PipeChat Digest #2085 - Saturday, May 5, 2001
 
May Fellowship Day (xpost)
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Carpeting the choir room...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Rebuttal to the "pipes last longer" falsehood
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Rebuttal to the Rebuttal to the rebuttal
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Carpeting the choir room...
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Rebuttal to the Rebuttal to the rebuttal
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Carpeting the choir room...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: flamboyant gift for myself
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
organ specifications
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Montreal Casavant
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: organ specifications
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: organ specifications
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Montreal Casavant
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Elgar music search
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: Elgar music search
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Bob Scarborough, caster of roses.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: what's an organist to DO? (grin)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Rhosymedre...
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: May Fellowship Day (xpost) From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:50:24 EDT     --part1_86.a31fc8a.2825f9d0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I was just wondering if any of you on either of these lists participated = in May Fellowship Day yesterday (Friday, May 4), sponsored by Church Women United?   The topic of the service was racism, so we sang quite a few ethnic hymns. =   Sorry I didn't bring the bulletin home, so I can post them.   I really enjoyed this service, and playing for it. I found myself doing = what I think I was supposed to do, thinking about my own sensibilities in the = area of racism.   Peace to you. Neil Brown FUMC Toms River NJ USA   --part1_86.a31fc8a.2825f9d0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I was just wondering if = any of you on either of these lists participated in <BR>May Fellowship Day yesterday (Friday, May 4), sponsored by Church = Women <BR>United? <BR> <BR>The topic of the service was racism, so we sang quite a few ethnic = hymns. &nbsp; <BR>Sorry I didn't bring the bulletin home, so I can post them. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>I really enjoyed this service, and playing for it. &nbsp;I found = myself doing what <BR>I think I was supposed to do, thinking about my own sensibilities in = the area <BR>of racism. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Peace to you. <BR>Neil Brown <BR>FUMC Toms River NJ USA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_86.a31fc8a.2825f9d0_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Carpeting the choir room... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:51:03 EDT     --part1_53.5a96462.2825f9f7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/5/01 9:13:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk writes:     > ... Our vestry space is very small and cramped too - try robing between = 30 > and 40 choristers in a 12 foot square room (actually the base of the = tower) > together will flower arrangers, servers, and lost congregation...   In one parish I served which had only a small robing room, the choristers = met in the choir stalls 30 minutes before service time. Their folder and = their vestments were waiting for them in the stalls. It took less time for me = to move them than it did for the choristers to crawl over each other to find them.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_53.5a96462.2825f9f7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/5/01 9:13:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">... &nbsp;Our = vestry space is very small and cramped too - try robing between 30 <BR>and 40 choristers in a 12 foot square room (actually the base of the = tower) <BR>together will flower arrangers, servers, and lost = congregation...</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>In one parish I served which had only a small robing room, the = choristers met <BR>in the choir stalls 30 minutes before service time. &nbsp;&nbsp;Their = folder and their <BR>vestments were waiting for them in the stalls. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It = took less time for me to <BR>move them than it did for the choristers to crawl over each other to = find <BR>them. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_53.5a96462.2825f9f7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Rebuttal to the "pipes last longer" falsehood From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:51:32 EDT     --part1_72.a5840ec.2825fa14_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/5/01 8:40:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Wurlibird1@aol.com writes:     > On to more productive things!! Bruce, how delightful. You can tee = again. > :) > >   Thanks! It just takes incentive. All this talk of electrodigitoids = really loosens things up!!! teeheeheehee   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_72.a5840ec.2825fa14_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/5/01 8:40:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>Wurlibird1@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">On to more = productive things!! &nbsp;Bruce, how delightful. &nbsp;You can tee again. = &nbsp; <BR>:) <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Thanks! &nbsp;&nbsp;It just takes incentive. &nbsp;&nbsp;All this talk = of electrodigitoids really <BR>loosens things up!!! &nbsp;teeheeheehee <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_72.a5840ec.2825fa14_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Rebuttal to the Rebuttal to the rebuttal From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:51:27 EDT     --part1_89.63bac33.2825fa0f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/5/01 8:17:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, = jakorns@home.com writes:     >   And 8-tracks have been obsolete for HOW long???   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_89.63bac33.2825fa0f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/5/01 8:17:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jakorns@home.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. I'ts the next = best thing to an 8 track!(grin)</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>And 8-tracks have been obsolete for HOW long??? <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_89.63bac33.2825fa0f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Carpeting the choir room... From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:54:10 EDT     --part1_70.a5c2c11.2825fab2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   30 or 40 choristers squished into a 12-foot-square room is a problem!! = But it's a good one.   One solution: You could ask your powers-that-be to erect a portable = trailer in the courtyard or cloister. You know, those metal pre-fabricated = classroom trailers? I'm sure it would look just lovely next to your 1000-year-old building <grin>.   Peace to you all. Neil Brown Toms River, New Jersey, USA   --part1_70.a5c2c11.2825fab2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>30 or 40 choristers = squished into a 12-foot-square room is a problem!! &nbsp;But <BR>it's a good one. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>One solution: &nbsp;You could ask your powers-that-be to erect a = portable trailer <BR>in the courtyard or cloister. &nbsp;You know, those metal = pre-fabricated classroom <BR>trailers? &nbsp;I'm sure it would look just lovely next to your = 1000-year-old <BR>building &lt;grin&gt;. <BR> <BR>Peace to you all. <BR>Neil Brown <BR>Toms River, New Jersey, USA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_70.a5c2c11.2825fab2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Rebuttal to the Rebuttal to the rebuttal From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:14:52 EDT     --part1_102.2aff62d.2825ff8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/5/01 11:53:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:     > Shhhh! Don't TALK about that! Some pastor might be reading this list = and > think it's a viable option!!! > >   I was once at a Mass during which the priest crossed himself and accident turned on the "system" for the next hymn. He pounded and pounded but couldn't find the button to shut it off. We just had to wait out the = hymn.. It was too funny. ..... and much deserved! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_102.2aff62d.2825ff8c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/5/01 11:53:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>desertbob@rglobal.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Shhhh! &nbsp;Don't = TALK about that! &nbsp;Some pastor might be reading this list and <BR>think it's a viable option!!! <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I was once at a Mass during which the priest crossed himself and = accident <BR>turned on the "system" for the next hymn. &nbsp;He pounded and pounded = but <BR>couldn't find the button to shut it off. &nbsp;&nbsp;We just had to = wait out the hymn.. <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It was too funny. <BR>.... and much deserved! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_102.2aff62d.2825ff8c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Carpeting the choir room... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:22:47 EDT     --part1_20.1608bef2.28260167_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/5/01 5:40:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@cs.com writes:     > In my present choir room, we had linoleum until 1 year ago. The noise = was > so > harrowing. And with it being essentially a closed-in balcony, = everything > we > did could be heard in the sanctuary. So, I had carpet installed last = year > to > reduce both these problems. The choir room in our church is the ONLY > upstairs in the entire facility. > >   My preference would have been to install carpeting or a better acoustical material on the wall adjacent to the sanctuary, thus allowing sound to = travel among the singers but be absorbed by the wall preventing a live room but still leaving it possible to hear well.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_20.1608bef2.28260167_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/5/01 5:40:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>Innkawgneeto@cs.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In my present = choir room, we had linoleum until 1 year ago. &nbsp;The noise was <BR>so <BR>harrowing. &nbsp;And with it being essentially a closed-in balcony, = everything <BR>we <BR>did could be heard in the sanctuary. &nbsp;So, I had carpet installed = last year <BR>to <BR>reduce both these problems. &nbsp;The choir room in our church is the = ONLY <BR>upstairs in the entire facility. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>My preference would have been to install carpeting or a better = acoustical <BR>material on the wall adjacent to the sanctuary, thus allowing sound to = travel <BR>among the singers but be absorbed by the wall preventing a live room = but <BR>still leaving it possible to hear well. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_20.1608bef2.28260167_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: flamboyant gift for myself From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:39:52 -0400   What a find! Is there a possibility of publishing the stop list?   Any big church or auditorium for sale in your area? Just think, you might have the "Carlo Pietroniro Concert Hall" WITH a huge pipe organ. You = would be one step ahead of Carnegie Hall! :-)   Have fun with the Casavant....   Bonnie Beth   Bonnie Beth Derby orge@dreamscape.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlo Pietroniro <organist@total.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: Re: flamboyant gift for myself     > this organ MUST be put into a church, or an auditorium. The church it's = in > right now is HUGE, seats 2000 people........ > > Carlo      
(back) Subject: organ specifications From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:38:56 -0400   here is the stop list for the organ I bought. 1924 Casavant Fr=E8res Lt=E9e.   GRAND ORGUE Montre 16 Montre 8 Flute Harmonique 8 Flute a Cheminee 8 Prestant 4 Flute Ouverte 4 Nazard 2 2/3 Doublette 2 Flute a Bec 2 Tierce 1 3/5 Fourniture IV Contre Trompette 16 Trompette 8 Clairon 4 G.O. Aigue G.O. Grave   RECIT Contre Gambe 16 Bourdon Doux 16 Montrea 8 Bourdon 8 Viole de Gambe 8 Viole Celeste 8 Octave 4 Flute a Fuseau 4 Nazard 2 2/3 Quarte de Nazard 2 Tierce 1 3/5 Plein Jeu V Cymbale III Contre Basson 16 Trompette 8 Hautbois 8 Voix Humaine 8 Clairon 4 Tremulant RECIT Aigue RECIT Grave   POSITIF Bourdon 16 Montre 8 Gedeckt 8 Viola Pomposa 8 Prestant 4 Rohrpfeife 4 Sesquialtera II Doublette 2 Zauberflote 2 Larigot 1 1/3 Piccolo 1 Petite Fourniture II Neuvieme 8/9 Rankette 16 Tuba Mirabilis 8 Rohrschalmei 4 Tremulant POSITIF Aigue POSITIF Grave   PEDALE Prestant 32 Flute Ouverte 16 Montre 16 Violone 16 Soubasse 16 Montre 8 Bourdon 8 Violoncelle 8 Basse de Choral 4 Flute Cantique 4 Fourniture V Contre Bombarde 32 Bombarde 16 Contre Trompette 16 Trompette 8 Clairon 4   Swell to Pedal 8 & 4 Choir to Pedal 8 & 4 Great to Pedal 8 & 4   Swell to Great 16 & 8 & 4 Choir to Great 16 & 8 & 4   Swell to Choir 16 & 8 & 4          
(back) Subject: Montreal Casavant From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:21:09 -0400   Carlo, for advice contact John Bishop at the Organ Clearing House, USA john@organclearinghouse.com And/or the Casavant-Freres Company in Ste. Hyacinthe. They may be able to help you. I have this organ listed as 1920 Opus 853, and it should be a valuable instrument worth saving, congratulations on your effort. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: organ specifications From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 21:23:28 -0500   Whoa! That's a LOT of organ!!! Congrats, Carlo!   