PipeChat Digest #2123 - Sunday, May 27, 2001
 
Question regarding Stentorphon(e)s
  by <Doppelflote8@aol.com>
A rare find!
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Question regarding Stentorphon(e)s
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
Re: A rare find!
  by "Claire" <fleahopper@earthlink.net>
Re: A rare find!
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Service List - Solemnity of the Ascension - Sunday, May 27 - St.  Matthew
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
information needed about Midmer organ
  by <PEsch8@aol.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: A rare find!
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: [organchat] Service List - Solemnity of the Ascension - Sunday, May 2
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Service List Sunday, May 27 Post Chapel, West Point
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
 

(back) Subject: Question regarding Stentorphon(e)s From: <Doppelflote8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 07:46:43 EDT     --part1_6f.15f1d027.28424323_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Dear List: I pose this question to all of you, having just returned from the final = leg of Flue Tonal Finishing for the mighty beast at St Josephs Cathedral, = Buffalo (H/H opus 876 1876 Centennial Organ/ Andover Organ Co. IV/92).   Ths "Solo Division" contains a Stentorphon ( roiginally labled "solo dia.) e believe this to be the first example of a stentorphon in the US. Does anyone know of an earlier example from which Mr. Hastings and Mr. Bickford =   (the voicer, signed and dated) could have used for their inspiration in creating this rank of sonic imposition? According to Audlsey, no example existed in England at this time. I must confess that tuning and = regulating this rank was a true experience (...I know there is a tuning stop = on....isnt there)?   Just to give an idea..SPECS AT CC--It's a Hoot!   Scale: No. 38 approx. 8' ID Nicking: sparse, coarse nicking every 3/8 inch Mouth width: 1/4 Cutup: Arched 1/3 sides 2/5 center WP: 9" CC thru Tenor E Zinc, remainder Common Metal.   Again, any information available about an earlier example would be = helpful.   Cheers!   Alan Carrick Methuen MA   --part1_6f.15f1d027.28424323_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = COLOR=3D"#400040" SIZE=3D2><B> <BR> <BR>Dear List: <BR>I pose this question to all of you, having just returned from the = final leg <BR>of Flue Tonal Finishing for the mighty beast at St Josephs Cathedral, = Buffalo <BR>&nbsp;(H/H opus 876 1876 &nbsp;Centennial Organ/ Andover Organ Co. = IV/92). &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Ths "Solo Division" contains a Stentorphon ( roiginally labled "solo = dia.) <BR>e believe this to be the first example of a stentorphon in the US. = &nbsp;Does <BR>anyone know of an earlier example from which Mr. Hastings and Mr. = Bickford <BR>(the voicer, signed and dated) could have used for their inspiration = in <BR>creating this rank of sonic imposition? &nbsp;According to Audlsey, no = example <BR>existed in England at this time. &nbsp;I must confess that tuning and = regulating <BR>this rank was a true experience (...I know there is a tuning stop = on....isnt <BR>there)? <BR> <BR>Just to give an idea..SPECS AT CC--It's a Hoot! <BR> <BR>Scale: &nbsp;No. 38 &nbsp;approx. 8' ID <BR>Nicking: &nbsp;sparse, coarse nicking &nbsp;every 3/8 inch <BR>Mouth width: 1/4 <BR>Cutup: &nbsp;Arched 1/3 sides 2/5 center <BR>WP: &nbsp;9" <BR>CC thru Tenor E Zinc, remainder Common Metal. <BR> <BR>Again, any information available about an earlier example would be = helpful. <BR> <BR>Cheers! <BR> <BR>Alan Carrick <BR>Methuen MA</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_6f.15f1d027.28424323_boundary--  
(back) Subject: A rare find! From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 05:15:14 -0700 (PDT)     Hey, all! Some of you might not be as "in a hurry" as I seem to be so = often, but I thought I would share this with you:   Some months back the family of one of my parishes' former organists packed = up all his years of accumulations and offered them to me (he is about 90 and in a retirement = home, very frail, etc.)   I said yes of course and I would disperse it accordingly. Then when I = arrived one day to find box after box, and several grocery bags full of music the task of going = through it was a bit daunting.   We, of course the organ music was gone through and sorted into = "serious/recital" "service," etc. I new better then to toss old scores from the late 1800'a early 1900's as I = did with the last library I inherited. The point is that it is in a safe place.   Then there was box after box of music for solo voice/duet, which I have = begun going through - much of it I would never use, but I am trying to sort this into "keep," and = "give away" stacks.   There are piano trios, quintets.....There are pieces for brass and organ = (lots.) There are LOT's of piano teacher stuff - Bastien books in multiples of various levels and = others. I had made an initial effort to seperate this stuff because surely some music teacher = wou;d be able to share it with their students. Then there were the methods. method books for the = serious pianist going back at least to early 1900's, and piano scores printed in Paris that made = their way to LA by the civil war.   I guess the point is that none of the music teachers (school/private) that = I know have been willing to go through this stuff, which also includes about every major = piano composer, concertos scored for 2 pianos and even quite a bit of 4/6 hans on one keyboard.   My partner plays in a recorder group and I found a recorder book and took = it bome to bim, and explained that I had given up. I piled 5 large boxes of music up in the = Library/Conference room at the church and told our sexton to let it sit there for a couple of days = and then take it to the dumpster.   