PipeChat Digest #1917 - Saturday, March 17, 2001
 
Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Bach Festival At The National Shrine (x post)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Expression Pedal Order
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure?  Two chamber enclosure?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:22:07 EST     --part1_49.8dca434.27e4f73f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Regarding the huge print, I apologize and don't know why that happened- I = am not on my home computer currently. Regarding my latest "tome" (I believe that was the term used) on the mighty Kilgen (it's Grand Kilgen, by the = way) you're MORE than welcome and can be assured that we will continue to tout this very special and beautiful instrument as we here at the Shrine are justly proud of it. No applause necessary, but none the less appreciated. = It is sad that those who have not seen or heard it wouldn't understand or appreciate it, as evidenced. As for the rest of that, uh, "epistle-"   <flush>     In a message dated 3/17/01 12:00:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:   > Maestro Foppiano, > We again thank and applaud you for supplying us with yet another tome on =   > the > mighty Kilgen at the Shrine of etc, etc, and also for being so = considerate > as > to use huge print so that all of us in our declining years could read > without > assistance. > > We all stand and join in a collective ...... vomit! ;-) > > Did you miss the nice man's tongue making his cheek "pooch out." > > It was a joke, son.... a joke, that is! >       --part1_49.8dca434.27e4f73f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regarding the huge = print, I apologize and don't know why that happened- I am <BR>not on my home computer currently. &nbsp;Regarding my latest "tome" (I = believe <BR>that was the term used) on the mighty Kilgen (it's Grand Kilgen, by = the way) <BR>you're MORE than welcome and can be assured that we will continue to = tout <BR>this very special and beautiful instrument as we here at the Shrine = are <BR>justly proud of it. &nbsp;No applause necessary, but none the less = appreciated. &nbsp; <BR>It is sad that those who have not seen or heard it wouldn't understand = or <BR>appreciate it, as evidenced. &nbsp;As for the rest of that, uh, = "epistle-" <BR> <BR>&lt;flush&gt; <BR> <BR> <BR>In a message dated 3/17/01 12:00:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>Cremona502@cs.com writes: <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Maestro Foppiano, <BR>We again thank and applaud you for supplying us with yet another tome = on <BR>the <BR>mighty Kilgen at the Shrine of etc, etc, and also for being so = considerate <BR>as <BR>to use huge print so that all of us in our declining years could read <BR>without <BR>assistance. <BR> <BR>We all stand and join in a collective ...... &nbsp;&nbsp;vomit! = &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Did you miss the nice man's tongue making his cheek "pooch out." <BR> <BR>It was a joke, son.... a joke, that is! <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_49.8dca434.27e4f73f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:24:26 EST     --part1_3d.8e4cf41.27e4f7ca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/17/01 4:22:43 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = cotnerpo@brightok.net writes:     > I almost hate to jump into this fray -- but as an organ builder, I must = say > with all honesty, that the main reason for having exposed Great and = Pedal > organs is for looks.   In one breath I say it is good to have an organ builder jump into the = fray. It happens too infrequently. In another breath I must disagree with you. = Exposed divisions are not primarily for looks. With the exception of Holtkamp, most "exposed" Great divisions are ugly in their window boxes. = There is a difference in sound between a principal in the facade and one = in a chamber. Occasionally, when the rank is directly behind the shades, and those shades open completely, the hindrance in minimized, but the stop = still does not speak as it would in the facade. My ear tells me that pipes sound better when encased and unenclosed. This gives clarity AND blend. Chambers muffle and dull. Some builders are capable of using this to the =   advantage of the organ... all well and good. But that does not alter the =   fact of pipes placed properly within the organ case taking tonal advantage = of that position.   It is simply a difference in style and desired tonal result. One does = not necessarily make the other "bad", but simply different and an alternative.     Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_3d.8e4cf41.27e4f7ca_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/17/01 4:22:43 PM !!!First Boot!!!, cotnerpo@brightok.net <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I almost hate to = jump into this fray -- but as an organ builder, I must say <BR>with all honesty, that the main reason for having exposed Great and = Pedal <BR>organs is for looks. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>In one breath I say it is good to have an organ builder jump into the = fray. &nbsp; <BR>It happens too infrequently. &nbsp;&nbsp;In another breath I must = disagree with you. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Exposed divisions are not primarily for looks. &nbsp;&nbsp;With the = exception of <BR>Holtkamp, most "exposed" Great divisions are ugly in their window = boxes. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>There is a difference in sound between a principal in the facade and = one in a <BR>chamber. &nbsp;Occasionally, when the rank is directly behind the = shades, and <BR>those shades open completely, the hindrance in minimized, but the stop = still <BR>does not speak as it would in the facade. