PipeChat Digest #1964 - Tuesday, March 27, 2001
 
Re: Acoustical Sealant
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: I'm outa here folks!!!
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
ALL READ IMMEDIATELY!!!!!
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: I'm outa here folks!!!
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
netiquette/ettiquette
  by "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com>
Re: "Purists"
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: electronics compared
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality
  by "Panning" <jpanning@cal-net.net>
Carlo
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Cardinal Egan
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: I'm outa here folks!!!
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Carlo
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: Harmonium (was Division of Labor)
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: Fw: Old technology, was PROBLEM SOLVED
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: Bish owns a Rogers?
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Harmonium (was Division of Labor)
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Fw: Old technology, was PROBLEM SOLVED
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Acoustical Sealant From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:14:00 -0600   Well, all I can say is that it has been on there now for over 25 years and it hasn't started melting or dripping yet.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>   > Re; Elmers Glue paint. > > I imagine that would make a somewhat hard reflective surface, but what about > the effects of heat and humidity? Would you have 'melting, dripping walls'?      
(back) Subject: Re: I'm outa here folks!!! From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:30:12 EST     --part1_104.e62134.27f298a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     >>I find your contributions to this list to be nothing short of drivel.<< =     This is why our profession looks so bleak to so many people. Must we be = so hateful to each other?   Just because I may or may not agree with someone, doesn't mean that what = they are saying is drivel.   This list used to be enjoyable. But alas, as with all good things, it = must come to an end, I see.   Neil       --part1_104.e62134.27f298a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2> <BR>&gt;&gt;I find your contributions to this list to be nothing short of = drivel.&lt;&lt; &nbsp; <BR> <BR>This is why our profession looks so bleak to so many people. = &nbsp;Must we be so <BR>hateful to each other? &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Just because I may or may not agree with someone, doesn't mean that = what they <BR>are saying is drivel. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>This list used to be enjoyable. &nbsp;But alas, as with all good = things, it must <BR>come to an end, I see. <BR> <BR>Neil <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_104.e62134.27f298a4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: ALL READ IMMEDIATELY!!!!! From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:31:39 -0600   OK Folks   I don't get angry very easily and hate doing these ALL READ posts but this time I am MAD!!!!   I expect that the people on this list are ladies and gentlemen but that doesn't seem to be the case these last few days. This list has degenerated into a bunch of little children who aren't getting their own way and are having temper tantrums!!! AND I WILL NOT PUT UP WITH IT!!   This morning, just before I left for Dallas I received the following note from Rebekah Ingram with the request that I forward it to the list and I am more than happy to do so.   ******************FORWARDED MESSAGE********************************* I've been on this list for a long time (since its birth!), but I have never seen anything like this outside of Pipeorg-L. This is ridiculous! There are a few people on this list who are really irritating, and need to realize that there will -always- be diversity of opinion. I did NOT subscribe to this list to have my mailbox filled by "reply-happy" people, who feel it's their sworn duty to cut down anyone who does not share their opinion.   This is really a shame, as I was hoping to spend the few weeks before my recital with this group, for some moral support. From what I saw this morning, moral support is the furthest from many people's minds on this list.   I will take some time off and come back. I hope by then things have settled down. In addition, flame me all you want, but I'm relatively sure that I speak for a lot of members of this list.   -Rebekah ***************************************************************************= ********** This is from someone that is in her 20's and has more sense than a number of you folks that are supposedly older and wiser. This really grieves me since I really care for Rebekah and feel very sorry that she has had to do this especially at a time that is very stressful.   You know, we keep having these discussions about not having the younger folks join our profession and that the organ is dying. Well, we do have an enemy and it is US!!! If I were in Rebekah's or Josh's shoes I would think twice about getting into this profession as listening to some of you on this list over the last several days.   As some of you know both of the Administrators of this list are in Dallas these weeks installing a new organ and this is a stressful time for us. And since Tim doesn't have email access down here it all falls on my shoulders. And right now I have a very "itchy" trigger finger. And I don't care who you are or who you "think" you are, if you post something that is inflammatory you are a goner. And i personally feel that there are some of you with greatly inflated opinions of yourselves but you are the only one with such an opinion.   Remember, you all are MY GUESTS on this list since I own it. And i expect my guests to behave and not act like children but be adults. And if you don't like my rules, TOUGH you can always unsubscribe.   Now let us get back to HELPING each other and to SUPPORTING those that need it such as Rebekah and Josh just to name a couple of our younger members.   David     -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: I'm outa here folks!!! From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:33:51 -0600   > >>I find your contributions to this list to be nothing short of = drivel.<< > >This is why our profession looks so bleak to so many people. Must we be = so >hateful to each other? > >Just because I may or may not agree with someone, doesn't mean that what = they >are saying is drivel. > >This list used to be enjoyable. But alas, as with all good things, it = must >come to an end, I see. > >Neil   It is not going to come to an end Neil. If i have to get rid of all the trouble makers and pare this list to just a few people so be it. And it will be enjoyable again!   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: netiquette/ettiquette From: "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:42:42 -0800   Reading a mailing list is a much more enjoyable experience when people follow basic guidelines of netiquette, but even more than that, simple etiquette. I'd like to speak from the point of view of an impartial lurker for a second, and enumerate some of my personal feelings on what some of these guidelines are (note the use of the word "personal," this isn't Gospel, and others are of course free to disagree).   First, the easy, non-controversial stuff:   1. Quote as little as possible. Most people are good about this, but some people will quote 50+ lines of a message to add an 8 word reply. That's simply not necessary, and is inconsiderate to people with slow connections. Also, it's much preferred if you keep the quoted text _above_ your own words. It just doesn't make sense to read what you've posted, and then what you're replying to. It's like watching a movie backwards.   2. Consolidate your posts. Many people will post several replies to the same thread all at once, and it just scatters the conversation, making it harder to follow. If possible, consolidate all of your ideas and thoughts into a single reply (if they're on the same subject).   3. Be conservative in what you post. Corrolaries to this are "know when to quit" and "don't insist on getting the last word." Are you contributing something new, or just repeating what's already been said? Are you adding to the discussion, or are you just saying "me too?" Are you furthering the discussion, or fanning a flamewar?   4. Flamewars, especially extended ones, are simply not enjoyable for anyone. They usually become off-topic, result in bruised egos and people announcing to the world that they're leaving because they just can't take it, the outcomes are never good. If you absolutely must flame, then...   5. Know when to take things off the list to private e-mail. If it's of general interest, then by all means post it, but if it really only pertains to the person you're replying to, then private e-mail would be more appropriate. The high the signal to noise ratio, the more = enjoyable a list is to read.   6. Don't quote private e-mail publically. This is the one that prompted me to write this:     > That's it. I've had just about all I can take from this list. Ben Baldus > just sent something to me, and I'd like to share it with you all....   I find that to be extremely rude, and though the original e-mail was undoubtably rude as well, there's no reason to involve the list in your personal matters. In my opinion, private e-mail should _never_ be quoted in public without permission from the sender.   That's all. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...   Joshua   -- Joshua Haberman = <joshua@haberman.com> University of Puget Sound = <joshua@debian.org> http://www.reverberate.org = <jhaberman@ups.edu>  
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:54:37 -0600   On 3/26/01 9:28 PM, Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > are digital organs artificially reproducing the stops, or are they replaying > samples from pipe organs? I ask this because I thought that the newer Allens > and Rodgers used samples from pipe organs. When I'm asked to play, I = check > the organ, if it sounds good, then great. I would never think that an organ > wasn't good enough for me to play.   While I am hardly a supporter of electronic organs rather than pipe = organs, one of my problems is that I think, so far as electronic organs are concerned, digitally sampled instruments are far from being the best kind. At the best the builder of a digitally sampled instrument can only hope to make it as good as the instrument he is sampling. Some of the finest electronic organs currently being made are produced by Hugh Banton in England, who curiously enough was in the same class as me = at school when I was ten years old (forty odd years ago). These are digital organs but they are NOT based on sampling pipe organs. Instead they are voiced the same way as a pipe organ -- i.e., by listening to the sound and altering it to achieve the most artistic result. If builders of digital organs are not creative enough to voice their instruments by listening to the sound they make and trying to achieve perfection -- the same way that pipe organs have always been voiced -- there is not a lot of hope for = them.