PipeChat Digest #1918 - Saturday, March 17, 2001
 
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Toronto
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Lots of messages
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Russian Organ music
  by "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Russian Organ music
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: Small organs:  One chamber enclosure?  Two chamber enclosure?
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Eastern Orthodox
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure?  Two chamber  enclosure?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Organ Recital in Boston   XPOSTED
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Cavaillle-Coll Photographs
  by "Jeff Stanway" <jstanway@mail.island.net>
seeing the pipes / making do with what you've got
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Cavaillle-Coll Photographs
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Clear shutters; was Small organs: et al.
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Lots of messages
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Re: Expression Pedal Order
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: seeing the pipes / making do with what you've got
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:41:40 -0800     --------------C7C20AA79701B711DC72F2DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   You have sex in PAJAMAS??!! (ducking)   mike wrote:   > > > Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 3/17/01 4:45:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, >> mike3247@earthlink.net writes: >> >> >> >> > Has anyone ever created swell shades out of a transparent >> > material--ie glass, plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate >> > >> > glare. >> >> >> It's been done, but it's as aesthetic as having sex in plastic >> pajamas!! ;-) >> >> Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com >> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, >> Bohawow!" >> Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > Mike Gettelman replies: > > Wow Bruce, it would be very tough to design an organ to meet ALL > your criteria. I envision wind chests that would move forward on > tracks upon console command like soloists in a big band, video cams > that would track your stop selection, and display a picture of the > pipes you are playing on a monitor next to the music rack, invisible > electrostatic swell shade screens that can activated and adjusted to > filter the sound of the pipes from wide open to nothing, yet never > block the aesthetic view of the pipes, and maybe even a lazy susan > design for the pipes on the chests so that selected stops bring the > proper ranks to a forward position on the chest so that they may speak > more clearly. Perhaps we have here a glimpse into the future of pipe > organ building in the 22nd century?   --------------C7C20AA79701B711DC72F2DE Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> You have sex in PAJAMAS??!! (ducking) <p>mike wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>&nbsp; <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 3/17/01 4:45:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>mike3247@earthlink.net = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Has anyone ever created swell shades out of a transparent</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>material--ie glass, = plexiglass, etc.? Back-lighting could eliminate</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>glare.</font></font></blockquote>   <p><br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>It's = been done, but it's as aesthetic as having sex in plastic pajamas!!&nbsp; = ;-)</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>Bruce&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Visit = Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <a = href=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</a></font></font></font></blockquote> Mike Gettelman replies: <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wow Bruce, it would be very tough to design an organ to meet <u>ALL</u> your criteria. I envision wind chests that would move forward on tracks upon console command like soloists in a big band, video cams that would track your stop selection, and display a picture of the pipes you are playing on a monitor next to the music rack, invisible = electrostatic swell shade screens that can activated and adjusted to filter the sound of the pipes from wide open to nothing, yet never block the aesthetic view of the pipes, and maybe even a lazy susan design for the pipes on the = chests so that selected stops bring the proper ranks to a forward position on the chest so that they may speak more clearly. Perhaps we have here a = glimpse into the future of pipe organ building in the 22nd century?</blockquote> </html>   --------------C7C20AA79701B711DC72F2DE--    
