PipeChat Digest #2102 - Tuesday, May 15, 2001
 
Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Re: S. Wayne Foster recital
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there
  by "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net>
RE: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: S. Wayne Foster recital
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Meyerson Stoplist [WAS Re: S. Wayne Foster recital]
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Reger, Liszt
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Reger, Liszt
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
RE: Reger, Liszt
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 15 May 2001 09:04:32 -0700   I just read Paul Swank's suggestion, which sounds even better. Try that = first.   Dick      
(back) Subject: Re: S. Wayne Foster recital From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:08:52 EDT     --part1_ae.14f5d249.2832ae94_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/14/01 9:09:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rredman@imagin.net writes:     > He demonstrated the famous power of the organ several times, and wowed = the > audience with his interpretation of the Widor Toccata, for which he > received a standing ovation.   Can you be more specific about what he did that was different/unique? Much appreciated.   I've always thought it important, and have had this confirmed by some attending, that it is interesting to include the organ stoplist and = builder. In this context, I try to highlight some of the stops verbally to help acquaint the listeners with the instrument.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_ae.14f5d249.2832ae94_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/14/01 9:09:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>rredman@imagin.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">He demonstrated = the famous power of the organ several times, and wowed the <BR>audience with his interpretation of the Widor Toccata, for which he <BR>received a standing ovation. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Can you be more specific about what he did that was different/unique? <BR>Much appreciated. <BR> <BR>I've always thought it important, and have had this confirmed by some <BR>attending, that it is interesting to include the organ stoplist and = builder. &nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;In this &nbsp;context, I try to highlight some of the stops = verbally to help <BR>acquaint the listeners with the instrument. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ae.14f5d249.2832ae94_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 15 May 2001 09:26:26 -0700   On Tue, 15 May 2001, support@opensystemsorgans.com wrote:   > > I just read Paul Swank's suggestion, which sounds even better. Try that = first. > Oops, sorry list. That was supposed to be private, like the message it = was referring to. That makes my average .500. Hope I do better at the = console today!   Dick      
(back) Subject: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:44:54 EDT     --part1_3e.bbfbe9d.2832c516_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Recently on one of these lists someone asked about the music of Max Reger. = There is a wonderful article in the current issure of Choir and Organ, entitled Chromatic Fantasies. Christoper Nickol beings by saying, "It = looks like music, it sounds ilke music, it might even taste like music; yet it remains stubbornly, not music..." I highly recommend not only the = article, but the journal on a regular basis as well.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_3e.bbfbe9d.2832c516_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Recently on one of = these lists someone asked about the music of Max Reger. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>There is a wonderful article in the current issure of Choir and Organ, =   <BR>entitled Chromatic Fantasies. &nbsp;&nbsp;Christoper Nickol beings by = saying, "It looks <BR>like music, it sounds ilke music, it might even taste like music; yet = it <BR>remains stubbornly, not music..." &nbsp;&nbsp;I highly recommend not = only the article, <BR>but the journal on a regular basis as well. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_3e.bbfbe9d.2832c516_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:01:22 EDT     --part1_78.14c26995.2832c8f2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/15/01 9:27:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, support@opensystemsorgans.com writes:     > Oops, sorry list. That was supposed to be private, like the message it = was > referring to. That makes my average .500. Hope I do better at the = console > today! > >   hmmmmmmmmmmm..... must be that pesky virus!!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_78.14c26995.2832c8f2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/15/01 9:27:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>support@opensystemsorgans.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Oops, sorry list. = &nbsp;That was supposed to be private, like the message it was <BR>referring to. &nbsp;That makes my average .500. &nbsp;Hope I do better = at the console <BR>today! <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>hmmmmmmmmmmm..... &nbsp;must be that pesky virus!!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_78.14c26995.2832c8f2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:02:34 -0400   funny thing about the music of Max Reger......   