PipeChat Digest #2494 - Friday, November 9, 2001
 
Re: Announcing Dr. Jonathan B. Hall
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Announcing Dr. Jonathan B. Hall
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Re: Ebay, still the world's best humor site...
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Announcing Dr. Jonathan B. Hall
  by "Greg Homza" <homza@indiana.edu>
RE: Fulltime Churches/organists in general
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
RE: Fulltime Churches/organists in general
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Nightmares
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general
  by "pat and ian" <patian@senet.com.au>
Re: Nightmares
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
RE: Ebay, still the world's best humor site...
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Ebay, still the world's best humor site...
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Dr. Jonathan B. Hall From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 07:22:01 -0600     --------------2EBB5CAD151C79DC37D91821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Probably not. I finished mine 5 years ago, and I'm still waiting for them to send me my prescription pads! ;-)   CONGRATS, DR! HALL!!   Margo   "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" wrote:   > Yeah!!! > > (But does Dr. Hall do house calls?) > > OrganNYC@aol.com wrote: > >> You may now call him Doctor Hall! >> >> >> >> Congratulations to our own Jonathan Hall, on his receiving the >> Doctorate of Musical Arts at Indiana University in Bloomington. >> Jonathan was a student of Dr. Marilyn Keiser, and did his thesis on >> the life and music of Calvin Hampton. Dr. Hall serves as the Editor >> of the NYC AGO's The AGO Times, and is the Calendar Editor for same. >> He is the Organist/Choirmaster at the Church of the Epiphany in >> Manhattan, and is Director of Music for Temple Emanuel in Great >> Neck. >> >> Bravo, Jonathan! >> >> >   --------------2EBB5CAD151C79DC37D91821 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Probably not.&nbsp; I finished mine 5 years ago, and I'm still waiting for them to send me my prescription pads!&nbsp; ;-) <p>CONGRATS, DR! HALL!! <p>Margo <p>"Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>Yeah!!! <p>(But does Dr. Hall do house calls?) <p>OrganNYC@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE> <center><b><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font color=3D"#030025"><font = size=3D+1>You may now call him Doctor Hall!</font></font></font></b></center>   <p><br> <br> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#030025"><font = size=3D-1>Congratulations to our own <b>Jonathan Hall</b>, on his receiving the Doctorate of Musical Arts at Indiana University in Bloomington. Jonathan was a student of Dr. Marilyn Keiser, and did his thesis on the life and music of Calvin = Hampton. Dr. Hall serves as the Editor of the NYC AGO's <i>The AGO Times, </i>and is the Calendar Editor for same. He is the Organist/Choirmaster at the Church of the Epiphany in Manhattan, and is Director of Music for Temple Emanuel in Great Neck.</font></font></font> <p><b><i><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#030025"><font = size=3D+0>Bravo, Jonathan!</font></font></font></i></b> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;</blockquote> </blockquote> </html>   --------------2EBB5CAD151C79DC37D91821--    
(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Dr. Jonathan B. Hall From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 08:55:38 -0500     --------------8F0846F3612C68DFB18BD497 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   But Margo, you CAN write a prescription....beautiful music... :o)   Margo Dillard wrote:   > Probably not. I finished mine 5 years ago, and I'm still waiting for > them to send me my prescription pads! ;-) > > CONGRATS, DR! HALL!! > > Margo > > "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" wrote: > >> Yeah!!! >> >> (But does Dr. Hall do house calls?) >> >> OrganNYC@aol.com wrote: >> >> > You may now call him Doctor Hall! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Congratulations to our own Jonathan Hall, on his receiving the >> > Doctorate of Musical Arts at Indiana University in Bloomington. >> > Jonathan was a student of Dr. Marilyn Keiser, and did his thesis on >> > the life and music of Calvin Hampton. Dr. Hall serves as the Editor >> > of the NYC AGO's The AGO Times, and is the Calendar Editor for >> > same. He is the Organist/Choirmaster at the Church of the Epiphany >> > in Manhattan, and is Director of Music for Temple Emanuel in Great >> > Neck. >> > >> > Bravo, Jonathan! >> > >> > >>   --------------8F0846F3612C68DFB18BD497 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> But Margo, you CAN write a prescription....beautiful music... :o) <p>Margo Dillard wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>Probably not.