PipeChat Digest #2474 - Friday, November 2, 2001
 
Re: All Saints' Day in Hades, a tiny town next to Perdition
  by "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@netins.net>
Re: All Saints' Day in Hades, a tiny town next to Perdition
  by "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@netins.net>
Re: Video of fire at St. John's Anglican Lunenburg NS
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Upcoming GATEWAY RINGERS events (XPOSTED)
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
membership in the parish--off topic
  by "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com>
Re: The uninitiated and the layman audiences (was: Nigel Potts)
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Effect of swell shutter opening on tonality (cross posted)
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: Effect of swell shutter opening on tonality (cross posted)
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: All Saints' Day in Hades, a tiny town next to Perdition From: "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@netins.net> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:28:09 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> To: "PIPECHAT" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; "PIPORG-L" <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:47 PM Subject: All Saints' Day in Hades, a tiny town next to Perdition     > SAINT AGATHA'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH > DeFuniak Springs, Florida > > November 1, 2001 > CELEBRATION OF THE FEAST OF ALL SAINTS >   > .. The Mardi Gras queen who > politicked against my serving on the vestry and slandered me   Well, we both know what to do about that! How goes the negotiation with Felix? My securities litigation trial is tomorrow at 9:00 am. Wish me = luck, I'm representing myself! Mark    
(back) Subject: Re: All Saints' Day in Hades, a tiny town next to Perdition From: "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@netins.net> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:48:44 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@netins.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: All Saints' Day in Hades, a tiny town next to Perdition     > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> > To: "PIPECHAT" <pipechat@pipechat.org>;   Oops! That was for Glenda, but I could use everyone's help!        
(back) Subject: Re: Video of fire at St. John's Anglican Lunenburg NS From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:18:41 EST     --part1_105.babb496.291378a1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/1/01 3:54:17 PM Central Standard Time, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes:     > http://www.ctvnews.com/index.html >   Thank you for sending this site. Of course there is the devastation over = the loss of the church as well as the organ (although I did not hear it mentioned). Lee Holcomb   --part1_105.babb496.291378a1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 11/1/01 3:54:17 PM Central Standard Time, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">http://www.ctvnews.com/index.html <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Thank you for sending this site. &nbsp;Of course there is the = devastation over the loss of the church as well as the organ (although I = did not hear it mentioned). &nbsp;Lee Holcomb</FONT></HTML>   --part1_105.babb496.291378a1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Upcoming GATEWAY RINGERS events (XPOSTED) From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:00:47 -0600   Hello all...   Just wanted to remind/notify you of some dates coming up for the Gateway Ringers of St. Louis.   11/30 - 7:30pm - Handbell Christmas Concert "Ring Around the World". This is, as the name indicates, a holiday concert featuring Christmas/Holiday carols from various parts of the world. Included are such pieces as "West Indies Carol", "O Hannukah", and more! The concert is being held in our host church (in other words, they own the bells <grin>), Kirkwood Baptist Church, in Kirkwood MO.   12/8 - AUDITIONS! We will be holding Auditions for the next two-year = term. Please contact Mark Lawson, at Morning Star Music Publishers 636-305-0100, to set up an audition time. The audition consists of a techniques test, individual ringing of a selected piece of music, and ringing with a full group. Bribes are also accepted. (JUST KIDDING!)   CDs ARE STILL ON SALE! We have plenty of CDs available for purchase. = What a great gift idea! Our CD, "A Time to Dance" contains a variety of music: Ragtime, Sacred, Secular, and Christmas.   Visit our website at http://www.gatewayringers.homestead.com. Click on = "OUR SITE" to get more information about the group and about the CD.   Regards, Jeff White Gateway Ringers, St. Louis MO    
(back) Subject: membership in the parish--off topic From: "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:17:21 -0500   Dear Chatters,   Well, I've been lurking around here for quite a while. Pardon my jumping = in. I never thought this thread would last this long, although it doesn't seem = that far off-topic. And it is an interesting question.   Churches are organized around a group of people who are relatively = like-minded. Some churches are completely open to qualified church musicians regardless = of their personal beliefs. Others are not. Some organists are completely = open to positions where the instrument and pay are good (or good enough), = regardless of the theology (or politics) of the church. Others are not.   I'm not sure that these employment relationships should be legally = enforced. For example, I'm not sure we'd want to enforce Jerry Falwell's right to be = on staff at a Metropolitan Community Church, although it could be worth the = irony.   You hope, of course, that the clergy are at least of the same *species*, although from some recent posts, even this does not appear to be = guaranteed.   I would never consider a position in a church whose theology and values I = could not support. But I'm not full-time. If I were, I probably couldn't = afford to be so definitive.   I think a church has the right to select a staff that can effectively = support its program. This could mean that it needs a great musician, or it could = mean something else.   Otherwise, I'm not sure that it makes much difference if you are actually = a member of the church or not. I've seen it be pleasant either way. And if = they won't serve you communion, BYOB&W. Offer yours to everybody else. Or = ask, "If Jesus was willing to serve Judas, why aren't you willing to serve me?"   Mark (Please be gentle. This is my first post.)    
(back) Subject: Re: The uninitiated and the layman audiences (was: Nigel Potts) From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 01:48:08 EST   Hell-Concerts@t-online.de wrote:       > Don't you feel, Herr Dr. > Moyer, that your posting regarding > the "uninitated" and the "layman audiences" calls for > an > explanation before the "uninitiated" and the "layman > audiences". > I for my part, as a member of one of these groups, feel > offended, > especially within the context of your arrogant and > disparaging > formulation about the kind of players, you describe.   Dear Herr Hell,   My impression of Dr. Moyer's posting was merely that Nigel Potts isn't "showy," but rather has a real and substantive presence, and made the = music the focus of his concert rather than his personality. I felt that Dr. = Moyer believed that those of solid musianship would truly enjoy Mr. Potts' artistry, and that someone with little musical training would simply enjoy =   beautiful music.   Correct me if I'm wrong?   Yours, Victoria Ceruti  
(back) Subject: Effect of swell shutter opening on tonality (cross posted) From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:35:20 -0000   Is anyone aware of any research, or in lieu of that informed opinion will do, of the effect of swell shutter opening on the tonality of the enclosed pipe sounds ? My ears tell me that, as the shutters close, the upper freqencies are attenuated more than the lower or conversely, as they = open, the sound becomes more brilliant. The effect is very evident in the = opening sfzorzando on the recent and excellent Russell Holmes/Solihull Compton CD.   I have been experimenting with reproducing this effect on my soundfont virtual 'Cinema Organ'. Without it adjusting the 'shutters' sounds just = like a volume control being adjusted, which is exactly what it is. - most unrealistic.   I would welcome some thoughts and feedback on this, particularly any quantitative information which may exist.   Regards   Bruce Miles   mail to:- bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk website:- www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk    
(back) Subject: Re: Effect of swell shutter opening on tonality (cross posted) From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 00:32:35 -0800   Bruce,   What you are hearing is the highfrequencies being more attenuated more than the low as the swell shades close. To simulate this, in addition to the volume change, you need to apply a lowpass filter so that its attenuation of the high frequencies increases as the simulated swell shades close, and reverse the process as they open. You will have to adjust the lowpass filter effects to effectively emulate the swell shades. Good luck with your experiment.   Vern, Sound Research http://www.foothill.net/~soundres   Bruce Miles wrote: >My ears tell me that, as the shutters close, the upper > freqencies are attenuated more than the lower or conversely, as they = open, > the sound becomes more brilliant. The effect is very evident in the = opening > sfzorzando on the recent and excellent Russell Holmes/Solihull Compton = CD.