PipeChat Digest #2505 - Sunday, November 18, 2001
 
Re: working with people who know it all
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: Working with People who know it all number 2
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: working with people who know it all From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:55:45 EST   Hey... With my small amount of experience, and the fact that everyday I learn something new, I feel that any criticism by anyone who is experienced on = the organ should be regarded as ways for me to improve on the organ. My organ =   professor is adamant that I do not fall out of his range of teaching, and = do much of my own improvisation until he feels that I am disciplined enough = not to fall back into my old habits. Nonetheless, I do find it difficult to = take advice from someone who knows absolutely nothing about the instrument. Especially a choir member. The choir members in my previous church sat = about 3 or 4 feet directly beneath the organ chambers, and there is no way that they could ever know what the organ sounds like to the congregation. But there will always be people who complain. I find, however, that the number of people who voice there judgments (providing that they have no experience) do so to compensate for there own lack of knowledge and inexperience. I once donated a large Allen organ to a church, and the organist could not =   play it, so they asked me to play it till he learned how. Later that year =   his sister in law moved into town, and she wanted to play. Every Sunday = she would come up and say things like "the organ is too WHINY" "the organ = sounds too much like a PIPE ORGAN" "the organ has too much BASS" "the organ needs =   more VIBRATO" "that organ doesn't sound like the HAMMOND". That last one = did it. I called the pastor, and we had a meeting about the whole thing. Needless to say she got herself a position, and I got my Allen organ back! = Although she knew absolutely nothing about the organ, she griped and complained only to satisfy her lack of playing ability, and make herself = look better and make me look bad in front of anyone who happened to be there = when she decided to complain (which oddly enough, she waited till there were a = lot of people around before she said anything, usually very loudly). Those are just my thoughts... Thanks Josh  
(back) Subject: Re: Working with People who know it all number 2 From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:10:12 EST     --part1_127.7480abd.2928b8d4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Bud says (snip) "Have you gone out into the church and listened while someone else played, using your combinations?"   Pete, you may want to ask the gentleman if he would come to the church one =   day and play the organ (providing that he does know a little bit about the =   organ), using your registrations, while you sit in the sanctuary and = listen. I was playing at a friends church one day using some of my own = combinations. He walked in and was impressed with my registration. When I showed him = what I was using, he was surprised because that was a combination that he used, =   but never knew it sounded like it did in from the congregations point of view. So many organists never get to hear their own organs. Also, have him do the same thing while you play, asking him to walk around =   and sit in different areas and hear the difference in the sound.   By doing this, you put yourself in a position to show him that you didn't just put his opinion off, and you put him in a position to actually show = off his inability to play the organ <G>! Just kidding.... Thanks Josh   --part1_127.7480abd.2928b8d4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bud says<BR> (snip)<BR> <I>"Have you gone out into the church and listened while someone else<BR> played, using your combinations?"</I><BR> <BR> Pete, you may want to ask the gentleman if he would come to the church one = day and play the organ (providing that he does know a little bit about the = organ), using your registrations, while you sit in the sanctuary and = listen.&nbsp; I was playing at a friends church one day using some of my = own combinations.&nbsp; He walked in and was impressed with my = registration.&nbsp; When I showed him what I was using, he was surprised = because that was a combination that he used, but never knew it sounded = like it did in from the congregations point of view.&nbsp; So many = organists never get to hear their own organs.<BR> Also, have him do the same thing while you play, asking him to walk around = and sit in different areas and hear the difference in the sound.&nbsp; = <BR> <BR> By doing this, you put yourself in a position to show him that you didn't = just put his opinion off, and you put him in a position to actually show = off his inability to play the organ &lt;G&gt;!&nbsp; Just kidding....<BR> Thanks<BR> Josh</FONT></HTML>   --part1_127.7480abd.2928b8d4_boundary--