Steve (my other half) was horrified, and offered to go through it with me. = I could not believe the things I overlooked. Tons of some kind of subscription piano music with = bios on the composers, etc, and there were books of christmas songs I was going to chunk, but the = engravings/pictures alone were worth keeping to scan in and use as clip art.   Steve was thrilled with a stack of old Etude magazines in perfect shape, = and now the greatest thing:   I found an original printing of the Gerwishwin "Rapsody in Blue" for piano = solo published in 1927 in PERFECT shape. Steve did some research and there was a damaged first = edition on eBay going for $300.00. Same publisher, etc. Of course, we are going to protect this and = frame it.   But it really helped having another person (non organist/one track mind) = help. I still have three large boxes of mostly piano teacher stuff, but today they are going in the = car and I am going to make sure they go, if nowhere else, to a high-school music department. I = have a feeling it was the "come and get it" that was not so appatizing.   Any piano teachers in the San Francisco area who think you or your = students would benefit from this which ranges feom beginner to concert level and want it - let me = know. You will be glad you did if you just make the effort to come and get it!   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Question regarding Stentorphon(e)s From: <KurtvonS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:08:37 EDT     --part1_d1.72c2912.28425655_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/27/01 6:48:26 AM Central Daylight Time, Doppelflote8@aol.com writes:     > Just to give an idea..SPECS AT CC--It's a Hoot! > > Scale: No. 38 approx. 8' ID >   WOW....8'.....that IS huge! <G>   --part1_d1.72c2912.28425655_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 5/27/01 6:48:26 AM Central Daylight Time, <BR>Doppelflote8@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#400040" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"><B>Just to give an idea..SPECS AT CC--It's a Hoot! <BR> <BR>Scale: &nbsp;No. 38 &nbsp;approx. 8' ID <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE></B> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>WOW....8'.....that IS huge! &nbsp;&lt;G&gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d1.72c2912.28425655_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A rare find! From: "Claire" <fleahopper@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:57:13 -0400     Randy Terry said: (major snips)   >Some months back the family of one of my parishes' former organists = packed >up all his years of >accumulations and offered them to me (he is about 90 and in a retirement >home, very frail, etc.) > > >Any piano teachers in the San Francisco area who think you or your >students would benefit from >this which ranges feom beginner to concert level and want it - let me >know. You will be glad you >did if you just make the effort to come and get it!   I have found that the main library in Phila. is ecstatic about getting old =   sheet music & other music books - when I've gone looking for music, they usually find it in a folder in the stacks & I photocopy it - you should = see the shape some of it is in - I'm almost afraid to handle it. They love getting "replacements" etc. Possibly there is a large library in your area you could donate it to - if no one asks for it. Please don't trash it - too much of the old stuff is being lost. Claire    
(back) Subject: Re: A rare find! From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:00:07 EDT   In a message dated 5/27/01 4:55:45 PM Central Daylight Time, fleahopper@earthlink.net writes:   << Please don't trash it - too much of the old stuff is being lost. >>   Ditto- the libraries in my area will take just about anything you give = them, and happily. Someone can always use material such as this- especially = sheet music!!   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:46:29 -0700 (PDT)   There is an extra sense of control, of phrasing, of touch. if one listens carefully, they can hear it.   --- Bob Elms <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> wrote: > I wionder how you can do that? I think I could find > a player or two who > could fool you! > Bob E. > > > In a message dated 5/22/01 2:51:06 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com writes: > > > I can hear instantly whether an organist > comes from a piano background. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:49:10 -0700 (PDT)   Oh yeah, Carlo? Which great organists never studied the piano? Go ahead..name them.   --- Carlo Pietroniro <organist@total.net> wrote: > organists don't 'have' to come from a piano > background. It's not a MUST. > There are lots of great organists in the world > who've never studied piano. > You can be a great organist without ever having > played piano repertoire. I > can name you several world famous organists who > started on organ. > > Carlo > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:51:16 -0700 (PDT)   I hear some of the world's greatest pianists play regularly in Davies Hall. I've never seen any of them throw their bodies at the piano. In fact, I've seen absolute control and economy of motion.   --- support@opensystemsorgans.com wrote: > I'm joining the ranks of the dissenters on the > question of piano study. Organ technique is a lot > like harpsichord technique, and not much like piano > technique at all. I find harpsichord practice > useful, because that instrument demands really, > really precise articulation. > > The piano covers that up, and it adds a whole > different set of muscle groups. You don't play the > piano with your fingers; you throw your whole body > at the instrument. The differences are more > pronounced than the differences between squash and > tennis, which are famously difficult to alternate. > > Dick > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:54:38 -0700 (PDT)   It's not too late to start, Carlo. You'll notice a difference. --- Carlo Pietroniro <organist@total.net> wrote: > it's OBVIOUS I never took piano? Big deal!!! > > Carlo > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:56:58 -0700 (PDT)   I love Gould's playing.   --- Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/23/01 4:26:45 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com writes: > > > > he > > plays it like Glenn Gould! > > > > Which is good enough for me. I am glad that > everyone does not play like > that, but I'm sure glad that he does. There have > been several players over > the years who used very detached style in their > playing; although I can't > remember their names, I do remember their playing > very well. > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ > ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Visit Howling Acres at > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Service List - Solemnity of the Ascension - Sunday, May 27 - St. Matthew's ACC, Costa Mesa CA USA (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:40:00 -0700   Voluntaries   Opening, Offertory & Communion - Basse de Cromhorne (sic), Recit de Nazard, Flutes, Grand Jeu, Duo, Trio, Fugue, etc. - Dandrieu Closing - Improvisation: Tuba Tune on "Battle Hymn of the Republic"   Proper - Viri Galilaei - fauxbourdons   Setting - Willan / Scottish Chant   Anthems   Eternal Monarch, King Most High ("Jerusalem") - Parry Come Unto Me - Willan   Hymns   Alleluia! Sing To Jesus - Hyfrydol O Valiant Hearts, Who To Your Glory Came - Edsall Crown Him With Many Crowns - Diademata   Tomorrow is American Memorial Day, which explains our "O Valiant Hearts", "Battle Hymn of the Republic", and somebody else's "Eternal Father, Strong To Save" (the American Navy Hymn, which with expanded verses has become our Armed Forces Hymn ... there's a verse for every branch of the service in our Hymnal).   "O Valiant Hearts" is set to something else (unfamiliar) in our Hymnal, but "Edsall" makes a nice, solemn dirge ... we just sorta stop the Mass after Communion and everybody stands up and sings it ... a real three-hanky moment.   We'll have a Solemn Requiem tomorrow, but only the old folks will come .... THEN we sing the REAL tear-jerkers ... "Rock of Ages", "Abide With Me", and "Nearer, My God, To Thee", which for some reason is associated with the Armed Forces in this part of the world ... I think the service academies' bands play it during funeral processions for cadets.   And yes, we ARE having a bugler tomorrow to play Taps at the end of the Requiem.   Before somebody flames me for using Parry's "Jerusalem" TUNE for the Ascensiontide Office Hymn (the Offertory Anthem) ... "Jerusalem" doesn't have all the triumphalistic overtones for us that it does in the former British Empire ... Queen, Country and the Tory Party (grin). It's just a nice tune ... we NEVER sing the ORIGINAL words (grin); I doubt if most folks have ever HEARD them.   The choir was only 3-1-1-1 this morning, plus me singing tenor from the console, but they sounded pretty good, all in all.   Cheers,   Bud-By-The-Beach        
(back) Subject: information needed about Midmer organ From: <PEsch8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:45:37 EDT     --part1_d1.72e8f56.2842eba1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear pipe chat: I am doing research about Rueben Midmer pipe organs. The OHS has a = partial list but any information and or stop lists would be most helpful. Thanks in advance. Paul Eschenauer   --part1_d1.72e8f56.2842eba1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Franklin Gothic Book" LANG=3D"0">Dear pipe = chat: <BR>I am doing research about Rueben Midmer pipe organs. &nbsp;The OHS has = a partial <BR>list but any information and or stop lists would be most helpful. <BR>Thanks in advance. <BR>Paul Eschenauer</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d1.72e8f56.2842eba1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 07:54:48 +0800   Sorry Jack, but I cannot accept that. That means that Bach and his contemporaries and many organists of great fame lacked that "extra sense of control" since they had no piano technique? How can we know? Harpsichord may have been a help since the touch has a similar "pluck" to that of a good organ touch. I would still love to have you prove it. Bob Elms.   "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote: > > There is an extra sense of control, of phrasing, of > touch. if one listens carefully, they can hear it. > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 07:58:14 +0800   Jackson, No. You name the great organists who did study the piano. Don't list Bach, Buxtehude, etc. That would be just too easy. Who played the FIRST pianos? Do we know that?     "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote: > > Oh yeah, Carlo? Which great organists never studied > the piano? Go ahead..name them. >    
(back) Subject: Re: A rare find! From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:07:15 +0800 (CST)       On Sun, 27 May 2001, Claire wrote:   > > Randy Terry said: (major snips) > > >Some months back the family of one of my parishes' former organists = packed > >up all his years of > >accumulations and offered them to me (he is about 90 and in a = retirement > >home, very frail, etc.)     There is also the Bagaduce (sp.?) library up in Maine.... they have a web site... they are a lending library mainly by mail/UPS ... although there are certain days people can drop by... They put out printed catalogs of their holdings... and I'm sure they too would be glad to receive some of the music...   Best wishes to all...       Morton Belcher Fellow pipechat list member...    
