PipeChat Digest #1978 - Thursday, March 29, 2001
 
Re: Infalmmatory Remarks
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Where for art thou desertBob?
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: Infalmmatory Remarks
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re:  Hey Bruce!
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Westminster Abbey UK
  by "alantaylor" <alantaylor@onetel.net.uk>
Re: Whitelegg-Moller in Chicago
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
RE: Infalmmatory Remarks
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
shipping costs on Allen TC-1
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Moller, Moeller, Molar
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Dallas Question
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments -brief and not complete explanation
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Baroque Sheet Music on CD-ROM
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
correct name/another shot
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
sending favorite music
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: inch of space/releathering, etc.
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Moller, Moeller, Molar
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Infalmmatory Remarks From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:22:43 EST     --part1_5a.132afeb7.27f4f393_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/29/01 7:25:04 PM !!!First Boot!!!, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:     > , how does one maintain one of these instruments, and what are > the average yearly and millenial (that spelling doesn't look right) = costs? > > >   Do you mean.... "How do the maintenance costs boil down?" ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_5a.132afeb7.27f4f393_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/29/01 7:25:04 PM !!!First Boot!!!, <BR>gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">, how does one = maintain one of these instruments, and what are <BR>the average yearly and millenial (that spelling doesn't look right) = costs? <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Do you mean.... &nbsp;"How do the maintenance costs boil down?" = &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5a.132afeb7.27f4f393_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Where for art thou desertBob? From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:25:23 EST     --part1_26.134e7635.27f4f433_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   OOOPS! I'm sorry   Dennis   --part1_26.134e7635.27f4f433_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>OOOPS! &nbsp;I'm sorry <BR> <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_26.134e7635.27f4f433_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Infalmmatory Remarks From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:38:54 -0500   BTW, I can't edit the previous threads from this. I have a blank on the screen with the Subject line filled in. I'm using Netscape Messenger.   I heard two things about that organ... Sidney Torch used it for his recording of "Hot Dog" in the 30s.   and secondly.   A lightening strike rendered it unplayable after the circuits were fried.   Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: Hey Bruce! From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:03:04 EST     --part1_76.9029c10.27f4fd08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hey Bruce, glad to see I'm not the only one who reads Jim Hightower! = Ain't he a hoot? I'll vote for Ron Severin anytime!!!   Dennis   --part1_76.9029c10.27f4fd08_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hey Bruce, glad to see = I'm not the only one who reads Jim Hightower! &nbsp;Ain't <BR>he a hoot? &nbsp;I'll vote for Ron Severin anytime!!! <BR> <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_76.9029c10.27f4fd08_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Westminster Abbey UK From: "alantaylor" <alantaylor@onetel.net.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:12:47 +0100   Mr ALamiranda mentioned that a cleric of Westminster Abbey had been rude = to him in the 1950's.   I would think that this was a minor canon called Revd J Perkins. Dr = Perkins was a minor canon for some 60 years and had quite a reputation for being rude. He had freehold. Which meant he could not be sacked and therfore had = a job for life. However, he did leave enough money to the abbey with which = to recast the bells. And also wrote a number of books about the history of = the abbey including a history of the organs.   So Mr ALmiranda it wasn't personal just normal for him.   Alan Taylor    
(back) Subject: Re: Whitelegg-Moller in Chicago From: <KurtvonS@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:45:26 EST     --part1_6f.133d372b.27f506f6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/29/01 1:17:21 PM Central Standard Time, ALamirande@aol.com writes:     > The May issue says that his article (on the Holy Name organ) is the = first of > a two-part series, the second of which would be covering another recent > installation of a large 4-manual organ. But I've never seen the June = 1938 > issue. > > I'm afraid my issues of the Diapason and TAO don't go earlier than the = late '40's. I would imagine that Barnes took a great interest in the Schurz organ, as it would have been a novel sound in Chicago at the time.   