PipeChat Digest #1934 - Wednesday, March 21, 2001
 
Re: cheap rents for students/thoughts on brevity of life
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Allen Organs
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: Allen Organs
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Indiana et al
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
St. Mary's
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ? one useless opinion
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: Indiana et al
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: cheap rents for students/thoughts on brevity of life From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:44:12 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0022_01C0B22E.8A8537C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Art, I have to agree about the brevity of life. I too have outlived = =3D my father by a year and a half. I'm 59 pushing 60. To think that my =3D father told me I would not live to see 21. My mother also lived to 83 =3D but all of the men in my family except for one did not live past 60.=3D20 All I can say is all I have is today. Yesterday cannot be changed =3D and tomorrow is not here. That's why I continue to work on those pieces = =3D of music that I always wanted to play but had either no time or =3D endurance. Spending 5 days a week on the road and the sixth and seventh = =3D working to restore an old Victorian house before we all wound up in the = =3D cellar, I was somewhat short of time but I don't regret any of it. I =3D guess there is a time for all things and now it is my time to spend with = =3D those greats that habited this earth and created such beauty. =3D20 Paul ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: ALamirande@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: cheap rents for students/thoughts on brevity of life     If you're a music student and looking for cheap rents, I recommend =3D Montreal.=3D20   first of all: if you're a U.S. citizen, the rate of exchange will be =3D in your=3D20 favour.=3D20   second: the rents in Montreal are remarkably low, compared to almost =3D any=3D20 major (or even mid-sized) U.S. city; and most certainly a lot cheaper = =3D than=3D20 Toronto or Vancouver. And Montreal has some excellent music schools, = =3D at=3D20 McGill University (English-language) and Universite' de Montre'al =3D (French=3D20 language). The city also abounds in great organs --- some of them =3D dating=3D20 from the 19th century and historic.=3D20 L'Eglise de Tres Saint Nom de Jesus (Church of the Holy Name of =3D Jesus); St.=3D20 Jean-Baptiste; Notre Dame Basilica; la Cathedrale de Marie la Reine du = =3D Monde=3D20 (Cathedral of Mary, Queen of the World); and, of course, l'Oratoire =3D St.=3D20 Joseph (the great Beckerath there dates from 1960). Also the = Grande=3D20 Seminaire. And there is an interesting modern tracker at Christ =3D Church=3D20 Cathedral (although the acoustics there are very dry).=3D20   I always stay at a place on Cote des Neiges, close by to the Oratory. = =3D But=3D20 for a long-term stay, I'd recommend the "Plateau" --- to the east of =3D Parc=3D20 Mont Royal. It's very easy to get around Montreal, on the Metro. In = =3D the=3D20 Plateau, though, you'll have to speak French. Or use sign = language!=3D20   Naturally, the closer you are to downtown (Centre Ville), the higher =3D the=3D20 rents will get.=3D20   Re: Christopher Putnam in San Francisco: I met him briefly, last Nov. = =3D 11th. =3D20 I had no idea he was ill. (Maybe he didn't know it, either, back =3D then?) It=3D20 was only then that I learned John Fenstermaker had retired, and been =3D replaced=3D20 by Mr. Putnam.=3D20   Well, one never knows. Back a few years ago, when I was working in =3D the=3D20 Godbox in New York, I'd resort (for some liquid relief from all the =3D office=3D20 aggravation!) to the West End Cafe (popular with Columbia = University=3D20 students). They had a friendly bartender who hailed from Mississippi, = =3D whom I=3D20 taught to make a "shipwreck". (That's a specialty of the Hyatt Hotel = =3D in=3D20 Vancouver: a martini in which Scotch is substituted for vermouth.) =3D He=3D20 looked perfectly healthy to me. A few months later, when I hadn't =3D seen him=3D20 around for a while, I made inquiries, and was told that he was "sick". = =3D Not=3D20 long afterwards, I was told he was dead. The Big A, it seemed. =3D20   Same thing happened to a former co-worker at the Professional =3D Examination=3D20 Service (that's the company in the GodBox for which I worked). Saw =3D him in a=3D20 barber shop some time after he left the company: seemed quite healthy =3D to me. =3D20 A year later, I was told he had died. Same cause of death.