PipeChat Digest #1916 - Saturday, March 17, 2001
 
Re: Expression Pedal Order
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net>
Re: armonica
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Expression Pedal Order
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure?  Two chamber enclosure?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...)
  by "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Organ Gala--Jacksonville Symphony Orchestra
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Russian Organ music
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure?  Two chamber enclosure?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Expression Pedal Order From: "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:08:36 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0068_01C0AECA.3B178D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I've been ignoring this thread, but I feel like chiming in, now. A 1950 Moller in Texas had an expressive Great and Swell. In 1978, a =3D small company added some mixtures to it, some blatty reeds, and REMOVED = =3D the Great shades. I guess to make it more "baroque" or something. =3D Anyway, a chance to do some renovation on this organ came up last year, = =3D so the Great shades were replaced with new ones. They fit right in the = =3D old frame. The reeds were also made a little bit prettier, but as a result, this is = =3D a completely different organ, and a lot more fun to play now. Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com The Theatre Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com/theatre   Have you seen the Organ Classifieds? http://www.organclassifieds.com   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Cremona502@cs.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:15 AM Subject: Re: Expression Pedal Order     In a message dated 3/16/01 11:21:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, =3D organist@total.net=3D20 writes:=3D20       a 'great' expression pedal????=3D20   we're obviously NOT talking about pipe organs...........=3D20       Well, yes! It has happened. The three-manual Moller (1958ish) = at=3D20 Southside Baptist in Jacksonville FLorida, has (count 'em) FOUR =3D enclosed=3D20 divisions -- Great, Swell, Choir and Pedal. Swell shoes are from the = =3D right=3D20 to left Choir, Swell, Great, and there is a handy "All Swells to =3D Swell"=3D20 reversible so you can flap all the shutters with one shoe. Many =3D American=3D20 organs from the 40s and 50s had enclosed Great divisions, usually with = =3D the=3D20 choir to save nickels and dimes!=3D20   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com =3D20 with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, = Bohawow!"=3D20 Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0068_01C0AECA.3B178D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've been ignoring this thread, but I = =3D feel like=3D20 chiming in, now.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A 1950 Moller in Texas had an =3D expressive Great and=3D20 Swell.&nbsp; In 1978, a small company added some mixtures to it, some =3D blatty=3D20 reeds, and REMOVED the Great shades.&nbsp; I guess to make it more =3D "baroque" or=3D20 something.&nbsp; Anyway, a chance to do some renovation on this organ =3D came up=3D20 last year, so the Great shades were replaced with new ones.&nbsp; They =3D fit right=3D20 in the old frame.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The reeds were also made a little bit = =3D prettier, but=3D20 as a result, this is a completely different organ, and a lot more fun to = =3D play=3D20 now.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Brent Johnson<BR>The Organ Web =3D Ring<BR><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.organwebring.com">http://www.organwebring.com</A><BR>T= =3D he=3D20 Theatre Organ Web Ring<BR><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.organwebring.com/theatre">http://www.organwebring.com/= =3D theatre</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Have you seen the Organ =3D Classifieds?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.organclassifieds.com">http://www.organclassifieds.com<= =3D /A></FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DCremona502@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 17, 2001 = =3D 2:15=3D20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Expression Pedal = =3D Order</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>In a =3D message dated=3D20 3/16/01 11:21:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:organist@total.net">organist@total.net</A> = <BR>writes:=3D20 <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = =3D solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=3D20 TYPE=3D3D"CITE">a 'great' expression pedal???? <BR><BR>we're obviously = =3D NOT=3D20 talking about pipe organs........... <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D3 =3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D3D0=3D20 face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>Well, =3D yes! &nbsp;It has=3D20 happened. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The three-manual Moller (1958ish) at =3D <BR>Southside=3D20 Baptist in Jacksonville FLorida, has (count 'em) FOUR enclosed =3D <BR>divisions=3D20 -- Great, Swell, Choir and Pedal. &nbsp;&nbsp;Swell shoes are from the = =3D right=3D20 <BR>to left Choir, Swell, Great, and there is a handy "All Swells to =3D Swell"=3D20 <BR>reversible so you can flap all the shutters with one shoe.=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Many American <BR>organs from the 40s and 50s had =3D enclosed=3D20 Great divisions, usually with the <BR>choir to save nickels and dimes! = =3D   <BR><BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com = =3D &nbsp;=3D20 <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, =3D Bohawow!"=3D20 <BR>Visit Howling Acres at=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0068_01C0AECA.3B178D80--    