&nbsp; I finished mine 5 years ago, and I'm still waiting for them to send me my prescription pads!&nbsp; ;-) <p>CONGRATS, DR! HALL!! <p>Margo <p>"Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>Yeah!!! <p>(But does Dr. Hall do house calls?) <p>OrganNYC@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE> <center><b><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font color=3D"#030025"><font = size=3D+1>You may now call him Doctor Hall!</font></font></font></b></center>   <p><br> <br> <br> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#030025"><font = size=3D-1>Congratulations to our own <b>Jonathan Hall</b>, on his receiving the Doctorate of Musical Arts at Indiana University in Bloomington. Jonathan was a student of Dr. Marilyn Keiser, and did his thesis on the life and music of Calvin = Hampton. Dr. Hall serves as the Editor of the NYC AGO's <i>The AGO Times, </i>and is the Calendar Editor for same. He is the Organist/Choirmaster at the Church of the Epiphany in Manhattan, and is Director of Music for Temple Emanuel in Great Neck.</font></font></font> <p><b><i><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#030025"><font = size=3D+0>Bravo, Jonathan!</font></font></font></i></b> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;</blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </html>   --------------8F0846F3612C68DFB18BD497--    
(back) Subject: Re: Ebay, still the world's best humor site... From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:30:34 EST   In Oklahoma City there is a string of houses with the swastica emblem on = the chimneys. They were built before WWII. During the war, the emblems were painted, or the houses were for sale. It was an emblem long before = Hitler. Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Dr. Jonathan B. Hall From: "Greg Homza" <homza@indiana.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:27:37 -0500 (EST)   On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 OrganNYC@aol.com wrote:   > You may now call him Doctor Hall! > > Congratulations to our own Jonathan Hall, on his receiving the Doctorate = of > Musical Arts at Indiana University in Bloomington.   Congrats to Jonathan. It was truly an honor and pleasure getting to know him during his time in Bloomington, and he contributed much to the department. I had hoped to attend his document defense on Wednesday, but alas, I had to scurry off to my afternoon of whipping my choirs into shape for Advent/Christmas.   Best, -greg homza bloomington, IN   P.S. Not to be picky, but Dr. Hall's degree is actually "Doctor of Music," not "Doctor of Musical Arts." IUB does not offer a DMA...only DMs (in Organ or Organ/Church Music.)          
(back) Subject: RE: Fulltime Churches/organists in general From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:02:57 -0600   The good thing about a full-time position in education is that your hours = at the workplace (not counting preparation, etc.) give you somewhat more flexibility than some other full-time jobs. And, usually, you have summer periods and other breaks to devote to one or more of your other lives. = Now, if you could manage to locate somewhere where you could teach, play, = direct, study, apprentice with a builder, and surf.....   So anyway, my point...does anyone have any advice on, fulltime = church, part time church, fulltime ed., or just be a crazy organ builder?   -Pete    
(back) Subject: RE: Fulltime Churches/organists in general From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:18:27 -0500   Pete Isherwood asks:   >Schools seem to offer more in the longrun, but churches have everything I want.   I did similarly to you, fulfilling all the requirements for a double major (organ and music ed.) in four years; but Lawrence would not award a double major for just four years of study. Officially, then, my degree is in = music ed. Coincidentally or not, it was the very day after my senior recital = that the music ed. prof called me into his office to say that he couldn't let = me go out and practice teach unless I changed my major to music ed. This was very distressing, because I had my heart set on a degree in organ, but I = had also made a considerable investment in the music ed. program that would be worth little without the practice teaching needed for certification. I = was nearly in tears as I turned to LaVahn Maesch, my advisor (who was also my organ teacher and the dean) asking what I should do.   He quickly calmed me down and recommended that I change my major, = reassuring me that this was no reflection on my recital or my playing in general, but the simple fact that I had nothing to lose by it. It was a mere formality. Teacher certification means a lot, even if one is uncertain about whether = to use it. A degree in organ doesn't mean as much, because you carry your certification in your fingers as it were. If people want to know how well you play the organ, you can sit down and show them in about ten minutes, = and you will almost invariably need to do so.   