PipeChat Digest #1932 - Wednesday, March 21, 2001
 
Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ?
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Re: Jacksonville Symphony Organ Premiere Review
  by "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com>
Re: Regional AGO etc. Region 2!
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Ding Dong, The Hammond's Dead
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re:  From Indiana
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu>
Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ?
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ?
  by "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1931 - 03/21/01
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
More Hoosieriana
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu>
San Francisco
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: Allen Organs
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Easter in San Fran/was Fwd: Christopher Putnam
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: organs and acoustics
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Allen Organs
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Ding Dong, The Hammond's Dead
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Allen Organs
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ? From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:32:58 -0800 (PST)   Jenny,   This is so interesting. I am not aware of anything like this in our city but would like to see something like this here. Very interesting...   > To your question about how do any of us interest > children in the organ - yes,we do > try here in our town hall in Christchurch, New > Zealand,   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Jacksonville Symphony Organ Premiere Review From: "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:09:47 -0500   Is there anyway to get a spec on teh Jacksonville Organ?   Thanks!       Steve LaManna AVI Creative Show Services 7101 Presidents Drive Suite 105 Orlando, FL 32809 Toll Free: 888.251.9651 x3714 FAX:407.854.0969 A national leader in full service production, staging, video, graphics and =   creative services for the meetings, incentive and convention industries. http://www.aviinc.com/cs   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Regional AGO etc. Region 2! From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:28:11 -0500   >John and others; The Binghamton NY chapter of the AGO will be hosting >the Region 2 (NY/NJ) convention from June 24 through June 28. We have >started a web page with some of the details. You can check it out at >htte://www.ago2001region2.org. There are not a lot of us working on it >so the web pages have some "blanks". I am the registrar and will mail >you a real live brochure if you send me your name and address. The >convention is open to everyone We will have a little of everything. 24 >workshops, performers include Olivier Latry, Thomas Murray, Katie >Pardee, NYS Baroque Orchestra, Searle Wright, David Peckham, Andy >Kotylo, Jonathan Biggers, Syracuse Childrens Choir plus others. Many >commissioned works, theatre organ concert, optional Organ/Crawl and >Winery tour through the Finger Lakes. You might even get to hear my >Wurlitzer 153 band organ! > >Dave Clark >   Thanks!!   John Vanderlee 58 Breezy Hill Road Staatsburg, NY 12580      
(back) Subject: Re: Ding Dong, The Hammond's Dead From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:05:16 EST   Quallisma@social.rr.com writes:   >The ONLY reliable organ in the PLACE is the old Hammond spinet in the >choir room (grin), but I'm not playing THAT for Easter.<<   Oh, come now, Bud. I'll be happy to send you my Ether Smith Easter collection with Porter Heaps registration suggestions. :) BTW, what ARE = you doing to those E-ORGS to make them fail? (evil grin)   Best wishes,   Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: From Indiana From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:21:59 -0500 (EST)     Me again.     DeserTBoB wrote, in part:   >Beware the dangers of academia for academia's sake. 'Nuff said.   --Amen! But the academic life is inherently worthwhile, too.     and:   >By the way...what's Her Bishness up to these days? Does she have any teaching duties there at all?   --Ms. Bish has never taught at the IU School of Music, though her program was (is?) produced at our university television station, and her office was/is in Bloomington, and she was/is often sighted around town. I really don't know the very latest, as I've been in NY, but I saw her often enough while I was here full-time, but only in town, never once on campus or in the Department. I had the idea she's returned to Florida. We never did work together. I am a a student of Marilyn Keiser, and worked with Chris Young while she was on sabbatical. Both are world-class performers and teachers, as is Larry Smith, with whom I studied pedagogy.     and finally:   >As for the state of Indiana, I'll leave that to Jim Nabers (who only comes back once a year to sing at the Indy 500), Dan Quayle, Birch Bayh's kid and Her Bishness.     --I didn't even know Nabors did that; I could care less about the race...Still, leaving the State aside, in all objectivity, I have visited many college towns in the Northeast, and many in the Midwest, and I prefer the midwestern towns. (And I'm a native Northeasterner-- or is that 'Nor'easter'??) ;) They are cheaper, friendlier, and on the whole safer. How many of you can rent a one-bedroom house on a very nice, quiet street full of gardens, on a quarter acre of property, for 450 a month, and never an increase in rent? A poor student can do alright that way!     I also ought to mention that Bloomington is the American home of the Dalai Lama and his family. We have two superb Tibetan restaurants here, The Snow Lion and Anyetsang's Cafe, and the food is authentic right down to the buttered tea. Lamas are visible in the streets here, prompting me to recall Ogden Nash's little verse:   The one-l lama, he's a priest. The two-l llama, he's a beast. And I would bet a silk pajama There isn't any three-l lllama.       That's all for the moment...greetings to all and sundry.     Jon just south of Bean Blossom Creek      
(back) Subject: Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ? From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:35:20 EST   Cindy:   I suspect one reason there are fewer organists is because there seems to = be fewer and fewer young people taking piano lessons. Therefore, the pool = for new organists is getting smaller and smaller. Since we live in the = "have it now" generation, why bother taking lessons when you can buy a = synthesizer and sound like an orchestra by playing with one finger. Also, = in most of today's popular bands, music groups, etc., no one reads music. = It's passe and "uncool".   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ? From: "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:31:28 -0600       Tspiggle@aol.com wrote:   > . Also, in most of today's popular bands, music groups, etc., no one = reads music. It's passe and "uncool". >   Well, actually, the truth is, they don't have any "music" to play! Much = less to learn. Or is it the other way around?   TC    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1931 - 03/21/01 From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:01:04 EST     --part1_102.8e374f.27ea1c30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear DesertBoB   I used to be in U.S. Army Special Forces. Maybe I could form a strike = force to capture Glatter-Gotz. We'd hold the place while you and a hand picked design team did your duty for the glory of Disney.   Dennis   --part1_102.8e374f.27ea1c30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dear DesertBoB <BR> <BR>I used to be in U.S. Army Special Forces. &nbsp;Maybe I could form a = strike force <BR>to capture Glatter-Gotz. &nbsp;We'd hold the place while you and a = hand picked <BR>design team did your duty for the glory of Disney. <BR> <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_102.8e374f.27ea1c30_boundary--  
(back) Subject: More Hoosieriana From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:06:10 -0500 (EST)     Gad, me again.   Scott Davis posted in with a wonderful reminiscence of Bloomington "back in the day..."       >As a <native> of Indiana, the southern part of the state is it's most beautiful, especially the quaint towns named such as French Lick and Santa Claus... ;-)     --Yes, Scott, but have you forgotten the towns named Gnaw Bone and Oolitic??! And did you like visiting Nashville, in Brown County? That's still a charming 19th century village with candy shops, candle stores, wineries and the like. Just lovely.   Another amazing thing are the huge Catholic churches in the very southern part of the state--that convent in Ferdinand (Saint Benedict's?), of course Saint Meinrad's with its faboo Goulding and Wood, the huge RC place in Jasper, et cetera...I even played that 1890's organ in Troy, right on the Ohio River. Do you know that town, and its church, I think St. Pius?   