PipeChat Digest #1962 - Tuesday, March 27, 2001
 
Re: Organist, Choirmaster, or BOTH
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Assistants- full time and otherwise
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
toss-up
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality
  by <Orgnplayer@aol.com>
Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Adding pipes to your Rogers
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Tempered Organs in Worship
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: Division of Labor
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Re: resale value of digital organs
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Church of the Holy Name of Jesus, NYC
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Bish owns a Rogers?
  by <ResearchIV@aol.com>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by <Mozart609@aol.com>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
electronics compared
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Twisting "pure" facts
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Shutter vs Facade
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Harmonium (was Division of Labor)
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Organist, Choirmaster, or BOTH From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:27:56 EST     --part1_a0.120a2398.27f243bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   What? No wedding rehearsals? Unthinkable!! <grin>   Let's see, I still have about 23 Christmas Eves to go til I'm 65. ee = gads, that's a lot.   Keep in touch. Neil   --part1_a0.120a2398.27f243bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>What? No wedding = rehearsals? &nbsp;Unthinkable!! &lt;grin&gt; <BR> <BR>Let's see, I still have about 23 Christmas Eves to go til I'm 65. = &nbsp;ee gads, <BR>that's a lot. <BR> <BR>Keep in touch. <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a0.120a2398.27f243bc_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Assistants- full time and otherwise From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:32:45 EST     --part1_f6.87c51be.27f244dd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Scott, I have tried and tried, to no avail. But we still do excellent = music week in and week out. I won't have it any other way.   Just this past Sunday, we did a piece, part of which I pre-recorded on the =   keyboard. The first part of the piece I played on the piano, then pushed = a button and moved to organ so that the finale could be both. If you can't = get an assistant, then you gotta use technology. I guess I'm destined to use technology.   So, while they won't spring for an assistant, they raised my salary and it =   looks like we may get a new choir room here before long (Lord willing and = the creek doesn't rise). I'll keep everyone informed.   Neil Brown FUMC Toms River NJ   --part1_f6.87c51be.27f244dd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Scott, I have tried and = tried, to no avail. &nbsp;But we still do excellent music <BR>week in and week out. &nbsp;I won't have it any other way. <BR> <BR>Just this past Sunday, we did a piece, part of which I pre-recorded on = the <BR>keyboard. &nbsp;The first part of the piece I played on the piano, = then pushed a <BR>button and moved to organ so that the finale could be both. &nbsp;If = you can't get <BR>an assistant, then you gotta use technology. &nbsp;I guess I'm = destined to use <BR>technology. <BR> <BR>So, while they won't spring for an assistant, they raised my salary = and it <BR>looks like we may get a new choir room here before long (Lord willing = and the <BR>creek doesn't rise). &nbsp;I'll keep everyone informed. <BR> <BR>Neil Brown <BR>FUMC Toms River NJ</FONT></HTML>   --part1_f6.87c51be.27f244dd_boundary--  
(back) Subject: toss-up From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:39:33 -0800   One more, and I'm done (grin).   Some years ago, I was organist at Graham Memorial Presbyterian on Coronado Island, near San Diego. The church was an historic wooden Victorian chapel ... there had never been a pipe organ ... they had (in succession) a reed organ, a Hammond spinet, a Baldwin, a three-manual Rodgers (which I played), and now a three-manual Allen Renaissance.   There was LITERALLY not room for ONE RANK of pipes ANYWHERE in the building ... the church was on the historical register; it couldn't be altered.   The Rodgers (a late-model analog) was quite successful; I imagine the Allen Renaissance is even more so.   I could walk across the street to the historic Victorian gothic stone Episcopal church and hear a WRETCHED, out-of-tune, out-of-regulation pipe organ ... THAT church had originally had an eight-stop tracker to accompany the solo quartet, and that was all they had ROOM for ... there was no QUESTION of altering a historic cut-stone building ... but a "major" "builder (?)" had jammed 30-some-odd ranks into the little chamber that formerly held eight stops on a slider chest (!). And they had spent a FORTUNE trying to correct the problems of their organ, which was only like twenty years old.   