PipeChat Digest #1982 - Saturday, March 31, 2001
 
Re: Moller, Moeller, Molar
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Infalmmatory Remarks
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Fw: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "C. Joseph Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com>
RE: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com>
RE: Favorite Service Repertoire -- Please help
  by "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com>
presentation of "The Crucifixion"
  by <CdyVanpool@aol.com>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Tempermental temperaments
  by <Doppelflote8@aol.com>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Tempermental temperaments
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: inch of space/releathering, etc.
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: diacritics (Danish vs German)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Tempermental temperaments
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Favorite Service Repertoire -- Please help
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Moller, Moeller, Molar From: <MickBerg@aol.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:03:36 EST     --part1_76.90e6429.27f72fa8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Although this is not as historically significant as John Speller's Moller, = I have a Klann console at home with a nameplate which reads "M P MOLLER HAGERSTOWN MARYLAND 1926 REBUILT 1967." There is no umlaut. Hope this = helps to confuse the issue :-) Mick Berg.   --part1_76.90e6429.27f72fa8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Although this is not as historically significant as John = Speller's Moller, I <BR>have a Klann console at home with a nameplate which reads "M P MOLLER <BR>HAGERSTOWN MARYLAND 1926 REBUILT 1967." There is no umlaut. Hope this = helps <BR>to confuse the issue :-) <BR>Mick Berg.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_76.90e6429.27f72fa8_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:27:47 +0800   Wrong or not Bob that is the way they are tuned in this part of the world. Bob E. Bob Scarborough wrote: > > At 02:28 PM 3/30/2001 +0800, you wrote: > >Well, Ron, I understood that even with an organ in equal temperament = the > >thirds (tierces) are tuned pure and so are the fifths.<snip> > > Wrong. In ET, the thirds are quite wide indeed, 15.87 cents sharper = than > Pythagorian, and the fifths are narrow, although by a milder amount, = less > than 2 cents. Fourths are "wide", but by even a more mellow amount. > > dB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:35:17 +0800   Sorry Bruce but I don't see it. I finger the keys for our organ tuner, who happens to be my son, and the tierce is tuned in fifths to the fundamental and so is the 12th. It certainly turns out all right. As far as the fourths are concerned I wouodn't know without trying what + or - beat there is. Bob E.    
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:39:24 +0800   I think we are arguing at cross purposes here. Everybody is talking thirds and fifths but the actual interval used in tuning isn't being taken into account. Let's drop it please. Bob E.   s As far as I know, STOPS that represent intervals of thirds and fifths (and their octave equivalents) are tuned pure on just about everything but Hammonds. > > But notes on the keyboard cannot be. If you try to tune pure all the = way around the circle of fifths, you don't end up where you started.    
(back) Subject: Re: Infalmmatory Remarks From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:06:41 -0500     Somehow sounds like Anton LeVey's organ !     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:29:46 +0800 Bob Elms <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> writes: > Get up off the floor Bruce. You are too old for that. > Bob E. > > Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > > > O geez! How could I have missed this. > > > > The manuals would be the > > > > Hoofdwerk and the ClovenHoofdwerk > > > > oh.... this is too much fun > > > heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeh eehee > > > > > heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeh eehee > > > > > heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeh eehee > > > > > heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeh eehee > > > > > heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeh eehee > > > > heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee... etc > > > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, > Bohawow!" > > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Fw: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "C. Joseph Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:50:03 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Joseph Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )     > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net> > > What is a good pro-level card? > > If you go to the computer shacks, Creative Labs has the top of the = line   For what it's worth--I use a Prodif 24 sound card from SEK'D--about = $500.00 if I remember. I can dump DAT tapes straight to the hard drive to work = with them. For mastering--I use Steinberg Wavelab with some Sonic Foundry plug-ins   C. Joseph Nichols http://www.nicholsandsimpson.com.     >    
(back) Subject: RE: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:49:37 -0800   Our one of our local independent computer stores has recommended the Soundblaster platinum with the audio bay. As advertised, the sound card itself is state of the art and it has an optional board that mounts in a full size drive bay which provides inputs and outputs, including standard RCA jacks for your stereo input.   The audio unit also comes with the software required to digitize analog input.   The price I was quoted was about $200 for the pair. I haven't bought the card yet since I would need a new computer to put it in. Jon     Brent Johnson asked If this isn't too far off topic: What is a good pro-level card? If you go to the computer shacks, Creative Labs has the top of the line equipment, with no-name clones priced slightly lower. If one wants to rip some vinyl, what's the best kind of sound hardware to get? The seemingly best pro alternatives I've seen start at about $400. Is = there another option?    