Troy is right near Tell City, named after William Tell by Swiss Catholic settlers. A tiny potato-chip company there, Bettingers, makes homemade thick potato chips that are alone worth the trip! I remember eating them warm, right from the greasy bag!! :-)~   Then there's the Amish--I've never before seen hitching racks at malls! I love to buy their produce in Bedford...if only they made pipe organs! :)   There are no more Conns at IU. All of our practice instruments are pipe, about evenly divided tracker and EP. There are Reuters, Schantzes, a Papa Holtkamp, a Chick Holtkamp, a von Beckerath, a new Ott, a Noack, a Moller that we call "the funeral home organ" because of its faux facade, and a Wicks with glass swell shades--ooh! aah! Whatever your musical kink, there's a pipe organ for you on the third floor.   At last report, eight or nine of the Rosales stops were in. If I can wangle a visit to Auer Hall, I'll post a report later.     Cheerily,   Jon Bloomington    
(back) Subject: San Francisco From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:47:23 EST     --part1_ae.1260f7ad.27ea270b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   If you want to attend Mass in San Francisco, I recommend St. Mary's Cathedral, located near the consulate of the People's Republic of China = and close to Japantown.   Sometimes irreverently called the "washing machine" (because of its odd shape), it has a grandiose High Mass on Sundays at 11 a.m., complete with clouds of incense and grand processions. The choir is a good one, and sometimes they actually sing good music! (Although: Marty Haugen does = creep in, too, alas.) The organ is a Ruffatti. I performed on it twice during 2000. As the organist (Christoph Tietze) = said to me: "It's the best Ruffatti in San Francisco."   It's heard to best advantage if you're sitting on the opposite side of the =   cathedral --- which, inside, is very spacious indeed. The organ is free-standing, and sometimes referred to as the "toadstool". It's not my =   favorite instrument, and still has no computer memory system ---- I was = told they're planning to build a new console.   The acoustics are passable. The Archbishop who had the cathedral built ordered the interior walls to be chemically treated, so as to favor the spoken word! Obviously, he was a product of the 20s! Without the = chemical treatement, the reverberation would be stupendous, I'm sure. I'm told it would be prohibitively expensive to undo the damage now.   Other churches of interest: Old St. Mary's Cathedral in Chinatown; St. Dominic's Church, located some blocks northwest of St. Mary's --- it's a = true Gothic church; and the quite huge St. Ignatius Loyola Church, located much =   farther out near Golden Gate Park. There is also one French church in downtown SF, but I forget the name offhand. St. Francis Xavier, I think. =   Oh, there's also that church in Little Italy --- the one where Joe = Dimaggio's funeral was held, and which was formerly used quite often for TV police dramas! (Name escapes me at the moment. Is it St. Peter and St. Paul?)   Grace Cathedral (Episcopalian) is quite an impressive church, and has an extraordinary site on top of Nob Hill. I was living right across the = street from it for a while, back in 1996. Went to a Sunday service there once, = just to see what it was like. An interminable sermon! The service droned on = and on. I didn't think whoever was playing the organ did very much with it. = The choir, though, was a good one. At that point in the service where everyone is expected to greet each = other, the two (gay) guys sitting right next to me refused to shake my hand, or = even to look at me. (But after the service had concluded, when I went to sign the guestbook, = one of them came up to the guestbook afterwards, to see what I had written! Proving that my presence had been visible all along, and that I wasn't a = mere spectre!)   That was the first and last time I attended a service at Grace Cathedral. =   Ever since, I go to St. Mary's. There, sermons --- pardon me, homilies! = --- actually make sense, too. Monsignor O'Connor (the pastor) is quite an eloquent speaker.