Penitentially Prune-Faced Bud=20 =20    
(back) Subject: Re: Faux Bach: Who dunnit? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:30:56 EST   Hi Bob;   You know what? Musicologists will fight this one out long after both you and I sprout daiseys. It says J.S. Bach on the cover. I believe know one knows for sure, but God. and You and I and the musicologists won't find out until Judgement Day, A Day Too Late! I know your comment is tongue in cheek, so is mine! :)   Ron Severin   PS I want to see the music rescued from the cheese and meat packers. J.S. Bach's boys were a little premature giving his music away as old fashioned to the local merchants to wrap up food. It makes one wonder if a few pieces contained fish and chips. :)  
(back) Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:33:00 EST     --part1_42.121c7349.27e3d27c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/16/01 5:29:56 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = clavinova98@yahoo.com writes:     > But can't you learn to play by ear? You can't learn > to have perfect pitch... > >   Both can be learned. Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_42.121c7349.27e3d27c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/16/01 5:29:56 PM !!!First Boot!!!, clavinova98@yahoo.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But can't you = learn to play by ear? You can't learn <BR>to have perfect pitch... <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Both can be learned. <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_42.121c7349.27e3d27c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Glass Armonica From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:39:34 EST   Hi Dennis:   I didn't just make that up! Discovery Channel did a documentry, And I've seen it in print about Harmonicas(Glass). Do you now use lead glass? There have been several threads regarding this in the media. Do they have a point or are they misleading the public? I have no axe to grind, I just made an observation. I'm ready to accept what ever you said, You sound like an authority, so if you say its safe then it's safe!   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Philip Moore Workshops & Evensong From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:49:43 EST     --part1_88.3c49d4e.27e3d667_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/16/01 5:51:32 PM !!!First Boot!!!, AMADPoet@aol.com writes:     > << The blame lies on women > who laid around for centuries doing nothing and not contributing = anything > to > music and worship. >> > >   I can't believe the fallacy in this statement has been completely = overlooked. Geesh! Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_88.3c49d4e.27e3d667_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/16/01 5:51:32 PM !!!First Boot!!!, AMADPoet@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&lt;&lt; The blame = lies on women <BR>who laid around for centuries doing nothing and not contributing = anything <BR>to <BR>music and worship. &gt;&gt; <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I can't believe the fallacy in this statement has been completely = overlooked. <BR>&nbsp;Geesh! <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_88.3c49d4e.27e3d667_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Practice Organ Options From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:51:27 EST     --part1_aa.128724c8.27e3d6cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/16/01 6:01:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!, pab@inreach.com writes:     > I already have two grand pianos in there and would like to compromise = with > an organ that has some pipes and the rest digital; full pedal board, of > course.   Then don't clutter up your diamond necklace with fakodigitoid stones. ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_aa.128724c8.27e3d6cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/16/01 6:01:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!, pab@inreach.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I already have two = grand pianos in there and would like to compromise with <BR>an organ that has some pipes and the rest digital; full pedal board, = of <BR>course. &nbsp;Some woman prefer diamonds.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Then don't clutter up your diamond necklace with fakodigitoid stones. = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_aa.128724c8.27e3d6cf_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Voicing From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:54:30 EST     --part1_22.134da74b.27e3d786_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I personally don't know of any voicers that do finishing with the same company. very often the finishing is done by the owner of a small = company. In large companies there are separate people for each stage of building.   