PipeChat Digest #1939 - Thursday, March 22, 2001
 
Big Choral/Organ Palm Sunday and Easter Works
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Music For Holy Week
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Organ Duets?
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Other San Fran Organs of Note
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: California mission organs(Spanish Churches)
  by "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com>
Re: Some good advice for beginning organists
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Easter in San Francisco
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Some good advice for beginning organists
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: gracecom locaion s.f.
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Why little interest? I think I know first hand.
  by "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com>
 

(back) Subject: Big Choral/Organ Palm Sunday and Easter Works From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:00:37 EST     --part1_105.a1ff19.27eb7ba5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   HELP!!!!! =3D3Do)   I am in search of some new Holy Week titles to look over, not for this = year=3D20 of course but I am always trying to find new repertoire that the choir = would=3D =3D20 enjoy and that would lend well to our Liturgies here at the National = Shrine.   As would be expected, we currently have in our library and use the = following=3D :   The Holy City (Adams) Hosanna To the Son of David (Weelkes) The Palms (the OTHER Faur=3DE9 and, we're Catholic- it's obligatory!) = =3D3Do) Ave Verum(s) (Byrd, Faure, Mozart, Guilmant, Elgar etc) Sing Ye To the Lord (Bairstow) Lacrymosa (Mozart) Crucifixus (Bach) O Saviour of the World (Goss) Ye Choirs of New Jerusalem (Stanford) Light's Glittering Morn Bedecks the Skies (Parker) Christ Our Passover (MacFarlane) Alleluia! Hearts to Heaven and Voices Raise (Stanton) Let All the World In Every Corner Sing (Vaughan Williams) Rise, Heart (Vaughan Williams) Christus Vincit (Noyon) the big double chorus from Israel in Egypt (title escapes me) by Handel   Bairstow's "The Promise Which Was Made Unto the Forefathers" also comes = to=3D20 mind but it pales seriously in comparison to his "Sing Ye To the Lord." We have more but the above list will give a good representation of = the=3D20 good-quality repertoire that I am thinking of. =3D20   So, what might some of you suggest for good pieces for Holy Thursday, = Good=3D20 Friday, the Solemn Vigil of Easter and Easter Day? =3D20   Aren't there also some fine pieces for Easter by Eric Thiman?=3D20   Any input and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son, Opus 5180, 1933) "Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens: fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar."     --part1_105.a1ff19.27eb7ba5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>HELP!!!!! = &nbsp;&nbsp;=3D =3D3Do) <BR> <BR>I am in search of some new Holy Week titles to look over, not for this = y=3D ear=3D20 <BR>of course but I am always trying to find new repertoire that the choir = w=3D ould=3D20 <BR>enjoy and that would lend well to our Liturgies here at the National = Shr=3D ine. <BR> <BR>As would be expected, we currently have in our library and use the = follo=3D wing: <BR> <BR>The Holy City (Adams) <BR>Hosanna To the Son of David (Weelkes) <BR>The Palms (the OTHER Faur=3DE9 and, we're Catholic- it's obligatory!) = &nbs=3D p;&nbsp;=3D3Do) <BR>Ave Verum(s) (Byrd, Faure, Mozart, Guilmant, Elgar etc) <BR>Sing Ye To the Lord (Bairstow) <BR>Lacrymosa (Mozart) <BR>Crucifixus (Bach) <BR>O Saviour of the World (Goss) <BR>Ye Choirs of New Jerusalem (Stanford) <BR>Light's Glittering Morn Bedecks the Skies (Parker) <BR>Christ Our Passover (MacFarlane) <BR>Alleluia! Hearts to Heaven and Voices Raise (Stanton) <BR>Let All the World In Every Corner Sing (Vaughan Williams) <BR>Rise, Heart (Vaughan Williams) <BR>Christus Vincit (Noyon) <BR>the big double chorus from Israel in Egypt (title escapes me) by = Handel <BR> <BR>Bairstow's "The Promise Which Was Made Unto the Forefathers" also = comes=3D20=3D to=3D20 <BR>mind but it pales seriously in comparison to his "Sing Ye To the = Lord." <BR>We have more but the above list will give a good representation of = the=3D20 <BR>good-quality repertoire that I am thinking of. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>So, what might some of you suggest for good pieces for Holy Thursday, = Go=3D od=3D20 <BR>Friday, the Solemn Vigil of Easter and Easter Day? &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Aren't there also some fine pieces for Easter by Eric Thiman?=3D20 <BR> <BR>Any input and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. &nbsp;Thanks! <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and = L=3D iturgy <BR>The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR><I>"Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens: <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar."</I> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_105.a1ff19.27eb7ba5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Music For Holy Week From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:10 -0800   There's a Gounod setting of the Seven Last Words, for unaccompanied choir (I think it goes into 8 parts at the end) that's absolutely gorgeous ... it's an OLD Novello edition, if you can find it. I'm thinking of teaching it to the choir to sing during communion on Good Friday next year. I think Novello called it a "Passion" by Gounod ... I've got it around here somewhere, but it's so tattered I don't think it'll reproduce. If I'm not mistaken, an English version came in last summer with all that old choir music that was donated ... the original is in Latin.   Give me a fax number and I'll fax you a copy of Schilling's "Christ Our Passover" ... it's great fun, and it's in the public domain.   You don't list a "Sicut cervus" for the Procession to the Font at the Easter Vigil ... there are many ... Palestrina, etc.   There's a Vittoria "Hosanna filio David" in English in one of the Concordia motet books ... I'll look and see which one.   I have the "Pange lingua" for Maundy Thursday AND Good Friday written out, with the Palestrina alternate verses, if you don't have it. We use the Maundy Thursday tune for both days, since the congregation knows it, and the Good Friday tune is IMPOSSIBLE to sing, at least for the people.   I also have an "Ubi caritas" with fauxbourdons, if you don't sing the Durufle for the Mandatum.   We do T. Tertius Noble's "Go to Dark Gethsemane" for the anthem on Maundy Thursday ... that's still in print ... STUNNING piece.   I'm stuck on a little out-of-print Palm Sunday carol about the donkey (grin) ... it's simplistic, but it tells the story so well ... the title is "Why Does He Seem To Be So Sad?" ... Lorenz published it ... they gave me permission to reprint it. We've done it for three years now, and the choir will have no other (grin) ... one of these days I'll move it to Communion so we can sing something ELSE for a change (grin). But it's hard to find Palm Sunday OFFERTORY anthems ... the shouting is over, the Passion has been sung ... "Ride On, Ride On In Majesty" is really about the only other familiar text that fits at THAT point.   That's all I can think of at the moment ...   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Organ Duets? From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:07:56 -0800 (PST)     Hi or as we say in the South...Hey!   I have heard the topic on organ duets touched on here on the list but would like to know more about this topic. Do any of you play duets on one organ? Is there much music written for this purpose?   As great as one organ sounds,,,can't imagine the sound of a duet!! :-)       =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Other San Fran Organs of Note From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:14:15 -0800 (PST)   The large Kimball at 1st Church of Christ Scientist for Historic Value   The small and delightful Bigelow either/or tracker at All Saints' = Episcopal   The Murray Harris at the big Temple - Shrieth Israel (??) almost = untouched.   E.M. Skinner at the Legion of Honor Museum in GG Park, miticulously = restored after the 89 'quake by Ed Stout, but I was very dissapointed since it is = quite burried and, quite unfortunately, almost inaudible unless the 25" Military Trumpet is on or you are standing right under the routunda.   There are numerous interesting organs all over the Bay area, but I think = the best of the best have been mentioned. The SFAGO website has links to = others. Berkeley has a long list of nice instruments, but nothing much past the neo-baroque era.   The further south you go, the worse it gets. Stanford Memorial Church has = 3 great instruments, and there are a number of neo-baroque instruments of = note. Several large run-of-the-mill E/P organs.   