(back) Subject: RE: Favorite Service Repertoire -- Please help From: "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:09:53 -0800   Some of the easy (what I can handle with minimum practice) music I have found useful over the years is s follows:   Bach, 8 Little Preludes and Fugues   The Treasury of Early Organ Music, Edited by E Power Biggs, Mercury Music Corp has a lot of good stuff in it. I have used this volume extensively. My favorites would be the Buxtehude, Jig Fugue, and Nun Bitten Wir chorale Daquin, Swiss Noel, with Variations Clerambault, Trumpet is Dialogue   The 80 Chorale Preludes, Edited by Keller, Edition Peters, I just wish I knew how to cross reference th German Titles to the tune names is American Hymnals   There is a four volume set, Old English Organ Music for Manuals, Edited by C. H. Trevor which has lots of fun stuff.   Dr. Darryl Miller asked   The local AGO dean called and asked for favorite service repertoire for a list he is publishing at our next Chapter meeting concerning music for services, etc.   So . . . if you will, pleast 1-6 service pieces which you know (or at = least think) are in print. Pleast list the real title (translation would be helpful), composer and arranger/editor, publisher and ordering = information.      
(back) Subject: presentation of "The Crucifixion" From: <CdyVanpool@aol.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:27:04 EST   Happy Saturday !   I wish to invite, those of you that live close enough, to the Texhoma = Chapter of AGO 's presentation of : "The Crucifixion" by John Stainer First United Methodist Church 10th Street (downtown) Wichita Falls, Texas March 31,2001 (commemorating the 100th year of Stainer's death) 6:00 pm   about a 100 voice massed choir   Directors: Kristen Gossett Karen Lamberth Jeanette Bail Jay Terpstra   Organists : Dr. Kiyo Watanabe Chemi Watanabe Van Vanpool Shirley Poole Jim Quashnock   Organ : 4/ 87 AEolian-Skinner (1936)   Van Vanpool, organist FUMC Bowie, Texas  
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:43:38 -0500   To Mike Gettelman and the List:   Thank you for your insightful commentary regarding the quality difference between computer blank CD's and "optimized audio CD's". I did not find ANY difference even under the greatest scrutiny with my system. I copied CD's for my own use ( i.e. a backup) in my car, etc. where I was cautious about damaging the original. I lucked out when I bought my CD recorder two years ago ( an Otari) . It records on ANY blank CD, 8 cents or $7.99. Interesting !!!! I believe Mr. Gettleman is right on the money with his assessment.   The greedy recording industry "scam" is becoming more and more obvious. I wouldn't mind paying a little money per blank CD for a professional recording artist's royalty but the obscene Puff Daddy, Dr. Dre rapper type gets the majority of the royalty profits spewing his filth and violence over the airways , corroding and poisoning everything that is normal and decent.   Antoni  
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:46:42 -0500   To the List:   I purchased an Otari two years ago. There are many brands out there that do the same thing. Make sure it records on "ANY" blank CD before you buy it, not just "audio optimized" CD's. Audio Optimized means that you fell into their trap and are stuck forever paying high prices for the same cheap CD's.   Antoni Bill Morton wrote: > > At 07:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > To Larry and the List: > > > > Two years ago I decided to transcribe all of the LP's to CD. > > I would love to do this with my 500+ LP collection. What sort of > software/hardware is needed to get them > transferred?  