=3D20   I'm older now than my father was, when he died (of a brain tumor). =3D Hope I've=3D20 inherited my mother's genes. (She's nearly 98, and still mentally =3D alert, if=3D20 physically feeble.)=3D20   Considering how short life is, I wonder why it is that people treat =3D each=3D20 other so uncharitably? Why, there are some who are known to have =3D carried a=3D20 grudge for 25 years and more! (Won't name any names, but some of them = =3D are=3D20 located in the aforementioned GodBox!) It does all seem rather silly, = =3D and in=3D20 the cosmic scope of things, utterly pointless.=3D20   That's one thing about the Catholics: they admit they are sinners, in = =3D need=3D20 of repentance and forgiveness. No claims to being either "elect" or =3D "saved".=3D20   Arthur LaMirande=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0022_01C0B22E.8A8537C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Art, I have to agree about the = =3D brevity of=3D20 life. I too have outlived my father by a year and a half. I'm 59 pushing = =3D 60. To=3D20 think that my father told me I would not live to see 21. My mother also = =3D lived to=3D20 83 but all of the men in my family except for one did not live past = 60.=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; All I can say is = all =3D I have is=3D20 today. Yesterday cannot be changed and tomorrow is not here. That's why = =3D I=3D20 continue to work on those pieces of music that I always wanted to play =3D but had=3D20 either no time or endurance. Spending 5 days a week on the road and the = =3D sixth=3D20 and seventh working to restore an old Victorian house before we all =3D wound up in=3D20 the cellar, I was somewhat short of time but I don't regret any of it. I = =3D guess=3D20 there is a time for all things and now it is my time to spend with those = =3D greats=3D20 that habited this earth and created such =3D beauty.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= =3D ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n= =3D bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 Paul</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DALamirande@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:ALamirande@aol.com">ALamirande@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 21, 2001 = =3D 1:40=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> cheap rents for=3D20 students/thoughts on brevity of life</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>If you're = a =3D music=3D20 student and looking for cheap rents, I recommend Montreal. =3D <BR><BR>first of=3D20 all: if you're a U.S. citizen, the rate of exchange will be in your=3D20 <BR>favour. <BR><BR>second: the rents in Montreal are remarkably low, = =3D compared=3D20 to almost any <BR>major (or even mid-sized) U.S. city; and most =3D certainly a=3D20 lot cheaper than <BR>Toronto or Vancouver. &nbsp;And Montreal has some =3D   excellent music schools, at <BR>McGill University (English-language) =3D and=3D20 Universite' de Montre'al (French <BR>language). &nbsp;The city also =3D abounds in=3D20 great organs --- some of them dating <BR>from the 19th century and =3D historic.=3D20 <BR>L'Eglise de Tres Saint Nom de Jesus (Church of the Holy Name of =3D Jesus);=3D20 St. <BR>Jean-Baptiste; Notre Dame Basilica; la Cathedrale de Marie la = =3D Reine du=3D20 Monde <BR>(Cathedral of Mary, Queen of the World); and, of course, =3D l'Oratoire=3D20 St. <BR>Joseph (the great Beckerath there dates from 1960). &nbsp;Also = =3D the=3D20 Grande <BR>Seminaire. &nbsp;And there is an interesting modern tracker = =3D at=3D20 Christ Church <BR>Cathedral (although the acoustics there are very =3D dry).=3D20 <BR><BR>I always stay at a place on Cote des Neiges, close by to the =3D Oratory.=3D20 &nbsp;But <BR>for a long-term stay, I'd recommend the "Plateau" --- to = =3D the=3D20 east of Parc <BR>Mont Royal. &nbsp;It's very easy to get around =3D Montreal, on=3D20 the Metro. &nbsp;In the <BR>Plateau, though, you'll have to speak =3D French.=3D20 &nbsp;Or use sign language! <BR><BR>Naturally, the closer you are to =3D downtown=3D20 (Centre Ville), the higher the <BR>rents will get. <BR><BR>Re: =3D Christopher=3D20 Putnam in San Francisco: I met him briefly, last Nov. 11th. &nbsp; =3D <BR>I had=3D20 no idea he was ill. &nbsp;(Maybe he didn't know it, either, back =3D then?)