It's almost like you need an extra finger on each hand to play it. Every organist I know who dares play it, never plays all the notes. Of all the organ recordings I've bought over the years, his music is on none of them. Of all the organists I've heard in concert, none of them play his music. I even heard that he himself, never played his own music, which is what Karg-Elert did (according to what I've heard). As Diane Bish told me, = "it's almost physically impossible to play Reger's music note-for-note".   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 15 May 2001 11:14:55 -0700   On Tue, 15 May 2001, Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > <BR>hmmmmmmmmmmm..... &nbsp;must be that pesky virus!!! &nbsp;;-)   Yeah. The one that causes Altzheimers.   Dick      
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:25:39 -0400   correction....... I DO have a Reger piece on one of my recordings. "The Glory Of The Organ", which is a double record set, recorded by Diane Bish in 1980, in St. Bavo's. On it, she plays the "Introduction and Passacaglia in d minor".   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:10:07 EDT   Hi Carlo:   The Max Reger console was shown in March,2000. on the list. I don't know if it's still available. I tried it this morning and couldn't get through. I have it saved as a cookie.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Midi Question for the Experts out there From: "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:38:45 -0700   I'm just glad that at age 60 I have a good suggestion.   Paul R. Swank.   At 09:04 AM 5/15/01, you wrote: >I just read Paul Swank's suggestion, which sounds even better. Try that >first. > >Dick >    
(back) Subject: RE: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:49:40 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C0DD56.A6F9F960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I love Reger's music. Check out www.maxreger.com   Best wishes, Mike       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C0DD56.A6F9F960 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D800004719-15052001>I love=3D20 Reger's music.&nbsp; Check out <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.maxreger.com">www.maxreger.com</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>= =3D   <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D800004719-15052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D800004719-15052001>Best=3D20 wishes,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D800004719-15052001>Mike</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D800004719-15052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D800004719-15052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C0DD56.A6F9F960--    
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:58:15 EDT   In a message dated 5/15/01 1:03:50 PM Central Daylight Time, organist@total.net writes:   << Of all the organists I've heard in concert, none of them play his = music. I even heard that he himself, never played his own music, which is what Karg-Elert did (according to what I've heard). As Diane Bish told me, = "it's almost physically impossible to play Reger's music note-for-note". >>   Similar to Brahms on the pinaner for me (some of his chords are = MONSTROUS). As a rather small person, I spend half my time arranging music to fit my reach.   What about Liszt's organ music? Is it as difficult as his piano music? = I've really only heard one piece- the B-A-C-H Fantasia and Fugue.   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: S. Wayne Foster recital From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:03:22 EDT   In a message dated 5/14/01 11:09:41 PM Central Daylight Time, rredman@imagin.net writes:   << All this in spite of the fact that there was no mention of the organ, its stoplist, or its builder in the program. This would be like announcing the conductor without telling which orchestra was playing, or listing the personnel. Members of the Dallas Symphony were listed in the program, however! >>   That's one of the things that annoyed me about the last recital I attended = at the Meyerson. Here they have a fantastic instrument and the stoplist is nowhere to be found, not even on the website anymore. I guess they don't realize that some REALLY WEIRD people want to know these things.   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Meyerson Stoplist [WAS Re: S. Wayne Foster recital] From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:24:46 -0500   >That's one of the things that annoyed me about the last recital I = attended at >the Meyerson. Here they have a fantastic instrument and the stoplist is >nowhere to be found, not even on the website anymore. I guess they don't >realize that some REALLY WEIRD people want to know these things.   The stoplist can be found on the C.B. Fisk Web site under "Instruments" - it is Opus 100 http://www.cbfisk.com/welcome.html   David  
