PipeChat Digest #1980 - Friday, March 30, 2001
 
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Re: Infalmmatory Remarks
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Infalmmatory Remarks
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Silent Film with Theatre Pipe Organ (Chicago Area)(Crossposted)
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
RE: inch of space/releathering, etc.
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
RE: inch of space/releathering, etc.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Some New Books from the Organ Literature Foundation
  by "Joe Vitacco" <joe@pipeorgancds.com>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Infalmmatory Remarks
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:48:17 -0500   To Larry and the List:   Two years ago I decided to transcribe all of the LP's to CD. The CD recorders today are about half the price they were two years ago and just as good. Blank CD's are very inexpensive. I have seen them everyday for 30 cents each and as low as 8 cents each ( with a rebate ). I have not been able to tell the difference between an "audio" CD at $3.95 each and the 30 cent one. Maybe with an LP the dynamics are not wide enough to need "audio" CD's. With 78's and old LP's I can't imagine needing "audio" CD quality blank CD's.   I was surprised that I had collected 700 LP's over the 40 years I have been collecting them. Transcribing two a day will take me two years !!!! to complete the project.     Antoni   Larry wrote: > > Arthur and all, I have a old turntable that does 16&1/2, 33&1/3, 45, and > 78 rpm. Will not get rid of it; who knows when it might come in handy. > Certianly am not going to replace all my records with CDs. I would go > broke! I also have a CD player, of course. > > Regards, Larry > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Infalmmatory Remarks From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:16:38 -0500   > Those of us who build instruments made from radioactive sausages are >constantly under fire for not building "REAL" organs. I guarantee you = that >the sound produced by these delicious instruments, even at temperatures = as >low as 2,738,000 degrees centigrade, are indistinguishable from pipes. > Here at Orgues Saucissons Radioactifs de Liege, we get the most = pipelike >sound out of radioactive sausages. Our most recent instrument (IV = manuals, >225 ranks, 12,468 sausages including a TWO 32' cervelats, and a chamade >pepperoni at each end of the building) has won critical acclaim, notably = for >the incredible realism of the Brustwerk Rohrschalmei (make from low = sodium >chicken franks). > As to whether or not they last as long as pipe organs, well, the = facts >speak for themselves. While the little mechanical action pipe organ at = Sion >is a mere 620 years old, we anticipate the HALF-life of our instruments = to be >somewhere in the range of 18 million years. > >Elmo Visage de Poisson >Orgues Saucissons Radioactifs de Liege   WELL!!....   That should put an end to starving organists!   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Infalmmatory Remarks From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:28:23 -0600   Yeah, first they play, then they die.   Glenda Sutton   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> quoting TubaMagna:   > > Those of us who build instruments made from radioactive sausages = are > >constantly under fire for not building "REAL" organs. I   > >is a mere 620 years old, we anticipate the HALF-life of our instruments to be > >somewhere in the range of 18 million years.   > WELL!!.... > > That should put an end to starving organists! > > John V        
(back) Subject: Silent Film with Theatre Pipe Organ (Chicago Area)(Crossposted) From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:47:59 -0600   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_3329563= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   On Sunday April 1st at 2:30 PM the Pickwick Theatre and The Silent Film Society of Chicago presents Cecil B. DeMille's original 1927 silent film masterpiece "The King of Kings" with H.B.Warner playing Christ and Jacqueline Logan as Mary Magdalene. Musical accompaniment will be on Pickwick's original 1927 3/11 WurliTzer Theatre Pipe Organ, with Jay = Warren providing the photoplay accompaniment. Pickwick Theatre is at 5 S. = Prospect Ave (Touhy & Northwest HY) in Park Ridge, Illinois. Tickets are $10 day of =   show. Group rates available. Call (847) 825-5800   Please forgive the crossposting, as I would not wish anyone to miss out on =   this event for lack of hearing about it JCH --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_3329563= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> On Sunday April 1st at 2:30 PM the Pickwick Theatre and The Silent Film Society of Chicago presents Cecil B. DeMille's original 1927&nbsp; silent film masterpiece &quot;The King of Kings&quot; with H.B.Warner playing Christ and Jacqueline Logan as Mary Magdalene. Musical accompaniment will be on Pickwick's original 1927 3/11 WurliTzer Theatre Pipe Organ, with Jay Warren providing the photoplay accompaniment. Pickwick Theatre is at 5 S. Prospect Ave (Touhy &amp; Northwest HY) in Park Ridge, Illinois. Tickets are $10 day of show. Group rates available. Call (847) 825-5800 <br> <br> <i>Please forgive the crossposting, as I would not wish anyone to miss out on this event for lack of hearing about it&nbsp; JCH</i></html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_3329563= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: RE: inch of space/releathering, etc. From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:35:14 -0600   Perhaps this instrument, with 32' additions, could be moved to the to-be renovated Lincoln Center room where the New York Philharmonic will play under Lorin Maazel. It's the kind of venue where a donor with a = substantial ego could see the fruits of the gift. Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:05 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: inch of space/releathering, etc.     In a message dated 3/29/01 7:36:53 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ALamirande@aol.com =   writes:         What is needed: either a wealthy and generous benefactor, or a serious fund-raising drive. Neither appears to be in sight.           Perhaps there is a nice auditorium facility where the organ could be = moved, much as the Jacksonville Florida instrument. It's a wonderful situation. =     Lord knows, it certainly would be unique to have an example of good Moller =   work preserved! I remember some of their old work. T'was gorgeous, indeed.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/    
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:40:06 -0800   At 02:28 PM 3/30/2001 +0800, you wrote: >Well, Ron, I understood that even with an organ in equal temperament the >thirds (tierces) are tuned pure and so are the fifths.<snip>   Wrong. In ET, the thirds are quite wide indeed, 15.87 cents sharper than Pythagorian, and the fifths are narrow, although by a milder amount, less than 2 cents. Fourths are "wide", but by even a more mellow amount.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:47:30 -0800   At 07:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0500, you wrote: >With 78's and old LP's I can't imagine needing "audio" CD quality blank >CD's. <snip>   Din't fool yourself. Many well pressed LPs are QUITE good in terms of fidelity. A lot depends on the playback equipment of the owner, as well = as his disc handling techniques! I've seen many fine LPs trashed simply by poor handling and storage. As to the "audio CD" versus CD-R scam, it's similar to the VHS versus S-VHS tape cassette scam...the S-VHS used the same tape, but in a "deluxe" cassette that had a notch in it that would activate a microswitch within the S-VHS VCR. If the VCR didn't "see" that =   notch, video bandwidth was reduced! Of course, the simple solution was to =   cut a notch into all your standard VHS cassettes. Price difference? = $3.95 versus $15.95. And they say the Japanese are SO honest.....   dB    
(back) Subject: RE: inch of space/releathering, etc. From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:52:33 -0800   At 09:35 AM 3/30/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Perhaps this instrument, with 32' additions, could be moved to the to-be >renovated Lincoln Center room where the New York Philharmonic will play >under Lorin Maazel.<snip>   ....righting a wrong by Noo Yawk Fill organ haters that trashed the late,=20 great =C6olian-Skinner and banished it to the "silica basicila" behind the= =20 Orange Curtain out here in CA. Maazel, I believe, was never an organ hater= =20 and seemed to support the use of the instrument, unlike Osawa in Boston and= =20 many others. Perhaps the Severence Hall instrument is testimony of that, I= =20 don't know for sure. Of course, the original Lincoln Center acoustical=20 nightmare was caused by the same people that cause so much grief in=20 churches ... architects ... who then blamed the organ, much to the delight= =20 of the "Fill's" organ haters!   As bReWsE points out quite well, the Jacksonville project has proved to be= =20 a resounding success. A similar fate should be shown to this fine=20 Whitelegg instrument, indeed. "Preservationists" fawn over their trackers= =20 and what-not, but time marches on, and many fine instruments from the=20 twentieth century, such as this one, are indeed in jeopardy. Stewardship=20 of such musical and historic instruments, especially in Catholic churches,= =20 is deplorable. OUT of the churches and INTO the concert hall, I say!   For anyone who has not had the opportunity to play a Whitelegg M=F6ller=20 (M=F8ller?), you have missed something indeed. Never compare these=20 instruments to the trash of the 1960s, when M=F6ller was "cranking them out"= =20 like so many Allen TC-1s! Whitelegg's work was usually quite fine in=20 quality, and as Mr. Gluck aptly points out, "full of Willisisms"! While it= =20 was said by another lister that G. Donald Harrison didn't come over here to= =20 build the "Willis organ", but rather to "rebel against it", I think the=20 Willis philosophy in America was probably best described by Whitelegg's= work.   So few are left, a shame indeed. Perhaps some of the vaunted New York=20 tribe that's been grabbing so much of the floor space in here of late could= =20 actually make the connection that would make this fine idea by Mr. Storandt= =20 a reality.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:19:11 -0500   Did GW put-out 45's of his playing in the 50's for jukeboxes?   Rick    
