PipeChat Digest #2525 - Friday, November 30, 2001
 
Holiday Shopping Suggestions from the AGO
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: mixtures and Alice in Mixtureland
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: mixtures and Alice in Mixtureland
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Organ/choirmaster position
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
New Sheet Music
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
free Resiner relay, near San Francisco
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2523 - 11/29/01
  by "Ken Earl" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com>
Mixtures, Brustwerks, and History
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
scrambled eggs and werkprinzip
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2523 - 11/29/01
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
HAMMOND (?) ON NOKIA COMMERCIAL
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
sorting it all out
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re:  Mixtures - stupid question
  by "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com>
MIDI with Organ Solo
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Mixtures, Brustwerks, and History
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Theatre Organ CDs
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Computer Virus
  by "Audrey Jacobsen" <AJ1995@home.com>
Re:  Mixtures - stupid question
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: scrambled eggs and werkprinzip
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Mixtures, Brustwerks, and History
  by "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Holiday Shopping Suggestions from the AGO From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 06:22:36 -0600   The following was sent to me asking that I post it on the list.   David ****************************************************************** Dear Friends,   This holiday season we invite you to take advantage of the Guild's educational resources and special AGO signature items for your holiday shopping needs. These items have been developed over the years with the intent of providing members with essential resources that are unavailable elsewhere. This year we have several new items that would make marvelous gifts for musicians of all ages.   "The Organists' Book of Days," which was temporarily out-of-stock, is again available for sale. The AGO created this handsome and informative illustrated chronicle as part of the AGO centennial celebration, and it has been a top seller ever since.   This year the AGO Committee on Educational Resources issued the first volume of the Guild's new video archive, "The Master Series." The project is designed to showcase famous organists and gifted teachers. The subject of Vol. I is Catharine Crozier. The 84-minute videotape includes footage of her performing and teaching an organ masterclass in her 86th year. Also new this year is a delightful biography of AGO past president Roberta Bitgood entitled "Swell to Great." It's Roberta's life in her own words with pictures and reminiscences from her own scrapbook. These three selections are all $25 and under.   Also available are such perennially popular items as AGO Sweatshirts (in burgundy with white crest or grey with burgundy crest), AGO tee shirts, signature mugs (grey with burgundy crest), "A Young Person's Guide to the Pipe Organ," the video "Pulling Out All the Stops - the Pipe Organ in America" and magazine slipcases to help you or the organist in your life to bring order to that collection of TAO Magazines.   Take a look at the items above and all of the educational resources in our online store at http://www.agohq.org, or order by calling toll-free 800-AGO-5115. Remember, AGO members receive a 10% discount on all purchases, and all sales go to support the work of the Guild.   Cordially,   James E. Thomashower Executive Director AGO -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: mixtures and Alice in Mixtureland From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:55:44 -0800   >Did you get my email the other day when I asked if it might be possible = to >buy your mixture from you? This hard-up retired Anglican vicar in New >Zealand hath a mighty need of a Mixture stop to complete his pipe >collection, to be an organ next year. >Ross Wards   Yes I did Ross,   The thing is we had it slated to be sold on eBay. Before you think that this is cold and uncaring, let me explain. We are a volunteer group renovating a pipe organ (Wurlitzer) to be installed in a high school auditorium. There is lots of kids' and staff involvement and much enthusiasm. What is lacking is $$ as this is a no cost to the school project. We raise funds partially by collecting and reselling surplus and orphan organ parts. I'm sure you get the picture by now. We need to get max. $$ for our stuff as our expenses still exceed our funds. A mixture is a popular item. what prompted my questions is that I rather not offer it for sale until I know how complete it is.   I hope this makes sense and you understand?   Best   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: mixtures and Alice in Mixtureland From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:10:51 -0800   sorry , people. last note was meant to go to Ross only.   but now at least you all understand our need to get this sorted out.   John V  
