PipeChat Digest #1971 - Wednesday, March 28, 2001
 
Re: ALL READ IMMEDIATELY!!!!!
  by <Mozart609@aol.com>
Re: Big Name Organists
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Organists' Lives & Obituaries
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: mc~ organs in limbo
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Big Name Organists
  by "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com>
Re: Bish owns a Ro(d)gers?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
organ at St. Elizabeth's Church, New York City
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: Bish owns a Ro(d)gers?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: specifications of 1938 Whitelegg-Moller at Holy Name of  Jesus, New Y
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: prayer and guidance
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Swell division: Whitelegg-Moller
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
RE: prayer and guidance
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Glenn Gould playing Bach
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: ALL READ IMMEDIATELY!!!!! From: <Mozart609@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:09:32 EST     --part1_a8.132695c1.27f390ec_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Opus1100 wrote >"Does anyone else on the list find it annoying that all the intelligient >folks on this list have let this mispelling go on for so long......"     Is this going to ever STOP!!!!! This is ridiculous! I joined this to learn =   some new things. Not to be insulted with stupid nonsense.   If this continues. I am going to drop this list. I am a young church = musician about to graduate from Westminster Choir College and also am an older = student (35) and one does not need this silly stuff.   Mitch Weisiger   --part1_a8.132695c1.27f390ec_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#800040" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><B>Opus1100 wrote <BR>&gt;"Does anyone else on the list find it annoying that all the = intelligient <BR>&gt;folks on this list have let this mispelling go on for so = long......" <BR> <BR> <BR>Is this going to ever STOP!!!!! This is ridiculous! I joined this to = learn <BR>some new things. Not to be insulted with stupid nonsense. <BR> <BR>If this continues. I am going to drop this list. I am a young church = musician <BR>about to graduate from Westminster Choir College and also am an older = student <BR>(35) and one does not need this silly stuff. <BR> <BR>Mitch Weisiger</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_a8.132695c1.27f390ec_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Big Name Organists From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:50:44 -0800   At 07:15 AM 3/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: > WHY on the news programs are never passing theatre organists/ concert >organists obits mentioned? Even on PBS Newshour George Wright, Gaylord >Carter, et al were never aired. Victor Borge made the list. > Were these people invisible ?<snip>   Hot hardly. Interestingly, Gaylord Carter's passing made for a pretty = nice article in the Los Angeles Times, as Carter was a big part of the theater organ scene there for decades. He got his start at the Million Dollar Theater in 1925 and was well known by Angelinos ever since. However, I don't recall a word in print in the same paper about George Wright. It's interesting, indeed, how organists seem to be "invisible" compared to = their piano counterparts. Sadly, a piano humorist seems to garner a lot more attention than any organist.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists' Lives & Obituaries From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:00:08 -0800   At 08:55 AM 3/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: >"I don't want to be a victim of this, >and I don't want to BECOME a person like this. >The clarinet or violin looks safer."<snip>   A cogent point indeed, and precisely, accompanied by a distaste for churches in general, why I left the organ behind as a serious performance vehicle many years ago. The backbiting and silliness that goes on in the "organ world" is far more than I needed! At least in battling with Korporate Amerika, I got paid well and have a nice pension! Still, I have =   the utmost respect for those that soldier on, week after week, to unappreciative and bitchy congregations. May St. Cecelia show favor to = you all.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: mc~ organs in limbo From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:05:42 -0800   At 10:30 AM 3/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: I remember when an historic church I was working with was applying for = grants >for restoration, although the windows and interior furnishings were >considered part of the building, the organ was not. 