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:25:09 EDT     --part1_70.ab1c2a9.283314d5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/15/01 1:59:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = AMADPoet@aol.com writes:     > What about Liszt's organ music? Is it as difficult as his piano music? = I've > really only heard one piece- the B-A-C-H Fantasia and Fugue. > I think it is unfortunate that these composers did not fully consider the organ as an instrument as they were composing for it. I wonder what difference it would have made. I love Reger's organ music, am not yet convinced of Brahms', and have a marginal affection for Liszt's organ = music. Especially with Liszt, it is exciting listening, but the playing is not = as much fun as it might be. I, too, wonder if I've ever heard it played = using all of the notes. But, then, does it really matter?   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_70.ab1c2a9.283314d5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/15/01 1:59:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AMADPoet@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What about Liszt's = organ music? Is it as difficult as his piano music? I've <BR>really only heard one piece- the B-A-C-H Fantasia and Fugue. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>I think it is unfortunate that these composers did not fully consider = the <BR>organ as an instrument as they were composing for it. &nbsp;I wonder = what <BR>difference it would have made. &nbsp;I love Reger's organ music, am = not yet <BR>convinced of Brahms', and have a marginal affection for Liszt's organ = music. &nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;Especially with Liszt, it is exciting listening, but the playing = is not as <BR>much fun as it might be. &nbsp;I, too, wonder if I've ever heard it = played using <BR>all of the notes. &nbsp;But, then, does it really matter? <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_70.ab1c2a9.283314d5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:04:15 -0700 (PDT)   Yes, it is played with all thenotes by great players. Keep in mind that the big Liszt organ works also exist in piano versions as well, transcribed by the composer. JW --- Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/15/01 1:59:50 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, AMADPoet@aol.com > writes: > > > > What about Liszt's organ music? Is it as difficult > as his piano music? I've > > really only heard one piece- the B-A-C-H Fantasia > and Fugue. > > > I think it is unfortunate that these composers did > not fully consider the > organ as an instrument as they were composing for > it. I wonder what > difference it would have made. I love Reger's organ > music, am not yet > convinced of Brahms', and have a marginal affection > for Liszt's organ music. > Especially with Liszt, it is exciting listening, > but the playing is not as > much fun as it might be. I, too, wonder if I've > ever heard it played using > all of the notes. But, then, does it really matter? > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ > ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Visit Howling Acres at > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:39:28 EDT   Hi Mandy:   Even Dupre's works were pared down to fit smaller hands, and Franck's by Dupre himself.   Ron Severin   PS Franck could span a twelfth with no trouble at all.  
(back) Subject: Reger, Liszt From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:49:51 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1222148301=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" ; format=3D"flowed"   > >>What about Liszt's organ music? Is it as difficult as his piano music? = I've >>really only heard one piece- the B-A-C-H Fantasia and Fugue. >,,, Liszt, it is exciting listening, but the playing is not as >much fun as it might be. I, too, wonder if I've ever heard it played = using >all of the notes. But, then, does it really matter? > >Bruce Cornely   Hey, I ain't that great, but I can play the Liszt P & F on BACH. It's not _that_ hard, and in fact falls right under the fingers. One big difference between Liszt and Reger is that Liszt played his own music and Reger didn't, right? There is a whilom player behind Liszt's notes, namely Listz himself. Like a lot of his piano music, I'm guessing, it grows out of improvisation. Whereas Reger composed out of his head, not his fingers. Only a machine could play come of his stuff. Not that Reger didn't write some lovely music, like the Benedictus, the Kyrie, the toccata and fugue in d minor, and many of the op. 67 chorale preludes (the Aus Tiefer Not is deliciously spooky!).   Reger has something in common with J.L. Krebs. They're both guilty of what Salieri in the movie "Amadeus" says of Mozart: "Too many notes!" But I have a weakness for both of them.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1222148301=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <excerpt>   <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>What about Liszt's organ music? Is it as difficult as his piano music? I've   really only heard one piece- the B-A-C-H Fantasia and Fugue.   </smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>,= ,, Liszt, it is exciting listening, but the playing is not as   much fun as it might be. I, too, wonder if I've ever heard it played using   all of the notes. But, then, does it really matter?     Bruce Cornely   </smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>   Hey, I ain't that great, but I can play the Liszt P & F on BACH. It's not _that_ hard, and in fact falls right under the fingers. One big difference between Liszt and Reger is that Liszt played his own music and Reger didn't, right? There is a whilom player behind Liszt's notes, namely Listz himself. Like a lot of his piano music, I'm guessing, it grows out of improvisation. Whereas Reger composed out of his head, not his fingers. Only a machine could play come of his stuff. Not that Reger didn't write some lovely music, like the Benedictus, the Kyrie, the toccata and fugue in d minor, and many of the op. 67 chorale preludes (the Aus Tiefer Not is deliciously spooky!).     Reger has something in common with J.L. Krebs. They're both guilty of what Salieri in the movie "Amadeus" says of Mozart: "Too many notes!" But I have a weakness for both of them. </smaller></fontfamily>   Randy Runyon   organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati   runyonr@muohio.edu   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1222148301=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--  
