PipeChat Digest #2508 - Tuesday, November 20, 2001
 
Re: buffalo, NY
  by "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net>
RE: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Working with People who know it all...
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
RE: buffalo, NY
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Free blower
  by <MWORGLBAU@aol.com>
Chimes info
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Chimes info
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Open Console experience
  by "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com>
Re: buffalo, NY
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
clipart help (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: clipart help (X-posted)
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: Working with People who know it all...
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Clip art....
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: Chimes info
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Gainesville Fisk
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: clipart help (X-posted)
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Working with People who know it all...
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: buffalo, NY
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: buffalo, NY
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: buffalo, NY From: "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:02:10 -0500       Innkawgneeto@cs.com wrote: > > The big Lutheran Church has a nice organ (the name escapes me now). > > Neil B   Holy Trinity. One tale is that there's a sizeable endowment for the organ, so (apologies to the Energizer bunny) it just grows and grows and grows. A Moller originally, with more recent attention by (I think) Kegg of Ohio.   This organ-by-accretion principle is also to be found at St. Matthew's Lutheran, Hanover, PA, except it was an Austin at heart. This one now has something like six or seven blowers.   Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: RE: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:35:08 -0500   Dear Karl:   If Clokey died Nov. 14, 1960, I want to inform the music librarians' list, so that they can annotate the reference books in their libraries, so the error is corrected. We take such mistakes in reference books seriously.   But before sticking my neck out in that way, I would need a citation of = the evidence. Would you like to let me know how you discovered the correct date?   Thank you.   Paul    
(back) Subject: RE: Working with People who know it all... From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:15:10 -0500   >SOMETIMES it's just plain cussedness (grin). I have this one old dude who complains regularly and loudly about the organ. Now, one Sunday the organ wouldn't WORK, so I played the very modest spinet piano that we keep in the church for such emergencies. We're in the back, BTW.   >You know where this is going, don't you? (grin)   >Sure enough, he came back and complained about the organ being too loud.   This reminds me of two anecdotes about E.M. Skinner finishing organs.   1. He was sitting at the console while a voicer was starting to work on a very quiet stop in the echo division.   As he held a note, he couldn't hear it and called out, "Is it playing?" When he heard voicer replying that it was, he ordered, "Well, make it softer."   2. He was supervising the voicing of the Erzahler at Girard College, and kept calling for it to be louder and louder, until it was practically a prinzipal. After he had left, the voicer put it back to the tone it = should have. Later, when Skinner was demonstrating the organ, he drew the = Erzahler and played some ethereal chords on it. Beaming at the listeners, he = purred, "hear how the sound just floats down so gently. You wouldn't want it any other way!"   Pete, you didn't mention whether your critic was speaking as though he was trying to be friendly and helpful, or whether he was complaining. I think = I would take to heart whatever might be plausible. Maybe he is just taking = an avuncular interest in you.   When I was in Yakima, Wash. a certain rather bossy and officious woman = aged about 60 in my choir would sometimes complain about the music I chose. = The rector sympathized with me, explaining that she likes to carry on that way with everyone at church. He actually said, "People assume that she's = such a 'good Christian,' but I think she's a bitch!"   To digress, she made quite a scene once about "Jesu, send us peace" by, as = I recall, Stephen Wilson-Dickson (published by Banks & Son, York). I loved this anthem, still love it, and would recommend it for these times. It is the kind of thing that a fairly good musician would consider easy, but people unfamiliar with the idiom would find difficult. SATB/organ, but there is a lot of unison or two voices doubled. Anyway, I put the music away to placate her, but very reluctantly and, I said, only for the time being. One of her arguments was that most people in the congregation wouldn't like it, only a minority would. I replied of course it will be a minority, but when 95% of the repertoire appeals to the majority, the majority should be able to spare the other 5% to speak to various others that are being left out.   But she also sometimes complained if she found a communion voluntary too lugubrious. After thinking about it, I had to admit that she was probably right in this case. Communion being a heavenly feast, it calls for = quietly joyful music to accompany it.   Paul    