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_ae.1260f7ad.27ea270b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>If you want to attend = Mass in San Francisco, I recommend St. Mary's <BR>Cathedral, located near the consulate of the People's Republic of = China and <BR>close to Japantown. <BR> <BR>Sometimes irreverently called the "washing machine" (because of its = odd <BR>shape), it has a grandiose High Mass on Sundays at 11 a.m., complete = with <BR>clouds of incense and grand processions. &nbsp;The choir is a good = one, and <BR>sometimes they actually sing good music! &nbsp;(Although: Marty Haugen = does creep <BR>in, too, alas.) &nbsp;The organ is a Ruffatti. <BR>I performed on it twice during 2000. &nbsp;As the organist (Christoph = Tietze) said <BR>to me: "It's the best Ruffatti in San Francisco." <BR> <BR>It's heard to best advantage if you're sitting on the opposite side of the <BR>cathedral --- which, inside, is very spacious indeed. &nbsp;The organ = is <BR>free-standing, and sometimes referred to as the "toadstool". = &nbsp;&nbsp;It's not my <BR>favorite instrument, and still has no computer memory system ---- I = was told <BR>they're planning to build a new console. <BR> <BR>The acoustics are passable. &nbsp;The Archbishop who had the cathedral = built <BR>ordered the interior walls to be chemically treated, so as to favor = the <BR>spoken word! &nbsp;Obviously, he was a product of the 20s! = &nbsp;Without the chemical <BR>treatement, the reverberation would be stupendous, I'm sure. &nbsp;I'm = told it <BR>would be prohibitively expensive to undo the damage now. <BR> <BR>Other churches of interest: &nbsp;Old St. Mary's Cathedral in = Chinatown; &nbsp;St. <BR>Dominic's Church, located some blocks northwest of St. Mary's --- it's = a true <BR>Gothic church; and the quite huge St. Ignatius Loyola Church, located = much <BR>farther out near Golden Gate Park. &nbsp;There is also one French = church in <BR>downtown SF, but I forget the name offhand. &nbsp;St. Francis Xavier, = I think. &nbsp; <BR>Oh, there's also that church in Little Italy --- the one where Joe = Dimaggio's <BR>funeral was held, and which was formerly used quite often for TV = police <BR>dramas! &nbsp;(Name escapes me at the moment. &nbsp;Is it St. Peter = and St. Paul?) <BR> <BR>Grace Cathedral (Episcopalian) is quite an impressive church, and has = an <BR>extraordinary site on top of Nob Hill. &nbsp;I was living right across = the street <BR>from it for a while, back in 1996. &nbsp;Went to a Sunday service = there once, just <BR>to see what it was like. &nbsp;An interminable sermon! &nbsp;The = service droned on and <BR>on. &nbsp;I didn't think whoever was playing the organ did very much = with it. &nbsp;The <BR>choir, though, was a good one. <BR>At that point in the service where everyone is expected to greet each = other, <BR>the two (gay) guys sitting right next to me refused to shake my hand, = or even <BR>to look at me. <BR>(But after the service had concluded, when I went to sign the = guestbook, one <BR>of them came up to the guestbook afterwards, to see what I had = written! &nbsp; <BR>Proving that my presence had been visible all along, and that I wasn't = a mere <BR>spectre!) <BR> <BR>That was the first and last time I attended a service at Grace = Cathedral. &nbsp; <BR>Ever since, I go to St. Mary's. &nbsp;There, sermons --- pardon me, = homilies! --- <BR>actually make sense, too. &nbsp;Monsignor O'Connor (the pastor) is = quite an <BR>eloquent speaker. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ae.1260f7ad.27ea270b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organs From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:56:00 -0800   Check the model number (lift up the lid and it should be on a plate on the = back wall of the console) ... T(C)-12s, T(C)-15s, and T(C)-1s had the "princess pedals", which are particularly annoying because you can't do toe-to-toe substitutions on black notes. I think you had to get up to the T(C)-3 to = get a standard AGO pedal-board. Also, BE WARNED ... the "gyrophonic projector" = speaker cabinets that go with these organs are HUGE (grin).   I don't remember whether a TC-3 has standard overhanging manuals or not = ... the smaller organs didn't ... they had "waterfall" keyboards like an old = Hammond.   Cheers,   Bud   AMADPoet@aol.com wrote:   > Howdy- > > My teacher and I were stewing over something yesterday: I found an Allen > organ I was considering buying that was built in 1969. My teacher said = that > he had an organ that was built in the same year and the pedals were thin > width wise, which kind of annoyed him. Does anyone know if this was the = norm > for a certain model or time period? The organ I referred to looks very > similar to the Protege, but I don't know how long that model has been = around > so I can't be sure that's what it was. > > Many thanks, > Mandy > > "The notes are right, but if I listened they would be wrong." ~Eugene = Ormandy > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Easter in San Fran/was Fwd: Christopher Putnam From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:02:45 -0800 (PST)   Someone asked about Easter in San Fran. The Cathedral music dept. has had = many knocks, John Fenstermakers retirement, and now former associate Organist/Choirmaster and now newly appointed Canon Organist Chris Putnam's battle with cancer at age 33. Thought this may be of interest.   