(back) Subject: Tempermental temperaments From: <Doppelflote8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:41:33 EST     --part1_e0.127ee76a.27f762bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Are we referring to the "tierces" as intervals of major 3rds, or the independent mutation rank found at 6 2/5, 3 1/5 and 1 3/5?   The major thirds in a equal tempered scale are tuned "wide" and the beats = get progressively faster. Although we do not set bearings with the thirds in organ work ( i did learn to do that for piano work) the result should be the same. Equal Tempered 5ths are narrow, 4ths are wide. The only interval that is "beatless" is the octave.   Just food for thought..... Alan     --part1_e0.127ee76a.27f762bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial Black" LANG=3D"0">Are we = referring to the "tierces" as intervals of major 3rds, or the <BR>independent mutation rank found at 6 2/5, 3 1/5 and 1 3/5? <BR> <BR>The major thirds in a equal tempered scale are tuned "wide" and the = beats get <BR>progressively faster. &nbsp;Although we do not set bearings with the = thirds in <BR>organ work ( i did learn to do that for piano work) <BR>the result should be the same. &nbsp;Equal Tempered 5ths are narrow, = 4ths are <BR>wide. &nbsp;The only interval that is "beatless" is the octave. <BR> <BR>Just food for thought..... <BR>Alan <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_e0.127ee76a.27f762bd_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:41:35 EST   Hi Bob Elms:   Now I understand where you are coming from, but I don't mean Twelfths and Tierces. What I'm talking about is draw a Principal 8' and play intervals in the middle of the keyboard. I'm refering to out of tune intervals not stops in Equal. Once you really hear it, and compare it to well temper the game is over. The premise that it's necessary to be ABLE to play in all keys becomes moot. The practice of setting church music really doesn't encompass all keys but those that are comfortable to sing to. These comfortable keys seem to coincide favorably with those favored by well temper. My point: Why not have the organ tuned closer to Just Intonation practices, and 95% of all organ music is also writen in those keys. The other 5% can easily be transposed a half step to fit. My other point, Who in their right mind would like to sight read five or more flats or more than 5 sharps on a regular basis. Hymnals and service music and the great majority of the suitable organ liturature also reflect this reservation. Orchestras and choirs don't sing or play in Equal because it's too harsh, but perform in Just Intonation.   Bach wanted to play in all keys as an exercise, but never tuned his Clavichord or Harpsichord to Equal. The 48 as it states is the well = tempered clavichord. He retuned to a Just Intonation of the key then being favored. My point is the Equal Temperment used for organ music is very highly defective and out of tune in all keys. The keys required for = general use don't reflect the necessity for Equal Temperment, we've just come to accept it as a given. My point is that it just doesn't HAVE to BE either = in theory or in practice.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:03:34 -0800   At 09:27 PM 3/31/2001 +0800, you wrote: >Wrong or not Bob that is the way they are tuned in this part of the >world. <snip>   If this is so, Australian organs are tune to Pythagorian!! God help you should you try to play anything in other than one "mode"!   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:05:30 -0800   At 09:35 PM 3/31/2001 +0800, you wrote: >As far as the fourths are concerned I wouodn't know without trying what + = or - >beat there is.<snip>   In ET, fifths are tuned to a faster "beat" than fourths when "laying the bearings". There is no way you can have Equal Temperament with "perfect fifths", period. Research this and get back to us.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Tempermental temperaments From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:11:50 -0800   At 11:41 AM 3/31/2001 -0500, Doppelfl=F6te wrote: >The major thirds in a equal tempered scale are tuned "wide" and the beats= get >progressively faster.<snip>   Thanks for stating the obvious, which I neglected to do. It is quite=20 possible, after reviewing "t'other BawB"'s posts, that he does indeed mean= =20 tuning of mutations, which, of course, it done to the true harmonic=20 series. However, I've "corrected" some real messes, where people with no=20 concept of temperament start banging on things. Organs tuned with "perfect= =20 fifths" quickly show the reason why mathematical temperaments were devised= =20 in the first place!   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: inch of space/releathering, etc. From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:32:37 EST     --part1_e8.12aecb1c.27f76eb5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/31/01 3:45:42 AM !!!First Boot!!!, = desertbob@rglobal.net writes:     > What "union problems"?? This is the real world, not some dank church! = If > there are jurisdictional issues, you work them out, and that's that! = Don't > blame unions for your lack of "at-will" access to a concert hall = instrument > ... it's the way things work! Learn the lay of the land and work with = it. > >   Excuse me. But when we have to spend $120 to have the console plugged in = and rolled to the stage, that is not MY lack of "at-will" access. In = addition, they don't work on Saturday morning, and Monday is their day off.   I'm all for people being justly compensated for work, but to have them be = the ONLY people who can do the simplest thing, it's just a bit trying from = where I stand.   Not to mention the console cannot be put on the stage when it is set up = for orchestra rehearsals, and they prefer to leave the set-up in place, which makes sense.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_e8.12aecb1c.27f76eb5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/31/01 3:45:42 AM !!!First Boot!!!, desertbob@rglobal.net <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What "union = problems"?? &nbsp;This is the real world, not some dank church! &nbsp;If <BR>there are jurisdictional issues, you work them out, and that's that! = &nbsp;Don't <BR>blame unions for your lack of "at-will" access to a concert hall = instrument <BR>... it's the way things work! &nbsp;Learn the lay of the land and work = with it. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Excuse me. &nbsp;But when we have to spend $120 to have the console = plugged in and <BR>rolled to the stage, that is not MY lack of "at-will" access. = &nbsp;&nbsp;In addition, <BR>they don't work on Saturday morning, and Monday is their day off. = &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>I'm all for people being justly compensated for work, but to have them = be the <BR>ONLY people who can do the simplest thing, it's just a bit trying from = where <BR>I stand. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;Not to mention the console cannot be put on the stage when it = is set up for <BR>orchestra rehearsals, and they prefer to leave the set-up in place, = which <BR>makes sense. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_e8.12aecb1c.27f76eb5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: diacritics (Danish vs German) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:36:16 EST     --part1_7d.131de69e.27f76f90_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/31/01 5:18:14 AM !!!First Boot!!!, pnst@earthlink.net =   writes:     > A subscriber to another organ list pronounces his last name, spelled > "Moeller", as "MELL-er". > >   An unfortunate affectation.. Much like pronouncing it "mwuhller". It = is using sounds not common to English pronunciation. No umlauts, no = strange sounds. ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_7d.131de69e.27f76f90_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/31/01 5:18:14 AM !!!First Boot!!!, pnst@earthlink.net <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A subscriber to = another organ list pronounces his last name, spelled <BR>"Moeller", as "MELL-er". <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>An unfortunate affectation.. &nbsp;Much like pronouncing it = "mwuhller". &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is <BR>using sounds not common to English pronunciation. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;No = umlauts, no strange <BR>sounds. &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7d.131de69e.27f76f90_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Tempermental temperaments From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:44:51 -0500   Hey guys let's be careful, this is getting towards food fight proportions again and is an unwinnable war. My delete key is wearing down.   Cheers, Mack    
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:50:12 EST     --part1_d6.473fe1e.27f772d4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/31/01 1:44:18 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = elmsr@albanyis.com.au writes:     > I think we are arguing at cross purposes here. Everybody is talking > thirds and fifths but the actual interval used in tuning isn't being > taken into account.   'splain, please!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_d6.473fe1e.27f772d4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/31/01 1:44:18 PM !!!First Boot!!!, elmsr@albanyis.com.au <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I think we are = arguing at cross purposes here. Everybody is talking <BR>thirds and fifths but the actual interval used in tuning isn't being <BR>taken into account. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>'splain, please! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d6.473fe1e.27f772d4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Favorite Service Repertoire -- Please help From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:53:48 EST     --part1_8d.48d8106.27f773ac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/31/01 3:14:18 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = jroussos@san.rr.com writes:     > > Bach, 8 Little Preludes and Fugues > > The Treasury of Early Organ Music, Edited by E Power Biggs, Mercury = Music > Corp has a lot of good stuff in it. I have used this volume = extensively. > My favorites would be the Buxtehude, Jig Fugue, and Nun Bitten Wir = chorale > Daquin, Swiss Noel, with Variations > Clerambault, Trumpet is Dialogue > > The 80 Chorale Preludes, Edited by Keller, Edition Peters, I just wish I > knew how to cross reference th German Titles to the tune names is = American > Hymnals > > There is a four volume set, Old English Organ Music for Manuals, Edited = by > C. H. Trevor which has lots of fun stuff. > >   This is probably the best and most comprehensive "six" that I've seen. = Toss in Wedding Music-Part I from Concordia, and "The Organ in Church" by Frank =   Asper, and you pretty much have something for every Sunday.   I have all of the above books and use them often just for pleasure!!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_8d.48d8106.27f773ac_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 3/31/01 3:14:18 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jroussos@san.rr.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <BR>Bach, 8 Little Preludes and Fugues <BR> <BR>The Treasury of Early Organ Music, Edited by E Power Biggs, Mercury = Music <BR>Corp has a lot of good stuff in it. &nbsp;I have used this volume = extensively. <BR>My favorites would be the Buxtehude, Jig Fugue, and Nun Bitten Wir = chorale <BR>Daquin, Swiss Noel, with Variations <BR>Clerambault, Trumpet is Dialogue <BR> <BR>The 80 Chorale Preludes, Edited by Keller, Edition Peters, I just wish = I <BR>knew how to cross reference th German Titles to the tune names is = American <BR>Hymnals <BR> <BR>There is a four volume set, Old English Organ Music for Manuals, = Edited by <BR>C. H. Trevor which has lots of fun stuff. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>This is probably the best and most comprehensive "six" that I've seen. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Toss <BR>in Wedding Music-Part I from Concordia, and "The Organ in Church" by = Frank <BR>Asper, and you pretty much have something for every Sunday. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>I have all of the above books and use them often just for pleasure!! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8d.48d8106.27f773ac_boundary--