'Tis a shame. = <snip>   Note also that the recent renovations at Atlantic City have done = absolutely nothing for the organs, and wound up completely removing the relay for the =   big Kimball! Organs just don't matter anymore, it seems, no matter their historical value.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Big Name Organists From: "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:20:04 -0500   George Wright actually did get quite a nice "Wright"-up in the LA Times = and the San Francisco Chronicle.   You can find them somewhere on his memorial page located on the theatreorgans.com website the last time I looked...   But, that was about 2 years ago..       Steve LaManna AVI Creative Show Services 7101 Presidents Drive Suite 105 Orlando, FL 32809 Toll Free: 888.251.9651 x3714 FAX:407.854.0969 A national leader in full service production, staging, video, graphics and =   creative services for the meetings, incentive and convention industries. http://www.aviinc.com/cs   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Ro(d)gers? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:23:22 EST     --part1_25.12f36711.27f3942a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/28/01 5:48:34 PM !!!First Boot!!!, opus1100@catoe.org =   writes:     > Does anyone else on the list find it annoying that all the intelligient > >folks on this list have let this mispelling go on for so long...... >   Doesn't bother me a bit. Rogers or Alen.... we all know what we're = talking about.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_25.12f36711.27f3942a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/28/01 5:48:34 PM !!!First Boot!!!, opus1100@catoe.org <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Does anyone else = on the list find it annoying that all the intelligient <BR>&gt;folks on this list have let this mispelling go on for so = long...... <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Doesn't bother me a bit. &nbsp;&nbsp;Rogers or Alen.... we all know = what we're talking <BR>about. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_25.12f36711.27f3942a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: organ at St. Elizabeth's Church, New York City From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:25:11 EST     --part1_f7.887f196.27f39497_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   St. Elizabeth's Church in northern Manhattan (Washington Heights), New = York City is the grandest church anywhere in the vicinity. While it looks = relatively unprepossessing from the outside, the interior is really breathtaking: an enormous space in which all parts of the room rise to the same lofty = height. The acoustics are extraordinary --- I would say 5 seconds of = reverberation, when the church is empty, somewhat less when full.   The organ is a Casavant from the 1930s --- I don't have the exact year offhand. 3M and approximately 40 ranks. Mixtures on all divisions. The Swell = reeds are quite powerful, but rarely used --- the organists here seem afraid of them! The organ is in relatively good condition, although some of the upperwork and reeds go out of tune now and then --- presumably due to insufficiently frequent maintenance. (Also: fluctuations in temperature = when the seasons change.)   Other appurtenances in this church: an elaborate marble altar; splendid stained glass windows; and original religious oil paintings on the walls. =   It's located on West 187th St. and Wadsworth Avenue. (Nearest subway = stop: # 1 train on the IRT line, 191st. St. stop.) Masses are held daily (Monday = to Friday) at 7:30 and 9 a.m. (English) and 12 noon and 5:30 p.m. (Spanish); Saturdays 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. (English) and 7:30 p.m. (Spanish); Sundays = 7:30, 9:30, 12:30 (English) and 8:30 and 11 (Spanish).   Associated with St. Elizabeth's parish is the Chapel of St. Francis Xavier =   Cabrini, Fort Washington Avenue and 193rd St., opposite Fort Tryon Park. =   (subway: A train, 190th St. stop.) This is a smaller but interesting = modern church, with an Italian organ. (Not Ruffatti --- Tamburini, I think.) = The most unusual aspect of this church is that the earthly remains of St. = Francis Xavier Cabrini lie on full public display, in a glass-enclosed sarcophagus =   directly beneath the main high altar!   It's said that one of the miracles of St. Francis Xavier Cabrini --- you = need three miracles to qualify for sainthood! --- is that her body did not = decay after death. However, the curators have thoughtfully created a wax mask = to cover her face --- since, evidently, there was some deterioration there. This chapel is open daily from 9 to 4; but you will rarely hear the organ played, except for actual services. (Sunday, 9 and 11 [English]).   