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:08:06 EDT   Dear Jack:   I can name the most prominent organist in this whole discussion who never ever so much as touched a piano, are you ready for this J.S. BACH. It wasn't invented yet!   Ron Severin   PS Beethoven did, but was never ever considered an organist, he was a pianist and composer.  
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:01:59 +0800   I have never been to Davies Hall but I have seen many first class concert pianists in all sorts of concert halls "throw their bodies at the piano" in a way that, if copied by an organist, would have him/her losing footing and falling off the stool! I have seen few, if any, organists playing the piano with the nose 6 inches above the keyboard! Bob E.   "Jackson R. Williams II" wrote: > > I hear some of the world's greatest pianists play > regularly in Davies Hall. I've never seen any of them > throw their bodies at the piano. In fact, I've seen > absolute control and economy of motion. >    
(back) Subject: Re: [organchat] Service List - Solemnity of the Ascension - Sunday, May 27 - St. Matthew's ACC, Costa Mesa CA USA (X-posted) From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:13:36 +0800 (CST)       On Sun, 27 May 2001 Quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > We'll have a Solemn Requiem tomorrow, but only the old folks will come > ... THEN we sing the REAL tear-jerkers ... "Rock of Ages", "Abide With > Me", and "Nearer, My God, To Thee", which for some reason is associated > with the Armed Forces in this part of the world ... I think the service > academies' bands play it during funeral processions for cadets.   As for "Nearer My God to Thee," I never served in Viet Nam; but one of my friends who did said that the soldiers sang this hymn about every Sunday at their Sunday services...   I too think Parry's "Jerusalem" is a nice tune too...     Carry on, Bud!     Best wishes to all...       Morton Belcher      
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:15:17 -0400   Diane Bish began organ lessons at a very young age. She was a organist, playing services and concerts by the age of 15. She never took piano first....and don't say something like "that's evident", because she's a wonderful organist.......   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:23:30 -0700   On the contrary, Ron ... Beethoven WAS an organist, and a superb improviser, from contemporary reports, as was Mozart.   It's one of the great losses to music that Mozart and Beethoven never wrote out any of their organ improvisations. One can only IMAGINE what a body of organ works from either would be like ...   Cheers,   Bud-By-The-Beach   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Jack: > > I can name the most prominent organist in this whole discussion > who never ever so much as touched a piano, are you ready for this > J.S. BACH. It wasn't invented yet! > > Ron Severin > > PS Beethoven did, but was never ever considered an organist, he > was a pianist and composer. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Service List Sunday, May 27 Post Chapel, West Point From: "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:24:13 -0400   Voluntaries   * "The Strife Is O'er" (Lent and Easter Suite) Al Fedak * Whate'er My God Ordains Is Right J. Pachelbel Chorale and 1st variation * Cortege et Litanie Marcel Dupre' (split into prelude and postlude..)   Anthem Statue of Liberty Praise Choruses We Believe in the Holy Bible Battle Hymn of the Republic (St. 1 & 3) America the Beautiful (St. 1 & 3)   Hymns *When Morning Gilds the Skies *Onward, Christian Soldiers (St. 1 & 4 announced by hymn leader Linnea Anderson)     I played the organ on those marked * . There was no Doxology, no last stanza of America, so that a segue could be made between the anthem and the first praise chorus. Sarah Prall played piano on the anthem, choruses, and the hymns. Jay Ramaswamy played drums on all the praise choruses.   Happy Memorial Day to all!   Pat Maimone Post Chapel, West Point, NY III/57 hybrid - Aeolian-Skinner, Moeller console, Gress-Miles   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.