Paul   Carlo Pietroniro wrote: >=20 > here is the stop list for the organ I bought. > 1924 Casavant Fr=E8res Lt=E9e. >=20 > GRAND ORGUE > Montre 16 > Montre 8 > Flute Harmonique 8 > Flute a Cheminee 8 > Prestant 4 > Flute Ouverte 4 > Nazard 2 2/3 > Doublette 2 > Flute a Bec 2 > Tierce 1 3/5 > Fourniture IV > Contre Trompette 16 > Trompette 8 > Clairon 4 > G.O. Aigue > G.O. Grave >=20 > RECIT > Contre Gambe 16 > Bourdon Doux 16 > Montrea 8 > Bourdon 8 > Viole de Gambe 8 > Viole Celeste 8 > Octave 4 > Flute a Fuseau 4 > Nazard 2 2/3 > Quarte de Nazard 2 > Tierce 1 3/5 > Plein Jeu V > Cymbale III > Contre Basson 16 > Trompette 8 > Hautbois 8 > Voix Humaine 8 > Clairon 4 > Tremulant > RECIT Aigue > RECIT Grave >=20 > POSITIF > Bourdon 16 > Montre 8 > Gedeckt 8 > Viola Pomposa 8 > Prestant 4 > Rohrpfeife 4 > Sesquialtera II > Doublette 2 > Zauberflote 2 > Larigot 1 1/3 > Piccolo 1 > Petite Fourniture II > Neuvieme 8/9 > Rankette 16 > Tuba Mirabilis 8 > Rohrschalmei 4 > Tremulant > POSITIF Aigue > POSITIF Grave >=20 > PEDALE > Prestant 32 > Flute Ouverte 16 > Montre 16 > Violone 16 > Soubasse 16 > Montre 8 > Bourdon 8 > Violoncelle 8 > Basse de Choral 4 > Flute Cantique 4 > Fourniture V > Contre Bombarde 32 > Bombarde 16 > Contre Trompette 16 > Trompette 8 > Clairon 4 >=20 > Swell to Pedal 8 & 4 > Choir to Pedal 8 & 4 > Great to Pedal 8 & 4 >=20 > Swell to Great 16 & 8 & 4 > Choir to Great 16 & 8 & 4 >=20 > Swell to Choir 16 & 8 & 4  
(back) Subject: Re: organ specifications From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:25:27 -0400   Judy had the right numbers for this instrument............. the ones I had weren't correct.   The church is St. Augustin Of Canterbury, located on Cote St. Antoine street, in NDG, Montreal. It's a HUGE church...........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Montreal Casavant From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:27:14 -0400   Judy...........do you have opus numbers for the following churches?   all in Montreal   St. Ann's St. Gabriel's St. Anthony of Padua St. Charles    
(back) Subject: Elgar music search From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:41:03 EDT     --part1_cb.10b46097.282613bf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Does anyone know the location (or if it is even printed) of where I could purchase Elgar's Pomp & Circumstance No. 4 in G Major? I have just = recently become more infatuated with this one rather than the "graduation march" = that is always used. Thanks!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA   --part1_cb.10b46097.282613bf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Does anyone know the = location (or if it is even printed) of where I could <BR>purchase Elgar's Pomp &amp; Circumstance No. 4 in G Major? &nbsp;I = have just recently <BR>become more infatuated with this one rather than the "graduation = march" that <BR>is always used. <BR>Thanks! <BR> <BR>Justin Karch <BR>Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS <BR>Rome, GA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_cb.10b46097.282613bf_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Elgar music search From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:41:25 -0400   Boosey & Hawks............   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Bob Scarborough, caster of roses. From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 19:24:24 -0700   At 19:25 5/5/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Once again you have maligned Rodgers....<snip>   What the hell are you talking about???   >Isn't it about time you tell us how you really feel about the company and= =20 >get it off your chest?<snip>   ROC was the catalyst that propelled Markowitz into the Rockwell "music=20 computer" project. ROC's products were really cutting into Allen sales,=20 based on quality, both of hardware and tonality. So the had a little=20 trouble with rattly pedalboards here and there...so what?? I remember=20 M=F8llers of the same period had the same problem.   >Seriously, what is it with you and Rodgers? We would like to know. You=20 >have said the decline of the company began when they didn't go digital in= =20 >1971.<snip>   I never said that, and quit putting words in my mouth. The FACT is that=20 ROC ran AROUND Allen on sales after the introduction of the MOS-1 organs in= =20 1971. The Rodgers analog models sounded arguably BETTER than those early=20 MOS models, and for quite some time! ROC sales in the '70s were quite=20 good, indeed. Problems for ROC didn't appear until much, much later.   >"Declining companies" don't sell $20 million a year when the only other=20 >manufacturer of consequence sells only $28 million.<snip>   I'll argue the bottom line numbers there, but why bother. There ARE=20 quality problems with the latest Rodgers products, this is fact, as has=20 been reported and groused about by certain RODGERS DEALERS. Allen's=20 Rennaissance Line is, for a fact, giving Rodgers fits. This isn't to say=20 that ROC is now producing "junk" product; they're not. But, from what I=20 personally have seen and heard, Allen's got the drop on them as far as=20 "bang for buck" right now, and Roland's obviously more interesting in=20 putting most of their R&D money into synths and other competitive pop music= =20 product lines. However, problems with speaker systems that rattle apart=20 under normal use don't speak well for the marque, as things like this (and= =20 other issues) would have NEVER happened in the Jenkins days, to say the= least.