KvS   --part1_6f.133d372b.27f506f6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/29/01 1:17:21 PM Central Standard Time, <BR>ALamirande@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The May issue says = that his article (on the Holy Name organ) is the first of <BR>a two-part series, the second of which would be covering another = recent <BR>installation of a large 4-manual organ. &nbsp;But I've never seen the = June 1938 <BR>issue. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>I'm afraid my issues of the Diapason and TAO don't go earlier than the = late <BR>'40's. &nbsp;I would imagine that Barnes took a great interest in the = Schurz <BR>organ, as it would have been a novel sound in Chicago at the time. <BR> <BR>KvS</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6f.133d372b.27f506f6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Infalmmatory Remarks From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:48:54 -0600   Watch out for Hoof and Mouth Disease....   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:36 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Infalmmatory Remarks     O geez! How could I have missed this.   The manuals would be the   Hoofdwerk and the ClovenHoofdwerk   oh.... this is too much fun heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee= h ee   heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee= h ee   heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee= h ee   heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee= h ee   heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee= h ee   heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee... etc   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/    
(back) Subject: shipping costs on Allen TC-1 From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:16:03 EST     --part1_8e.1336601c.27f50e23_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi...I just wanted to see if any of you could tell me the approximate = price for shipping an Allen TC-1 from Oregon, to Texas (or be willing to do = it!). I would also like some info on the organ if available... Thanks Josh   --part1_8e.1336601c.27f50e23_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi...I just wanted to = see if any of you could tell me the approximate price <BR>for shipping an Allen TC-1 from Oregon, to Texas (or be willing to do = it!). <BR>I would also like some info on the organ if available... <BR>Thanks <BR>Josh</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8e.1336601c.27f50e23_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1 From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:53:17 -0800     --------------3200C9AC3C1E2736794BFBDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   A fifty-year-old TC-1 is worth less than $500 ... the shipping would be more than that, I'd imagine. Also, remember that the TC-1 does NOT have overhanging manuals (unless it's one that was made at the end of production of that model ... I think they MIGHT have changed them toward the end) or an AGO pedal-board ... it has 32 PEDALS, but the sharps are shortened ... Allen did that to make a console that would fit into the 5' square pits that so many churches had built for their old Hammonds.   There are certainly enough used electronic organs in the DFW area that you don't need to haul a TC-1 from OREGON (grin).   A TC-3 DOES have an AGO console and pedal-board, as I recall, if you happen to come across one of those.   Cheers,   Bud   Pologaptommy@aol.com wrote:   > Hi...I just wanted to see if any of you could tell me the approximate > price > for shipping an Allen TC-1 from Oregon, to Texas (or be willing to do > it!). > I would also like some info on the organ if available... > Thanks > Josh   --------------3200C9AC3C1E2736794BFBDD Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> A fifty-year-old TC-1 is worth less than $500 ... the shipping would be more than that, I'd imagine. Also, remember that the TC-1 does NOT have overhanging manuals (unless it's one that was made at the end of = production of that model ... I think they MIGHT have changed them toward the end) or an AGO pedal-board ... it has 32 PEDALS, but the sharps are shortened .... Allen did that to make a console that would fit into the 5' square pits that so many churches had built for their old Hammonds. <p>There are certainly enough used electronic organs in the DFW area that you don't need to haul a TC-1 from OREGON (grin). <p>A TC-3 DOES have an AGO console and pedal-board, as I recall, if you happen to come across one of those. <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>Pologaptommy@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Hi...I just wanted to see if any of you could tell me the approximate = price</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>for shipping an Allen = TC-1 from Oregon, to Texas (or be willing to do it!).</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>I would also like some = info on the organ if available...</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Thanks</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Josh</font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------3200C9AC3C1E2736794BFBDD--    
(back) Subject: Re: Moller, Moeller, Molar From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:00:04 EST   In a message dated 3/29/01 2:21:56 PM EST, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   > >The Moller family was Danish.<snip> > =20 > Maybe it should be M=F8ller! LOLOL > =20 > dB Isn't that Finnish?...we all know by now that the Moller company is indeed=20 finished...the M. P. now translated Macungie, Pennsylvania.  