As it happened, I went directly to graduate school including a "second master's" in librarianship, so I never took either a regular teaching job nor a full-time church position. You know is crawling with burned-out, disillusioned ex-church musicians who decided to cast around for another career without being particularly well-prepared for anything else-- not an enviable condition at all. I knew this, too, and decided that it was = just as well *not* to spoil my love for something I loved by depending upon it for a full-time livelihood, hence perhaps needing to stay in a situation that had turned sour. If you have another source of income, you can = either love a church job or say goodbye.   Quite a few Cecilian emigres have landed in computer work. As one said, "For anyone who has learned to compose a fugue in Bach's style, computer programming is a cinch." Have you tried it? You don't need to study it formally because it lends itself particularly well to the autodidact. You might find it a very absorbing hobby that also offers lucrative career possibilities, should you need them.   I think if I were to go into music teaching, I would be most interested in parochial or "private" schools rather than public. Several of my friends are or have been private school teachers, and they are another breed. = They don't usually make as much money, alas, but they are devoted teachers who keep their subject-area interests alive and can relate to students without = a stifling interface of bureaucracy. This sounds traitorous to say, because my father was a public school teacher and the public schools and teachers where I attended were wonderful. But times have changed; today's students are seldom so fortunate. Of these friends, most have been church musicians as well, and the two endeavors can complement each other wonderfully. Many prep schools can eventually prove great sources of church choristers, with none of the "separation of church and state" nonsense to contend against. Others have their own chapels. Suppose, for example, that you = eventually land in a place like the Groton School in Massachusetts. The chapel is an architectural gem by Henry Vaughan and contains another masterpiece in a = G. Donald Harrison Aeolian-Skinner. When I met the teacher/organist awhile back, he said that, although he has been there many years, he still can hardly believe that people actually pay him for the pleasure of playing = that organ. What a heavenly existence.   Paul    
(back) Subject: Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 13:24:05 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3088157045_5377074_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   Dear Pete,   In the process of all this work, do you still get at least a little = time to go swimming, relax and stay in some sort of shape? It helps give you energy for the rest of your week. I run, but the principle is the same.   Cordially,   Dr. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   --MS_Mac_OE_3088157045_5377074_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Dear Pete,<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In the process of all this work, do you still get at = lea=3D st a <B>little </B>time to go swimming, relax and stay in some sort of = shape=3D ? &nbsp;&nbsp;It helps give you energy for the rest of your week. &nbsp;I = ru=3D n, but the principle is the same.<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cordially,<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dr. Karl E. Moyer<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lancaster PA </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3088157045_5377074_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:51:10 -0800   If I were able to do ANYTHING else at this point in my life (after 50 = years of being a church musician, both full and part time), I would DO it.   I am so battered and bruised from the experience that if I weren't a = full-time working organist, I'd probably NEVER set foot in a church again FOR ANY = REASON. And I was a DEVOUT anglo-catholic for MOST of my adult life.   NEVER trust a church. They'll put the screws to you EVERY DAMN TIME, = sooner or later. "Christians" ??!! ... my grandmother's plowing mule was a better Christian; so's my collie.   