(back) Subject: Toronto From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:43:34 EST   Greetings from cold, snowy, and windy Toronto! (Not to worry: I'm well bundled up!) Staying at an excellent apartment hotel in Chinatown, and no: I won't = divulge the name. Chinatown has expanded greatly since my last visit to Toronto, 32 years = ago. Standing at the corner of Dundas and Spadina, I was practically the only Caucasian in sight! Mostly, the denizens are of Hong Kong origin, and everyone is speaking Cantonese --- which is not my favorite language. (I much prefer the more mellifluous Mandarin of Beijing.) There is also a sizable Vietnamese population interspersed among the Chinese.   In Chinatown is to be found the huge Romanesque St. Patrick's Church. Obviously, it was originally an Irish church; but today it appears to be a =   predominantly German parish. They have a German Mass on Sundays at 10 = a.m., and I'll definitely be going to that. Perhaps I'll then find out what = kind of (real pipe!) organ that is up in the organ loft. They have a Chinese organist, however! Mark Huang. The church is grimly Canadian on the = outside --- very similar the churches one sees in Quebec City; but inside it is beautiful and spacious, with fine stained glass.   Right behind St. Patrick's is another Catholic church: Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Evidently, this is today and entirely Chinese parish: all the = Masses are in Cantonese or in one Chinese language/dialect or another. It was locked this afternoon.   Now on my way to take a look at some other churches: St. James Anglican Cathedral, St. Michael's Roman Catholic Cathedral, and St. Paul's Anglican =   Church. Then some shopping, and most likely a visit to the Sky Tower --- said to = be the tallest "structure" in the world (over 500 meters high). It is really =   quite an impressive sight, and dominates the skyline!   In Chinatown, there are two large art galleries: the Art Gallery of = Ontario, and the Chinese Art Gallery of Ontario. Further uptown is the Royal = Ontario Museum of Art --- said to be the largest museum in Canada, with a fine collection of Asian art. If possible, I'll visit that tomorrow afternoon.   Also got a glimpse of the Parliament Building of Ontario as I walked by. = I'd describe the architecture as Grim Victorian. But it has historical significance, and quite an imposing site.   Probably no time for any concerts this weekend, unless there might be an organ recital tomorrow somewhere or other.   They still have the trolley cars here (called trams in Britain): powered = up overhead electric lines. The overhead lines may not be so esthetic; but Toronto has certainly minimized its air pollution --- in comparison to = other major North American cities --- by keeping the electric trolleys. They = are also much more fun to ride than those smoke-belching diesel buses one = finds in most North American cities.   I have yet to try Toronto's subway. (They do call it the subway here, = just as in New York; whereas in Montreal it's called the Metro, as in Paris.)   Cheers,   Arthur LaMirande  
(back) Subject: Lots of messages From: <MickBerg@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:46:01 EST     --part1_4b.8e3e610.27e50ae9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi folks!   Any reason for the huge increase in postings lately?   I just received my Bach Organ Sheet Music CDROM. Just a warning for anyone =   else who has ordered it. It requires you to have Adobe Acrobat Reader = Version 4. The version supplied on the CDROM would not run on my computer. It = crashed every time. I downloaded the Reader directly from Adobe's website and everything was fine. Did anyone else have this problem?   Mick Berg.     --part1_4b.8e3e610.27e50ae9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Hi folks! <BR> <BR>Any reason for the huge increase in postings lately? <BR> <BR>I just received my Bach Organ Sheet Music CDROM. Just a warning for = anyone <BR>else who has ordered it. It requires you to have Adobe Acrobat Reader = Version <BR>4. The version supplied on the CDROM would not run on my computer. It = crashed <BR>every time. I downloaded the Reader directly from Adobe's website and <BR>everything was fine. Did anyone else have this problem? <BR> <BR>Mick Berg. <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_4b.8e3e610.27e50ae9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:58:32 EST   Hi List:   It is dependant on how an organ is voiced. Good results as the Los Angeles job by Schoenstein atests speaking facade pipes and all ranks in swell boxes. The organ is a Cavaille Coll sound alike, and very beautiful.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Russian Organ music From: "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:05:32 +0100   Dear Mandy, there are some CDs with Russian organ music including not only transcriptions IN MY COLLECTION: 200 Years of russian Organ Music - an antology - Alexander Fiseisky plays the organ at Tallin cathedral, Estonia, label et cetera KTC 2019, 2 CDs Russian Organ Music, Alexander Fiseisky plays the organ at the Kreuzkirch= e, Hamburg-Ottensee, label Lammas 101 Modern Russian Organ Music, Friedemann Herz plays the organ at. St. Peter= , Sinzig, label Koch Aulos 66022 Russian and Ukrainian Organ Music, Valeri Rubacha plays the organ of the Cappella Hall, St. Petersburg, label Olympia 554   and some others I have not handy, yet i. e. with Arthuro Sacchetti, Franz Haselb=F6ck and some single pieces and something on LPs, too. .. A few weeks ago I bought a CD of the Motette label The great Organ of the Tschaikowsky Hall Moskow, including works by Widor and Boellmann and of three Russian composers, Goedicke, Schostakovich and Katerina Izmaillova Butuzova, played by Alexei Parchin at the Cavaill-Col= l organ, Psallite 60361. It seems the organ stil is in a quite good condition, now.     From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:19 AM   > Forgive my extreme ignorance... > > Is there any Russian organ music out there? I think the closest I've co= me is > Scriabin piano music transcribed for the organ. Also what are some of t= he > better organs in Russia (if any??) and who built them? > > For some reason I've never associated the organ with Russia, though tha= t > could be because I don't know anything at all about the Greek Orthodox > Church, and usually associate organs in general with church music. > > Any thoughts?          
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:20:03 EST   Hi Morton:   This little organ has a huge organ sound. They may have made a CD with it. I know it fills that big church with no trouble at all.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Russian Organ music From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:41:35 EST   Oh boy oh boy :::rubbing hands together:::   Cds to look for, articles to read, yipppppeee! Thanks everyone! And = thanks, Ron for the info on the Greek Orthodox Church- I'd always wondered what = the music practices and services were like. Of course, it isn't as if one can = pop down to Half Price Books and pick up a Greek Orthodox hymnal. A very interesting culture- if I could ever get beyond memorizing the Russian alphabet maybe I could learn more about it, haha.   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:44:13 EST   Cremona502@cs.com writes 3/17/01 @11:33:35 CST   >It's been done, but it's as aesthetic as having sex in plastic pajamas!! =   ;-) <<     Well, now! Haven't tried that approach. However, there isn't much particularly aesthetic about the activity anyway unless one a participant. = :)   JP  
(back) Subject: Eastern Orthodox From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:53:17 -0800   Ron omitted one cultural thing: don't EVER call Russian Orthodox = Christians "Greek Orthodox" (grin) ... them's fightin' words (grin) ... the Greeks = are the "low-church" of the Orthodox world (at least in the U.S.) ... the Russians = are the take-all-the-repeats-don't-leave-ANYTHING-out "high-church".   A bit of history ... the faith DID travel FROM Greece TO Russia ... then = there was a period when Moscow WASN'T in communication (or communion?) with Constantinople ... during that time, as the liturgical books were copied = and recopied by hand, certain minor errors crept in. When communication was re-established, the Patriarch of Moscow sent to Constantinople for fresh = copies of the books. He was HORRIFIED to find that what Moscow had by now = sanctified as correct for several hundred years was actually full of small errors. Nevertheless, rather than "give scandal" to the faithful, he continued to = bless the Russian books, and ignored the Greek.   There ARE Greek AND Russian liturgical books AND music available in = English, mostly from St. Vladimir's Seminary and the Monastery of New Skete ... = both have websites. There is also an Episcopal church in San Francisco that follows = Eastern usages ... St. Gregory of Nyssa ... they have published a LOT of THEIR = music, and most of it is from the Eastern tradition. They have a WONDERFUL website.   I myself have various Greek music books in English ... the Order of Great = Vespers and Matins, the Oktechos (sp?), and a VERY precious ALBANIAN Orthodox = Hymnal in English that has some WONDERFUL 19th century stuff in it for Divine = Liturgy, weddings, funerals, and Holy Week.   Isabella Hopgood's "Service Book" is the standard translation of the = Russian liturgy, but it contains no music.   See also Rachmaninoff's Vespers, All-Night Vigil, and Divine Liturgy.       AMADPoet@aol.com wrote:   > Oh boy oh boy :::rubbing hands together::: > > Cds to look for, articles to read, yipppppeee! Thanks everyone! And = thanks, > Ron for the info on the Greek Orthodox Church- I'd always wondered what = the > music practices and services were like. Of course, it isn't as if one = can pop > down to Half Price Books and pick up a Greek Orthodox hymnal. A very > interesting culture- if I could ever get beyond memorizing the Russian > alphabet maybe I could learn more about it, haha. > > Mandy > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Expressive Divisions (Here we go...) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:53:50 -0800   At 10:08 AM 3/17/2001 -0600, you wrote: >-- however, the organ business is made up largely of utter folly <snip>   Well, thanks for finally fessing up to THAT! In the musical world ,=20 there's no instrument shrouded with as much misinformation, half-truths,=20 "fads" and just plain illogic as the organ!   >Although you can measure bits and pieces of "harmonic development" with=20 >highly accurate instruments in order to prove that portions of the=20 >spectrum are in some ways altered when placed behind such a device, the= =20 >principal "accurate instrument" is the human ear --<snip>   Which isn't true at all. The human ear (and corresponding brain) at very=20 non-linear sensors of acoustic phenomena. For example, for a tone to sound= =20 subjectively twice as loud to a listener, the acoustic power of said tone=20 much be increased 1 Bel...ten TIMES the power! Also, Fletcher and Munson=20 at Bell Telephone Labs in the 1920s finally quantified the non-linearity of= =20 human hearing in terms of frequency response, plotting the now-famous=20 "Fletcher-Munson Curve". Add to this, both sensitivity and frequency=20 response vary greatly during the aging process. Accurate? I think=20 not. Instrumentation and test gear, long shunned by pipe organ people who= =20 still fear incandescent light bulbs, were how Allen, Saville, Rodgers and=20 others got as close as they are today to mimicking the pipe=20 prototype. They sure as hell didn't do it "by ear", as Hammond tried to do= =20 with the colossal G-100 failure.   