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_22.134da74b.27e3d786_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I personally don't know = of any voicers that do finishing with the same <BR>company. &nbsp;very often the finishing is done by the owner of a = small company. &nbsp; <BR>In large companies there are separate people for each stage of = building. <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_22.134da74b.27e3d786_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Improvisation vs. playing "by ear" From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:41:26 -0500   Bruce......how can one 'learn' to play by ear? How can one 'learn' perfect pitch. Please tell me......   I've acquired perfect pitch after ear training, and I started off playing = by ear when I was kid.   Speaking of perfect pitch.....is that when you can name any pitch simply = by hearing it, singing a pitch if someone names one, or both?   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Glass Armonica From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:47:15 -0500   Ron, you've got to be right about the lead poisoning. It explains why there are organists, pianists, BUT NO GLASS HARMONICAISTS!   noel   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Dennis: > > I didn't just make that up! Discovery Channel did a documentry, > And I've seen it in print about Harmonicas(Glass). Do you > now use lead glass? There have been several threads regarding > this in the media. Do they have a point or are they misleading > the public? I have no axe to grind, I just made an observation. > I'm ready to accept what ever you said, You sound like an authority, > so if you say its safe then it's safe! > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1903 - 03/16/01 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:49:24 -0800   At 12:19 PM 3/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I thought we had finished with loyalty oaths when Joe McCarthy was=20 >censured.<snip>   The "Relgious Right" is extremism, as was McCarthyism, but of a more=20 nefarious kind. Witness the recent international crimes committed by the=20 Talaban in Afghanistan to the irreplaceable 5th and 6th century statues of= =20 Buddha. Also remember the actions of Shiite extremists against our=20 embassies and citizens in the last 25 years. These people are no=20 different, just a "different flavor". Many "fundie" churches have been=20 trashing organs, both piped and pipeless, in the last few years. Help is=20 on the way, however. Recent surveys state that a large majority of=20 Americans are becoming increasingly rankled at the antics of the "Religoius= =20 Right". For me, the backlash can't happen soon enough.   Of course, my ideal, which is to get historic, large instruments OUT of=20 churches entirely and into public concert venues, doesn't seem to catch on,= =20 due to the organ's current unpopularity. Instead, we get train wrecks like= =20 the upcoming Rosales/Glatter-G=F6tz at LA's Disney Hall, replete with "super= =20 scoop of fries" fa=E7ade by noted architectural failure, Frank Gehry. The= =20 problem here is obvious. Decisions are made by rich socialites, corporate= =20 types and politicians with no musical sensibilities at all, rather than by= =20 people who would know better. With corporate tax write-off booty and the=20 public trough to feed from, they bash about, unabated, and unaccountable to= =20 anyone.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: hilariter non licit in tempore Quadrigesimae From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:03:11 EST   Dominos et Checkers et iu watchum what you sayum  
(back) Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:02:07 -0500   "Yet one MORE organ group to try to keep track of ...."       On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:14:06 -0800 (PST) Cindy Adams <clavinova98@yahoo.com> writes: > Hi- > > I am starting up an egroup for organists, students, > teachers, etc. Does anyone have ideas for a name for > our group? Thanks. > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Cindy > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1904 - 03/16/01 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:56:49 -0800   At 01:11 PM 3/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: >The Jesse Helms reference was not all that misplaced. <snip> I know >there's change >going on there but it may be to late for some things to turn around in >time. >Hopefully, somebody will come to their senses there. <snip>   See??? Told ya....<ppbbtt!>   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1906 - 03/16/01 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:09:21 -0800   At 01:05 PM 3/16/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Thanks for the note. > >I appreciate your help. > >Sincerely, > >Tom Gregory<snip>   Could we PLEASE be a little more diligent at trimming our reply posts of unused text, especially ENTIRE digests???? This honker came in at a whopping 38 KBytes, and drove "Endora" nuts!   dB      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1906 - 03/16/01 From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:23:05 -0500   38 KB drove Eudora nuts? Sheesh..........   Carlo (Outlook Express 5.5 user, and loves it)    