There was no place else for the organ to GO ... there were Tiffany windows all OVER the place, including across the back of the nave.   They would have been FAR better off with the Rodgers I had across the street (or another eight-stop tracker) (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality From: <Orgnplayer@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:35:53 EST     --part1_a2.120ea970.27f24599_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/26/01 10:38:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:     > It's worthwhile to note that the US' foremost organ personality, Diane > Bish, plays digital organs on her recital trail all the time without >   And not only that, but she has lent her name to the Diane Bish Signature Series of Rennaissance Digital organs with Allen, so she not only plays digital organs, she promotes their purchase (and makes a few bucks in the process herself, of course).   Douglas   --part1_a2.120ea970.27f24599_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/26/01 10:38:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, <BR>desertbob@rglobal.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It's worthwhile to = note that the US' foremost organ personality, Diane <BR>Bish, plays digital organs on her recital trail all the time without <BR>complaint, as do others. </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>And not only that, but she has lent her name to the Diane Bish = Signature <BR>Series of Rennaissance Digital organs with Allen, so she not only = plays <BR>digital organs, she promotes their purchase (and makes a few bucks in = the <BR>process herself, of course). <BR> <BR>Douglas</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a2.120ea970.27f24599_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:41:43 -0500   all monies generated from the Diane Bish signature series from Allen goes directly to The Joy Of Music. That's the only reason she signed up with Allen. She owns a Rodgers 940..........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Adding pipes to your Rogers From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:48:33 -0600   On 3/26/01 9:36 PM, Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > well, I said this to him privately, and I'll say it publicly......I = never > said anything about adding pipes to make our gadgetbox more valuable. = Also, > calling the Rodgers Instrument Corporation 'junk' is something I'd never = do. > Name calling is not my game............. > > Carlo   My goodness, surely we don't want to start doing comparisons on the resale value of pipe organs vs digitals. As pipe organists, we can hardly decry = the resale value of digital organs and at the same time trumpet forth to = anyone who will listen how they can pick up a used pipe organ with a replacement value of hundreds of thousands of dollars for next to nothing at the Organ Clearing House.   Russ    
(back) Subject: Tempered Organs in Worship From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:44:21 EST   Hey All, Going from the responses to the new Fritts in Princeton, I've been = thinking about tempered organs and hymnody/accompaniment. I know that in = Bach's day, you got what you got! But today, I see an equal organ leading = and accompanying in a church setting much better than an unequal = instrument. I know that some temperings work well in worship though. The = new Mander at Chesnut Hill is some form of Valotti, and it has a great = ring in the room and is a wonderful instrument to play and accompany with. = There is also a large Hradetzkey organ in my area by the NJ shore that is = about 42 ranks on two manuals and is terrible at leading hymns, but great = for Bach and his contemporaries. So I thinks its a toss-up! Equal organs = are great for service and quite a bit of repertoire, but some temperaments = make repertoire grand, though leaving much to be desired for hymnody. I = suppose you could always be like the Duke Chapel and have 3 major organs!   -Pete  
(back) Subject: Re: Division of Labor From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:11:03 -0600   On 3/26/01 5:24 PM, RMaryman@aol.com wrote:   >> Is there anyone out there >> who conducts from an organ bench that is, like mine, located off to >> the side so that the choir cannot see your waving arms unless they >> have pretty good peripheral vision? If so, do you just prepare them >> extremely well to sing without leading them through every note?   I play and conduct from the console. I prefer to do both jobs so that I = have total control - it's taken a while but I finally recognize that need in myself.   Our layout isn't bad for a chancel choir. The organ is at the front = corner, Epistle side. The sopranos and tenors face me from across the centre = aisle, with the altos and basses on my right hand. They are able to see me by turning slightly toward the congregation when standing; via a large wall mirror when kneeling. For anthems, the choir leave the stalls and stand in = a multi-row crescent shape in front of the communion rail - better for sight and for sound.   To improve sightlines, we recently replaced our organ's music rack with a full width (yes 5 feet wide!) plexiglass unit which allows me to see and = be seen through it so long as I place music strategically. The improvement is absolutely dramatic both for me and the choir.   Russ Greene    