(back) Subject: Re: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:29:27 -0500   Dear Paul,   Bless you. Yours is a good response. I guess I'll take the = agreement of _Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians_ and Corliss Arnold as sufficient evidence. It would be possible, of course, to check Clokey's obituary notice in the Covina CA newspapers or the like; or also check = with Miami U in Ohio.   Cordially,   Karl   > From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:35:08 -0500 > To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: RE: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates > > Dear Karl: > > If Clokey died Nov. 14, 1960, I want to inform the music librarians' = list, > so that they can annotate the reference books in their libraries, so the > error is corrected. We take such mistakes in reference books seriously. > > But before sticking my neck out in that way, I would need a citation of = the > evidence. Would you like to let me know how you discovered the correct > date? > > Thank you. > > Paul > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:57:54 +0800 (CST)   One may also check the social security death index (it's on the web) and see if he is listed... and take that date into consideration...     Morton Belcher fellow pipechat list member   On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Karl Moyer wrote: > > > > Dear Karl: > > > > If Clokey died Nov. 14, 1960, I want to inform the music librarians' = list, > > so that they can annotate the reference books in their libraries, so = the > > error is corrected. We take such mistakes in reference books = seriously. > > > > But before sticking my neck out in that way, I would need a citation = of the > > evidence. Would you like to let me know how you discovered the = correct > > date? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Paul > >    
(back) Subject: RE: buffalo, NY From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:18:03 -0500   Doesn't the Episcopal Cathedral (St. Paul's?) have a Schlicker in front = and a Hope-Jones in back? Something interesting like that.   Although, like many, it may have its ups and downs, the men and boys' = choir, too, is one of the finest and most famous in America. I wouldn't miss an opportunity to hear them. Upstate New York used to be noteworthy for its Episcopal boychoirs. Alas, today this and the one in All Saints' = Cathedral, Albany are all that remain.   Paul    
(back) Subject: RE: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:39:27 -0500   Baker's is indeed one of the most reputable sources for accuracy, although one must bear in mind that the editions under Nicholas Slonimsky became = less and less reliable. He was a formidable editor and stickler for detail in his prime, but by the time he gave up the reins (or was it gave up the ghost) he had simply become too old to keep up, even though he still had more energy and wit in his 90s than some of us had in our twenties.   He also insisted that the dictionary should be remain just one volume. = The simple fact that the newest edition jumped abruptly from one volume to six makes it obvious that it has entered a new era, with Slonimsky no longer = in charge. Nevertheless, Clokey's entry has been dropped.   There are at least three reasons in the above why successive editions of Baker's should not be regarded as superseding one another. Unfortunately, = my overcrowded library now has only the current edition on the shelf; others are stored away pending the opening of expanded quarters in a few years. Karl has evidently consulted one of the older editions, but there is = nothing wrong with that.   Arnold might simply have adopted the dates in Baker's for everyone he = found there. Out of curiosity, I would like to investigate further.   Paul    
(back) Subject: Re: The Correct Joseph Clokey Dates From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:29:34 -0500   > > Karl has evidently consulted one of the older editions, but there is = nothing > wrong with that.   Yes, the 8th edition.   Karl    
(back) Subject: Free blower From: <MWORGLBAU@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:55:49 EST   Dear list members,   We are presently rebuilding an organ in the greater Los Angeles area, =   and the original blower is being replaced because the instrument is being expanded, and the blower will not be large enough to supply the enlarged instrument.   The blower is one of the old "green box" kinetic blowers, that was providing wind for a 16 rank straight organ that was mostly 8' manual = stops. The motor is 220v, 3 phase. The blower was working in good condition when = the rebuild was started, but will need some cleaning up. We are giving it away =   for free to the first person that wants it. The lucky person that takes it =   will be responsible for its removal, but the blower has easy access on the =   ground floor, right off the parking lot. The blower, though, does need to = be removed ASAP to make room for the new one.   Please contact me at MWORGLBAU@aol.com for the blower or any = additional questions that you may have.     Michael R. Williamson Williamson-Warne & Associates Hollywood Ca.  