(back) Subject: Re: Creative Name Needed From: "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:45:46 -0500   At 11:14 AM 03/15/2001, you wrote: >Hi- > >I am starting up an egroup for organists, students, >teachers, etc. Does anyone have ideas for a name for >our group? Thanks.     How about "OneTooManyOrganGroups"?   Lessee: There's the granddaddy of them all, piporg-l, there's PipeChat, there's OrganChat, there is a list for Anglican musicians and one for Methodists, there were two or three besides OrganChat on eGroups, there's = a fundamentalist one for church musicians sponsored by, I think, TMR, and there's threatreorgans-l. Those are the ones I'm aware of.... I'm sure there are more.   Trouble is, most of us sub to two or three of them and get to much mail as =   it is.   Why do you want to start another one, Cindy?   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Information on organ at Calvary Church? From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:48:41 EST     --part1_9f.12a1bb83.27e3f249_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Scott and friends, My youth and adult choirs share worship duties. So....   For this coming Sunday, my youth choir will sing in the a.m., Allan Pote's =   "Friends in the Lord" (a 100% unadulterated youth choir tune, but nice). BUT, in the p.m., they are doing a full-fledged traditional Lenten = Vespers with a "blended" mix of music from Gregorian to John Purifoy. It's = working beautifully. I'm so proud of them.   My adult choir will sing Peter Pindar Stearn's "We Walk by Faith". Then = the following 2 Sundays, they will do Gounod's "Sanctus" and then a wonderful arrangement of "On Holy Ground" done by Clayton White of the Philly area. =   Doesn't get anymore blended than that, but it also is great music.   Incidentally, for the Vespers, I'm doing what I call an organ canticle for =   the Magnificat. The congregation will read certain verses, with the organ =   doing versets. My music is the "Magnificat Secundi Toni" by that great composer, Anonymous. How they know it was written in 1614, I'll never know. LOL.   I think rather than lament the sad state of music in some churches, I'm = going to rejoice that there are those of us who wish to do something about it. Peace.   Neil B               --part1_9f.12a1bb83.27e3f249_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Scott and friends, = &nbsp;My youth and adult choirs share worship duties. So.... <BR> <BR>For this coming Sunday, my youth choir will sing in the a.m., Allan = Pote's <BR>"Friends in the Lord" (a 100% unadulterated youth choir tune, but = nice). &nbsp; <BR>BUT, &nbsp;in the p.m., they are doing a full-fledged traditional = Lenten Vespers <BR>with a "blended" mix of music from Gregorian to John Purifoy. = &nbsp;It's working <BR>beautifully. I'm so proud of them. <BR> <BR>My adult choir will sing Peter Pindar Stearn's "We Walk by Faith". = &nbsp;Then the <BR>following 2 Sundays, they will do Gounod's "Sanctus" and then a = wonderful <BR>arrangement of "On Holy Ground" done by Clayton White of the Philly = area. &nbsp; <BR>Doesn't get anymore blended than that, but it also is great music. = &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Incidentally, for the Vespers, I'm doing what I call an organ canticle = for <BR>the Magnificat. &nbsp;The congregation will read certain verses, with = the organ <BR>doing versets. &nbsp;My music is the "Magnificat Secundi Toni" by that = great <BR>composer, Anonymous. <BR>How they know it was written in 1614, I'll never know. LOL. <BR> <BR>I think rather than lament the sad state of music in some churches, = I'm going <BR>to rejoice that there are those of us who wish to do something about = it. &nbsp; <BR>Peace. <BR> <BR>Neil B <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_9f.12a1bb83.27e3f249_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1903 - 03/16/01 From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:51:01 EST     --part1_b0.11c8b702.27e3f2d5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Please, please, StatRussell, please don't scream it from the mountaintop. =   Please, please, use good vocal tone when proclaiming. It's so much = prettier that way <grin>.   When my college glee club visited Oral Roberts Univ, at the time, they had =   the largest pipe organ in the state of Okla, that Phelps/Wurlitzer combo gizmo thing. Only students and faculty of ORU could play. Same principle I suppose.   Neil B   --part1_b0.11c8b702.27e3f2d5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Please, please, = StatRussell, please don't scream it from the mountaintop. &nbsp; <BR>Please, please, use good vocal tone when proclaiming. &nbsp;It's so = much prettier <BR>that way &lt;grin&gt;. <BR> <BR>When my college glee club visited Oral Roberts Univ, at the time, they = had <BR>the largest pipe organ in the state of Okla, that Phelps/Wurlitzer = combo <BR>gizmo thing. <BR>Only students and faculty of ORU could play. &nbsp;Same principle I = suppose. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b0.11c8b702.27e3f2d5_boundary--