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My = ear tells me that pipes <BR>sound better when encased and unenclosed. &nbsp;This gives clarity AND = blend. &nbsp; <BR>Chambers muffle and dull. &nbsp;&nbsp;Some builders are capable of = using this to the <BR>advantage of the organ... all well and good. &nbsp;&nbsp;But that does = not alter the <BR>fact of pipes placed properly within the organ case taking tonal = advantage of <BR>that position. <BR> <BR>It is simply a difference in style and desired tonal result. = &nbsp;&nbsp;One does not <BR>necessarily make the other "bad", but simply different and an = alternative. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_3d.8e4cf41.27e4f7ca_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Bach Festival At The National Shrine (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:17:02 EST     --part1_5f.125cf824.27e4f60e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   There will be a musical festival honoring the works of Johann Sebastian = Bach tomorrow, Sunday, March 18, beginning at 4:00 pm. The performance will be =   held at the National Shrine of the little Flower Roman Catholic Church, Woodward Avenue at Twelve Mile Road, Royal Oak, Michigan.   The featured performers will include:   Charles Raines, Organist-Choirmaster of Christ Church, Cranbrook The Children's Choir of the First United Methodist Church, Royal Oak The Children's Choir of St. John's United Methodist Church, Clawson The Treble Choir of the National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak The Schola Cantorum of the National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak Vanessa Ferriole, soprano soloist/section leader of the Shrine Parish = Choir Members of the Orchestra of Kimball High School, Royal Oak Members of the Orchestra of Dondero High School, Royal Oak Scott Foppiano, Director of Music at the National Shrine of the Little = Flower Rob Abbott, Liturgical Music Assistant at the National Shrine of the = Little Flower The Rev. Monsignor William H. Easton, Pastor of The National Shrine The Harpsichord housed in the Shrine was built by George Butcher, 1986 = (exact copy of instrument built by Pascal Taskin, 1769, Paris) The National Shrine's Grand Organ was built by Geo. Kilgen and Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933   The repertoire to be performed will include:   Fugue in g minor ("Little") performed by Mr. Raines "Sicut Locutus Est" (from the Magnificat) performed by the Schola Cantorum "Liebster Jesu, wir send hier" performed by the combined choirs, = orchestras and the organ "Although both heart and eyes overflow" and "Lord, to Thee, my heart I proffer" performed by Mrs. Ferriole Concerto for strings and harpsichord performed by the combined orchestras with Mr. Abbott playing the harpsichord Toccata and Fugue in d minor performed by Mr. Foppiano   In addition, Monsignor Easton will give a talk discussing the features and =   beauty of the Shrine's unique and splendid Art Deco architecture.   The concert was planned by Carole Galli with cooperation and sponsorship = from the Royal Oak Arts Council and the National Shrine of the Little Flower.   There is no admission charge, a free will offering will be taken.         --part1_5f.125cf824.27e4f60e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>There will be a musical = festival honoring the works of Johann Sebastian Bach <BR>tomorrow, Sunday, March 18, beginning at 4:00 pm. &nbsp;The = performance will be <BR>held at the National Shrine of the little Flower Roman Catholic = Church, <BR>Woodward Avenue at Twelve Mile Road, Royal Oak, Michigan. <BR> <BR>The featured performers will include: <BR> <BR>Charles Raines, Organist-Choirmaster of Christ Church, Cranbrook <BR>The Children's Choir of the First United Methodist Church, Royal Oak <BR>The Children's Choir of St. John's United Methodist Church, Clawson <BR>The Treble Choir of the National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal = Oak <BR>The Schola Cantorum of the National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal = Oak <BR>Vanessa Ferriole, soprano soloist/section leader of the Shrine Parish = Choir <BR>Members of the Orchestra of Kimball High School, Royal Oak <BR>Members of the Orchestra of Dondero High School, Royal Oak <BR>Scott Foppiano, Director of Music at the National Shrine of the Little = Flower <BR>Rob Abbott, Liturgical Music Assistant at the National Shrine of the = Little <BR>Flower <BR>The Rev. Monsignor William H. Easton, Pastor of The National Shrine <BR>The Harpsichord housed in the Shrine was built by George Butcher, 1986 = (exact <BR>copy of instrument built by Pascal Taskin, 1769, Paris) <BR>The National Shrine's Grand Organ was built by Geo. Kilgen and Son, = St. <BR>Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933 <BR> <BR>The repertoire to be performed will include: <BR> <BR>Fugue in g minor ("Little") performed by Mr. Raines <BR>"Sicut Locutus Est" (from the Magnificat) performed by the Schola = Cantorum <BR>"Liebster Jesu, wir send hier" performed by the combined choirs, = orchestras <BR>and the organ <BR>"Although both heart and eyes overflow" and "Lord, to Thee, my heart I =   <BR>proffer" performed by Mrs. Ferriole <BR>Concerto for strings and harpsichord performed by the combined = orchestras <BR>with Mr. Abbott playing the harpsichord <BR>Toccata and Fugue in d minor performed by Mr. Foppiano <BR> <BR>In addition, Monsignor Easton will give a talk discussing the features = and <BR>beauty of the Shrine's unique and splendid Art Deco architecture. <BR> <BR>The concert was planned by Carole Galli with cooperation and = sponsorship from <BR>the Royal Oak Arts Council and the National Shrine of the Little = Flower. <BR> <BR>There is no admission charge, a free will offering will be taken. <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_5f.125cf824.27e4f60e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:29:20 EST   Hi Mike:   Wicks did a glass enclosure with their Foreward Three and Four series. I thought it was Kwell at the time, still do!   