(back) Subject: Chimes info From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:13:45 -0800   Slightly off topic but still "organized"   I need to know the worth of a 25 note set of of Mass Rowe Chimes. This is a large set with C at least 5ft, Brass colored and with an electric action with dampers. Any ideas?   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: Chimes info From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:17:46 EST     --part1_13.1eb27ee.292adf0a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/19/2001 4:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes:     > > I need to know the worth of a 25 note set of of Mass Rowe Chimes. > This is a large set with C at least 5ft, Brass colored and with an > electric action with dampers. Any ideas? > >   amazingly enough, this type of thing can be purchased new from rither = Organ Supply or from Peterson E-M Products...   the OSI stuff is Mayland/Deagen...a 25 note set with the action(f.o.b. = Erie PA, therfore NOT installed or inclusive of shipping costs( figure about $100.00 for teh shipping and $300 to 500 for installation) is$2,663 = (Deagen, 25 notes bells,action, wired to relay) or $2,152 (Mayland, same as above)   If you are getting the valuse for insurance purposes, those are the replacement cost.   If you are trying to put a value on them for re-sale purposes, figure = about $250 for the tubes (bells, chimes, whatever) and the action if of little = or no monetary value ($50 on a good day)...I have 2 Maas-rowe 21 note (I = think, they might be 25 notes) stashed away in my parts warehouse strictly for emergency parts scavenging, and one set of bells, tho a couple of the = tubes are cracked and don't ring so well anymore.   Rick in VA   --part1_13.1eb27ee.292adf0a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 11/19/2001 4:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, jovanderlee@vassar.edu = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <BR>I need to know the worth of a 25 note set of of Mass Rowe Chimes. <BR>This is a large set with C at least 5ft, Brass colored and with an <BR>electric action with dampers. &nbsp;Any ideas? <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>amazingly enough, this type of thing can be purchased new from rither = Organ Supply or from Peterson E-M Products... <BR> <BR>the OSI stuff is Mayland/Deagen...a 25 note set with the action(f.o.b. = Erie PA, therfore NOT installed or inclusive of shipping costs( figure = about $100.00 for teh shipping and $300 to 500 for installation) is$2,663 = (Deagen, 25 notes bells,action, wired to relay) or $2,152 (Mayland, same = as above) <BR> <BR>If you are getting the valuse for insurance purposes, those are the = replacement cost. <BR> <BR>If you are trying to put a value on them for re-sale purposes, figure = about $250 for the tubes (bells, chimes, whatever) and the action if of = little or no monetary value ($50 on a good day)...I have 2 Maas-rowe 21 = note (I think, they might be 25 notes) stashed away in my parts warehouse = strictly for emergency parts scavenging, and one set of bells, tho a = couple of the tubes are cracked and don't ring so well anymore. <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_13.1eb27ee.292adf0a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Open Console experience From: "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:22:21 -0600   Great idea! This semester I've played twice for my Harmony III class, = first a P&F by Fischer, then today a harmonization I did of a Turlough = O'Carolan melody. One of the guys, a talented pianist and budding = composer, stood beside me today and watched my feet with fascination. = Another classmate, a soprano, has decided to take organ lessons next = semester out of pure curiosity. It doesn't take much to spark interest in = the organ, the instrument does it by itself. The trick is exposing people = to the organ. Sounds like you've found a terrific way of getting young = people interested in our instrument!   All the best, Mandy      