Randy   <begin pasted message> > Hospitalization of Christopher Putnam, Canon Organist of Grace Cathedral > > >Please distribute this email widely! > > > >Current information about Canon Christopher Putnam's hospitalization is > >available by calling 749-6381. Please do not expect to visit him in = the > >hospital at this time and please do not send flowers. Please do = continue > >to support and care for him and his family by prayer, written cards = (c/o > >Grace Cathedral, 1100 California St., SF CA 94108), and by refraining = from > >phone calls for information about his condition. > > > >Here is a summary (in a pastor's "lay" terms) of what brought = Christopher > >to the hospital: > > > >Christopher suffers from myasthenia gravis > = >http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/myasthenia_gravis.ht= m > > > >Further, while being treated for the myasthenia last autumn, a CT scan > >revealed a tumor affecting his thymus. After three rounds of = chemotherapy, > >which Christopher tolerated well, surgery was performed on March 1, = 2001 to > >remove the tumor. Unfortunately, to effectively remove it, one of > >Christopher's lungs was also removed. Christopher's initial days of > >recovery were marked by alert, sparkling conversation. However, the > >remaining lung and supporting muscles (diaphragm) continued to be = affected > >by the myasthenia and breathing was labored. Christopher was put on a > >ventilator to help his breathing and medicated for comfort. > > > >Various complications ensued, including the need to do a pulmonary = bypass > >to help give oxygen to the blood and give some rest to the lung. > > > >His situation is quite complicated and there will be more hurdles, no > >doubt, but Christopher is not "dying" any more (or less) than the rest = of > >us. His wife Caroline celebrates quite openly each small sign of > >improvement and each overcoming of an obstacle. "How's Caroline doing?" > >Serene, solid, faith-filled, realistic, deeply concerned, deeply loyal, > >deeply hopeful, deeply grateful. She rejoices in the support of the > >Cathedral community, the healing power of music, and especially the > >*mystery* of the healing Christ who continues to suffer in His Body of > >believers but who is ultimately victorious. > > > >Join us in our common prayer for Christopher, for his mother Judy (who = is > >also at his side), and for Caroline. > > > >"O God, the strength of the weak and the comfort of sufferers: = Mercifully > >accept our prayers, and grant to your servant Christopher the help of = your > >power, that his sickness may be turned into health, and our sorrow into > >joy; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen." --Book of Common Prayer, = p. > >458. > > > >The Rev. Mark E. Stanger > >Canon Precentor and Associate Pastor > >http://www.gracecathedral.org/ > > > > > _________________________________________________ > The Rev. Chip Barker > Rector, St. Peter's Episcopal Church > Redwood City, CA > http://www.stpetersrwc.org > >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: organs and acoustics From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:17:25 -0800 (PST)     One of my teachers, Janette Fishell, stressed a technique she called "over-legato," where you slithered across the keyboard and pedals letting = notes barely overlap whereever it worked musically, and especially for romantic = works or the melody in a chorale prelude.   This compensates quite well in a dry room.   Organists should not let a "bad" organ deter them in any circumstance. I = had a Wicks (13 ranks) at my last post, with a highly unified swell, great had = less unification, and dead room. After mild revoicing (removing the scratchy = sound from little or no tonal finishing in the room.)   It could be made to sound quite good. The Principal Chorus was similar to = some of the famous organs in the area, the Pedal had a wonderful independent = 16' Fagott, and the independent Flutes at 8 and 4 in each division were nice. = The Erzhaler was turned into a big Spitzflute. Of the manual reeds, the = Krummhorn was quite nice, the Trumpet only so-so, and the Chamade really only so-so, = but the room couldn't handle such a sound.   