(back) Subject: Some New Books from the Organ Literature Foundation From: "Joe Vitacco" <joe@pipeorgancds.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:53:09 -0500   Full details on the below listed books are available by going to http://www.pipeorgancds.com Thank you for you interest   Joe Vitacco   1. The Reed Organ: Its Design/Construction by H.F. Milnes   2. How to build a Small 2 manual Chamber Organ by H.F. Milnes   3. Modern Organ Stops by Bonavia-Hunt   4. The Electric Organ by Reginald Whitworth (dealing with different kinds of early electrical/pneumatic actions, relays, combination actions, windchester, etc)   5. Organ Building in New York City by John Ogasapian   6. Modern Organ by E.M. Skinner   7. The Rosevelt Catalog Printed 1888   8. Henry Erben by John Ogasapian   9. The Cinema and Theatre Organ by Whitworth   10. Duo-Art Aeolian Organ by Ausdley   11. Schweitzer Organ by Turner   12. Estey Organ Co. Care & Adjust   13.Foot Pumped Organ by Jorgensen   14. Organs I Have Met by Lemare   15. Theatre Organ World by various authors   16. Organs of our Time by Homer Blanchard JAV Recordings - http://www.pipeorgancds.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:32:37 -0800   At 02:19 PM 3/30/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Did GW put-out 45's of his playing in the 50's for jukeboxes? <snip>   As a matter of fact, yes! Richard Vaughn did release some of GW's albums in 45 format. Whether there was a true "jukebox" 45 (sans packaging, single disk) is unknown to me. The 45 RPM boxed GW sets are VERY rare = today.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:08:11 -0800   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_85085686= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 07:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0500, you wrote: >To Larry and the List: > >Two years ago I decided to transcribe all of the LP's to CD.     I would love to do this with my 500+ LP collection. What sort of software/hardware is needed to get them transferred?       --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_85085686= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> <font size=3D3>At 07:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0500, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>To Larry and the List:<br> <br> Two years ago I decided to transcribe all of the LP's to CD. </font></blockquote><br> <br> I would love to do this with my 500+ LP collection.&nbsp; What sort of software/hardware is needed to get them<br> transferred?<br> <br> <br> </html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_85085686= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:36:58 -0500   I seem to recall that the recording head on a S-VHS VCR spun faster and the tape was slightly better than ordinary tape (something like chrome vs Metal tape in cassettes) which gave it the better fidelity.I read in Video magazine that you could punch out that hole you were talking about.   Antoni   Bob Scarborough wrote: > > At 07:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >With 78's and old LP's I can't imagine needing "audio" CD quality blank > >CD's. <snip> > > Din't fool yourself. Many well pressed LPs are QUITE good in terms of > fidelity. A lot depends on the playback equipment of the owner, as well = as > his disc handling techniques! I've seen many fine LPs trashed simply by > poor handling and storage. As to the "audio CD" versus CD-R scam, it's > similar to the VHS versus S-VHS tape cassette scam...the S-VHS used the > same tape, but in a "deluxe" cassette that had a notch in it that would > activate a microswitch within the S-VHS VCR. If the VCR didn't "see" = that > notch, video bandwidth was reduced! Of course, the simple solution was = to > cut a notch into all your standard VHS cassettes. Price difference? = $3.95 > versus $15.95. And they say the Japanese are SO honest..... > > dB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:32:13 -0500   Mike Gettelman wrote: As I understand CD tech, the cheaper CD blanks are no different than = the "music" CD blanks. The higher price on music blanks is to cover a royalty = fee which is paid to the recording companies in a rather generic anticipation = that you might infringe on somebody's copyright potential when you record = music. So feel free to use the cheaper blanks unless your conscience will not allow = it. There is absolutely no quality difference.   Cheers and happy recording   Mike   Antoni Scott wrote:   > To Larry and the List: > > Two years ago I decided to transcribe all of the LP's to CD. The CD > recorders today are about half the price they were two years ago and > just as good. Blank CD's are very inexpensive. I have seen them everyday > for 30 cents each and as low as 8 cents each ( with a rebate ). I have > not been able to tell the difference between an "audio" CD at $3.95 each > and the 30 cent one. Maybe with an LP the dynamics are not wide enough > to need "audio" CD's. With 78's and old LP's I can't imagine needing > "audio" CD quality blank CD's. > > I was surprised that I had collected 700 LP's over the 40 years I have > been collecting them. Transcribing two a day will take me two years !!!! > to complete the project. > > Antoni > > Larry wrote: > > > > Arthur and all, I have a old turntable that does 16&1/2, 33&1/3, 45, = and > > 78 rpm. Will not get rid of it; who knows when it might come in handy. > > Certianly am not going to replace all my records with CDs. I would go > > broke! I also have a CD player, of course. > > > > Regards, Larry > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:41:36 -0500     --------------CB0615164FA732587D53CD74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Mike Gettelman wrote:   Hello Bill, You would need to purchase a sound card capable of "capturing" analog signal from your record player/stereo setup, and converting it to digital format. After that, you can simply burn a CD. You will have to have sufficient hard drive space to store everything you want to include on each CD, because you can only burn music CDs in one session without interruption, unlike data CDs which can be burned in multiple sessions provided you do not close them out. <TechTV.com > has a lot to say on the subject if you are willing to dig a bit.   