(back) Subject: Re: Dallas Question From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:00:01 EST   In a message dated 3/29/01 7:57:10 AM EST, david@blackiris.com writes:   > One of them confirmed that > the building does hold an organ but that it is currently out of the > building for rebuilding. > > Does anyone have any information about this? > You might try asking Harry Heth. Altho he is in HOuston (as opposed to Dallas/Ft Worth) he might be in the know, especially if it is an ATOS project. (Harry wsa prexy of ATOS a few yrs back, and is well informed on theatre organ stuff.)   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments -brief and not complete explanation From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:00:03 EST   In a message dated 3/29/01 12:39:18 PM EST, Orgnplayer@aol.com writes:   > Okay, I'm sure this is a HUGE subject, but can anyone enlighten me (in simple > > layman's terms) about alternate tunings and temperaments? What is = their > proper use? How do they differ from each other? In a nutshell...   Tempering refers to the relationship of the various intervals in the = diatonic scale. There are 12 half-steps in each octave. (in all temperaments, octaves are 'purely' or exactly tuned - as opposed to pianos where the octaqves are "stretched" outwards to compensate for percieved pitch shift at very = low/high pitches. OK   in euqal tempered tuning, the octave is divided into 12 more-or-less = equal intervals, depending on how good the tuner's ears are, or how accurate the =   tuners reference machine is (if the tuner uses a tuning machine, which = some do, some don't). With equal-temper tuning the fifths are tuned slightly flat to perfect (no =   beat audible), the fourths are tuned sliightly sharp to perfect. this compromise allows the tuner to set one octave using the circle of fifths, then the tuner tunes up and down octaves to complete the reference rank, = the the rest of the organ to the reference rank...   with non-equal temper tuning, and there are lots of them, each providing their own 'color' to the music the intervals are based on certain = intervals being tuned more perfectly, others less perfectly (so that major thirds, = for example, might be more "in tune" in most keys - where as in equal temper tuning, the thirds tend to be more out-of-tune in all keys because of the compromise resulting from the process of "equal" tempering) Most non-equal =   tempering results in one or two keys where the out-of-tune-ness is = somewhat pronounced. (this is called the "wolf" key) in Werckmeister 3, which is a popular tuning (and is probably available on your brand A) the "wolf" key = is A-flat (or F-minor) and D-flat. if you hold a chord (say a c-major triad) = and change the temperament setting the change will probalby be relatively = minor, but you will hear a "color shift" then try holding an E-flat major chord, =   then, again shift thru the available temperaments. you will prob ably = notice a more pronounced "color" shift.   Hope this helps.   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Baroque Sheet Music on CD-ROM From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:23:32 -0500   The same folks who brought you the complete organ works of J. S. Bach on CD-ROM have now produced a similar CD-ROM of all of the organ works of Buxtehude, Sweelinck, Froberger, and Pachelbel -- 1,100 sheets of music. = It also includes all of the Concertos for Organ and Orchestra of Handel in = full scores, but not arranged for organ solo. The CD-ROM is now in stock at the OHS Catalog www.ohscatalog.org ($17.50 to OHS members, $18.95 to others).   Bill    
(back) Subject: Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1 From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:29:10 EST   Josh:   I recently had a spinet piano shipped and the cost was $1.25 per mile. An Allen TC-1 is about the same size.   Tom  
(back) Subject: correct name/another shot From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:31:53 EST     --part1_35.12d00a2e.27f51fe9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   To Tuba Magna and any other organ builders around:   The correct name of the current Pastor of the Church of the Holy Name of Jesus in New York is:   Rev. Jerome Massimino, O.F.M.   Just in case you might want to give it another shot --- that is, at making = a proposal for the restoration of the organ. They've restored just about everything else in that edifice: why not the organ, at long last? (I'm = sure they must have collected some insurance money from that fire by now.)   The name of the organist is Peter Adamczyk, who holds the title of = Director of Music. The "Assistant" Director of Music is the lady cantor: Heather Sarris.   