My current church has a 13 rank Swain & Kates, nothing special at all, but marvelous acoustics. As it gets enlarged soon after Easter (total now 20 = ranks in the gallery! and Echo in Sanctuary chamber prepared which will indlude = a Hill, Norman & Beard Clarinet, an Austin Tuba, a couple of vintage Flutes = and hopefully 2 pairs of strings!! date of install TBD)   Anyway, I've played some larger, fancier instruments, including even Grace Cathedral, and even as wonderful as that instrumnet is, the small organ at = St. Peter's is plenty to keep me satisfied.   I DO HOWEVER, BELIEVE THAT ACOUSTICS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT STOP IN ANY = ORGAN!   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organs From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:17:26 EST   Hey Bob:   I had a Bald-one 5, years ago! What a piece of work that was! I finally gave it to the Goodwill.   The early Allen 120-123 series was a workhorse and very relyable. It = popped a power fuse every 5 to 10 years which costs pennies to replace, and they were easy to work on. I gave mine to a church that had an AOB three years younger that bit the dust after only 10 years of service. I played the AOB when it was first installed in 1981, and when I opened the console the roll top, you guessed it unraveled in my hand. I knew then it was trouble. Cost of the AOB $30,000. Cost of the Allen $14,000. I guess cost doesn't always mean quality.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Ding Dong, The Hammond's Dead From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:19 EST   Hi Jim:   I think Bud has figured out a variation on the old water motor scam. Richard Biggs used to tell a story of how the Water motor would fail at the right time during the recessional hymn. he'd kick it and the organ would whezze to a hault.   Ron   Ps: He wanted a Spencer blower!  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organs From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:48:59 -0500   Dear Bud, You are right. The gyrophonic speakers are huge but I guess they give the movement needed to somewhat sterile sound. I have two bass speakers, one diapason, one flute and two reed speakers stuck on shelves = in the back of the living room plus the three speakers for the Carousel. The console is up in the barn and I want to combine that organ with the custom console for a three manual with 7 tone generator boards.The blue monster (gang relays, generator boards, RMW and amps ) are in the cellar. I feel that this will give me a sound pretty close to the American Romantic = organ. I have to do it slowly as I don't want to have the better half revolt. She is complaining that if I die, who will remove the instrument. I told her that she's worrying too much. Some one will take it or the salvage man will.Doesn't everyone want to build an organ????? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Allen Organs     > Check the model number (lift up the lid and it should be on a plate on = the back > wall of the console) ... T(C)-12s, T(C)-15s, and T(C)-1s had the = "princess > pedals", which are particularly annoying because you can't do toe-to-toe > substitutions on black notes. I think you had to get up to the T(C)-3 to get a > standard AGO pedal-board. Also, BE WARNED ... the "gyrophonic = projector" speaker > cabinets that go with these organs are HUGE (grin). > > I don't remember whether a TC-3 has standard overhanging manuals or not .... the > smaller organs didn't ... they had "waterfall" keyboards like an old Hammond. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > AMADPoet@aol.com wrote: > > > Howdy- > > > > My teacher and I were stewing over something yesterday: I found an = Allen > > organ I was considering buying that was built in 1969. My teacher said that > > he had an organ that was built in the same year and the pedals were = thin > > width wise, which kind of annoyed him. Does anyone know if this was = the norm > > for a certain model or time period? The organ I referred to looks very > > similar to the Protege, but I don't know how long that model has been around > > so I can't be sure that's what it was. > > > > Many thanks, > > Mandy > > > > "The notes are right, but if I listened they would be wrong." ~Eugene Ormandy > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >