PipeChat Digest #1968 - Wednesday, March 28, 2001
 
Re: Follow-up
  by "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1963 - 03/27/01 Carlo don't go!!!!
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: Lutheran Tenebrae (X-posted)
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1965 - 03/28/01 I agree with those who disagree
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Hmmm...
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Follow-up
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: mc~ organs in limbo
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: the decline and fall of the pipe organ is greatly exaggerated
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Follow-up
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: "Purists"
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: the decline and fall of the pipe organ is greatly exaggerated
  by "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com>
Re: toss-up
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Follow-up From: "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:33:12 -0500   As an addendum....   I am, like others, a member of several lists....   One major list has now asked us to forward any flames that we get = privately from list members.   If the flame is inappropriate enough, the offender is removed.   The primary reason for this is that the list makes available your private email to a certain group.....if a member of that group violates our = privacy by flaming, then the opinion is that they should be taken of the list..   This list is made up of over 2000 folks who plan and execute major events for major Fortune 500 companies.....no one has time for moronic, offensive =   wastes of bandwidth, and, therefore, the decision is enforced = dramatically.   Steve LaManna AVI Creative Show Services 7101 Presidents Drive Suite 105 Orlando, FL 32809 Toll Free: 888.251.9651 x3714 FAX:407.854.0969 A national leader in full service production, staging, video, graphics and =   creative services for the meetings, incentive and convention industries. http://www.aviinc.com/cs   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1963 - 03/27/01 Carlo don't go!!!! From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:59:27 EST     --part1_be.11fbaedd.27f3564f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Carlo, I find your insights enjoyable and more than interesting. Please don't let one person ruin it for you. I just had a similar experience = with a person who was on this page yesterday. That person didn't have the = courage to sign their mail. I won't dignify this individual by publishing their moniker either. Please stay!!!!!   Dennis R.   --part1_be.11fbaedd.27f3564f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Carlo, I find your = insights enjoyable and more than interesting. &nbsp;Please <BR>don't let one person ruin it for you. &nbsp;I just had a similar = experience with a <BR>person who was on this page yesterday. &nbsp;That person didn't have = the courage <BR>to sign their mail. &nbsp;I won't dignify this individual by = publishing their <BR>moniker either. &nbsp;Please stay!!!!! <BR> <BR>Dennis R.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_be.11fbaedd.27f3564f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Lutheran Tenebrae (X-posted) From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:04:15 -0500   > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com > Subject: Lutheran Tenebrae (X-posted) > > SOMEBODY on ONE of these lists wanted my Lutheran Tenebrae ... with all > the upheaval about the organ, I've forgotten who. Please contact me ... > I can either fax it or e-mail it ... I've got it scanned. > Bud, it wasn't I, but I'll take the bait. We used to do Tenebrae here, = but canned it four or five years ago; but now the new pastor is contemplating it, and it would be good to have. (I'm curious, too: What could be "Lutheran" [or Anglican, for that matter] about Tenebrae?)   Take your choice of 212 977 1838 or afreed0904@earthlink.net.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:06:33 -0600   I am glad to hear that things are great there. Are you sure you have = checked the number of new organs built currently with those built in past years? Here = the numbers are consistently down. The imitations are certainly taking a = large segment of the market. I only wanted to make the point that if organists = do not fight for fine pipe organs to play, who will do so? Roy   Bob Elms wrote:   > Well it doesn't appear to be fighting for its life in my part of the > world > Roy. There have been many new organs built in Australia recently. The > number existing in my state has more than doubled in the past 50 years, > some of the largest being built within the last 15 or so years. > Bob Elms. > Roy Redman wrote: > > > > The problem here is that the pipe organ is fighting for its life. If = you and > others > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1965 - 03/28/01 I agree with those who disagree From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:10:45 EST     --part1_c0.11d81a81.27f358f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   People, We have to start relearning our manners. Let's stop fighting. = Josh and Sebastian are right on the mark in their commentaries and they said it =   better than I ever could. I'd much rather hear desertBob talk (or trash = with humor) Dizzney Hall in L.A. with their "super scoop of fries" fascade than =   this petulant bickering. Maybe we all better reread the Pipechat = guidelines about courtesy. I just did!!   Dennis R.   --part1_c0.11d81a81.27f358f5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>People, We have to = start relearning our manners. &nbsp;Let's stop fighting. &nbsp;Josh <BR>and Sebastian are right on the mark in their commentaries and they = said it <BR>better than I ever could. &nbsp;I'd much rather hear desertBob talk = (or trash with <BR>humor) Dizzney Hall in L.A. with their "super scoop of fries" fascade = than <BR>this petulant bickering. &nbsp;Maybe we all better reread the Pipechat = guidelines <BR>about courtesy. &nbsp;I just did!! <BR> <BR>Dennis R. </FONT></HTML>   --part1_c0.11d81a81.27f358f5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Hmmm... From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:14:29 EST     --part1_aa.1320b249.27f359d5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Since French Fries are my favorite food (nearly anyway), I bet I would = love that Disney Hall facade <grin>. I would only hope that if I ever make it = out to Calif to see and/ or hear it, my stomach would have the courtesy to = growl in key.   Neil B Barnegat, NJ cool, but pleasant today   --part1_aa.1320b249.27f359d5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Since French Fries are = my favorite food (nearly anyway), I bet I would love <BR>that Disney Hall facade &lt;grin&gt;. &nbsp;I would only hope that if = I ever make it out <BR>to Calif to see and/ or hear it, my stomach would have the courtesy to = growl <BR>in key. <BR> <BR>Neil B <BR>Barnegat, NJ <BR>cool, but pleasant today</FONT></HTML>   --part1_aa.1320b249.27f359d5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Follow-up From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:20:13 -0800 (PST)   Dear David, Your words are not only practical and kind, but wise, including your comments about digital organs.   By the way, in terms of your last note to me (re: Arthur), I think you should keep him on. He's simmered down. Hope the installation of your new instrument is going well. Jack   --- Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> wrote: > Good morning Folks > > First of all I have to say I am sorry that I came > across the way I > did last night in case anyone took offense with my > ALL READ posting. > But after reading Becky's note to me to be forwarded > and then having > about 4 1/2 hours of driving down here where I sat > in the truck and > mulled over what she wrote and then reading some of > the postings that > showed up when i got mail last night really sent me > over the edge. I > probably shouldn't have sent that out in anger but i > was mad at the > way some of you, and it is only some of you, were > carrying on. > > I have found it interesting that the posting that > set me off was from > a young person and that this morning I found a > posting to the list > from another of the young people, Josh, that > appeared on the list. > And that i also received a private posting from > another of the young > people, Jason Comet, that was along the same lines > as Becky's and > Josh's. And all of these posts/notes were much more > mature than some > of the drivel that has been appearing on the list > these last several > days. > > These young people are the FUTURE of our profession > and I hope and > pray that we get more like them. And I think that > all of us that are > older and supposedly more mature can learn from > them. But if we act > like some of us have on this list recently we will > drive them away. > And I am not only talking about our actions on the > list but I am sure > that those actions also carry on towards the > newcomers in our cities > and towns and AGO Chapters. > > As you know, both of us that Administer this list > are Pipe Organ > builders and we are very proud of the instruments > that we produce. > But if we collectively drive away the younger folks > who will be > around to play those instruments? A fine pipe organ > is a work of art > but it needs to be PLAYED and not just sit there and > collect dust. > Think about that one! And I know that Tim and I and > our boss, who is > also on the list, are not the only organbuilders > that are members of > this list. So I speak for all of them, several of > these other > builders are in the same place as we are - we need > the new blood to > continue to come along to be able to give "voice" to > our instruments. > > It seems that whenever the topic of electronic > organs comes up it > turns into a food fight. Let's face it folks, > although many of us do > not like what we heard from some of those > instruments they are a fact > of life and are here to stay. Not every church can > afford or has the > room for a pipe organ so at least they do have an > option to at least > have something resembling the real thing. And I do > know that with > proper voicing, usually from a pipe organ builder, > some of these > instruments can sound rather good. Unfortunately > too many of these > never have the careful voicing needed so they do > sound bad. They > may not be our ideal but at least they do keep the > instrument in > front of people. And they do provide jobs for some > of us so let's > not deride those that play them. > > Sebastian brought up a good point in his posting > last night, because > of the attacks that seem to happen from several > members there are > others that are afraid to post and to ask questions. > I want these > attacks stopped so that everyone can feel "safe" in > asking a question > or making a comment. There are many very > knowledgeable people on > this list that are a very good resource for the rest > of us. And we > ALL can learn from them. That is if we keep an open > mind but I have > been getting the feeling that some of the members > have very closed > minds. If you can't reply to someone without being > mean or putting > the original posted down then don't post!! > > Also, recently, some of the topics have gotten a bit > out of hand and > are not within the Guidelines for this list. Let us > keep on-topic > please. As a reminder of what is on-topic and what > isn't I am going > to post separately the List Guidelines immediately > following this > post. > > Finally, i want to thank all of you that have posted > either publicly > or privately your support for what i said last > night. I don't have > the time to answer all of you personally but I do > appreciate your > support. > > And now back to HAPPY PipeChatting!! > > David > > -- > **************************************** > David Scribner > Owner / Co-Administrator > PipeChat > > http://www.pipechat.org > mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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(back) Subject: Re: mc~ organs in limbo From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:30:43 EST     --part1_7c.139a586d.27f35da3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/27/01 5:05:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ALamirande@aol.com =   writes:     > . It seems in this day and age, unless there is a significantly = important > architectural heritage where church buildings are concerned, the organ = is > not considered in it's own right. >   I remember when an historic church I was working with was applying for = grants for restoration, although the windows and interior furnishings were considered part of the building, the organ was not. 'Tis a shame.     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_7c.139a586d.27f35da3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/27/01 5:05:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ALamirande@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. It seems in this = day and age, unless there is a significantly important <BR>architectural heritage where church buildings are concerned, the organ = is <BR>not considered in it's own right. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I remember when an historic church I was working with was applying for = grants <BR>for restoration, although the windows and interior furnishings were <BR>considered part of the building, the organ was not. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'Tis a shame. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7c.139a586d.27f35da3_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: the decline and fall of the pipe organ is greatly exaggerated From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:40:51 EST     --part1_8f.8d016f0.27f36003_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/27/01 7:22:40 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > While it remains to be seen what they'll DO with them, Seattle, Dallas, > Cleveland and Jacksonville have ALL recently installed significant > instruments in their CONCERT HALLS and inaugurated them to great fanfare > (now if somebody will just do something about BOSTON, and NYC) (grin). > And we have the "Super-Size-McPipes-En-Chamade" to look forward to in > Los Angeles (grin). > >   Now, the big problem with municipal instruments is access. These instruments are virtually impossible to get in to see/hear outside of a performance, and unavailable for practice. How are newbies supposed to become interested in something they cannot touch?   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_8f.8d016f0.27f36003_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/27/01 7:22:40 PM !!!First Boot!!!, quilisma@socal.rr.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">While it remains = to be seen what they'll DO with them, Seattle, Dallas, <BR>Cleveland and Jacksonville have ALL recently installed significant <BR>instruments in their CONCERT HALLS and inaugurated them to great = fanfare <BR>(now if somebody will just do something about BOSTON, and NYC) (grin). <BR>And we have the "Super-Size-McPipes-En-Chamade" to look forward to in <BR>Los Angeles (grin). <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Now, the big problem with municipal instruments is access. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;These <BR>instruments are virtually impossible to get in to see/hear outside of = a <BR>performance, and unavailable for practice. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;How are = newbies supposed to <BR>become interested in something they cannot touch? <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8f.8d016f0.27f36003_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Follow-up From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:47:13 -0800 (PST)   Wise and kind words. Good statement about electronic organs too. By the way, in response to your note to me about Arthur, I think you might want to let him stay on the list. He's simmered down. Hope your installation is going well, Jack   --- Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> wrote: > Good morning Folks > > First of all I have to say I am sorry that I came > across the way I > did last night in case anyone took offense with my > ALL READ posting. > But after reading Becky's note to me to be forwarded > and then having > about 4 1/2 hours of driving down here where I sat > in the truck and > mulled over what she wrote and then reading some of > the postings that > showed up when i got mail last night really sent me > over the edge. I > probably shouldn't have sent that out in anger but i > was mad at the > way some of you, and it is only some of you, were > carrying on. > > I have found it interesting that the posting that > set me off was from > a young person and that this morning I found a > posting to the list > from another of the young people, Josh, that > appeared on the list. > And that i also received a private posting from > another of the young > people, Jason Comet, that was along the same lines > as Becky's and > Josh's. And all of these posts/notes were much more > mature than some > of the drivel that has been appearing on the list > these last several > days. > > These young people are the FUTURE of our profession > and I hope and > pray that we get more like them. And I think that > all of us that are > older and supposedly more mature can learn from > them. But if we act > like some of us have on this list recently we will > drive them away. > And I am not only talking about our actions on the > list but I am sure > that those actions also carry on towards the > newcomers in our cities > and towns and AGO Chapters. > > As you know, both of us that Administer this list > are Pipe Organ > builders and we are very proud of the instruments > that we produce. > But if we collectively drive away the younger folks > who will be > around to play those instruments? A fine pipe organ > is a work of art > but it needs to be PLAYED and not just sit there and > collect dust. > Think about that one! And I know that Tim and I and > our boss, who is > also on the list, are not the only organbuilders > that are members of > this list. So I speak for all of them, several of > these other > builders are in the same place as we are - we need > the new blood to > continue to come along to be able to give "voice" to > our instruments. > > It seems that whenever the topic of electronic > organs comes up it > turns into a food fight. Let's face it folks, > although many of us do > not like what we heard from some of those > instruments they are a fact > of life and are here to stay. Not every church can > afford or has the > room for a pipe organ so at least they do have an > option to at least > have something resembling the real thing. And I do > know that with > proper voicing, usually from a pipe organ builder, > some of these > instruments can sound rather good. Unfortunately > too many of these > never have the careful voicing needed so they do > sound bad. They > may not be our ideal but at least they do keep the > instrument in > front of people. And they do provide jobs for some > of us so let's > not deride those that play them. > > Sebastian brought up a good point in his posting > last night, because > of the attacks that seem to happen from several > members there are > others that are afraid to post and to ask questions. > I want these > attacks stopped so that everyone can feel "safe" in > asking a question > or making a comment. There are many very > knowledgeable people on > this list that are a very good resource for the rest > of us. And we > ALL can learn from them. That is if we keep an open > mind but I have > been getting the feeling that some of the members > have very closed > minds. If you can't reply to someone without being > mean or putting > the original posted down then don't post!! > > Also, recently, some of the topics have gotten a bit > out of hand and > are not within the Guidelines for this list. Let us > keep on-topic > please. As a reminder of what is on-topic and what > isn't I am going > to post separately the List Guidelines immediately > following this > post. > > Finally, i want to thank all of you that have posted > either publicly > or privately your support for what i said last > night. I don't have > the time to answer all of you personally but I do > appreciate your > support. > > And now back to HAPPY PipeChatting!! > > David > > -- > **************************************** > David Scribner > Owner / Co-Administrator > PipeChat > > http://www.pipechat.org > mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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(back) Subject: Re: "Purists" From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:49:03 -0800 (PST)   And new, large instruments are going in regulary around the USA as well!   --- Bob Elms <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> wrote: > Well it doesn't appear to be fighting for its life > in my part of the > world > Roy. There have been many new organs built in > Australia recently. The > number existing in my state has more than doubled in > the past 50 years, > some of the largest being built within the last 15 > or so years. > Bob Elms. > Roy Redman wrote: > > > > The problem here is that the pipe organ is > fighting for its life. If you and > others > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=3Dtext  
(back) Subject: Re: the decline and fall of the pipe organ is greatly exaggerated From: "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:52:15 -0500   This string is so funny, and so right to read......   I was out of anything to do with pipe organs for almost 20 years and have =   just gotten back into it in the last 3 or 4.   I am still stunned by the seemingly endless string of folks who act like some little god, controlling access to these instruments as if it were a heavenly gift to let anyone get near them.   We just removed a board member from a group I am deeply involved in for, among other things, just this type of action....   And, the kicker is that some of these morons spend their every waking hour =   working on the these instruments so no one can hear them....   And, I am not even talking about Churches....!!!!   Steve L _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: toss-up From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:53:19 EST     --part1_ce.129e9cf5.27f362ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/27/01 7:37:05 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > There was LITERALLY not room for ONE RANK of pipes ANYWHERE in the > building ... the church was on the historical register; it couldn't be > altered. > >   You cannot get away with that statement. A 3rank Felgemaker would fit perfectly into such a room, provide an appropriate sound, and be = historically accurate. It would not take up more space than a big electroconsole and would fit under a 9 or 10' ceiling, possibly even 8'.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_ce.129e9cf5.27f362ef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/27/01 7:37:05 PM !!!First Boot!!!, quilisma@socal.rr.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">There was = LITERALLY not room for ONE RANK of pipes ANYWHERE in the <BR>building ... the church was on the historical register; it couldn't be <BR>altered. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>You cannot get away with that statement. &nbsp;&nbsp;A 3rank = Felgemaker would fit <BR>perfectly into such a room, provide an appropriate sound, and be = historically <BR>accurate. &nbsp;It would not take up more space than a big = electroconsole and <BR>would fit under a 9 or 10' ceiling, possibly even 8'. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ce.129e9cf5.27f362ef_boundary--