(back) Subject: Re: armonica From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:10:05 EST     --part1_6b.114bcc3c.27e4e65d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/17/01 1:53:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!, pab@inreach.com writes:     > I needed to do some research on the origin of the glass (h)armonica a = couple > years ago and found a great site at: http://finkenbeiner.bcn.net/ It > really put things in perspective for me to realize that Ben Franklin and > Mozart were alive at the same time. IIRC, Beethoven also wrote = something > for it, also. >   This is fascinating, but as I try to experiment with it, the olive keeps getting in the way!! ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_6b.114bcc3c.27e4e65d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/17/01 1:53:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!, pab@inreach.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I needed to do = some research on the origin of the glass (h)armonica a couple <BR>years ago and found a great site at: = &nbsp;http://finkenbeiner.bcn.net/ &nbsp;It <BR>really put things in perspective for me to realize that Ben Franklin = and <BR>Mozart were alive at the same time. &nbsp;IIRC, Beethoven also wrote = something <BR>for it, also. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>This is fascinating, but as I try to experiment with it, the olive = keeps <BR>getting in the way!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6b.114bcc3c.27e4e65d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Expression Pedal Order From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:11:30 EST     --part1_53.3bb03a5.27e4e6b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   In a message dated 3/17/01 2:21:02 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = RMaryman@aol.com=3D20 writes:     > > I've played mostly Casavants, Ruffattis, Beckeraths, = Guilbeault-Th=3DE9ri=3D ens, > > Fran=3DE7ois Carons.... > > =3D20 > > Carlo >=3D20   WHAT!!!!! No "Organs by Jack" ????? heeheeheehee Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com =3D20 with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_53.3bb03a5.27e4e6b2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 3/17/0=3D 1 2:21:02 PM !!!First Boot!!!, RMaryman@aol.com=3D20 <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt; &nbsp;I've played = most=3D ly Casavants, Ruffattis, Beckeraths, Guilbeault-Th=3DE9riens, <BR>&gt; &nbsp;Fran=3DE7ois Carons.... <BR>&gt; &nbsp; <BR>&gt; &nbsp;Carlo <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>WHAT!!!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;No "Organs by Jack" &nbsp;????? = &nbsp;heeheeheehee <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/<=3D /FONT></HTML>   --part1_53.3bb03a5.27e4e6b2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:14:27 EST     --part1_12.a37193d.27e4e763_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/17/01 2:33:17 PM !!!First Boot!!!, RMaryman@aol.com writes:     > . If I could build my own ideal instrument, it would ALL be > under expression.   But Rick, Don't you want to see any pipes??? For me that is a very important part = of playing the organ. I want and need that visual contact with what is producing the sound. In addition, I dearly love the presence of a = principal placed in the facade or just behind it.   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_12.a37193d.27e4e763_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/17/01 2:33:17 PM !!!First Boot!!!, RMaryman@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. If I could build = my own ideal instrument, it would ALL be <BR>under expression. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>But Rick, &nbsp; <BR>Don't you want to see any pipes??? &nbsp;&nbsp;For me that is a very = important part of <BR>playing the organ. &nbsp;I want and need that visual contact with what = is <BR>producing the sound. &nbsp;In addition, I dearly love the presence of = a principal <BR>placed in the facade or just behind it. <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12.a37193d.27e4e763_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...) From: "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:08:03 -0600     --------------384C19B9BFB3A3341EAD2554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I almost hate to jump into this fray -- but as an organ builder, I must say with all honesty, that the main reason for having exposed Great and Pedal organs is for looks. Any organ may be quite nicely voiced either with or without expression shades.   The notion that somehow the tone is "bruised" or whatever; by placing pipes behind expression shutters, is utter folly -- however, the organ business is made up largely of utter folly, caused by just such misinformation.   