=3D20 &nbsp;It <BR>was only then that I learned John Fenstermaker had =3D retired, and=3D20 been replaced <BR>by Mr. Putnam. <BR><BR>Well, one never knows. =3D &nbsp;Back a=3D20 few years ago, when I was working in the <BR>Godbox in New York, I'd =3D resort=3D20 (for some liquid relief from all the office <BR>aggravation!) to the =3D West End=3D20 Cafe (popular with Columbia University <BR>students). &nbsp;They had a = =3D   friendly bartender who hailed from Mississippi, whom I <BR>taught to =3D make a=3D20 "shipwreck". &nbsp;(That's a specialty of the Hyatt Hotel in =3D <BR>Vancouver:=3D20 &nbsp;a martini in which Scotch is substituted for vermouth.) &nbsp;He = =3D   <BR>looked perfectly healthy to me. &nbsp;A few months later, when I =3D hadn't=3D20 seen him <BR>around for a while, I made inquiries, and was told that =3D he was=3D20 "sick". &nbsp;Not <BR>long afterwards, I was told he was dead. =3D &nbsp;The Big=3D20 A, it seemed. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>Same thing happened to a former =3D co-worker=3D20 at the Professional Examination <BR>Service (that's the company in the = =3D GodBox=3D20 for which I worked). &nbsp;Saw him in a <BR>barber shop some time =3D after he=3D20 left the company: seemed quite healthy to me. &nbsp; <BR>A year later, = =3D I was=3D20 told he had died. &nbsp;Same cause of death. <BR><BR>I'm older now =3D than my=3D20 father was, when he died (of a brain tumor). &nbsp;Hope I've =3D <BR>inherited my=3D20 mother's genes. &nbsp;(She's nearly 98, and still mentally alert, = if=3D20 <BR>physically feeble.) <BR><BR>Considering how short life is, I =3D wonder why it=3D20 is that people treat each <BR>other so uncharitably? &nbsp;Why, there = =3D are some=3D20 who are known to have carried a <BR>grudge for 25 years and more! =3D &nbsp;(Won't=3D20 name any names, but some of them are <BR>located in the aforementioned = =3D   GodBox!) &nbsp;It does all seem rather silly, and in <BR>the cosmic =3D scope of=3D20 things, utterly pointless. <BR><BR>That's one thing about the =3D Catholics:=3D20 &nbsp;they admit they are sinners, in need <BR>of repentance and =3D forgiveness.=3D20 &nbsp;No claims to being either "elect" or "saved". <BR><BR>Arthur=3D20 LaMirande</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0022_01C0B22E.8A8537C0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organs From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:53:35 EST   In a message dated 3/21/01 1:43:46 PM Central Standard Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << No such model, as far as I remember. TC-3, yes, >>   It must have been a misprint, I didn't have a chance to actually look = inside of the organ.   A related question: would the "electronic blower" in an electric organ = such as this be the source of the chiff?   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Organs From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:58:26 -0800   Yep.   AMADPoet@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 3/21/01 1:43:46 PM Central Standard Time, > desertbob@rglobal.net writes: > > << No such model, as far as I remember. TC-3, yes, >> > > It must have been a misprint, I didn't have a chance to actually look = inside > of the organ. > > A related question: would the "electronic blower" in an electric organ = such > as this be the source of the chiff? > > Mandy > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Indiana et al From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:57:17 EST     --part1_a7.cbb9d25.27ea8bcd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Most Americans are not very good at history. So most probably don't = realize that places like Indiana --- and all the rest of the Midwest --- were once =   part of New France.   Governed either from Quebec or from Nouvelle Orle'ans (New Orleans).   The Battle of the Plains of Abraham (1759) settled all that. Oh, for you ingenues: that was a battle between France and Britain which took place on = a field just outside Quebec City in 1759, called the Plains of Abraham. On = all automobile license plates in Quebec province nowadays, there is a motto: = "Je me reviens". ((I remember.) And what is it that is being remembered? = That defeat of France by Britain on the Plains of Abraham in 1759, that's what!   Incidentally, both of the opposing generals died in that conflict: = Montcalm of France and Wolfe of Britain. In modern Montreal, you can find streets named for both gentlemen. (In those days, generals evidently fought with their troops in the front lines. Unlike our modern warfare. General Schwarzkopf was never in any personal danger during that Gulf War. Nor = were Eisenhower or MacArthur during World War II. Nor were those generals in = the First World War who mindlessly send men by the millions to be slaughtered = in the trenches.)   Getting back to the narrative: France founded many towns and cities in = what is now the U.S. Midwest. Vincennes in Indiana, for example. Marquette = and La Prairie in Wisconsin. And, of course, such major cities as De'troit (Michigan); St. Louis (Missouri); Louisville (Kentucky); Des Moines = (Iowa); and New Orleans (Louisiana).   