A telephone call will get faster results than a letter. Priests, = generally speaking, don't like to deal with letters.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_35.12d00a2e.27f51fe9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>To Tuba Magna and any = other organ builders around: <BR> <BR>The correct name of the current Pastor of the Church of the Holy Name = of <BR>Jesus in New York is: <BR> <BR>Rev. Jerome Massimino, O.F.M. <BR> <BR>Just in case you might want to give it another shot --- that is, at = making a <BR>proposal for the restoration of the organ. &nbsp;They've restored just = about <BR>everything else in that edifice: why not the organ, at long last? = &nbsp;(I'm sure <BR>they must have collected some insurance money from that fire by now.) <BR> <BR>The name of the organist is Peter Adamczyk, who holds the title of = Director <BR>of Music. &nbsp;The "Assistant" Director of Music is the lady cantor: = Heather <BR>Sarris. <BR> <BR>A telephone call will get faster results than a letter. &nbsp;Priests, = generally <BR>speaking, don't like to deal with letters. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_35.12d00a2e.27f51fe9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: sending favorite music From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:40:44 -0800 (PST)     As soon as I can get to the church to look at my library, I'll send some = selections!   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=3Dtext  
(back) Subject: Re: inch of space/releathering, etc. From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:16:32 EST     --part1_da.3ff7f5f.27f52a60_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/29/2001 2:38:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, ALamirande@aol.com writes:     > I can tell you all that, back in the 70s and 80s, the American Guild of > Organists took absolutely no interest in the preservation of this = historic > instrument whatsoever. As far as I can discern, nothing has changed in > that > regard in the intervening 20 years   So, it is your opinion that The American Guild of Organists should somehow =   become involved in the preservation of some church's organ. Well, the AGO = is US, not you, of course - Lord no, but us plebs, including most people on = this very list which gives you a sounding board. Not everyone likes everything about the organization, but some of us work really hard making it = something more than the sum of us. I am heavily involved in our Pipe Organ = Encounter, for example - a great work of the AGO. I expect to attend the Region 1 convention (after OHS), and know I will benefit in a hundred ways from = that. But if one is too busy sneering at the organization, there is no time left = to join in and help or to benefit oneself. If someone from the church, or a private citizen like yourself, were to devise a campaign to rescue this organ, to find funding and to garner publicity - in other words, to do = some work(!), you can be sure the Guild would print what they were given. (I believe you DO like to write letters!) To expect them to initiate or = direct such activity is sheer folly, and rightly so.   I certainly don't want one ounce of AGO staff labor or money going toward = the restoration of the organ of a church that doesn't itself give a damn, or = even if it does. Boy, I could use some work on my historic Hook & Hastings, and = we can't afford it, but we do give a damn. Fling wide the gates. Here we come = - line forms at the left. Through the magazine, the Guild has indeed = supported restorations of instruments of importance. It ran Ray Biswanger's lengthy = and splendid articles about the Wanamaker, lots about the Mormon Tabernacle, = and so much more. What on earth else you expect from an organization you once described to me as a "bunch of crooks," I cannot imagine.   Soli Deo gloria,   Malcolm     --part1_da.3ff7f5f.27f52a60_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 3/29/2001 2:38:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>ALamirande@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I can tell you all = that, back in the 70s and 80s, the American Guild of <BR>Organists took absolutely no interest in the preservation of this = historic <BR>instrument whatsoever. &nbsp;As far as I can discern, nothing has = changed in <BR>that <BR>regard in the intervening 20 years</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>So, it is your opinion that The American Guild of Organists should = somehow <BR>become involved in the preservation of some church's organ. Well, the = AGO is <BR>US, not you, of course - Lord no, but us plebs, including most people = on this <BR>very list which gives you a sounding board. Not everyone likes = everything <BR>about the organization, but some of us work really hard