Although you can measure bits and pieces of "harmonic development" with highly accurate instruments in order to prove that portions of the spectrum are in some ways altered when placed behind such a device, the principal "accurate instrument" is the human ear -- which brings us, in the final run, to the main objective -- making the sound musical for the us humans -- which is precisely the mission of the tonal director, pipe maker, voicer, and tonal finisher. If they all perform their jobs properly, then shades are not an issue.   I do believe that the abilities to perform music well (not meant as "historically accurate", but rather, beautiful) are considerably enhanced by enabling the organist to vary the sound intensity of any division -- great, or otherwise. And, the smaller the organ, and the smaller the church, the more this is not only realized, but necessary. Those who would remain among the "flat earthers", by insisting upon unenclosed divisions, along with those who insist upon removing another valuable tool for voicers - i.e. the variable (known popularly as "closed") toe on pipes only succeed in depriving themselves, and others whom they influence, of a vast, marvelous arena of the tonal spectrum which is there for the taking.   It truly is sad!   There are situations when an exposed division is welcomed -- but, as stated in the opening paragraph, that has mainly to do with visual appeal. People like to see pipes. So the argument boils down essentially, to what is most important to the client: Visual appeal, or tonal variation?   Best wishes,   Tom Cotner Cotner - Pipe Organs Martha, OK, USA     > When I took up the post of principal organist and > director of music here three years ago the expression shades on the > main > Great had been removed for 30 years and the pneumatics in the > Antiphonal > Great were blown to the point that they would not operate. One of the > very > first things we did was to reinstall the Main great shades and, when > the time > came when the Antiphonal divisions were playing again, put new > expression > motors on those divisions. Lastly, please remember that those > enclosed Great > divisions are voiced so that, though under expression, they do not > suffer or > become "muffled" in the least. If one sat down and played the organ > and did > not know there were shades in both Great divisions, they would not > notice a > dull or quiet tone emitting from those chambers. I believe, as do > many > others, that a completely expressive instrument is wonderful and > certainly > increases the flexibility.   --------------384C19B9BFB3A3341EAD2554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I almost hate to jump into this fray -- but as an organ builder, I must say with all honesty, that the main reason for having exposed Great and Pedal organs is for looks.&nbsp; Any organ may be quite nicely voiced = either with or without expression shades. <p>The notion that somehow the tone is "bruised" or whatever; by placing pipes behind expression shutters, is utter folly -- however, the organ business is made up largely of utter folly, caused&nbsp; by just such = misinformation. <p>Although&nbsp; you can measure bits and pieces of "harmonic = development" with highly accurate instruments in order to&nbsp; prove&nbsp; that = portions of the spectrum are in some ways altered when placed behind such a = device,&nbsp;&nbsp; the principal "accurate instrument" is the human ear -- which brings us, in the final run, to the main objective -- making the sound&nbsp; musical for the us humans -- which is precisely the mission of the tonal director, pipe maker, voicer, and tonal finisher.&nbsp; If they all perform their jobs properly, then shades are not an issue. <p>I do believe that the abilities to perform music well (not meant as "historically accurate", but rather, beautiful) are considerably enhanced by enabling the organist to vary the sound intensity of any division -- great, or otherwise.&nbsp; And, the smaller the organ, and the smaller the church, the more this is not only realized, but necessary.&nbsp; Those who would remain among the "flat earthers", by insisting upon unenclosed divisions, along with those who insist upon removing another&nbsp; = valuable tool for voicers - i.e. the variable (known popularly as "closed") toe on pipes only succeed in depriving&nbsp; themselves, and others whom they influence, of a vast, marvelous arena of&nbsp; the tonal spectrum which is there for the taking. <p>It truly is sad! <p>There are situations when an exposed division is welcomed -- but, as stated in the opening paragraph, that has mainly to do with visual = appeal.&nbsp; People like to see pipes.&nbsp; So the argument boils down essentially, to what is most important to the client:&nbsp; Visual appeal, or tonal variation? <p>Best wishes, <p>Tom Cotner <br>Cotner - Pipe Organs <br>Martha, OK, USA <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+0>&nbsp; When I took up the post of principal organist and</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>director = of music here three years ago the expression shades on the = main</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>Great had = been removed for 30 years and the pneumatics in the = Antiphonal</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>Great = were blown to the point that they would not operate.