PipeChat Digest #1958 - Monday, March 26, 2001
 
Daveluy's origins
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: Daveluy's origins
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Daveluy's origins
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Stories in Glass Concert - March
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Stories in Glass Concert - March
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Tracker for sale in Seattle
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
"Purists"
  by "Panning" <jpanning@cal-net.net>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Acoustical Sealant
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: the Surf City ???
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: the Surf City ???
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Fw: Old technology, was PROBLEM SOLVED
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Fixing dented pipes
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Fixing dented pipes
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Organist, Choirmaster, or BOTH
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Acoustical Sealant
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: "Purists"
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Daveluy's origins From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:40:32 EST     --part1_6f.1314a1a2.27f13b80_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Note to Carlo Pietroniro:   M. Daveluy told me, personally, that he came from Victoriaville, Quebec.   Where, he said, there were many people with the surname "Lamirande".   I find it, frankly, rather hard to believe that you actually studied with him, inasmuch as you have already stated that you do not know this.   Are you a real person??? (Everyone I know in Montreal seems never to have =   heard of you.)   Perhaps you could help by identifying that parish church where you play, along with its street address and location, in which is to be found that electronic organ of which you are so proud.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_6f.1314a1a2.27f13b80_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Note to Carlo = Pietroniro: <BR> <BR>M. Daveluy told me, personally, that he came from Victoriaville, = Quebec. <BR> <BR>Where, he said, there were many people with the surname "Lamirande". <BR> <BR>I find it, frankly, rather hard to believe that you actually studied = with <BR>him, inasmuch as you have already stated that you do not know this. <BR> <BR>Are you a real person??? &nbsp;(Everyone I know in Montreal seems = never to have <BR>heard of you.) <BR> <BR>Perhaps you could help by identifying that parish church where you = play, <BR>along with its street address and location, in which is to be found = that <BR>electronic organ of which you are so proud. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6f.1314a1a2.27f13b80_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Daveluy's origins From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:55:45 -0500   Arthur,   you may 'know' people here in Montreal, but I was born here, and have = lived and worked here all my life. Am I a real person? Actually, no. I'm a = figment of your imagination. Everyone you know in Montreal, seems to have never heard of me? Big deal. Like I care!!! Daveluy told you personally that he was born in Victoriaville? Great.....I guess one would have to ask, as he doesn't go around making that known to everyone. You want me to identify = the parish in which I play which has the electronic organ I'm so proud of? Gee........are we getting a little upset with me? It seems to me that = you're getting your nose out of joint about this. I say a few things about = Daveluy, and you come back ranting and raving. Typical. Most of his fans tend to think he's the best thing since JSBach himself, and won't stand for anyone who doesn't think the same. Besides, why get so upset about someone who isn't a real person <G>   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Daveluy's origins From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:57:06 -0500   oh, and one more thing...........   if that was a note to me, why wasn't it sent to ME? Funny how some people derive pleasure from poking holes in people...in public.   Have a great day Mr. LaMirande!!!   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Stories in Glass Concert - March From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:12:20 +0800   Thanks Bruce, but I don't think Kane the Eonder Dog would every forgive me! Thanks for the spec. Bob E.   Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > Bob, > The organ was built by Pieter Visser in 1994, and is 3 manuals and 51 > ranks > (tracker with electric stop action, and two pedal stops on electric > action). > The complete specification and some photos are on my webpage > > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/StoriesInGlass > > You can skip over and visit the Beagles at Howling Acres while your > there, > too!! ;-) > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/    
(back) Subject: Re: Stories in Glass Concert - March From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:12:53 +0800   Thanks Bruce, but I don't think Kane the Wonder Dog would ever forgive me! Thanks for the spec. Bob E.   Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > Bob, > The organ was built by Pieter Visser in 1994, and is 3 manuals and 51 > ranks > (tracker with electric stop action, and two pedal stops on electric > action). > The complete specification and some photos are on my webpage > > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/StoriesInGlass > > You can skip over and visit the Beagles at Howling Acres while your > there, > too!! ;-) > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/    