I do believe that Notre Dame University in Indiana was founded by a French =   order of priests. And I strongly suspect that they did NOT pronounce it: =   Note - Er - Dayme!   So the French influence in the area may account for some of the = surprisingly large churches which one may encounter in odd places in the region.   Britain took over the area in 1763, only to be confronted with a = revolution from those Yankee upstarts in the 13 Atlantic colonies --- led by an aristocrat from Virginia, no less! After the peace of 1783, a new border = was drawn, quite arbitrarily, which generally left everything north of the = Great Lakes to Britain, and everything south thereof to the new United States. East of the Mississippi, that is. The United States acquired the vast territories west of the Mississippi in 1805, from Napoleon. (The = aboriginal peoples were not consulted.)   And what does all this have to do with organs? Not a lot, since those 18th-century French towns were unlikely to have had any. It was the frontier, after all. I wonder if anyone has any information on when the first organs were installed in New Orleans, for example? Or St. Louis? Those would have been the pre-eminent French cities in the region, prior = to Jefferson's land grab in 1805.   Arthur LaMirande   P.S. I wonder how many American schoolchildren know that California began = as a Spanish colony? Where do they think all those Spanish names (of cities) =   came from? There are still a number of Spanish churches in California, dating from the 18th century. (I wonder how many of them have organs, and =   whether any of these are baroque Spanish organs.)   --part1_a7.cbb9d25.27ea8bcd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Most Americans are not = very good at history. &nbsp;So most probably don't realize <BR>that places like Indiana --- and all the rest of the Midwest --- were = once <BR>part of New France. <BR> <BR>Governed either from Quebec or from Nouvelle Orle'ans (New Orleans). <BR> <BR>The Battle of the Plains of Abraham (1759) settled all that. &nbsp;Oh, = for you <BR>ingenues: that was a battle between France and Britain which took = place on a <BR>field just outside Quebec City in 1759, called the Plains of Abraham. &nbsp;On all <BR>automobile license plates in Quebec province nowadays, there is a = motto: &nbsp;"Je <BR>me reviens". &nbsp;((I remember.) &nbsp;And what is it that is being = remembered? &nbsp;That <BR>defeat of France by Britain on the Plains of Abraham in 1759, that's = what! <BR> <BR>Incidentally, both of the opposing generals died in that conflict: = &nbsp;Montcalm <BR>of France and Wolfe of Britain. &nbsp;In modern Montreal, you can find = streets <BR>named for both gentlemen. &nbsp;(In those days, generals evidently = fought with <BR>their troops in the front lines. &nbsp;Unlike our modern warfare. = &nbsp;General <BR>Schwarzkopf was never in any personal danger during that Gulf War. = &nbsp;Nor were <BR>Eisenhower or MacArthur during World War II. &nbsp;Nor were those = generals in the <BR>First World War who mindlessly send men by the millions to be = slaughtered in <BR>the trenches.) <BR> <BR>Getting back to the narrative: &nbsp;France founded many towns and = cities in what <BR>is now the U.S. Midwest. &nbsp;Vincennes in Indiana, for example. = &nbsp;Marquette and <BR>La Prairie in Wisconsin. &nbsp;And, of course, such major cities as = De'troit <BR>(Michigan); St. Louis (Missouri); Louisville (Kentucky); Des Moines = (Iowa); <BR>and New Orleans (Louisiana). <BR> <BR>I do believe that Notre Dame University in Indiana was founded by a = French <BR>order of priests. &nbsp;And I strongly suspect that they did NOT = pronounce it: &nbsp; <BR>Note - Er - Dayme! <BR> <BR>So the French influence in the area may account for some of the = surprisingly <BR>large churches which one may encounter in odd places in the region. <BR> <BR>Britain took over the area in 1763, only to be confronted with a = revolution <BR>from those Yankee upstarts in the 13 Atlantic colonies --- led by an <BR>aristocrat from Virginia, no less! &nbsp;After the peace of 1783, a = new border was <BR>drawn, quite arbitrarily, which generally left everything north of the = Great <BR>Lakes to Britain, and everything south thereof to the new United = States. &nbsp; <BR>East of the Mississippi, that is. &nbsp;The United States acquired the = vast <BR>territories west of the Mississippi in 1805, from Napoleon. &nbsp;(The = aboriginal <BR>peoples were not consulted.) <BR> <BR>And what does all this have to do with organs? &nbsp;Not a lot, since = those <BR>18th-century French towns were unlikely to have had any. &nbsp;It was = the <BR>frontier, after all. &nbsp;I wonder if anyone has any information on = when the <BR>first organs were installed in New Orleans, for example? &nbsp;Or St. = Louis? &nbsp; <BR>Those would have been the pre-eminent French cities in the region, = prior to <BR>Jefferson's land grab in 1805. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande <BR> <BR>P.S. I wonder how many American schoolchildren know that California = began as <BR>a Spanish colony? &nbsp;Where do they think all those Spanish names = (of cities) <BR>came from? &nbsp;There are still a number of Spanish churches in = California, <BR>dating from the 18th century. &nbsp;(I wonder how many of them have = organs, and <BR>whether any of these are baroque Spanish organs.)</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a7.cbb9d25.27ea8bcd_boundary--  
