PipeChat Digest #1937 - Thursday, March 22, 2001
 
Why little interest? I think I know first hand.
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: California mission organs(Spanish Churches)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: Why little interest? I think I know first hand. From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:46:34 EST     --part1_dd.11ea690c.27eb07da_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello all organists, I think the reason behind there being little interest in learning the = organ is that they do look very formidable and difficult to play. I am only 18 years old (and probably the youngest member on the list) and have played the organ for about 6 years now. I am not that prominent with =   talent (on the organ) and I do lack discipline and technique. Sometimes I = am let down when I see or hear other organists play, because it makes me feel =   like I will NEVER be that good. Also depending on which church I play in (which is quite a lot of churches) some people can complain an awful lot. = I love the use of strings and flutes with Celestes, and Tremulants, but then = I also love the use of straight reeds and diapasons, or vice versa. Some churches like the "high church" organ music, and some don't. I am from a small town of about 4,000 people, and we surprisingly have two pipe = organs, and a number of fabulous new Allen organs in the towns' 36 churches. And = I am the only person my age who has ever played the organ (or piano for that =   matter) in most of these churches, and I have received a great amount of persecution from other students my age, making it harder to keep the will = to play. But, I do have a lot of churches that want me to play and sometimes = it can seem overwhelming. Whenever I get depressed I just sit at the piano and play for hours, and = my previous organ teacher ridiculed this practice as being "a continuance of keeping and forming bad habits, and lacking self control and discipline." I don't know, I guess I will never be very good. I can't even make a = Hammond sound any good as was proved in the new position I just left. I was told = to step down because of the lifestyle I was living didn't reflect their = beliefs. They told me to straiten up, or get out. So I got out. Also, one of the choir directors of a church in the town where I grew up asked me to come and try out the 80 year old 11 rank organ (I believe its = a Tracker). When I got there he was gone and I told the secretary what he said. Since he was not there, the secretary was not able to authorize the =   use of the organ so she called one of the churches "prominent" ladies. = The lady drove over to the church and told me that no one was ever allowed to play the organ unless they had previously had 4-6 years of formal lessons, = so that some inexperience organist did not come and break the instrument that =   was valued at a measly $10,000. Little did she know that my dad is the = one who installed the organ! Nor did I know that general use of the organ = could cause any damage to the instrument. I'm sure that explains why the church =   has no organist, and has not had one since the organ was moved from the = old church to the new church in 1995. Also the new church (which cost over $700,000 to build) is now only used once a month I guess that is my opinion on the subject. Just a lack of support, and = being very discouraged.   Feeling down in Texas, Josh White   --part1_dd.11ea690c.27eb07da_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello all organists, <BR>I think the reason behind there being little interest in learning the = organ <BR>is that they do look very formidable and difficult to play. <BR>I am only 18 years old (and probably the youngest member on the list) = and <BR>have played the organ for about 6 years now. &nbsp;I am not that = prominent with <BR>talent (on the organ) and I do lack discipline and technique. = &nbsp;Sometimes I am <BR>let down when I see or hear other organists play, because it makes me = feel <BR>like I will NEVER be that good. &nbsp;Also depending on which church I = play in <BR>(which is quite a lot of churches) some people can complain an awful = lot. &nbsp;I <BR>love the use of strings and flutes with Celestes, and Tremulants, but then I <BR>also love the use of straight reeds and diapasons, or vice versa. = &nbsp;Some <BR>churches like the "high church" organ music, and some don't. &nbsp;I = am from a <BR>small town of about 4,000 people, and we surprisingly have two pipe = organs, <BR>and a number of fabulous new Allen organs in the towns' 36 churches. = &nbsp;And I <BR>am the only person my age who has ever played the organ (or piano for = that <BR>matter) in most of these churches, and I have received a great amount = of <BR>persecution from other students my age, making it harder to keep the = will to <BR>play. &nbsp;But, I do have a lot of churches that want me to play and = sometimes it <BR>can seem overwhelming. <BR>Whenever I get depressed I just sit at the piano and play for hours, = and my <BR>previous organ teacher ridiculed this practice as being "a continuance = of <BR>keeping and forming bad habits, and lacking self control and = discipline." <BR>I don't know, I guess I will never be very good. &nbsp;I can't even = make a Hammond <BR>sound any good as was proved in the new position I just left. &nbsp;I = was told to <BR>step down because of the lifestyle I was living didn't reflect their = beliefs. <BR>&nbsp;They told me to straiten up, or get out. &nbsp;So I got out. <BR>Also, one of the choir directors of a church in the town where I grew = up <BR>asked me to come and try out the 80 year old 11 rank organ (I believe = its a <BR>Tracker). &nbsp;When I got there he was gone and I told the secretary = what he <BR>said. &nbsp;Since he was not there, the secretary was not able to = authorize the <BR>use of the organ so she called one of the churches "prominent" ladies. = &nbsp;The <BR>lady drove over to the church and told me that no one was ever allowed = to <BR>play the organ unless they had previously had 4-6 years of formal = lessons, so <BR>that some inexperience organist did not come and break the instrument = that <BR>was valued at a measly $10,000. &nbsp;Little did she know that my dad = is the one <BR>who installed the organ! Nor did I know that general use of the organ = could <BR>cause any damage to the instrument. &nbsp;I'm sure that explains why = the church <BR>has no organist, and has not had one since the organ was moved from = the old <BR>church to the new church in 1995. &nbsp;Also the new church (which = cost over <BR>$700,000 to build) is now only used once a month <BR>I guess that is my opinion on the subject. &nbsp;Just a lack of = support, and being <BR>very discouraged. <BR> <BR>Feeling down in Texas, <BR>Josh White</FONT></HTML>   --part1_dd.11ea690c.27eb07da_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: California mission organs(Spanish Churches) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:58:25 -0800   At 02:01 AM 3/22/2001 -0500, you wrote: >The San Fernando Mission has a Kilgen Petite Ensemble 3-4 rank self = contained >pipe organ in addition to a Conn electronic of considerable vintage. They >don't use either organ very often. I've played many funerals on the = Kilgen >and, like the one here in my home, is a delight to play. <snip>   I've seen/heard Kyle's "Petite Ensemble", and I must say, it's a nice little instrument! I don't know how many Kilgen built, but they are fine little house organs, indeed.   DeserTBoB