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker for sale in Seattle From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:18:03 EST   Apologlies for the previous post, intended to be private. Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: "Purists" From: "Panning" <jpanning@cal-net.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:13:18 -0600   Carlo wrote: >There are many >organists here in Montreal who would never play anything that wasn't a = pipe >organ, and they're really missing out. Digital organs are part of the = organ >world, and we should give them their due respect. Raymond Daveluy = wouldn't >be caught dead playing anything that doesn't have pipes. His loss.......     Let's translate this for the rest of the musical world:   Evgeny Kissin wouldn't be caught dead playing a Rhodes electric piano. His loss... James Galway wouldn't be caught dead playing a Flutophone. His loss... Itzhak Perlman wouldn't be caught dead playing an electronic stick fiddle. His loss... ( http://members.aol.com/sfiddle/ )   Maybe it's me, but it seems a bit arrogant to suggest that such a musician and composer as Daveluy is somehow missing out because he chooses not to play a substitute for his chosen musical instrument.   John      
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:55 -0500   Oh John..............you totally missed the point.   I'm dropping this........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Acoustical Sealant From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:09:56 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01C0B630.BAA16A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Christ Church Cathedral in St. Louis is an interesting example of this =3D treatment. In 1929, in order to improve the appearance of the church, =3D Gustavino tiles (imitation stonework) were applied to the plaster of the = =3D walls, resulting in an extremely porous surface and ruining the =3D acoustics. In 1962 this problem was addressed by painting the walls =3D with several coats of a diluted solution of Elmers Glue All. This was =3D done at almost no cost by volunteers from the congregation, including =3D the present organist of our church. It resulted in an amazing =3D improvement of the acoustics.=3D20   John Speller=3D20 St. Mark's, St. Louis   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Diaphone64@hotmail.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Acoustical Sealant     Has anyone on the list worked first-hand with acoustical sealants in =3D churches? This is the kind to apply to porous plaster walls and brick. = =3D Do you have a preferance for any particular brand? =3D20 =3D20 Thanks, JC   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01C0B630.BAA16A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Dwindows-1252" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Christ Church Cathedral in St. Louis = is =3D an=3D20 interesting example of this treatment.&nbsp; In 1929, in order to =3D improve the=3D20 appearance of the church, Gustavino tiles (imitation stonework) were =3D applied to=3D20 the plaster of the walls, resulting in an extremely porous surface and =3D ruining=3D20 the acoustics.&nbsp; In 1962 this problem was addressed by painting the = =3D walls=3D20 with several coats of a diluted solution of Elmers Glue All.&nbsp; This = =3D was done=3D20 at almost no cost by volunteers from the congregation, including the =3D present=3D20 organist of our church.&nbsp; It resulted in an amazing improvement of =3D the=3D20 acoustics.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>John Speller</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>St. Mark's, St. Louis</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A href=3D3D"mailto:Diaphone64@hotmail.com"=3D20 title=3D3Ddiaphone64@hotmail.com>Diaphone64@hotmail.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org"=3D20 title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org>pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 25, 2001 = =3D 8:24=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Acoustical =3D Sealant</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Has anyone on the list worked =3D first-hand with=3D20 acoustical sealants in churches?&nbsp; This is the kind to apply to =3D porous=3D20 plaster walls and brick.&nbsp; Do you have a preferance for any =3D particular=3D20 brand?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2>JC</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01C0B630.BAA16A40--    
(back) Subject: Re: the Surf City ??? From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:16:16 EST   Carlo:   If you're adding pipes to your Rodgers, just made sure they're adequate = scale and wind pressure. Some of the Rodgers I've seen have small scale pipes on =   very low pressure. As a result, they have little impact if the room is = large.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:17:06 -0600   I think John was right on target!! Why are you quitting so easily? Roy   Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > Oh John..............you totally missed the point. > > I'm dropping this........ > > Carlo > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: the Surf City ??? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:18:46 -0500   Thanks for the advice Tom. We'll have to think about all these things = before anything gets done.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Old technology, was PROBLEM SOLVED From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:38:12 -0800   At 06:30 PM 3/26/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I'm GLAD I'm not a kid today (49yo). I well remember roaring steam locos, >and I cut my teeth on my dads workbench back home rebuilding gasoline >lawnmower engines -AND a go-cart!<snip>   It's nice to reminisce about the "good old days", but facts are facts. Steam locos were notorious polluters and huge consumers of non-replaceable fuels compared to modern diesel technology, as are the millions of the old Briggs and Strattons out doing weekend lawn warrior duty. In many ways, things ARE better now, but still need to change to cope with modern problems. Ignorance is bliss, to be sure, but as science =   finds more fact about our fragile ecosystems as well as our shrinking global economy, new, more efficient and cleaner ways of doing things much be found. It's interesting to see there are a LOT of the new Honda gas-electrics out on the road, despite GM's attempts to convince the = public that they were "unworkable".   