&nbsp; One of the = very</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>first = things we did was to reinstall the Main great shades and, when the = time</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>came when = the Antiphonal divisions were playing again, put new = expression</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>motors on = those divisions.&nbsp; Lastly, please remember that those enclosed = Great</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>divisions = are voiced so that, though under expression, they do not suffer = or</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>become = "muffled" in the least.&nbsp; If one sat down and played the organ and = did</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>not know = there were shades in both Great divisions, they would not notice = a</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>dull or = quiet tone emitting from those chambers.&nbsp; I believe, as do = many</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>others, = that a completely expressive instrument is wonderful and = certainly</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+0>increases = the flexibility.</font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------384C19B9BFB3A3341EAD2554--    
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:46:23 -0500   In a message dated 3/17/01 11:14:27 EST Bruce writes:   <snip> Don't you want to see any pipes??? For me that is a very important part of playing the organ. I want and need that visual contact with what is producing the sound. <snip>   Mike Gettelman writes:   Has anyone ever created swell shades out of a transparent material--ie glass, plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate glare.    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Gala--Jacksonville Symphony Orchestra From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:54:07 EST     --part1_62.cc96440.27e4f0af_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/17/01 3:11:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, CdyVanpool@aol.com =   writes:     > I agree, we have good announcements of concerts, but it would also be = nice > to > have a review of them as well. > >   Hmm. Could it be that more people annouce than attend??? ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_62.cc96440.27e4f0af_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/17/01 3:11:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, CdyVanpool@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I agree, we have = good announcements of concerts, but it would also be nice <BR>to <BR>have a review of them as well. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Hmm. &nbsp;Could it be that more people annouce than attend??? = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_62.cc96440.27e4f0af_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Russian Organ music From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:55:00 EST   Hi Mandy:   The Orthodox Churches don't as a rule use organs. That doesn't mean to say there aren't some. They use accapella cantor and priest interplay response singing. A small choir sometimes with the cantor. Their worship focus is entirely different from the West.   Choir screens in English Cathedrals suggest that similar worship patterns prevailed there also once upon a time with priest and choir hidden from = the people. It was more Monastically oriented worship and the people were excluded from seeing the priest for most of the Mass   Their worship form has not significantly evolved since early times. It's like looking back through a time machine to the way things were done one or two millenia ago. The worship is very formal and very long. All the teaching is done through the readings in Greek or Russian.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:58:58 EST     --part1_64.c1dea46.27e4f1d2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Maestro Foppiano, We again thank and applaud you for supplying us with yet another tome on = the mighty Kilgen at the Shrine of etc, etc, and also for being so considerate = as to use huge print so that all of us in our declining years could read = without assistance.   We all stand and join in a collective ...... vomit! ;-)   Did you miss the nice man's tongue making his cheek "pooch out."   It was a joke, son.... a joke, that is!   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_64.c1dea46.27e4f1d2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Maestro Foppiano, <BR>We again thank and applaud you for supplying us with yet another tome = on the <BR>mighty Kilgen at the Shrine of etc, etc, and also for being so = considerate as <BR>to use huge print so that all of us in our declining years could read = without <BR>assistance. <BR> <BR>We all stand and join in a collective ...... &nbsp;&nbsp;vomit! = &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Did you miss the nice man's tongue making his cheek "pooch out." <BR> <BR>It was a joke, son.... a joke, that is! <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_64.c1dea46.27e4f1d2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:07:51 EST   Hi   Schoenstein built a stunning French Choir organ for an RC church in Los Angeles. Two expression boxes 11 ranks. Accoustics aplenty 4-6 seconds. You got to have that for any successful sounding organ. Dead rooms just never will cut it, I don't care which way you try to slice it!   A wooly tomb is still a wooly tomb! The organ never gets a chance to sing. This one sings and sings and sings.   Regards,   Ron Severin