(back) Subject: Re: resale value of digital organs From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 27 Mar 2001 12:06:23 -0800   Once the digital organ industry really gets going, digital organs will be = like computers. New ones will be better and cheaper than old ones, so old = ones won't be worth much except as MIDI consoles for new ones. But it = won't matter, because new ones will be so cheap nobody will care.   But why are used pipe organs so cheap relative to new ones? Is it the = cost of installing and revoicing them?   Dick Meckstroth      
(back) Subject: Church of the Holy Name of Jesus, NYC From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:22:54 EST   Dear pipechatters:   The organ of which Arthur LaMirande speaks, the Moller at Church of the = Holy Name of Jesus in New York City, is every bit the languishing monument he = says it is. It is one of only two organs left in the city (of which I am = aware) scaled, voiced, and finished by Richard Oliver Whitelegg (24 August 1890, Cheshire - 20 December 1944, Hagerstown). Many of Whitelegg's largest efforts, including the big four-manual at Broad Street Presbyterian in Columbus, Ohio, are now gone.   Whitelegg's tenures with various builders included Harrison and Harrison = of Durham, August Gern of London, Evans & Barr of Belfast, and a brief stint = as a voicer with Willis. If one reads the letters collected from the AEolian-Skinner files by Charles Callahan, it appears as though = Whitelegg's voicing responsibilities were rather limited at Willis; HOWEVER, there is = no doubt that English "system" voicing was in his blood. He was also an aeronautical engineer, as well as an organist, having studied at Trinity College of Music.   What makes the Holy Name instrument (now blowerless, and apparently nobody =   cares) so amazing is the exceptional quality of the ensemble; spotted = metal mixtures all over (including a Gross Sesquialtera in the Pedal), as I remember twelve ranks of mixtures on the Great, two of them with tierces, = one with a flat twenty-first, and bold French reeds or rather solid and fiery power. The room is a grand granite gothic affair, and the organ enjoys a rear gallery placement. For those of you who are sentimental, the beast = has TWO Voix Humaines...   While its finicky 1938 Moller windchests are not easily rebuilt by those without the requisite skills (primaries must be releathered IN PLACE, = while one hangs from one's toes like a sloth), the organ is eminently = restorable. The usual Moller problems of buried screws, regulators up against the = bottom boards, too many windlines, and overly complex actions, come with the territory. Needless to say, the console is a "pneumatic pnightmare". The =   important thing here was that an attempt was made to keep the organ going, =   releathering it division by division, because it was of such scope and quality that one didn't NEED the entire instrument to play fine services = or concerts. Apparently, after Mr. LaMirande's departure, the parish had = nobody pushing for the instrument's survival.   A dean of one of the neighboring Guild chapters applied for the job there, =   giving my name to the current pastor, saying that my firm could most = likely board the subway, make a quick evaluation, and get the blower replaced or rebuilt on short order. Needless to say, no telephone call was = forthcoming, and the gentleman's attempts to re-introduce this masterpiece of organbuilding into the life of that church resulted in him NOT getting the =   job. He has gone on to a nice church with a good pipe organ where he is appreciated, and being a gentleman, feels sorrier for the folks at Holy = Name than for himself.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Bish owns a Rogers? From: <ResearchIV@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:42:18 EST   Amazing what one learns on pipechat. Sells her name to Allen, plays a Rogers. Guess it pays for the hair and the gowns. I should sell my name to a digital firm. I have three kids to put through college!!!  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:46:55 -0500   ever notice that in the almost 400 episodes of The Joy Of Music, and 18 years of production, she's played all types of organs....Allen, Rodgers....and a few pipe ones too!!!   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: <Mozart609@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:50:20 EST     --part1_49.95ecc2f.27f2570c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     Research IV wrote: "Amazing what one learns on pipechat. Sells her name to Allen, plays a Rogers. Guess it pays for the hair and the gowns. I should sell my name to a digital firm. I have three kids to put through college!!!"   