PipeChat Digest #2127 - Tuesday, May 29, 2001
 
Re: organ vs. piano technique
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: "American organs"
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: "American organs"
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: organ vs. piano technique
  by "Patricia A. Blissenbach" <pab@inreach.com>
Choir Size - was: Service List -  Sunday, May 27 - St Matthew
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Choir Size - was: Service List -  Sunday, May 27 - St Matthew
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: organ vs. piano technique From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:53:32 -0700 (PDT)   Your's is the best comment of all, Neil! Bravo! JW --- Innkawgneeto@cs.com wrote: > I think piano mastery is indispensible to learning > organ, but I also have > found that my organ playing has helped my piano > playing too. I am not sure I > can explain it, but I know it has. > > They benefit each other. > > Neil B >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: "American organs" From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:52:47 -0500   ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: "American organs"     > I believe that reed organs are called "American organs" in the British Isles, > though they were also made in Great Britain. Some varieties were quite large, > with a fair number of stops, and two manuals and pedals.   Not exactly. Reed organs come in two varieties -- blow and suck. The = ones that work on wind pressure -- vary popular in France -- are called harmoniums. The ones that work on vacuum are called American organs in = the British Isles, since they were usually of American manufacture. = Personally I prefer the harmonium, since it is a more expressive instrument. The harder you pump with your feet, the louder it gets. Most of the two = manual and pedal instruments have either an electric blower or a separate wheel = or handle for a calcant, since obviously you can't play the pedals and pump with your feet at the same time. The Liverpool, England, pipe organ = company of Rushworth & Dreaper (established 1828 and still in business) built some very nice two manual and pedal reed organs in the 1920's. Two manuals and pedals, however, is by no means the limit, and is not limited to English instruments. A friend of mine here in St. Louis has a three manual and pedal American built Estey reed organ in a magnificent carved case.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:17:20 -0400   you're right. I said she never took it FIRST   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:23:10 -0400   well I'll be..........   I just read that Diane DID take piano lessons, when she was 5.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: "American organs" From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:40:08 -0500   I recently restored an "American Organ" that came from Holland -Gouda, to = be exact. It's a one-manual 8-stop sucker in a smaller-than-usual 'waterfall' cabinet. The nameplate in the center of the stopboard gave the Dutch-dealers' name.   Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: Easy Bach, Historical Fingering and Other Dilemmas From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:30:36 EDT   In a message dated 5/28/01 7:53:01 PM Central Daylight Time, jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com writes:   << I heard that Pogerelich passed away. Is that true? >>   Oh God, I hope not. The last I heard he cancelled his concerts for the = next year- after the death of his wife and then his father he was diagnosed = with nervous depression, which is understandable. If anyone has any news on Pogorelich, please do pass it on. It would be terrible to lose him, especially considering how many years he could have ahead of him.   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: organ vs. piano technique From: "Patricia A. Blissenbach" <pab@inreach.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:58 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E7B6.EB3420A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I couldn't agree more enthusiastically with your statement. They do =3D benefit each other; in all manner of ways. Since beginning organ 4 =3D years ago, I listen differently now. I am much clearer about how I want = =3D a Bach prelude and fugue to sound on the piano as well as on the organ. = =3D Just to name a couple of things. Patty B-bach ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Innkawgneeto@cs.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: Re: organ vs. piano technique     I think piano mastery is indispensible to learning organ, but I also =3D have=3D20 found that my organ playing has helped my piano playing too. I am not = =3D sure I=3D20 can explain it, but I know it has.=3D20   They benefit each other.=3D20   Neil B=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E7B6.EB3420A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DBangle>I couldn't agree more enthusiastically with =3D your=3D20 statement.&nbsp; They do benefit each other; in all manner of =3D ways.&nbsp; Since=3D20 beginning organ 4 years ago, I listen differently now.&nbsp; I am much =3D clearer=3D20 about how I want a Bach prelude and fugue to sound on the piano as well = =3D as on=3D20 the organ.&nbsp; Just to name a couple of things.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DBangle>Patty B-bach</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DInnkawgneeto@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Innkawgneeto@cs.com">Innkawgneeto@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 28, 2001 =3D 11:51 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: organ vs. = piano=3D20 technique</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>I think = =3D piano mastery=3D20 is indispensible to learning organ, but I also have <BR>found that my = =3D organ=3D20 playing has helped my piano playing too. &nbsp;I am not sure I <BR>can = =3D explain=3D20 it, but I know it has. <BR><BR>They benefit each other. <BR><BR>Neil =3D B</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E7B6.EB3420A0--    
(back) Subject: Choir Size - was: Service List - Sunday, May 27 - St Matthew From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:24:16 EDT   In a message dated 5/27/01 4:36:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << The choir was only 3-1-1-1 this morning, plus me singing tenor from the console, but they sounded pretty good, all in all. >>   I'm curious what the average choir size is these days. This past Sunday = I had 4-8-4-4.at Inglewood Pres. in Bothell WA. Probably typical would be 6-6-5-4. What about other list members? Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Choir Size - was: Service List - Sunday, May 27 - St Matthew From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:28:04 EDT     --part1_43.15db446e.28449b74_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I'm not absolutely sure, but I believe Holy Trinity _Gainesville is   14-9-3-5   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_43.15db446e.28449b74_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm not absolutely = sure, but I believe Holy Trinity _Gainesville is <BR> <BR>14-9-3-5 <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_43.15db446e.28449b74_boundary--