Theatre Organs - these are the ones I know of:   Berkeley Theatre, large ATOS Wurlitzer 4 man. Oakland Paramount, Large Wurli 4 man. Castro Theatre - Large Wurli ? manuals Stanford Theatre in Palo alto has a wonderful 3/21 Wurli hybrid by Ed = Stout, however, it is so big you need to sit in the balcony to put a bit of = distance. The Peninsula Chapter recently hosted a Theatre Organ/Classical Organ with = the ATOS, and I thought the Wurli sounded wonderful, and visiting the 2 = Flentrops at All Saints', Palo Alto, didn't quite measure up!   In San Jose, at the MARVELOUS RC Cathedral, there is a sizable late 1800's Odell tracker restored by Ed Stout - I have not heard it, since rarely is = there a reason to go to San Jose!   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: California mission organs(Spanish Churches) From: "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:25:55   The Carmel Mission Basilica has a very nice Casavant, installed in the middle to late 80's. Joyce Jones played a recital there as part of the = 1989 AGO Region 9 convention. Sorry, don't have the specs.   David Carter   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Some good advice for beginning organists From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:34:52 EST   Hi Josh:   You bring up a number of issues, but let's look at the most important one first. You need a practice organ at home. Two, you need to be patient with yourself as anything worth doing takes time. Practice slowly right hand alone, work out fingerings, left hand alone, w.o.f. pedal alone, work out toes and heals. Add right hand and pedal, left hand and pedal, then right hand and left hand and pedal. It seems like it's taking too long? This is the only way to get to your goal, there are absolutely no short cuts. We've all had to deal with this, even Felix Hell. Ever heard of him? Well, he does this as a routine part of his practice. Chris Pardini, organist of Crystal Cathedral, took a whole year to be able to play the Derufle Toccata, I know because he told me. Buy a copy of the Gleason Book on organ playing, get a good relyable teacher, and get to work! It won't happen over night, but little by little, it will g= et easier and easier. Take it one day at a time like all the rest of us, as we'= ve all faced this problem. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right in the=20 first place.   95% of all you will do as an organist is present hymns well played for people to sing, anthems, and service music. You'll realize this is probably the most important specialty you could learn to do. It puts food on the table and insures your future independence.   Next issue, appearance! I suspect you know what I'm talking about. If that needs work, it's very simple! Lose the earings, beard, wear your hair in an acceptable fashon, clean hands and face, suitable dress code. This all spells success for your chosen instrument, and field of fututre work.   Next issue, Your peers: Don't worry about them! Ten years from now, you won't know any of them, or see most of them ever again. You and they will have moved on to bigger and better things. College, careers, jail, marriage, and yes some will die for various reasons. Maintain your integrety, and don't bend particularly to fads and other silly things. Remember, when you have begun to arrive, and can do and play wonderful things at the organ, people will look up to you, and you'll wonder how your success happened so fast. You'll forget about the struggle, and=20 bask in the light of giving good service. Do people completely arrive in music, the answer is no never, but we get better each day, with each new problem solved, and going on to the next one. This is life long persuit that ends when it's time to meet God forever!   Regards, (My 2=A2)   Ron Severin   PS This is for teens especially, since things worth while happen slowly at first, and we are all different. We all have different talents given to u= s=20 to work with. That's what makes each individual unique!  
(back) Subject: RE: Easter in San Francisco From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:45:13 -0600   How about across from the Huntington and "kiddy corner" to the Mark = Hopkins?     -----Original Message----- From: Jackson R. Williams II [mailto:jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:43 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Easter in San Francisco     Grace Cathedral is not across from the Mark Hopkins Hotel, but rather kiddy corner from the Huntington Hotel.    