Frankly folks: I did NOT join this list to listen to the CRAP and childish behavior that goes on in here a LOT. Stop it!!!!! Some of you people need to get a life. =   Who the Hell care what kind of organ Diane Bish sells her name to and who care what kind of organ she owns. That's HER business and NO one else's.   Mitch Weisiger       --part1_49.95ecc2f.27f2570c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3><B> <BR>Research IV wrote:</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>"Amazing what one learns on pipechat. <BR>Sells her name to Allen, plays a Rogers. <BR>Guess it pays for the hair and the gowns. <BR>I should sell my name to a digital firm. <BR>I have three kids to put through college!!!" <BR> <BR>Frankly folks: <BR> <BR>I did NOT join this list to listen to the CRAP and childish behavior = that <BR>goes on in here a LOT. Stop it!!!!! Some of you people need to get a = life. <BR>Who the Hell care what kind of organ Diane Bish sells her name to and = who <BR>care what kind of organ she owns. That's HER business and NO one = else's. <BR> <BR>Mitch Weisiger <BR> <BR></B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_49.95ecc2f.27f2570c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:54:11 EST   It's Rodgers, not Rogers. I know. I have one.  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:01:02 -0600   On 3/27/01 2:42 PM, ResearchIV@aol.com wrote:   > Amazing what one learns on pipechat. > Sells her name to Allen, plays a Rogers. > Guess it pays for the hair and the gowns. > I should sell my name to a digital firm. > I have three kids to put through college!!!   But first you have to find a digital firm who thinks your name is worth buying. That may require some demonstrated achievement. Guess that could also be learned on pipechat.   Russ   Bye the bye, is your name really ResearchIV? Any relation to MoonUnit?    
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:56:39 -0500   unless someone named Roger owns one...that would make it Roger's Rodgers *LOL*   Carlo    
(back) Subject: electronics compared From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:10:26 -0400   Say, Desert Bob, didn't you post a message a month or so ago in which you promised that you would review the least expensive new organs from Allen, Rodgers, Johannus, et al. --or did I just dream that? It may have been in the context of a thread on practice organs.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:18:35 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1226398177=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" ; format=3D"flowed"   >Research IV wrote: >"Amazing what one learns on pipechat. >Sells her name to Allen, plays a Rogers. >Guess it pays for the hair and the gowns.     And the motorcycle. ; - )       > >Who the Hell care what kind of organ Diane Bish sells her name to and who >care what kind of organ she owns. That's HER business and NO one else's. > >Mitch Weisiger   Aw, come on. That sort of thing is the essence of "chat" and this is pipechat, right? I think it's extremely interesting, and I don't think Ms. Bish would mind us discussing her taste in electronics. She's a public figure, after all. I personally am quite impressed with the Allen Renaissance, and would love to hear the Rodgers Trillium to see how it stacks up. Not that I could ever afford to buy either for a home practice organ.   It's my understanding that Allen uses the Renaissance technology in its cheapest organ, the Protege. Is this true? I'm guessing, from my reading of the official Rodgers web site, that Rodgers, however, does not incorporate their Trillium technology in their low-end models.     Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1226398177=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <excerpt><bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Research IV wrote:   <smaller>"Amazing what one learns on pipechat.   Sells her name to Allen, plays a Rogers.   Guess it pays for the hair and the gowns.   </smaller></fontfamily></bold></excerpt><bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</par= a=3D m><smaller>     And the motorcycle. ; - )         <excerpt>   Who the Hell care what kind of organ Diane Bish sells her name to and who   care what kind of organ she owns. That's HER business and NO one else's.     Mitch Weisiger   </excerpt>   </smaller></fontfamily></bold>Aw, come on. That sort of thing is the essence of "chat" and this is pipechat, right? I think it's extremely interesting, and I don't think Ms. Bish would mind us discussing her taste in electronics. She's a public figure, after all. I personally am quite impressed with the Allen Renaissance, and would love to hear the Rodgers Trillium to see how it stacks up. Not that I could ever afford to buy either for a home practice organ. =3D20     It's my understanding that Allen uses the Renaissance technology in its cheapest organ, the Protege. Is this true? I'm guessing, from my reading of the official Rodgers web site, that Rodgers, however, does not incorporate their Trillium technology in their low-end models. =3D20   Randy Runyon   organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati   runyonr@muohio.edu   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1226398177=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:24:54 -0500   Randy...........Diane doesn't mind us discussing her choice in organs........   