Still, everyone should experience the thrill of seeing a 4-6-6-4 = Challenger or a modern 4-8-4, finely restored, at speed on some tangent track...raw displays of brake horsepower like that just aren't seen anymore. Years ago, I trekked up Cajon Pass to see the restored Santa Fe 5781, the class leader, take a train of rag-tag passenger cars up the grade on its first "revenue" run just after complete rebuilding. Although the F-45 tucked in =   behind it (a rarity in itself these days) was PROBABLY doing most of the work, judging from it being in Run 7, it was nonetheless great fun to see =   the old gal whirling and chuffing along, hurling a nice cloud of white steam skyward into the nippy air. I'd usually never go a foot out of my way to see any train go anywhere, but this was quite special...and worth the cold I got!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:23:31 -0500   Roy, I never 'quit'. I'm dropping it because everyone in entitled to their opinion. I stated mine, and John stated his. Besides, I have a lot going = on in my life right now, and the last thing I need is to get into any heated discussions with people on the internet.............   I will however say this---->I for one, play all organs (EP, tracker, electronic/digital). I'm open-minded. I don't look down on something just because it doesn't have pipes, or is powered by air. Believe me, there's enough hot air in our business as it.........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Fixing dented pipes From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:29:35 EST   Ron:   You are exactly right. Unfortunately, many times the dent is in the pipe foot, and that is a different matter entirely! That's where mine usually = are.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:34:26 -0600   The problem here is that the pipe organ is fighting for its life. If you = and others do not take a stand for the pipe organ, there will be none for you to play = in the future. Roy   Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > Roy, I never 'quit'. I'm dropping it because everyone in entitled to = their > opinion. I stated mine, and John stated his. Besides, I have a lot going = on > in my life right now, and the last thing I need is to get into any = heated > discussions with people on the internet............. > > I will however say this---->I for one, play all organs (EP, tracker, > electronic/digital). I'm open-minded. I don't look down on something = just > because it doesn't have pipes, or is powered by air. Believe me, there's > enough hot air in our business as it......... > > Carlo > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Fixing dented pipes From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:37:15 -0500   boy oh boy...........am I a dope or what?!? You all see what I wrote about this subject earlier today? I learned something today: how to fix dented pipes. Neato!!! I guess this is why I play them, and not fix them. I wouldn't be very good at the latter.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:41:03 -0500   very true Roy. The digital organ can reproduce (strikingly too, may I add) the sound of a great pipe organ, and for a fraction of the price. Churches who can't afford a pipe organ, can most certainly afford an electronic/digital instrument. Are you sure the pipe organ is fighting for it's life? The last I heard, companies like Casavant, Ruffatti, Francois Caron, Guilbeault Therien, and so many others, were doing very well. Maybe it's more to do with promotion than anything else............   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:43:38 -0600   Yes, I am very sure. One only needs to look at the number of pipe organs built or restored now in comparison to the past. The difference is those who = are willing to settle for the imitation. Are you one of those? Roy   Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > very true Roy. The digital organ can reproduce (strikingly too, may I = add) > the sound of a great pipe organ, and for a fraction of the price. = Churches > who can't afford a pipe organ, can most certainly afford an > electronic/digital instrument. Are you sure the pipe organ is fighting = for > it's life? The last I heard, companies like Casavant, Ruffatti, Francois > Caron, Guilbeault Therien, and so many others, were doing very well. = Maybe > it's more to do with promotion than anything else............ > > Carlo > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:47:19 -0500   I am one of those people who works for a church, which at the time of it's construction, couldn't afford to build a pipe organ. Settling for an imitation doesn't lessen our talents as organists.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:49:29 -0500   here's an added thought........   agreeing to play a concert on a digital instrument, isn't in any way, = shape, or form, taking away from the pipe organ industry. This is what I was referring to. I know so many organists who downright refuse to play any digital instrument, either for concerts or masses/services. A list-member said something about it being egotistical to say that people not wanting = to play digital instruments are losing out. Well, how about people refusing = to play anything non-pipe? Countless organists refuse to play on anything BUT pipe organs. Why are they not egotistical? Do they think they're too good for a digital organ?   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Organist, Choirmaster, or BOTH From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:01:13 -0800 (PST)     --- Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > Is there anyone out there who conducts from an organ bench that is, like mine, > located off to the side so that the choir cannot see your waving = arms unless > they have pretty good peripheral vision? If so, do you just = prepare them > extremely well to sing without leading them through every note?   