making it = something <BR>more than the sum of us. I am heavily involved in our Pipe Organ = Encounter, <BR>for example - a great work of the AGO. I expect to attend the Region 1 =   <BR>convention (after OHS), and know I will benefit in a hundred ways from = that. <BR>But if one is too busy sneering at the organization, there is no time = left to <BR>join in and help or to benefit oneself. If someone from the church, or = a <BR>private citizen like yourself, were to devise a campaign to rescue this <BR>organ, to find funding and to garner &nbsp;publicity - in other words, = to do some <BR>work(!), you can be sure the Guild would print what they were given. = (I <BR>believe you DO like to write letters!) To expect them to initiate or = direct <BR>such activity is sheer folly, and rightly so. <BR> <BR>I certainly don't want one ounce of AGO staff labor or money going = toward the <BR>restoration of the organ of a church that doesn't itself give a damn, = or even <BR>if it does. Boy, I could use some work on my historic Hook &amp; = Hastings, and we <BR>can't afford it, but we do give a damn. Fling wide the gates. Here we = come - <BR>line forms at the left. Through the magazine, the Guild has indeed = supported <BR>restorations of instruments of importance. It ran Ray Biswanger's = lengthy and <BR>splendid articles about the Wanamaker, lots about the Mormon = Tabernacle, and <BR>so much more. What on earth else you expect from an organization you = once <BR>described to me as a "bunch of crooks," I cannot imagine. <BR> <BR>Soli Deo gloria, <BR> <BR>Malcolm &nbsp; <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML>   --part1_da.3ff7f5f.27f52a60_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:14:53 -0800   At 05:16 PM 3/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Hi...I just wanted to see if any of you could tell me the approximate = price >for shipping an Allen TC-1 from Oregon, to Texas (or be willing to do = it!). >I would also like some info on the organ if available... <snip>   Allen TC-1: Two ranks of unified oscillators, one diapason/string, on flute, celeste rank optional (to TC), single monaural channel, on-board germanium power amp. Usually sold with a single Gyrophonic Projector. AGO-like "princess" console with the usual "princess" pedals, almost AGO but not quite. Very trouble free service except for keying capacitors, cheap japanese electrolytics that must all be replaced at some =   time. Tuning stability good. Fits well in home.   Cost of shipping depends on carrier. Options are Keybaord Exchange and Shafer Bros. Shipping will be more than the organ is worth, for certain, especially if shipped with Gyro.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: shipping costs on Allen TC-1 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:41 -0800   At 02:53 PM 3/29/2001 -0800, you wrote: >A fifty-year-old TC-1 is worth less than $500 ... the shipping would be >more than that, I'd imagine. Also, remember that the TC-1 does NOT have >overhanging manuals<snip>   Wrong. Earliest TC-1s from 1958 had "piano" keys, a la Hammond, Baldwin and other "princess" Allens. TC-1s after about 1961 had full regulation AGO manuals, including the proper "tilt"   A TC-3 DOES have an AGO console and pedal-board, as I recall, if you = happen to come across one of those. <snip>   TC-3/3S had indeed the regular Allen "full size" AGO console that dated back to 1945, and had real AGO spec pedals. These are good practice = organs as well, usually have the reed rank, and are had cheaply enough. They do take up more room and weigh more than the TC-1.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Moller, Moeller, Molar From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:29:46 -0600   At Quimby Pipe Organs I am currently working on the restoration of an 189= 4 Moller tracker which I believe to be the third oldest Moller organ in existence. The nameplate, which is the only known silver Moller nameplat= e according the the late Alan Laufman, has "M. P.MOLLER, HAGERSTOWN, MD." w= ith an umlaut. The metal pipework is signed, apparently by the voicer, "M.P. Moller" (yes, apparently the Great Dane himself), in handwriting very similar to the well-known Moller logo and with an umlaut. As far as I am aware, M.P. Moller always used the umlaut. The research I have done into Moller's Danish oigins lead me to believe that the name Moller in Denmark= is spelt M=F6ller or M=F8ller interchangeably. My apologies to anyone for w= hom these characters don't print out.   John Speller     ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com>   > The Moller family was Danish. > The umlaut was added later, as an afterthought, because it gave old-wor= ld > panache. > The nameplates on later Mollers included the umlaut.