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach   "Storandt, Peter" wrote:   > The good thing about a full-time position in education is that your = hours at > the workplace (not counting preparation, etc.) give you somewhat more > flexibility than some other full-time jobs. And, usually, you have = summer > periods and other breaks to devote to one or more of your other lives. = Now, > if you could manage to locate somewhere where you could teach, play, = direct, > study, apprentice with a builder, and surf..... > > So anyway, my point...does anyone have any advice on, fulltime = church, > part time church, fulltime ed., or just be a crazy organ builder? > > -Pete > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Nightmares From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 15:19:50 -0500   Thank heaven, I'm not particularly afflicted with nightmares or sleeping programs; but when I do have a nightmare, it's often about something going drastically wrong in a church service when I'm at the organ. I can't remember any of these now "...as a dream dies at the opening day" but = last night's was a doozy: something going drastically wrong with a recital.   I was to give a post-evensong recital at an eminent, wealthy church or cathedral. After practicing there for several days beforehand, I went up = to the console a few minutes before I was to begin the performance to find = that it was a different console. Apparently the organist for that day liked "small is beautiful" and considered more than three manuals to be a = nuisance (like at Canterbury Cathedral, maybe, where the organ has shrunk from four manuals to three. How apt for the symbolic seat of Anglicanism these days...). So the large console I had practiced on had been temporarily removed and replaced, no great difficulty in these high-tech, plug-in = days, and no one had bothered to let me know. All my registration settings were gone; and furthermore, the console lacked a drawknob for any stop out of favor with this minimalist organist. Those without drawknobs were available only by a cumbersome method of setting them in the pistons (such as some consoles actually have for remotely playing another organ at the opposite end of the building). I desperately started to set my = combinations as well as I could from memory, but it took so long that by the time I = began playing a lot of the audience had left. This was just as well, for my performance went down in the place's history as one of its most ludicrous musical disasters.   With digitalization simplifying the cabling and controlling of organs, perhaps the idea of several consoles in different styles according to = taste is not beyond the realm of possibility for that handful of establishments who evidently can't think of any better use for their money than to continually rework and enlarge an already enormous organ.   Does anyone else have a professional bad dream they would like to share?   Paul    
(back) Subject: Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general From: "pat and ian" <patian@senet.com.au> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 06:55:10 +1030   Sadly, many parsons, preachers, priests, etc., call them what you like, = were not "called" to their profession by the "Almighty" IMHO. And what of the "pseudo" Christian church committees giving us a "hard time". That's my 2 cents worth. Ian.   > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:51:10 -0800 > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general > > If I were able to do ANYTHING else at this point in my life (after 50 = years of > being a church musician, both full and part time), I would DO it. > > I am so battered and bruised from the experience that if I weren't a = full-time > working organist, I'd probably NEVER set foot in a church again FOR ANY > REASON. > And I was a DEVOUT anglo-catholic for MOST of my adult life. > > NEVER trust a church. They'll put the screws to you EVERY DAMN TIME, = sooner or > later. "Christians" ??!! ... my grandmother's plowing mule was a better > Christian; so's my collie. > > Cheers, > > Bud-by-the-Beach    
(back) Subject: Re: Nightmares From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 15:53:47 -0500   Yes, taking once-in-a-lifetime photographs only to find out there's no = film in the camera... eeeeek!!!   "Emmons, Paul" wrote:   > Does anyone else have a professional bad dream they would like to share? > > Paul >    
(back) Subject: RE: Ebay, still the world's best humor site... From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 16:12:39 -0500   >In Oklahoma City there is a string of houses with the swastica emblem on the >chimneys. They were built before WWII.   As I recall, swastikas appear among many other symbols in S. Paul's Cathedral, Peoria, Ill. This is a modern building in the architectural style of an airplane hangar-- a simple rectangle-- but the interior arrangement, windows, furniture, and decor make it rather elegant and very interesting, well worth visiting if you ever find yourself in central Illinois. The building is obviously post-WWII, but the swastika is an ancient symbol of peace, and perhaps the architect felt that anything like that is too noble and valuable to allow a warmonger to corrupt and spoil = it into disuetude.    