(back) Subject: Re: Some good advice for beginning organists From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:52:27 -0800       RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Hi Josh: > > Next issue, appearance! I suspect you know what I'm talking about. If > that needs work, it's very simple! Lose the earings, beard, wear your = hair > in an acceptable fashon, clean hands and face, suitable dress code. This > all spells success for your chosen instrument, and field of fututre = work.   Naw ... just git outta Texas (grin). Texas is SCARY. I did some grad work = at SMU .... after a year I fled back to the relative safety of OHIO (grin).   I've had a beard ever since HIGH SCHOOL (grin), a ponytail, and = (currently) a shaved head, and I play in one of the most conservative Anglican churches = in the WORLD (grin). They probably put up with me because I'm OLD and scary = (grin). THAT you have to EARN (grin).   > Next issue, Your peers: Don't worry about them!   Amen to THAT! I was the only male organist in a couple of TEENY-TINY = little towns in Florida. I left the MINUTE I graduated from high school. A dude who = could play "Rock Around the Clock" by ear got "Most Talented." So what? I'VE had the = career ....   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: RE: gracecom locaion s.f. From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:10:43 -0800 (PST)   > > Grace Cathedral is not across from the Mark Hopkins > Hotel, but rather kiddy corner from the Huntington > Hotel.   It is directly across the street from the Masonic Headquarters and = Auditorium. The Hopkins is a block or two away, but you can get a damn good view of = the Cathedral from the top of the Mark!   Isn't it the Flood Mansion - the only surviving pre 06 'quake residence - = to survive on Nob Hill, that is directly across the cross-street from the cathedral's front doors.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Why little interest? I think I know first hand. From: "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:25:14 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_005C_01C0B2CB.257C9240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hello Josh, Don't become discouraged by feeling that you might not be able to play =3D as well as some of the great performers that you hear. Talents run in a = =3D multi-faceted gamut, and sometimes they develop later. You might find =3D that you have more of a talent with organ building, organ design, or =3D accoustical studies. The fact that you have a desire to play is a =3D desire well worth persuing and I encourage you to not give up. I don't = =3D play well, but I love being involved with pipe organs, nevertheless.(I =3D majored in organ for 3 years at college and was ecouraged to find =3D another major((like geology)). 26 yrs later at age 44 I still =3D substitute at churches occasionally, and emphatically enjoy being =3D involved with pipe organs by attending OHS conventions, various organ =3D recitals and organ crawls of my own venture and with our local AGO =3D chapter.) You state that there are churches that want you to play--I'd encourage =3D you to play for them and not worry about those churches that fuss about = =3D your playing. What works in one setting doesn't necessarily work in =3D another, vice versa. The important thing is there is a need for =3D organists and if you can fill a position, then you've already =3D accomplished something of importance. You can please lots of poeple and = =3D be of great value as an organist without being an absolute =3D virtuoso.(it'll just give you a goal to continue to aspire to) Also, if = =3D you can persevere with your endeavors as an organist while fellow =3D students mock, it shows all the more character on your part. After all, = =3D you ARE doing something worthwhile. I would just say Good Luck, don't become discouraged and Keep the Faith! -Gary Abilene, Texas   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Pologaptommy@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:46 AM Subject: Why little interest? I think I know first hand.=3D20     Hello all organists,=3D20 I think the reason behind there being little interest in learning the = =3D organ=3D20 is that they do look very formidable and difficult to play.