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: what's an organist to DO? (grin) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 19:38:00 -0700   At 12:31 5/5/2001 -0700, BuuD-by-the-BeacH wrote: >It's really too bad that Wicks (for the most part) couldn't seem to=20 >combine mechanical reliability with good voicing ... I've played MANY=20 >Wicks organs from the 1920s, particularly in RC churches, that hadn't seen= =20 >an organ tech since they were installed (grin) ... for the most part,=20 >everything still worked, and they were in reasonable tune. But the SOUND=20 >... oh my!<snip>   Oh, so true. EM action, even Wicks' earlier "DE=AE" line, has proven for= all=20 time that EM is superior to EP in reliability. Now, with more R&D spent by= =20 other parties as well, the old "clix and tix" of the original "DE=AE" are=20 history, also. Wicks' tendency toward...uh..."debatable" pipework is still= =20 haunting them, however! I've played some old Wicks, reliable as they may=20 have been, where the diapason had a very "bellowing" characteristic down in= =20 the lower registers, almost humorous in nature! Swapping of pipework fixes= =20 the problem every time, so SOMETHING ain't right in the pipe shop over=20 there. And those REEDS...yipes!   >Somebody should make a point of building an organ with electro-mechanical= =20 >chests that's entirely STRAIGHT, without unit stops and variable scaling,= =20 >and with PROPER voicing and scaling ...<snip>   On an organ whose purchaser/rebuilder/whatever can AFFORD straight ranks=20 and nothing else, great. However, the beauty of EM over EP/pitman is its=20 inherent flexibility. An EM chest is an EM chest. It can be wired any way= =20 you WANT it...unit, duplexed, straight...whatever, all at the relay, if one= =20 is installed. Try THAT on a pitman outfit!   >I agree that the difference in speech characteristics between a GOOD e/m=20 >chest and a slider chest are detectable only to HIGHLY-trained ears. I=20 >WOULD debate as to which is the more long-lived, particularly if e/m=20 >rather than e/p pulldowns are used on the slider chests.<snip>   Forget sliders...more medieval technology that's noisy and wasteful. All=20 it takes to make EM chest "speak" well is to put some SPACE between the=20 magnet and the toe of the pipe! That's IT! Why sacrifice flexibility in=20 the long term for some leaky, banging contraption from the 1500s?   >MOST of the horror stories that the older generation of organ techs tell=20 >about slider chests are based either on old organs that have been abused=20 >and subjected to leaky roofs, etc., or early Organ Reform Movement organs= =20 >(particularly from Europe), where the builders didn't realize that=20 >American churches with central air and heat require ABSOLUTELY stable=20 >kiln-dried lumber for the chests that is impervious to changes in=20 >temperature and humidity.<snip>   There's NO NEED for such delicate, fussy, leaky tripe with EM= action...period.   >I corresponded with the British counterpart to OCH, and they advised=20 >AGAINST Britain-to-U.S. transplants for the same reason ... the standard=20 >in British churches is 60 degrees F., with constant HIGH humidity ... old= =20 >British organs moved from that environment to hot (and cold) DRY U.S.=20 >churches, with seasonal temperature variations approaching 100 degrees F.= =20 >in some parts of the country,simply disintegrate.<snip>   See?? ANOTHER unreliable, fussy, delicate technology that has seen its=20 day! Plus, there's the issue of trackers' carillon-like touch and the=20 onset of Carpel Tunnel Syndrome to deal with! I once played a Flentrop,=20 after which I had cocktails with the school carilloneur, and told him "I=20 think I should play that thing like you play your bells...mash it with my=20 fists!"   >A question that's never been answered to my satisfaction: how much space=20 >per rank does a slider chest require as compared to e/m or e/p? Is the=20 >space saved with slider chests significant?<snip>   No, why would it be? It just simply ADDS more stuff that is NOT=20 NECESSARY! Why do you need sliders with EM? Gimmie one GOOD=20 reason.... For the record, EM saves more chest space than ANY= action...period.   DeserTBawB-by-the-Joshua-Tree, nursing a sunburn today.    
(back) Subject: Re: Rhosymedre... From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 19:44:41 -0700   At 15:30 5/5/2001 -0500, you wrote: >What's the accepted pronunciation of "Rhosymedre?"<snip>   Well, I've always mangled it as "ROZE-uh-med-RAY", but who am I to ask? I =   pronounced that Anglican national anthem, Hyfrydol, as "HIGH-fry-doll", until some welsh cleric roundly bopped me for doing so...it's "HUH-fruh-dahl"! Welsh...go figure!   dB