(back) Subject: Re: buffalo, NY From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:09:12 -0500   On Monday, November 19th, Paul Emmons wrote:   "Doesn't the Episcopal Cathedral (St. Paul's?) have a Schlicker in front = and a Hope-Jones in back? Something interesting like that.   Although, like many, it may have its ups and downs, the men and boys' = choir, too, is one of the finest and most famous in America. I wouldn't miss an opportunity to hear them. Upstate New York used to be noteworthy for its Episcopal boychoirs. Alas, today this and the one in All Saints' = Cathedral, Albany are all that remain."   From one who grew up in the area and began organ lessons at St. Paul's,   St. Paul's Cathedral also has an outstanding Girl's Choir. As for the = organ situation - Schlicker in front and pipes of a Hope-Jones in back with Schlicker en-chamade. All are played from a four-manual console in the chancel.   Also, there is a beautiful recently restored Hook in St. Joseph's = Cathedral which is about a block away from St. Paul's in the downtown area. Do not miss hearing this gem!   Trinity Episcopal Church on Delaware Avenue has three Schlickers: The = main instrument is located in the balcony and a smaller portion in the chancel with two consoles able to play them separately or together. Then there is = a two manuel instrument in the chapel.   Westminster Presbyterian Church, also on Delaware Avenue, has a 4-manual Aeolian-Skinner.   Not far from Westminster Presbyterian is Temple Beth El with an = interesting instrument. I believe that a portion of the organ came from a theater and maybe Brian Fahey can help me out on this one.   First Presbyterian Church, located on Symphony Circle across from = Kleinhans Music Hall, home of the Buffalo Philharmonic, has a Noehren with a = suspended Postive.   Holy Trinity Lutheran Church on Main Street has the monster instrument = that was mentioned in an earlier posting.   Church of the Ascension has a wonderful Kimball and I believe that they = are in the midst of slowly restoring this gem.   A few of these churches have websites and you can get more information by using a search engine such as google. I do know that St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral, St. Joseph's Roman Catholic Cathedral and Church of the = Ascension (Episcopal) have websites.   Also, if you are planning to visit the area, try to see Our Lady of = Victory Basilica in Lackawanna. I don't believe that the instrument is any great gem but the Basilica sure is.   I'm sure that other "chatters" can add more to this list.   One piece of advice - visit Buffalo before the snow flies! :-)   Cheers,   Bonnie Beth   Bonnie Beth Derby, B.Mus., M.Mus. Organist & Director of Music, St. James Roman Catholic Church, Syracuse [1988 Odell/Kerner & Merchant 33-rank tracker organ] Producer & Host: "Orgelwerke" & "Choral Traditions", WCNY-FM, 91.3, Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown; Website: www.wcny.org e-mail: orge@dreamscape.com          
(back) Subject: clipart help (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:05:42 -0800   I need a source of HIGH-QUALITY (preferably medieval) religious clipart .... anybody have any ideas? I have searched high and low, but the stuff I want is copyrighted and can't be reproduced.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: clipart help (X-posted) From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:10:40 EST   Bud, www.grsites.com They have anything and everything there is and ever was available for free =   download... Thanks Josh  
(back) Subject: Re: Working with People who know it all... From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:12:26 EST   it strikes me that the person criticizing you was attacking you on practically all fronts at once. it is certainly reasonable for choir = members to make suggestions, but he was really having a go at you. maybe it would = be wise to find out why he wants to tear you apart so bad. people usually = just have one or two issues (at least, at one time) that bug them. merry  
(back) Subject: Clip art.... From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:14:29 EST   www.grsites.com They have a category for Medieval, but I think that the Religious category =   has more of what you might be looking for... Thanks Josh  
(back) Subject: Re: Chimes info From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:39:58 EST     --part1_162.427e46f.292b005e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi All......   To add my two cents worth, Mass Rowe is alive and well in Escondido, CA = and I think that they could also provide a new set just like the old. As to value, I would think that the mentioned $250.00 is about right.   Bill Hesterman   --part1_162.427e46f.292b005e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3>Hi All......<BR> <BR> To add my two cents worth,&nbsp; Mass Rowe is alive and well in Escondido, = CA and I think that they could also provide a new set just like the = old.&nbsp; As to value, I would think that the mentioned $250.00 is about = right.