(back) Subject: St. Mary's From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:10:23 EST     --part1_c1.c9d84af.27ea8edf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   To Jon C. Habermas:   You are thinking of OLD St. Mary's, in Chinatown. (Grant and California).   I was referring to the present Cathedral, which is located much further to =   the west. Let's see: corner of Gough and --- oh, I forget the name of the other = street. One block west of Van Ness. Slightly to the northwest of City Hall.   There IS more to San Francisco than downtown!   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_c1.c9d84af.27ea8edf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>To Jon C. Habermas: <BR> <BR>You are thinking of OLD St. Mary's, in Chinatown. &nbsp;(Grant and = California). <BR> <BR>I was referring to the present Cathedral, which is located much = further to <BR>the west. <BR>Let's see: corner of Gough and --- oh, I forget the name of the other = street. <BR>&nbsp;One block west of Van Ness. &nbsp;Slightly to the northwest of = City Hall. <BR> <BR>There IS more to San Francisco than downtown! <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_c1.c9d84af.27ea8edf_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Why Little Interest in Learning Organ? one useless opinion From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:17:21 EST   In a message dated 3/21/01 4:12:14 PM Central Standard Time, = RMaryman@aol.com writes:   << Most parents now-a-days are products of the 1970's do-your-own-thing attitude, they having decided years ago that "I'll never force my kids to = do the things my parents made me do" - susch as music lessons, etc.. >>   Here here...my father tried everything he could think of to keep me from going into music. Everything is so money driven these days, and musicians just don't make as much as network administrators and football players. My =   sis and I started off wanting to go into music, but we both went into = college majoring in non-musical subjects. Now we're music ed and organ perf/musicology majors respectively. My dad just shakes his head, but he knows by now not to argue with women, hehe.   A couple of people in my family originally thought that classical music = was "snobbish" and that I looked down on them because I listen to it. I = finally started forcing them to listen to the music I listen to, and they realized =   how accessible and glorious it can be, because it's REAL and honest.   I think an overall return to the classical arts would be terrific for this =   country. Here in Dallas Andrew Litton and the DSO have educational = programs for children, free summer concerts targeting families, and a musical prep program for kids who couldn't afford to play instruments otherwise. Litton = is a gem, but I would like to think there are similar programs out there.   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: Indiana et al From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:19:24 EST     --part1_7e.128b16ba.27ea90fc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/21/2001 6:00:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, ALamirande@aol.com writes:     > On all > automobile license plates in Quebec province nowadays, there is a motto: = > "Je > me reviens". ((I remember.)   Gosh, last I knew, it was "Je me souviens," from the same root as = souvenir. "Je me reviens" sounds like I return. Venir, revenir . . . .   Merde,   Malcolm Wechsler   --part1_7e.128b16ba.27ea90fc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/21/2001 6:00:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>ALamirande@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">On all <BR>automobile license plates in Quebec province nowadays, there is a = motto: &nbsp; <BR>"Je <BR>me reviens". &nbsp;((I remember.) &nbsp;</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Gosh, last I knew, it was "Je me souviens," from the same root as = souvenir. <BR>"Je me reviens" sounds like I return. Venir, revenir . . . . <BR> <BR>Merde, <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7e.128b16ba.27ea90fc_boundary--