Of course there was Newport Organs Bob did the same thing.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:29:59 EST     --part1_e8.11f396c6.27e4f917_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/17/01 4:45:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, mike3247@earthlink.net writes:     > Has anyone ever created swell shades out of a transparent > material--ie glass, plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate > glare. > > It's been done, but it's as aesthetic as having sex in plastic pajamas!! = ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_e8.11f396c6.27e4f917_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/17/01 4:45:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, <BR>mike3247@earthlink.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Has anyone ever = created swell shades out of a transparent <BR>material--ie glass, plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate <BR>glare. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">It's been done, but it's as aesthetic as having = sex in plastic pajamas!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_e8.11f396c6.27e4f917_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:44:59 EST     --part1_54.1174b54a.27e4fc9b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/17/01 5:27:53 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ScottFop@aol.com writes:     > It is sad that those who have not seen or heard it wouldn't understand = or > appreciate it, as evidenced.   Oh dear! I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. You missed my :-) !!!   We do appreciate the instrument and the efforts of all to preserve it.   And you can even use huge print if it will make you smile again!!! ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_54.1174b54a.27e4fc9b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/17/01 5:27:53 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ScottFop@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It is sad that = those who have not seen or heard it wouldn't understand or <BR>appreciate it, as evidenced. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Oh dear! &nbsp;I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. &nbsp;&nbsp;You = missed my :-) !!! <BR> <BR>We do appreciate the instrument and the efforts of all to preserve it. =   <BR> <BR>And you can even use huge print if it will make you smile again!!! = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_54.1174b54a.27e4fc9b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Expression Pedal Order From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:47:24 -0500   Bruce.....by "Jack", do you mean "O. Jacques de Montreal"???   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:52:01 +0800 (CST)       On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, mike wrote:   > In a message dated 3/17/01 11:14:27 EST Bruce writes: > > <snip> > Don't you want to see any pipes??? For me that is a very important > part of > playing the organ. I want and need that visual contact with what is > producing the sound. <snip> > > Mike Gettelman writes: > > Has anyone ever created swell shades out of a transparent > material--ie glass, plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate > glare.     Yes. Wicks used to have an organ with swell shades created out of glass (with pieces of wood surrounding each side of each shade) in one of its advertisements in one or more of the organ magazines "x" number of years ago...   I don't know if they are making organs with this type of shade anymore...     Morton Belcher          
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:54:42 +0800 (CST)       On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Hi > > Schoenstein built a stunning French Choir organ for an RC church > in Los Angeles. Two expression boxes 11 ranks. Accoustics > aplenty 4-6 seconds. You got to have that for any successful > sounding organ. Dead rooms just never will cut it, I don't care which > way you try to slice it!   Was this the organ recorded on a CD not too many years ago by Kurt Leuders (I'm not sure about the spelling of his surname.. I don't have the CD at hand at my present venue...)   Morton Belcher   fellow Pipechat list member...     > > Regards, > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics  