<BR> <BR> Bill Hesterman</FONT></HTML>   --part1_162.427e46f.292b005e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Gainesville Fisk From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:43:41 EST     --part1_109.8e00ccb.292b013d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Saw the organ today. Sadly the facade is up! Ratz.... I was hoping to = get a photo of the case with interior pipes but no facade. Such is life. = They were doing tuning with a machine -- GASP -- that is visual rather than = aural! so that all that is heard is the note being tuned. It was somewhat = strange. The stop was the 4' flute on the positive. It was nice and full, = colorful and rich, and sounded loud at the console but not out in the nave. There = is a slight drop in sound level when you step out of the chancel; the nave is =   amazingly equal throughout. It's a very nice room.   The organ is very handsome and roomy. Accessibility seems to have been a =   consideration all around. A really interesting aspect was the part of = the case above the console which hold the music rack. It pulls forward and props up much like the awning on a "roach coach"!!! (hotdog wagon). The workmanship is exquisite.   The flues are in with the exception of the mixtures. The reeds will be added later. Geez.... I'm starting to get attached to this company!! = ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_109.8e00ccb.292b013d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Saw the organ today. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Sadly the facade is up! &nbsp;&nbsp;Ratz.... I was hoping to = get a photo of the case with interior pipes but no facade. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Such is life. &nbsp;&nbsp;They were doing tuning with a = machine -- GASP -- that is visual rather than aural! so that all that is = heard is the note being tuned. &nbsp;&nbsp;It was somewhat strange. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The stop was the 4' flute on the positive. &nbsp;It was = nice and full, colorful and rich, and sounded loud at the console but not = out in the nave. &nbsp;&nbsp;There is a slight drop in sound level when = you step out of the chancel; the nave is amazingly equal throughout. = &nbsp;It's a very nice room. <BR> <BR>The organ is very handsome and roomy. &nbsp;&nbsp;Accessibility seems = to have been a consideration all around. &nbsp;&nbsp;A really interesting = aspect was the &nbsp;part of the case above the console which hold the = music rack. &nbsp;&nbsp;It pulls forward and props up much like the awning = on a "roach coach"!!! (hotdog wagon). &nbsp;&nbsp;The workmanship is = exquisite. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>The flues are in with the exception of the mixtures. &nbsp;&nbsp;The = reeds will be added later. &nbsp;&nbsp;Geez.... I'm starting to get = attached to this company!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_109.8e00ccb.292b013d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: clipart help (X-posted) From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:17:13 -0800   You could try the following:   http://www.mediacom.org.au/subs/mcsub2.html   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > I need a source of HIGH-QUALITY (preferably medieval) religious clipart >    
(back) Subject: Re: Working with People who know it all... From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:31:49 -0600   The stop concerned was the Aeoline. The story is variously told of Ernest M. Skinner, Richard O. Whitelegg (tonal director of Moller), and Virgil = Fox (to voicer Gil Adams when organist of Riverside Church). It is probably = true of all three -- it is the sort of thing that people say to their voicers.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: RE: Working with People who know it all...     > This reminds me of two anecdotes about E.M. Skinner finishing organs. > > 1. He was sitting at the console while a voicer was starting to work on = a > very quiet stop in the echo division. > > As he held a note, he couldn't hear it and called out, "Is it playing?" > When he heard voicer replying that it was, he ordered, "Well, make it > softer."      
(back) Subject: Re: buffalo, NY From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:34:26 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: RE: buffalo, NY     > Doesn't the Episcopal Cathedral (St. Paul's?) have a Schlicker in front and > a Hope-Jones in back? Something interesting like that.   Yes, I was there last summer. They have recently done a very nice job of goldleafing the interior of the cathedral, including the organ case.   John Speller          
(back) Subject: Re: buffalo, NY From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:27:27 EST   Gary, write to Covenant77. She is organist at a Lutheran church there. = Lee