(back) Subject: Re: Reger, Liszt From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:01:41 EDT     --part1_ff.64ec998.28332b75_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/15/01 5:53:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     > Hey, I ain't that great, but I can play the Liszt P & F on BACH. > It's not _that_ hard, and in fact falls right under the fingers. >   Thanks for the inspiration. Maybe I'll haul it out. I went to Brenda Durden's Frantic Organist Closeout sale page and picked out about $150 = worth of music. I then thought, "Breeeeeeeeeeewse..... you have so much music =   you've never even played." Before the flash of reason could pass, I hit the "cancel" button and fleed =   home!! (Sorry Brenda.... we'll miss you!) ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_ff.64ec998.28332b75_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/15/01 5:53:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>runyonr@muohio.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hey, I ain't that = great, but I can play the Liszt P &amp; F on BACH. <BR>It's not _that_ hard, and in fact falls right under the fingers. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Thanks for the inspiration. &nbsp;Maybe I'll haul it out. = &nbsp;&nbsp;I went to Brenda <BR>Durden's Frantic Organist Closeout sale page and picked out about $150 = worth <BR>of music. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I then thought, "Breeeeeeeeeeewse..... you = have so much music <BR>you've never even played." <BR>Before the flash of reason could pass, I hit the "cancel" button and = fleed <BR>home!! <BR>(Sorry Brenda.... we'll miss you!) &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ff.64ec998.28332b75_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: X-post: Music of Max Reger From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:38:31 -0500   At 07:25 PM 5/15/01 -0400, Bruce wrote: I think it is unfortunate that these composers did not fully consider the > > organ as an instrument as they were composing for it. I wonder what > difference it would have made.     Ahh, Bruce...?   Translation please...?? What exactly do you mean by this??   Puzzled minds would like to know...<g>   Tim        
(back) Subject: RE: Reger, Liszt From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:31:28 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DD8E.C899EFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hey, I ain't that great, but I can play the Liszt P & F on BACH. It's = not _that_ hard, and in fact falls right under the fingers. One big difference between Liszt and Reger is that Liszt played his own music and Reger = didn't, right? [Mike S. ]   Right. Reger played, I believe, but did not perform his big works. The organist he wrote for was... ummm... I can't remember, but there was a = guy who performed his music.   I once read where Reger arranged Bach's twp-part inventions for organ-- the right hand playing the top, the feet playing the botton, and he added = a third part for the left hand. I don't know if these are available = anywhere or not.   Mike       ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DD8E.C899EFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Hey, I ain't that great, but I can play the Liszt P &amp; F on =3D BACH. It's=3D20 not _that_ hard, and in fact falls right under the fingers. One big =3D difference=3D20 between Liszt and Reger is that Liszt played his own music and Reger =3D didn't,=3D20 right? <BR><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D980302702-16052001>[Mike S. ]&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D980302702-16052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D980302702-16052001>Right.&nbsp; Reger played, I believe, but = =3D did=3D20 not&nbsp;perform his big works.&nbsp; The organist he wrote for =3D was...&nbsp;=3D20 ummm...&nbsp; I can't remember, but&nbsp;there was a guy who performed = =3D his=3D20 music.&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D980302702-16052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D980302702-16052001>I=3D20 once read where Reger arranged Bach's twp-part inventions for organ-- = =3D the=3D20 right hand playing the top, the feet playing the botton, &nbsp;and he = =3D added a=3D20 third part for the left hand.&nbsp; I don't know if these are =3D available=3D20 anywhere or not.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D980302702-16052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D980302702-16052001>Mike</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D980302702-16052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D980302702-16052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>= =3D </HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DD8E.C899EFC0--