=3D20 I am only 18 years old (and probably the youngest member on the list) = =3D and=3D20 have played the organ for about 6 years now. I am not that prominent = =3D with=3D20 talent (on the organ) and I do lack discipline and technique. =3D Sometimes I am=3D20 let down when I see or hear other organists play, because it makes me = =3D feel=3D20 like I will NEVER be that good. Also depending on which church I play = =3D in=3D20 (which is quite a lot of churches) some people can complain an awful =3D lot. I=3D20 love the use of strings and flutes with Celestes, and Tremulants, but = =3D then I=3D20 also love the use of straight reeds and diapasons, or vice versa. =3D Some=3D20 churches like the "high church" organ music, and some don't. I am =3D from a=3D20 small town of about 4,000 people, and we surprisingly have two pipe =3D organs,=3D20 and a number of fabulous new Allen organs in the towns' 36 churches. = =3D And I=3D20 am the only person my age who has ever played the organ (or piano for = =3D that=3D20 matter) in most of these churches, and I have received a great amount = =3D of=3D20 persecution from other students my age, making it harder to keep the =3D will to=3D20 play. But, I do have a lot of churches that want me to play and =3D sometimes it=3D20 can seem overwhelming.=3D20 Whenever I get depressed I just sit at the piano and play for hours, =3D and my=3D20 previous organ teacher ridiculed this practice as being "a continuance = =3D of=3D20 keeping and forming bad habits, and lacking self control and =3D discipline."=3D20 I don't know, I guess I will never be very good. I can't even make a = =3D Hammond=3D20 sound any good as was proved in the new position I just left. I was =3D told to=3D20 step down because of the lifestyle I was living didn't reflect their =3D beliefs.=3D20 They told me to straiten up, or get out. So I got out.=3D20 Also, one of the choir directors of a church in the town where I grew = =3D up=3D20 asked me to come and try out the 80 year old 11 rank organ (I believe = =3D its a=3D20 Tracker). When I got there he was gone and I told the secretary what = =3D he=3D20 said. Since he was not there, the secretary was not able to authorize = =3D the=3D20 use of the organ so she called one of the churches "prominent" ladies. = =3D The=3D20 lady drove over to the church and told me that no one was ever allowed = =3D to=3D20 play the organ unless they had previously had 4-6 years of formal =3D lessons, so=3D20 that some inexperience organist did not come and break the instrument = =3D that=3D20 was valued at a measly $10,000. Little did she know that my dad is =3D the one=3D20 who installed the organ! Nor did I know that general use of the organ = =3D could=3D20 cause any damage to the instrument. I'm sure that explains why the =3D church=3D20 has no organist, and has not had one since the organ was moved from =3D the old=3D20 church to the new church in 1995. Also the new church (which cost =3D over=3D20 $700,000 to build) is now only used once a month=3D20 I guess that is my opinion on the subject. Just a lack of support, =3D and being=3D20 very discouraged.=3D20   Feeling down in Texas,=3D20 Josh White=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_005C_01C0B2CB.257C9240 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1801" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hello Josh,</DIV> <DIV>Don't become discouraged by feeling that you might not be able to =3D play as=3D20 well as some of the great performers that you hear.&nbsp; Talents run in = =3D a=3D20 multi-faceted gamut, and sometimes they develop later.&nbsp; You might =3D find that=3D20 you have more of a talent with organ building, organ design, or =3D accoustical=3D20 studies.&nbsp; The fact that you have a desire to play is a desire well = =3D worth=3D20 persuing and I encourage you to not give up.&nbsp; I don't play well, =3D but=3D20 I&nbsp;love being involved with pipe organs, nevertheless.(I majored in = =3D organ=3D20 for 3 years at college and was ecouraged to find another major((like=3D20 geology)).&nbsp; 26 yrs later at age 44 I still substitute at = churches=3D20 occasionally, and emphatically enjoy being involved with pipe organs = by=3D20 attending OHS conventions, various organ recitals and organ crawls of my = =3D own=3D20 venture&nbsp;and with our local AGO chapter.)</DIV> <DIV>You state that there are churches that want you to play--I'd =3D encourage you=3D20 to play for them and not worry about those churches that fuss about your = =3D   playing.&nbsp; What works in one setting doesn't necessarily work in =3D another,=3D20 vice versa.&nbsp; The important thing is there is a need for organists =3D and if=3D20 you can fill a position, then you've already accomplished something = of=3D20 importance.&nbsp; You can please lots of poeple and be of great value as = =3D an=3D20 organist without being an absolute virtuoso.