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: electronics compared From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:32:27 -0800   At 04:10 PM 3/27/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Say, Desert Bob, didn't you post a message a month or so ago in which you =   >promised that you would review the least expensive new organs from Allen, =   >Rodgers, Johannus, et al. --or did I just dream that? It may have been = in >the context of a thread on practice organs.<snip>   Workin' on it as this came in! Currently, I'm devising standards of comparison, and having trouble getting a board of judges that isn't in = some way prejudiced towards a particular name, or against ALL digitorgs! Looking for the "shootout" to happen come May. Stay tuned!   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:34 -0800   At 04:24 PM 3/27/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Randy...........Diane doesn't mind us discussing her choice in >organs........   :::wondering if he realized what he just said::::   :::guffawing LOUDLY::::   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality From: "Panning" <jpanning@cal-net.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:17:42 -0600   Bob writes: >All the big builders are gone, save Austin >and Casavant in North America.   I don't know what Bob's definition of "big" is in this context. If it's number of employees, I believe that Schantz employs more than either = Austin or Casavant.   John      
(back) Subject: Carlo From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:21:28 EST     --part1_da.3e4bdaf.27f2a4a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Carlo has left us? Say t'ain't so!   Now, we'll NEVER find out the name of that church in Montreal in which he plays so enthusiastically on a digital electronic! (Purportedly!)   As for organists with great exposure: Well, let's see: there was Marcel Dupre', who gave concerts all over Europe and North America. Fernando Germani. Anton Heiller. Andre' Marchal. Even Virgil Fox! And we musn't forget E. Power Biggs. = To name just a few.   Ah, but of course. They didn't have a television program of their own! Guess that leaves them out of the running.   Except: Mr. Biggs did have a nationwide radio broadcast (on CBS) way back = in the 1940s. (That was long before TV became generally available.) I well recall listening to his Sunday morning programs, broadcast from the Busch-Reisinger Museum in Cambridge, Massachusetts. (And in the early 50s =   from the new A-E at Symphony Hall, Boston.) Biggs did a great deal indeed = to bring the organ to the attention of the general public. I would venture = to say that, for that time and period, he had at least as much exposure, proportionately, as Mme Bish has had in more recent times.   Of course, it isn't mere exposure which makes for a great artist. = Liberace had lots of exposure, too!   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_da.3e4bdaf.27f2a4a8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Carlo has left us? = &nbsp;Say t'ain't so! <BR> <BR>Now, we'll NEVER find out the name of that church in Montreal in which = he <BR>plays so enthusiastically on a digital electronic! = &nbsp;(Purportedly!) <BR> <BR>As for organists with great exposure: &nbsp;Well, let's see: there was = Marcel <BR>Dupre', who gave concerts all over Europe and North America. = &nbsp;Fernando <BR>Germani. &nbsp;Anton Heiller. <BR>Andre' Marchal. Even Virgil Fox! &nbsp;And we musn't forget E. Power = Biggs. &nbsp;&nbsp;To <BR>name just a few. <BR> <BR>Ah, but of course. &nbsp;They didn't have a television program of = their own! &nbsp; <BR>Guess that leaves them out of the running. <BR> <BR>Except: &nbsp;Mr. Biggs did have a nationwide radio broadcast (on CBS) = way back in <BR>the 1940s. &nbsp;(That was long before TV became generally available.) = &nbsp;I well <BR>recall listening to his Sunday morning programs, broadcast from the <BR>Busch-Reisinger Museum in Cambridge, Massachusetts. &nbsp;(And in the = early 50s <BR>from the new A-E at Symphony Hall, Boston.) &nbsp;Biggs did a great = deal indeed to <BR>bring the organ to the attention of the general public. &nbsp;I would = venture to <BR>say that, for that time and period, he had at least as much exposure, <BR>proportionately, as Mme Bish has had in more recent times. <BR> <BR>Of course, it isn't mere exposure which makes for a great artist. = &nbsp;Liberace <BR>had lots of exposure, too! <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_da.3e4bdaf.27f2a4a8_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Purists, Pipes, PCM and Reality From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:27:23 EST   In a message dated 3/27/2001 2:43:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, organist@total.net writes:   << all monies generated from the Diane Bish signature series from Allen = goes directly to The Joy Of Music. That's the only reason she signed up with Allen. She owns a Rodgers 940.......... Carlo >>   Thats reason enuf for me not to ever consider that model Allen,,,if the artist does not believe it it,,,,,why should I ? Just my 2 cents worth,,, ---Roc.  