Indeed, most organists (and some "builders", frankly) have NO clue as to=20 the harmonic make-up of stops...they just know what a Clarabella sounds=20 like to THEM. Builders are not driven directly by tonal results, but=20 rather build on "patterns" to achieve results indirectly, e.g., "this scale= =20 and this mouth and this taper will make a dulciana", rather than "if I=20 reduce cutup somewhat but increase taper, I can boost the fourth, fifth and= =20 sixth harmonics without it becoming "stringy", thus compensating for the=20 awful purple carpet these Methodists are in love with". In fact, it wasn't= =20 until the last century that people finally figured out how a flue pipe=20 actually works, and MANY still don't believe it! Insistence on using=20 age-old materials, rather that experimenting with new alternatives while=20 gauging output of new prototypes with instrumentation is something else=20 that is completely neglected. Yes, like it or not, good sounding pipes CAN= =20 be made from thermoplastics, lowering cost and weight immensely.   >Those who would remain among the "flat earthers", by insisting upon=20 >unenclosed divisions, along with those who insist upon removing=20 >another valuable tool for voicers - i.e. the variable (known popularly as= =20 >"closed") toe on pipes only succeed in depriving themselves, and others=20 >whom they influence, of a vast, marvelous arena of the tonal spectrum=20 >which is there for the taking. <snip>   Amen! I think a lot of the "orgelbewegung" garbage was a visual thing for= =20 many, if not most. All those tall phallic symbols standing in a row were=20 just too irresistible, no matter the things sounded like xylophonic=20 buzzsaws at work! Thus, we wind up with the dreaded "retro-fad"=20 organ...useless curiosities doomed to play the music of one era, and=20 annoyingly, at that! Wellesley is a good example.   >So the argument boils down essentially, to what is most important to the=20 >client: Visual appeal, or tonal variation? <snip>   Note many of the "graoners" of the early 20th century that used literally=20 tons of non-speaking fa=E7ade pipe just to please those that wanted to "see= =20 pipes", although the real things were back in swell boxes. Wouldn't a=20 screen have made a LITTLE more sense, and have been less acoustically=20 restrictive??   'Tis a puzzlement to me, but then again, so are many things.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:03:51 -0800   At 12:07 PM 3/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: >This one sings and sings and sings.<snip>   Never heard Benny Goodman on a pipe organ before....lemmie guess! It's = got a clarinet, right?   hehehehe!    
(back) Subject: Re: Small organs: One chamber enclosure? Two chamber enclosure? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:06:35 -0800   At 12:29 PM 3/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I thought it was Kwell at the time<snip>   No, that's a lotion they used to use to get rid of creepy-crawly things. Outlawed now, since it contained Lindane.   By the way, the bratspeak word is "kewl".   dB    
(back) Subject: Organ Recital in Boston XPOSTED From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:15:12 -0500   Just to remind everyone that Peter Krasinski will present a concert called "The Expanded Bach,Organ Masterworks of Johann Sebastian Bach" on Wednesday, March 21, 2001 at 8PM at Marsh Chapel at Boston University.   Besides being Bach's Birthday it is also Mr. Krisnski's too. Birthday will be served after the concert. The concert is free and open to the public.   Hope to see some list members there   Cheers, Mack    
(back) Subject: Cavaillle-Coll Photographs From: "Jeff Stanway" <jstanway@mail.island.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:32:57 -0800   I'm looking for photographs of Cavaille Coll organs on the internet. In particular I would like to find a photo of the organ in basilique-cathedrale de Saint-Denis, France, and some others of his eairlier instruments.   Thanks, Jeff    