(it'll just give you a goal = =3D to=3D20 continue to aspire to)&nbsp; Also, if you can persevere with your =3D endeavors as=3D20 an organist while fellow students mock, it shows all the more character = =3D on your=3D20 part.&nbsp; After all, you ARE doing something worthwhile.</DIV> <DIV>I would just say Good Luck, don't become discouraged&nbsp;and Keep = =3D the=3D20 Faith!</DIV> <DIV>-Gary</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;Abilene, Texas</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DPologaptommy@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Pologaptommy@aol.com">Pologaptommy@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 22, 2001 = =3D 1:46=3D20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Why little interest? I = =3D think I=3D20 know first hand. </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>Hello all = =3D organists,=3D20 <BR>I think the reason behind there being little interest in learning = =3D the=3D20 organ <BR>is that they do look very formidable and difficult to play. = =3D <BR>I am=3D20 only 18 years old (and probably the youngest member on the list) and =3D <BR>have=3D20 played the organ for about 6 years now. &nbsp;I am not that prominent = =3D with=3D20 <BR>talent (on the organ) and I do lack discipline and technique.=3D20 &nbsp;Sometimes I am <BR>let down when I see or hear other organists =3D play,=3D20 because it makes me feel <BR>like I will NEVER be that good. =3D &nbsp;Also=3D20 depending on which church I play in <BR>(which is quite a lot of =3D churches)=3D20 some people can complain an awful lot. &nbsp;I <BR>love the use of =3D strings and=3D20 flutes with Celestes, and Tremulants, but then I <BR>also love the use = =3D of=3D20 straight reeds and diapasons, or vice versa. &nbsp;Some <BR>churches =3D like the=3D20 "high church" organ music, and some don't. &nbsp;I am from a <BR>small = =3D town of=3D20 about 4,000 people, and we surprisingly have two pipe organs, <BR>and = =3D a number=3D20 of fabulous new Allen organs in the towns' 36 churches. &nbsp;And I =3D <BR>am the=3D20 only person my age who has ever played the organ (or piano for that=3D20 <BR>matter) in most of these churches, and I have received a great =3D amount of=3D20 <BR>persecution from other students my age, making it harder to keep =3D the will=3D20 to <BR>play. &nbsp;But, I do have a lot of churches that want me to =3D play and=3D20 sometimes it <BR>can seem overwhelming. <BR>Whenever I get depressed I = =3D just=3D20 sit at the piano and play for hours, and my <BR>previous organ teacher = =3D   ridiculed this practice as being "a continuance of <BR>keeping and =3D forming bad=3D20 habits, and lacking self control and discipline." <BR>I don't know, I = =3D guess I=3D20 will never be very good. &nbsp;I can't even make a Hammond <BR>sound =3D any good=3D20 as was proved in the new position I just left. &nbsp;I was told to =3D <BR>step=3D20 down because of the lifestyle I was living didn't reflect their =3D beliefs.=3D20 <BR>&nbsp;They told me to straiten up, or get out. &nbsp;So I got out. = =3D   <BR>Also, one of the choir directors of a church in the town where I =3D grew up=3D20 <BR>asked me to come and try out the 80 year old 11 rank organ (I =3D believe its=3D20 a <BR>Tracker). &nbsp;When I got there he was gone and I told the =3D secretary=3D20 what he <BR>said. &nbsp;Since he was not there, the secretary was not = =3D able to=3D20 authorize the <BR>use of the organ so she called one of the = churches=3D20 "prominent" ladies. &nbsp;The <BR>lady drove over to the church and =3D told me=3D20 that no one was ever allowed to <BR>play the organ unless they had =3D previously=3D20 had 4-6 years of formal lessons, so <BR>that some inexperience =3D organist did=3D20 not come and break the instrument that <BR>was valued at a measly =3D $10,000.=3D20 &nbsp;Little did she know that my dad is the one <BR>who installed the = =3D organ!=3D20 Nor did I know that general use of the organ could <BR>cause any =3D damage to the=3D20 instrument. &nbsp;I'm sure that explains why the church <BR>has no =3D organist,=3D20 and has not had one since the organ was moved from the old <BR>church = =3D to the=3D20 new church in 1995. &nbsp;Also the new church (which cost over =3D <BR>$700,000 to=3D20 build) is now only used once a month <BR>I guess that is my opinion on = =3D the=3D20 subject. &nbsp;Just a lack of support, and being <BR>very discouraged. = =3D   <BR><BR>Feeling down in Texas, <BR>Josh White</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_005C_01C0B2CB.257C9240--