(back) Subject: Cardinal Egan From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:34:58 EST     --part1_27.13029ee3.27f2a7d2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   This evening, the new Cardinal-Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Edward = Egan, came to visit Washington Heights (northern Manhattan), presiding over a Solemn Evening Prayer service at the spacious and magnificent St. = Elizabeth's Church (located on unfashionable Wadsworth Avenue).   The church was jam-packed --- I would estimate the audience at between = 2000 and 3000. Standing room only.   The Cardinal, at 6 feet 4 inches and considerable girth, makes for an imposing figure --- further assisted by his basso profundo voice. He = spoke in both English and Spanish; and after the service took a number of = questions from the congregation, answering them extemporaneously. He brought to us = the message of love and compassion. Paraphrasing: "To old-timers, your job = is to welcome the newcomers to this country. And to you new arrivals, your = job is to invite the young men and women among you to take up the religious vocation, so that the message of Jesus Christ and His Church may continue = to be preached unto future generations."   The gentleman who usually serves as principal organist of this church = tonight took the role of cantor, singing from a lecturn in the sanctuary. Someone =   else played the organ. I will, diplomatically, not comment on the level = of performance.   The Cardinal said this was his first visit to St. Elizabeth's, but that he =   expected to return many times in the future. The pastor is Monsignor Lawrence Walsh, who was formerly private secretary to the late Cardinal O'Connor at St. Patrick's Cathedral. The Monsignor read a passage from = the Letter of St. James (Sant Iago) in both English and Spanish --- the one = which talks about good works.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_27.13029ee3.27f2a7d2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>This evening, the new = Cardinal-Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Edward Egan, <BR>came to visit Washington Heights (northern Manhattan), presiding over = a <BR>Solemn Evening Prayer service at the spacious and magnificent St. = Elizabeth's <BR>Church (located on unfashionable Wadsworth Avenue). <BR> <BR>The church was jam-packed --- I would estimate the audience at between = 2000 <BR>and 3000. &nbsp;Standing room only. <BR> <BR>The Cardinal, at 6 feet 4 inches and considerable girth, makes for an <BR>imposing figure --- further assisted by his basso profundo voice. = &nbsp;He spoke <BR>in both English and Spanish; and after the service took a number of = questions <BR>from the congregation, answering them extemporaneously. &nbsp;He = brought to us the <BR>message of love and compassion. &nbsp;Paraphrasing: &nbsp;"To = old-timers, your job is <BR>to welcome the newcomers to this country. &nbsp;And to you new = arrivals, your job <BR>is to invite the young men and women among you to take up the = religious <BR>vocation, so that the message of Jesus Christ and His Church may = continue to <BR>be preached unto future generations." <BR> <BR>The gentleman who usually serves as principal organist of this church = tonight <BR>took the role of cantor, singing from a lecturn in the sanctuary. = &nbsp;Someone <BR>else played the organ. &nbsp;I will, diplomatically, not comment on = the level of <BR>performance. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>The Cardinal said this was his first visit to St. Elizabeth's, but = that he <BR>expected to return many times in the future. &nbsp;The pastor is = Monsignor <BR>Lawrence Walsh, who was formerly private secretary to the late = Cardinal <BR>O'Connor at St. Patrick's Cathedral. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The Monsignor = read a passage from the <BR>Letter of St. James (Sant Iago) in both English and Spanish --- the = one which <BR>talks about good works. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_27.13029ee3.27f2a7d2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:34:00 -0500   Re: Talking about Bish's Allen/Rodgers connections.   Wasn't it Mae West who said, "I don't care WHAT they say about me -as long as they talk about me". Hmmm....   Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: I'm outa here folks!!! From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:54:41 -0500       Carlo Pietroniro wrote: > > That's it. I've had just about all I can take from this list. Ben Baldus > just sent something to me, and I'd like to share it with you all....   Sorry about that private 'nasty'. You can always join PIPORG-L or at least access their archives. If your 'into' kinuras and such you can jump into Jerrell's list - theatreorgans-l. The "shellac" thread has all of us on the edge of our seats.   At the very least, take a trip to Casa Loma or the Orpheum in Vancouver for a nice mini vacation.   Above all, be positive! Thing about a dead skunk placed next to the blower intake at an unnamed place of worship with a certain 'incomparable' organ.   