(back) Subject: RE: Ebay, still the world's best humor site... From: "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:01:29 -0800   IIRC, the Nazi swastika was -reversed- from traditional forms. IOW, the 'arms' are pointing in the opposite direction.   True??   Ron Yost    
(back) Subject: Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:29:09 EST     --part1_9a.1c87e741.291db2b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/9/01 12:53:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, = Oboe32@aol.com writes:     > does anyone have any advice on, fulltime church, part time church, = fulltime > ed., or just be a crazy organ builder? > My advice, which was partially given to me at the outset of my career and which I totally ignored (!), is to start a business that eventually will = be run by others but from which you will derive a comfortable income and = future security. It was true in 1965 and is even more true now, that = depending upon churches for sustenance is foolhardy. Teaching in schools will = only be rewarding if that's REALLY what you want to do. Otherwise, it will almost drive you crazy, not to mention leaving you too drained to spend quality time at the organ. It's much like church music: nobody in their =   right mind would want to do it.   Now, unfortunately, too late to do me any good with regard to church music = I am starting a business that will lead me to a projected income of $109,000 =   annually in three years. After that the business is somewhat self-perpetuating and I will have a comfortable income for the rest of my life. When I go to seminars I meet physicians, architects, engineers = and other people who have left careers with six-figure incomes to start their = own similar businesses. The difference being that they will no longer have to =   work ten to fifteen hours daily to maintain their income and will not be = at the mercy of an uncaring employer.   In four to five years, I will have moved back to New England and hopefully =   will have found a redundant church building to purchase and live in along with my beagles and pipe organs. I will also have the financial ability = to make the last years of my mother's life pleasant and carefree.   Those of you who are preparing for careers in church music or want to = travel around playing recitals would do well to consider this. The freedom = which results from financial independence cannot be overrated. I wish that I = had done this thirty years ago.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_9a.1c87e741.291db2b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 11/9/01 12:53:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, Oboe32@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">does anyone have = any advice on, fulltime church, part time church, fulltime ed., or just be = a crazy organ builder? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">My advice, which was partially given to me at = the outset of my career and which I totally ignored (!), is to start a = business that eventually will be run by others but from which you will = derive a comfortable income and future security. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It was true in 1965 and is even more true now, = that depending upon churches for sustenance is foolhardy. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Teaching in schools will only be rewarding if that's = REALLY &nbsp;what you want to do. &nbsp;&nbsp;Otherwise, it will almost = drive you crazy, not to mention leaving you too drained to spend quality = time at the organ. &nbsp;It's much like church music: &nbsp;&nbsp;nobody = in their right mind would want to do it. <BR> <BR>Now, unfortunately, too late to do me any good with regard to church = music I am starting a business that will lead me to a projected income of = $109,000 annually in three years. &nbsp;&nbsp;After that the business is = somewhat self-perpetuating and I will have a comfortable income for the rest of my life. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;When I go to seminars I meet physicians, architects, = engineers and other people who have left careers with six-figure incomes = to start their own similar businesses. &nbsp;The difference being that = they will no longer have to work ten to fifteen hours daily to maintain = their income and will not be at the mercy of an uncaring employer. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>In four to five years, I will have moved back to New England and = hopefully will have found a redundant church building to purchase and live = in along with my beagles and pipe organs. &nbsp;I will also have the = financial ability to make the last years of my mother's life pleasant and = carefree. <BR> <BR>Those of you who are preparing for careers in church music or want to = travel around playing recitals would do well to consider this. = &nbsp;&nbsp;The freedom which results from financial independence cannot = be overrated. &nbsp;&nbsp;I wish that I had done this thirty years ago. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_9a.1c87e741.291db2b5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Fulltime Churches/organists in general From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:39:01 EST     --part1_110.81f0aff.291db505_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/9/01 12:12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:     > The good thing about a full-time position in education is that your = hours at > the workplace (not counting preparation, etc.) give you somewhat more > flexibility than some other full-time jobs   Unfortunately the salary does not allow you to use the time in this way; = in addition, there is grading papers and bus doody.... oops, duty!   ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_110.81f0aff.291db505_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 11/9/01 12:12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The good thing = about a full-time position in education is that your hours at <BR>the workplace (not counting preparation, etc.) give you somewhat more <BR>flexibility than some other full-time jobs</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Unfortunately the salary does not allow you to use the time in this = way; &nbsp;in addition, there is grading papers and bus doody.... = &nbsp;oops, duty! <BR> <BR>;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_110.81f0aff.291db505_boundary--