people HERE do...........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:44:56 -0800 (PST)   I think many people would debate whether Diane Bish is the foremost organ personality in the United States.   --- Orgnplayer@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/26/01 10:38:29 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > desertbob@rglobal.net writes: > > > > It's worthwhile to note that the US' foremost > organ personality, Diane > > Bish, plays digital organs on her recital trail > all the time without     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=3Dtext  
(back) Subject: Re: Twisting "pure" facts From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:47:43 -0800 (PST)   Well, I think Arthur stirs up the pot--and that's fine. If one doesn't like what he says, there is always the delete button. PIP-org also has its share of pot stirrers! --- Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@mediaone.net> wrote: > > > Bobmac36@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi Carlo - I will join the ranks with you, but I'm > tempted to drop pipe-chat. > > Too many narrow-minded people here. > > Hi Bob! > > Try PIPORG-L It's the original - and presently > LaMirande free! > > BTW the organ in Sacred Heart in Ipswich was > relocated to > Our Lady of Hope where it was 'dumped' near the > communion rail. > It was there for just a few weeks, Christmas, a > couple of years > ago. Barbara Owen and Richard Hill had arranged for > the relocation. > (And remembered those hamburgers at the Choate > Bridge Pub!) > > The organ is believed to be sitting somewhere in the > cold closed > Sacred Heart church building. > A lot of the parishioners (my neighbors) don't go to > church anymore. > "We know when we're not wanted." > > Stan Lowkis > Ipswich, MA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=3Dtext  
(back) Subject: Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:48:04 -0500   because of The Joy Of Music, seen all over the world, I would dare say = that Diane Bish has to be one of the most visible organists in the world today. No other organist has ever had such exposure. No one can deny = that.........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:49:31 -0800 (PST)   Dear Russ, You have basically just flames a member of Pipechat. I personally find your tone offensive.   --- Russ Greene <rggreene2@home.com> wrote: > On 3/27/01 2:42 PM, ResearchIV@aol.com wrote: > > > Amazing what one learns on pipechat. > > Sells her name to Allen, plays a Rogers. > > Guess it pays for the hair and the gowns. > > I should sell my name to a digital firm. > > I have three kids to put through college!!! > > But first you have to find a digital firm who thinks > your name is worth > buying. That may require some demonstrated > achievement. Guess that could > also be learned on pipechat. > > Russ > > Bye the bye, is your name really ResearchIV? Any > relation to MoonUnit? > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=3Dtext  
(back) Subject: Re: Shutter vs Facade From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:54:24 EST   In a message dated 3/23/01 6:16:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, Doppelflote8@aol.com writes:   << Horizontal shutters block more sound than verticle shutters, >>   As someone who has built several hundred square feet of horizontal = shutters over the past couple of years I would be forever grateful if you would explain the reasoning behind that statement.   Respectfully yours:   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: Harmonium (was Division of Labor) From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:05:18 EST   In a message dated 3/27/01 9:24:32 AM Central Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << French reed organs had foundation tone and reed tone at 16-8-4, with = stops divided at middle c, and sometimes a Vox Celeste. Registrations are indicated by numbers (1-2-3-4-5-6, NOT the pitch numbers) in circles. Because the = keyboard divides at middle c, it was possible (for instance) to pull the 4' = foundation stop in the bass and the 16' reed stop in the treble and imitate the = effect of playing on two manuals, and Franck OFTEN calls for that. If you simply = play the music as written on all 8' stops, things are in the wrong octave. >>   Fascinating...y'all used past tense when explaining the instrument- are = any harmoniums still being made in Europe, or is the instrument too limited = for general use?   Thank you yet again, gentlemen, for the terrific info... Mandy