Peace, Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: Carlo From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:56:47 EST     --part1_95.8d1e94f.27f2acef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/27/01 9:23:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, ALamirande@aol.com writes:     > Carlo has left us? Say t'ain't so! > > Now, we'll NEVER find out the name of that church in Montreal in which = he > plays so enthusiastically on a digital electronic! (Purportedly!) >   With attitudes like this, I think I'm going to unsubscribe. Mr. Arther LaMirande must feel that he is above showing love, compassion, and respect =   for other people and that he is not subject to the teachings of scripture. =   Remove the "spec" from your own eye first, sir!   Tim   --part1_95.8d1e94f.27f2acef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/27/01 9:23:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>ALamirande@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Carlo has left us? = &nbsp;Say t'ain't so! <BR> <BR>Now, we'll NEVER find out the name of that church in Montreal in which = he <BR>plays so enthusiastically on a digital electronic! = &nbsp;(Purportedly!) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>With attitudes like this, I think I'm going to unsubscribe. Mr. Arther =   <BR>LaMirande must feel that he is above showing love, compassion, and = respect <BR>for other people and that he is not subject to the teachings of = scripture. <BR>Remove the "spec" from your own eye first, sir! <BR> <BR>Tim </FONT></HTML>   --part1_95.8d1e94f.27f2acef_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Harmonium (was Division of Labor) From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:25:11 -0600   I have repaired several reed organs, the first one I fixed up was a 1884 Shoninger with a set of bells in the treble. It had only 2 sets of reeds and no couplers. When I finished it, we took it to the church and played it for the Sunday morning service. A few people said it sounded better than the electric. = ;-) It is the only reed organ that I have seen with a set of bells.   So far, I have never seen a reed organ that operates on pressure.   I repaired a Moline church model for a former pastors wife, she about wept when it played again after standing silent so many years.   It is a hobby I enjoy, it gives me a lot of satisfaction when it means so much to the owners to be able to play them once again. The workmanship done a 100 yrs ago in these old reed organs is remarkable, very high quality, and ,,, I like the sound they make. Luther ATOS, ROS   -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:41 PM     >folding two-stop "missionary" reed organ until the late 1950s ... I = bought one new >in the early 1950s. > >There is, however, a flourishing business in restoring them in this country, and >occasionally a Mustel instrument finds its way across the pond, so they = ARE still >available. > >Cheers, > >Bud > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Old technology, was PROBLEM SOLVED From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:33:18 -0600   Steam engines and pipe organs must be connected somehow. I own the steam traction engine that my dad had, he bought it used in 1919 when he was 19 years old. He threshed grain for many years with it. It has a nice chime whistle (three tone) At our show in Dalton MN we have a narrow gauge French locomotive among the numerous exhibits.   I remember riding in a steam locomotive many years ago on the side track. = It rocked side to side as it was so high up that any unevenness of the track would be exaggerated. Those days are gone but we still have our Steam show. Visit sometime. Luther   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:17 AM I really miss steam engines. I remember one day when Dad was taking a walk with my brother and me. We got to the train track and the train was stopped while preparing to switch to a siding. Dad took us up to the enging and asked the engineer if we could come up. He told us to look at everything very carefully, since that might be the last steam engine = we got to see up close. It was very exciting, and did turn out to be = almost the last one. I've been on three more since then (about forty years!), and those were in the past five years for special steam train trips.   I also get choked up watching jets fly over, especially when they're = in the missing-man formation. I'm so glad I got to be a kid while being a kid was actually fun.     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/    
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Rogers? From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:41:40 EST   In a message dated 3/27/01 9:02:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << guffawing LOUDLY:::: >> Bad Bob! Baaaad!   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: Harmonium (was Division of Labor) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:47:45 -0500   Re: Schoniger reed organs   Luther- I restored a Schoniger with saucer bells also back in the 70s. = This one had a single horizontal swell shade on top of the gallery. Quite the novelty. It also had the 16' bass reed box.   I have a Hamilton pump organ with gallery, mirror and shelves sitting alongside my Jesse French/Simplex player piano in the parlour.   I just bought a 1916 Merrill player piano to restore. Where 'my gonna put IT?!   Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Old technology, was PROBLEM SOLVED From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:50:02 -0500   Re: Steam engines and organs.   Yes, there IS a happy connection.   For your steam show, you need a WurliTzer military band organ to go = with that!