The organ is in good condition. I tried it out once; but the nuns on the premises objected to "all that loud organ music"! (Although when the kids =   from the adjoining junior high school come in yelling and screaming, that doesn't seem to upset said nuns particularly.)   Arthur LaMirande       --part1_f7.887f196.27f39497_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>St. Elizabeth's Church = in northern Manhattan (Washington Heights), New York <BR>City <BR>is the grandest church anywhere in the vicinity. &nbsp;While it looks = relatively <BR>unprepossessing from the outside, the interior is really breathtaking: = an <BR>enormous space in which all parts of the room rise to the same lofty = height. &nbsp; <BR>The acoustics are extraordinary --- I would say 5 seconds of = reverberation, <BR>when the church is empty, somewhat less when full. <BR> <BR>The organ is a Casavant from the 1930s --- I don't have the exact year =   <BR>offhand. <BR>3M and approximately 40 ranks. &nbsp;Mixtures on all divisions. = &nbsp;The Swell reeds <BR>are quite powerful, but rarely used --- the organists here seem afraid = of <BR>them! &nbsp;The organ is in relatively good condition, although some = of the <BR>upperwork and reeds go out of tune now and then --- presumably due to <BR>insufficiently frequent maintenance. &nbsp;(Also: fluctuations in = temperature when <BR>the seasons change.) <BR> <BR>Other appurtenances in this church: an elaborate marble altar; splendid <BR>stained glass windows; and original religious oil paintings on the = walls. &nbsp; <BR>It's located on West 187th St. and Wadsworth Avenue. &nbsp;(Nearest = subway stop: # <BR>1 train on the IRT line, 191st. St. stop.) &nbsp;Masses are held daily = (Monday to <BR>Friday) at 7:30 and 9 a.m. (English) and 12 noon and 5:30 p.m. = (Spanish); <BR>Saturdays 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. (English) and 7:30 p.m. (Spanish); Sundays = 7:30, <BR>9:30, 12:30 (English) and 8:30 and 11 (Spanish). <BR> <BR>Associated with St. Elizabeth's parish is the Chapel of St. Francis = Xavier <BR>Cabrini, &nbsp;Fort Washington Avenue and 193rd St., opposite Fort = Tryon Park. &nbsp; <BR>(subway: A train, 190th St. stop.) &nbsp;This is a smaller but = interesting modern <BR>church, with an Italian organ. &nbsp;(Not Ruffatti --- Tamburini, I = think.) &nbsp;The <BR>most unusual aspect of this church is that the earthly remains of St. = Francis <BR>Xavier Cabrini lie on full public display, in a glass-enclosed = sarcophagus <BR>directly beneath the main high altar! <BR> <BR>It's said that one of the miracles of St. Francis Xavier Cabrini --- = you need <BR>three miracles to qualify for sainthood! --- is that her body did not = decay <BR>after death. &nbsp;However, the curators have thoughtfully created a = wax mask to <BR>cover her face --- since, evidently, there was some deterioration = there. &nbsp; <BR>This chapel is open daily from 9 to 4; but you will rarely hear the = organ <BR>played, except for actual services. <BR>(Sunday, 9 and 11 [English]). <BR> <BR>The organ is in good condition. &nbsp;I tried it out once; but the = nuns on the <BR>premises objected to "all that loud organ music"! &nbsp;(Although when = the kids <BR>from the adjoining junior high school come in yelling and screaming, = that <BR>doesn't seem to upset said nuns particularly.) <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_f7.887f196.27f39497_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bish owns a Ro(d)gers? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:15:02 -0800   At 12:58 PM 3/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: >,,,that it was just as correct to spell it Moeller as Moller,,,<snip>   It's neither. It is M=D6LLER.   Diacritically yours,   DeserTBoB        
(back) Subject: Re: specifications of 1938 Whitelegg-Moller at Holy Name of Jesus, New York From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:31:24 -0800   At 01:46 PM 3/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: >These are the specifications for the 1938 Moller organ at Holy Name of= Jesus, >New York City, as designed by Richard Whitelegg (d. 1944): <snip>   Now HERE'S something perhaps the preservationists should sink their teeth=20 into! So little of M=F6ller's quality work remains, but so much of their=20 trash does. Note the use of an English style "harmonics" on the great, as= =20 well as the trademark keraulophone and harmonic flute. This organ is=20 probably descriptive of some of Whitelegg's best output, and should be=20 heard, rather than sit collecting dust. Wags of antiquity would disagree,= =20 but wouldn't this organ seem worthy of at least some of the attention=20 lavished upon the E. & G.G. Hook at IC in Baaahstun? At least the IC organ= =20 is playing!   