(back) Subject: seeing the pipes / making do with what you've got From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:52:42 -0800   I used to occasionally play a small Moller from the 1920s in a large, reverberant Associate Reform (Scottish) Presbyterian Church in Bartow, FL ... typical of the period, I think the only independent stop on the Great was the HUGE Open Diapason, which WAS in the facade; the rest of the Great was duplexed, extended and unified from the enclosed Swell.   The console was attached to the case ... the first time I went to practice, I pulled on the Open Diapason, played a few chords, and was rewarded with a shower of dust, plaster flakes, dead bugs, etc. ... I don't think it had been used in YEARS (grin) ... and no wonder ... it obliterated the rest of the organ, unless you had the Swell Cornopean drawn with the super coupler.   As it turned out, the building COULD handle the sound ... I had a friend play while I walked around the church ... but the Open Diapason had to be the LAST thing to come on in full combinations, AFTER the Swell reeds.   The Swell was fairly complete ... Violin Diapason (which served as the 2nd Open Diapason and Octave on the Great), Gedeckt at 16-8-4, Doppel Flute? (naw ... that was on the three-manual Moller in the BAPTIST church), pencil-scale Viole d' Orchestre and Celeste, Aeoline (of COURSE) (grin), Cornopean, Oboe and Vox Humana.   The Pedal, typical of the period, was only a two-speed Bourdon with an 8' extension.   BUT ... it could play MUSIC, as long as you respected what it WAS (AND what it WASN'T).   Great 2nd Open + Octave + Gt. 4' gave you a Great chorus; Swell Gedeckt 16-8-4 + Sw. 4' and Unison Off gave you a Swell chorus; or you could couple some of the Swell down to the Pedal at 8-4 for an independent Pedal line.   The whole organ was in a shallow niche elevated behind the choir in the front of the church, so it spoke directly into the room.   It could play just about anything, if you were careful.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Cavaillle-Coll Photographs From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:53:33 -0800   http://www.culture.fr/culture/cavaille-coll/en/index.html   Jeff Stanway wrote:   > I'm looking for photographs of Cavaille Coll organs on the internet. In > particular I would like to find a photo of the organ in > basilique-cathedrale de Saint-Denis, France, and some others of his > eairlier instruments. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Clear shutters; was Small organs: et al. From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:09:53 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003D_01C0AEFC.B37ED800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Actually, there was an organ I visited in New York City (during the 1996 = =3D AGO Centennial) with some kind of clear shutters/shades. I cannot =3D remember for sure, but perhaps it was the Hellmuth Wolff at Eighth =3D Church of Christ, Scientist, on 77th Street between Lexington and Park?   Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most,   Glenda Sutton   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003D_01C0AEFC.B37ED800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>Actually, there was an organ I visited in New York City (during the = =3D 1996=3D20 AGO Centennial) with some kind of clear shutters/shades.&nbsp; I cannot = =3D remember=3D20 for sure,&nbsp;but perhaps it was the Hellmuth Wolff at Eighth Church of = =3D Christ,=3D20 Scientist, on 77th Street between Lexington and Park?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Glenda Sutton</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003D_01C0AEFC.B37ED800--    
(back) Subject: Re: Lots of messages From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:23:03 -0800 (PST)   Yes Mick...I joined the list! :-)     --- MickBerg@aol.com wrote: > Hi folks! > > Any reason for the huge increase in postings lately? >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Expression Pedal Order From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:26:54 EST     --part1_27.1281f091.27e53eae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Yep. We saw some of his "efforts" at the OHS convention. Every country =   must have "one" I suppose! ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_27.1281f091.27e53eae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yep. &nbsp;&nbsp;We saw = some of his "efforts" at the OHS convention. &nbsp;&nbsp;Every country <BR>must have "one" I suppose! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_27.1281f091.27e53eae_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: seeing the pipes / making do with what you've got From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:11:38 -0800   At 01:52 PM 3/17/2001 -0800, you wrote: >I used to occasionally play a small Moller from the 1920s in a large, >reverberant Associate Reform (Scottish) Presbyterian Church in Bartow, >FL ... typical of the period<snip>   I've played, I think, identical instruments in a couple of places. It=20 must've been a "cookie cutter" model for M=F6ller in the 'teens and=20 '20s. And yes, the fa=E7ade Diapason was more like a Diaphone...HUGE,=20 rolling tone that would obliterate everything else! On those old=20 "groaners", one had to indeed know how to use couplers to advantage and=20 play up and octave a lot!   DeserTBoB