Cheers Mike   Bill Morton wrote:   > At 07:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >> To Larry and the List: >> >> Two years ago I decided to transcribe all of the LP's to CD. > > I would love to do this with my 500+ LP collection. What sort of > software/hardware is needed to get them > transferred? > >   --------------CB0615164FA732587D53CD74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Mike Gettelman wrote: <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hello Bill, <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You would need to purchase a sound card capable of "capturing" analog signal from your record = player/stereo setup, and converting it to digital format. After that, you can simply burn a CD. You will have to have sufficient hard drive space to store = everything you want to include on each CD, because you can only burn music CDs in one session without interruption, unlike data CDs which can be burned in multiple sessions provided you do not close them out. &lt;TechTV.com > has a lot to say on the subject if you are willing to dig a bit. <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike <p>Bill Morton wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font size=3D+0>At 07:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0500, you = wrote:</font> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font size=3D+0>To Larry and the = List:</font> <p><font size=3D+0>Two years ago I decided to transcribe all of the LP's to CD.</font></blockquote>   <p>I would love to do this with my 500+ LP collection.&nbsp; What sort of software/hardware is needed to get them <br>transferred? <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;</blockquote> </html>   --------------CB0615164FA732587D53CD74--    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:06:09 -0600     > Mike Gettelman wrote: > As I understand CD tech, the cheaper CD blanks are no different than the > "music" CD blanks. The higher price on music blanks is to cover a = royalty fee > which is paid to the recording companies in a rather generic = anticipation that > you might infringe on somebody's copyright potential when you record music. So > feel free to use the cheaper blanks unless your conscience will not = allow it. > There is absolutely no quality difference. > This is true IF you are using a computer CD burner. If you are using a stand-alone CD burner (with the exception of two early Philips models - = 870 and first production run 880, which you can trick into thinking you are using an audio blank!) you must use the audio CD blanks, which contain identifying data which the CD recorder looks for before it will accept the blank.   Robert Ehrhardt Shreveport, LA    
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:00:58 EST     --part1_90.124b5303.27f6864a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/30/01 6:32:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, = elmsr@albanyis.com.au writes:     > , I understood that even with an organ in equal temperament the > thirds (tierces) are tuned pure and so are the fifths. If so, your > remark can't be sustained. >   However, when the nazard and tierce are tuned to a note that is "not in = tune" (because of equal temperament) it makes the other two out of tune as well.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_90.124b5303.27f6864a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/30/01 6:32:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, elmsr@albanyis.com.au <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">, I understood = that even with an organ in equal temperament the <BR>thirds (tierces) are tuned pure and so are the fifths. If so, your <BR>remark can't be sustained. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>However, when the nazard and tierce are tuned to a note that is "not = in tune" <BR>(because of equal temperament) it makes the other two out of tune as = well. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_90.124b5303.27f6864a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Infalmmatory Remarks From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:01:56 EST     --part1_93.8f4293a.27f68684_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/30/01 6:34:18 AM !!!First Boot!!!, = elmsr@albanyis.com.au writes:     > Get up off the floor Bruce. You are too old for that. > Bob E. > >   Oh dear! I've fallen and I can't get up!!   heeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeehee= ehe   eeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeh= eee   heeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeehee= ehe   eeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeh= eee   heeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheee...= etc (thunk)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_93.8f4293a.27f68684_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/30/01 6:34:18 AM !!!First Boot!!!, elmsr@albanyis.com.au <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Get up off the = floor Bruce. You are too old for that. <BR>Bob E. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Oh dear! &nbsp;I've fallen and I can't get up!! &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>heeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeehee= eheeehe <BR> <BR>eeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeh= eeeheee <BR> <BR>heeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeehee= eheeehe <BR> <BR>eeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeh= eeeheee <BR> <BR>heeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeeheeehee= e...etc <BR> <BR>&nbsp;(thunk) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_93.8f4293a.27f68684_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:59:18 -0500   Re: GW 45's.   We have several antique and collectable shops around here, and I'll look = for some. If I find any, I'll let the list know.   Rick