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: prayer and guidance From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:33:57 -0800 (PST)     --- Pologaptommy@aol.com wrote: > This is all I have to say. This is all I need to say. I want you all = to > know, that I have in no way intended to point fingers, or offend anyone = in > any way! It is my desire only to give you the point of view of a very = young, > very confused person! > Thank you for reading <snip>   Thanks Josh for sharing that. I'm with you!   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=3Dtext  
(back) Subject: Swell division: Whitelegg-Moller From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:34:47 EST     --part1_6.141ef258.27f396d7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Alas, in my previous posting, the specs for the Swell division of the 1938 =   Whitelegg-Moller at Holy Name of Jesus, New York ran off the page. = (Looked OK on my own computer screen, but fell off the page in transmission.)   Rather than reprint all of the specs again, I'll just print here the Swell =   division:   SWELL 4 1/2" V-16 R-20 S-16 16 Bourdon 73 8 Diapason 73 8 Stopped Flute 73 8 Gamba 73 8 Salicional 73 8 Voix Celeste 73 8 Aeoline 73 4 Fl. Traverso 73 4 Gemshorn 73 2 Flageolet 6" 61 V Plein-Jeu 6" 305 16 Trumpet 6" 73 8 Trumpet 6" 73 8 Oboe 6" 73 8 Vox Humana 73 4 Clarion 6" 73 Tremulant   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_6.141ef258.27f396d7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Alas, in my previous = posting, the specs for the Swell division of the 1938 <BR>Whitelegg-Moller at Holy Name of Jesus, New York ran off the page. = &nbsp;&nbsp;(Looked <BR>OK on my own computer screen, but fell off the page in transmission.) <BR> <BR>Rather than reprint all of the specs again, I'll just print here the = Swell <BR>division: <BR> <BR>SWELL <BR>4 1/2" &nbsp;V-16 R-20 S-16 <BR>16 Bourdon 73 <BR>8 Diapason 73 <BR>8 Stopped Flute 73 <BR>8 Gamba 73 <BR>8 Salicional 73 <BR>8 Voix Celeste 73 <BR>8 Aeoline 73 <BR>4 Fl. Traverso 73 <BR>4 Gemshorn 73 <BR>2 Flageolet 6" 61 <BR>V Plein-Jeu 6" 305 <BR>16 Trumpet 6" 73 <BR>8 Trumpet 6" 73 <BR>8 Oboe 6" 73 <BR>8 Vox Humana 73 <BR>4 Clarion 6" 73 <BR>Tremulant <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6.141ef258.27f396d7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: prayer and guidance From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:39:45 -0600   Dear List: I am struck by how our younger members have called our attention to important matters as we share this privileged forum. I know I stand chastised and will strive to do better. Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Pologaptommy@aol.com [mailto:Pologaptommy@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:37 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: prayer and guidance     Hello all... You have all been there for me several times since I joined the list, and = I have sincerely expressed my thanks to all of those who have taken the time to guide me through these difficult times in my life...I want to include that = I   have grown to respect, and trust all of you and it is not my intention to offend anyone in anyway!   However I am horrified, and saddened by what has gone on here for the past =   couple of days.        
(back) Subject: Glenn Gould playing Bach From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:40:46 EST     --part1_bb.ce1fee2.27f3983e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   A friend shared this with me. Thought some on the lists might be = interested.   A comapny called The Good Music Company is offering 13 CDs of Glenn Gould playing Bach (on piano, not organ). The total price is $35 dollars. The ad =   doesn't say whether or not it is the complete works of Bach.   Their net address is: <A = HREF=3D"http://www.yestermusic.com/">www.yestermusic.com</A>       Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_bb.ce1fee2.27f3983e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>A friend shared this = with me. &nbsp;&nbsp;Thought some on the lists might be interested. <BR> <BR>A comapny called The Good Music Company is offering 13 CDs of Glenn = Gould <BR>playing Bach (on piano, not organ). The total price is $35 dollars. = The ad <BR>doesn't <BR>say whether or not it is the complete works of Bach. <BR> <BR>Their net address is: <A = HREF=3D"http://www.yestermusic.com/">www.yestermusic.com</A> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_bb.ce1fee2.27f3983e_boundary--