I had a LCMS church in Florence, AL that I stayed at for almost 5 years. = 150 members, or so, a 1988 Allen in a chapel sized church with NO choir loft. = I had a 15 member choir - 2 tenors, 3 basses, and the rest altos and sopranos. I = have NEVER seen a more dedicated choir. Almost always every member was at = rehearsals and services! They were good singers too, and together with the = congregation, the hymns could ring the rafters no matter how wild the accompaniment! = FUN!   The organ console and piano were both off to either side of the chancel. = The choir had the front pews and marched up for "anthems." They sang other = choral settings in place. NO eye contact unless I drug the piano out for = rehearsal and they didn't do much better so I quit that. As director my only problem was = that I couldn't always hear the singers furtherest away from the piano, so I = changed the rehearsal placement so I could hear, whereas before they practiced in "performance" position. We did a good bit of a capella rehearsals and = circle rehearsals. The small room was not reverberant, but the acoustics were = good, only an isle runner and no cushions.   About two years into that job I became organist at the big Episcopal = church in town. They had a very good pipe organ and since I was Episcopalian getting = that job (not to mention money!) made sense. The small Lutheran church changed = their service to 9 a.m. and I stayed there. Never a problem except Easter when = the LCMS folks had to deal with a substitute, but that was a decision they = made.   At Trinity the console was back in an alcove, so they had a "split" = position - but the director did very little conducting during the service as she = prefered to sing, and only major pieces or entrances, cut-offs, etc., were = conducted.   My point is that in both instances, what the CHOIR learned during = rehearsal is what they did in church, and in both cases the "thrill of the moment" = either HELPED, and often HINDERED the musical aspects of the "performance."   One point that I have observed - choirs with many well trained or = professional musicians do not NEED a director - one of the chamber groups back home had = a "director" that only picked out the music and set the rehearsal and = concert schedule - but the music "happened" on its own during rehearsals and the kinship of being in a small ensemble, and that was some GREAT singing. = CHOIRS WITH MANY AMATEURS, people that lack confidence, whether they can sing or = not, do better with arm waving.     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Acoustical Sealant From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:08:07 EST     --part1_97.1318d5d2.27f15e17_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/27/01 2:14:59 AM !!!First Boot!!!, jlspeller@mindspring.com writes:     > In 1962 this problem was addressed by painting the walls with several = coats > of a diluted solution of Elmers Glue All. This was done at almost no = cost > by volunteers from the congregation, including the present organist of = our > church.   Wow cool! Can it be peeled off to make "creepy walls" like it's peeled = off of your hand to make "creep skin". Ah.... something ELSE to do during = a long sermon!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_97.1318d5d2.27f15e17_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/27/01 2:14:59 AM !!!First Boot!!!, <BR>jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In 1962 this = problem was addressed by painting the walls with several coats <BR>of a diluted solution of Elmers Glue All. &nbsp;This was done at = almost no cost <BR>by volunteers from the congregation, including the present organist of = our <BR>church. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Wow cool! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Can it be peeled off to make "creepy = walls" like it's peeled off <BR>of your hand to make "creep skin". &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ah.... = something ELSE to do during a <BR>long sermon!! <BR>;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_97.1318d5d2.27f15e17_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:21:51 EST     --part1_49.950aa5e.27f1614f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/27/01 2:50:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!, organist@total.net =   writes:     > Well, how about people refusing to play anything non-pipe? Countless > organists refuse to play on anything BUT pipe organs. Why are they not > egotistical? Do they think they're too good for a digital organ? > As an organist, I refuse to play on a substitute instrument because I want = to make beautiful music and in MY MIND artificially re-produced sound is not beautiful. If you like it fine; YOU listen to it. It is not my ego that = is involved, it's my EARS. I don't think I'm too good for a digital substitute, but I don't think a digital substitute is good enough for me = to play. It's art. People have standards and preferences.         Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_49.950aa5e.27f1614f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/27/01 2:50:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!, organist@total.net <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Well, how about = people refusing to play anything non-pipe? Countless <BR>organists refuse to play on anything BUT pipe organs. Why are they not =   <BR>egotistical? Do they think they're too good for a digital organ? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">As an organist, I refuse to play on a substitute = instrument because I want to <BR>make beautiful music and in MY MIND artificially re-produced sound is = not <BR>beautiful. &nbsp;If you like it fine; YOU listen to it. &nbsp;&nbsp;It = is not my ego that is <BR>involved, it's my EARS. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I don't think I'm too good = for a digital <BR>substitute, but I don't think a digital substitute is good enough for = me to <BR>play. &nbsp;&nbsp;It's art. &nbsp;People have standards and = preferences. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_49.950aa5e.27f1614f_boundary--