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:19:46 -0800   I examined a one-manual Hinners with a disposition something like this:   MANUAL   (exposed)   8' Open Diapason 4' Octave 2' Fifteenth   (enclosed)   8' Melodia 8' Viola 8' Dulciana 4' Flute   PEDAL   (exposed)   16' Bourdon   Unfortunately it wasn't playable, so I can't tell you what the effect was = ... nor do I remember if any of the stops were divided ... I THINK the = principals weren't, and the rest were.   It would seem to me you could expand on that somewhat and do something = like this:   GREAT   (exposed)   1 - 8' Principal 2 - 4' Octave 3 - 2' Super Octave   (enclosed, duplexed from Swell)   4 - 16' Gedeckt - 12 pipes 4 - 8' Gedeckt 5 - 8' String 4 - 4' Gedeckt - 12 pipes 5 - 4' String - 12 pipes 7 - 8' Trumpet     SWELL   4 - 16' Gedeckt - 12 pipes 4 - 8' Gedeckt 5 - 8' String 6 - 8' Celeste 4 - 4' Gedeckt - 12 pipes 5 - 4' String - 12 pipes 9 - 4' Principal 10 - 2' Doublette 7 - 8' Trumpet 8 - 8' Oboe   PEDAL   11 - 16' Bourdon - exposed 4 - 16' Gedeckt (swell) 4 - 10 2/3 (swell gedeckt) 9 - 8' Octave - 12 pipes (swell 4' principal) 11 - 8' Bourdon - extension 4 - 8' Gedeckt (swell) 10 - 4' Choral Bass - 12 pipes (swell 2' doublette) 11 - 4' Bourdon - extension 7 - 16' Contra Trumpet (swell) 7 - 8' Trumpet (swell) 8 - 4' Clarion or Oboe (swell)   Which is basically a somewhat rearranged Moller Artiste (grin), and = virtually what we're doing with the Surf City Moller, plus some independent = mutations and a mixture. I count 11 ranks.   Enclosing part of the Great takes up more SPACE ... *if* what you're enclosing is independent Great ranks, rather than duplexing from the = Swell. Other than that, I can't see any reason NOT to do it in an instrument primarily intended for service-playing.   Cheers,   Bud     flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw wrote:   > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Chris Baker wrote: > > > Gentlemen, > > If you wish to continue this discussion re the enclosing of Great > > Organ divisions, please would you do so very quietly? > > As I am keying in this e-mail, in the background on my computer I'm > listening to a MP3 file of Pietro Yon's Gesu Bambino... played very > quietly but yet very sweetly... > > A question I'd like others to comment on. > > With a small organ, how many ranks should one have before it is divided > into two divisions (division no. l =3D enclosed and division no. 2 = either > completely unenclosed or partially unenclosed)? > > I have played on small organs up to about 10 ranks which were all placed > in one chamber... Surely some individuals on the list can come up with > some specs of small organs that could be divided into two divisions... > > I have played on an organ with an enclosed Swell and a completely > unenclosed Great... I often wished that, for flexibility, all the = ranks > except for the Diapason 8 and Octave 4 had been enclosed... > > Partially enclosed Great Organs do not seem to be in vogue any more... > Any reason why? What are the disadvantages to partially enclosed Great > Organs? To me the advantage of a partially enclosed Great Organ is more > flexibility... > > I'm looking forward to the varied opinions on the questions I have = raised > above.... > > Best wishes to all.. > > Morton Belcher > fellow Pipechat list member... > > > > > Chris Baker > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:22:00 -0500     --------------FB18EF5192BA38934E735051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 3/17/01 4:45:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, > mike3247@earthlink.net writes: > > > >> Has anyone ever created swell shades out of a transparent >> material--ie glass, plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate >> glare. >> > > > It's been done, but it's as aesthetic as having sex in plastic > pajamas!! ;-) > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Mike Gettelman replies:   Wow Bruce, it would be very tough to design an organ to meet ALL your criteria. I envision wind chests that would move forward on tracks upon console command like soloists in a big band, video cams that would track your stop selection, and display a picture of the pipes you are playing on a monitor next to the music rack, invisible electrostatic swell shade screens that can activated and adjusted to filter the sound of the pipes from wide open to nothing, yet never block the aesthetic view of the pipes, and maybe even a lazy susan design for the pipes on the chests so that selected stops bring the proper ranks to a forward position on the chest so that they may speak more clearly. Perhaps we have here a glimpse into the future of pipe organ building in the 22nd century?   --------------FB18EF5192BA38934E735051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> &nbsp; <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 3/17/01 4:45:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>mike3247@earthlink.net = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Has anyone ever created swell shades out of a transparent</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>material--ie glass, = plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>glare.</font></font> <br>&nbsp;</blockquote>   <p><br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>It's = been done, but it's as aesthetic as having sex in plastic pajamas!!&nbsp; = ;-)</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>Bruce&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Visit = Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font></blockquote> Mike Gettelman replies: <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wow Bruce, it would be very tough to design an organ to meet <u>ALL</u> your criteria. I envision wind chests that would move forward on tracks upon console command like soloists in a big band, video cams that would track your stop selection, and display a picture of the pipes you are playing on a monitor next to the music rack, invisible = electrostatic swell shade screens that can activated and adjusted to filter the sound of the pipes from wide open to nothing, yet never block the aesthetic view of the pipes, and maybe even a lazy susan design for the pipes on the = chests so that selected stops bring the proper ranks to a forward position on the chest so that they may speak more clearly. Perhaps we have here a = glimpse into the future of pipe organ building in the 22nd century?</html>   --------------FB18EF5192BA38934E735051--