(back) Subject: Organ/choirmaster position From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:47:17 -0500       Dear List:   I have been asked by a priest friend to make you aware of a position in Beaufort SC. St. Peters RC Church is looking for a full time organist and =   choirmaster. There is a school and I am not aware of the exact details of =   the position. However if anyone is looking, I can provide contact informaiton.   I have visited there several times, and It is a fine, quickly growing parish. A new building is in the works and an organ may come of it as = well. The current intsrument is a 2 yr old Gallanti. Nothing to write home about but I do suspect a better instrumet is in the offing.   Let me know if your interested:   Craig Kesner Director of Music BUMC     _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp    
(back) Subject: New Sheet Music From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:32:31 -0500   About 200 new items of sheet music have been added to the printed OHS Catalog, which will be mailed next week if all goes well. All of the new sheet music in the printed catalog and more besides are now (at last, as = of this afternoon) available at http://www.ohscatalog.org   Among the new things are:   David Briggs' transcription of Pierre Cochereau's improvisation on Alouet= te, gentille Alouette   Two new Dover editions by Rollin Smith: 1. Organ Music for Manuals which include 33 unusual pieces by composers s= uch as Hector Berlioz, Nadia Boulanger, Gigout, Gli=E8re, Rossini, Reger, Chausson, etc. 2. Handel Concertos, Op. 4, a reprint of the W. T. Best edition with note= s by Rollin Smith   David Dahl's splendid "Hymn Interpretations" (located in the online sheet music department titled "Hymn Accompaniments, Introductions, Harmonizatio= ns, Last Verses, etc.")   The new B=E4renreiter editions of the Bach organ works and the Buxtehude = organ works, as well as many other titles from this fine publisher   Charles Callahan: Lots of things   Wilbur Held: Lots of things   Alexandre Guilmant: L'Organiste Lithurgique, Op. 65, in 6 books and Urtex= t editions of the Sonatas as well as a Dover edition of them.   Jean Francaix: Suite Carmelite   Please take a look          
(back) Subject: free Resiner relay, near San Francisco From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:49:10 -0800 (PST)   I have a used Resiner relay that we are not using in our project it = controls six ranks/stops (one a 16-8-4-2 unit) and a 21 note set of chimes.   In good condition, but will need some cleaning and minor adjustment of a = few contacts. If you are interested, reply by email and make arrangements to come and get it. I = can't ship. It fit in the trunk of my sedan (with the rear seatbacks folded down for extra room.)     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry, Director of Music & Organist Mona Dena, Principal Choir Director The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2523 - 11/29/01 From: "Ken Earl" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:32:42 -0000   In PipeChat Dih=3Dgest \2523 "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote >>   >>Get off the grass!<<   How I love it when someone pipes up with an 'expert' opinionated example = in response to a suggested hypothetical example.   Doesn't matter what the subject matter is, but this type of response gets under my skin!!!   Define 'Brustwerk' - literal translation is 'Breastwork' ie - the section = of the organ located in the breast of the instrument, and "usually" = containing the loudest principal chorus of the organ.   To this, all other 'werk' departments are subservient.   I would love to see a typical German Ruckpositif ('rear' or 'back' = positif), hanging over a gallery rail, which is based upon an 8' principal. I don't think steel support structures were in general use in the 1600's!!!!   KE    
(back) Subject: Mixtures, Brustwerks, and History From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:54:08 EST   The amount of abject misinformation about mixtures, organ history, and Brustwerks being thrown about on this list is appalling. Please, people, research your facts before you post them as gospel; too many people are being misinformed, which is contrary to the mission and purpose of this = list.  
(back) Subject: scrambled eggs and werkprinzip From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:11:37 -0800   I've been ill, so I haven't really been paying that much attention, but = this thread has gotten SO scrambled ...   The werkprinzip concept is more flexible than modern = neo-(north)-German-baroque builders have made it out to be.   Historically, a two-manual organ could consist of:   I.   Upper Manual - Hauptwerk, based on an 8' Prinzipal Lower Manual - Rueckpositiv, based on a 4' Prinzipal Pedal - based on a 16' Prinzipal, or an 8' Prinzipal with a 5 1/3' Quint = to produce a resultant 16' Prinzipal   II.   Upper Manual - Oberwerk, based on a 4' Prinzipal Lower Manual - Hauptwerk, based on an 8' Prinzipal Pedal - as above   III.   Upper Manual - Brustwerk, based on a 4' or 2' Prinzipal Lower Manual - Haupwerk, based on an 8' Prinzipal Pedal - as above   Or, the Oberwerk may be designed as the main division, and be paired with = a Rueckpositiv or a Brustwerk.   Similarly, a three-manual organ could be:   I.   Upper Manual - Brustwerk, based on a 4' or 2' Prinzipal Middle Manual - Hauptwerk, based on an 8' or a 16' Prinzipal Lower Manual - Rueckpositiv, based on a 4' or an 8' Prinzipal Pedal - based on a 16' or 32' Prinzipal, or a 16' Prinzipal + a 10 2/3' = Quinte   II.   Upper Manual - Oberwerk, based on a 4' Prinzipal Middle Manual - Hauptwerk, based on an 8' or 16' Prinzipal Lower Manual - Rueckpositiv, based on a 4' or an 8' Prinzipal Pedal - as above   III.   Upper Manual - Brustwerk, based on a 4' or a 2' Prinzipal Middle Manual - Oberwerk, based on an 8' or a 4' Prinzipal Lower Manual - Hauptwerk, based on an 8' or 16' Prinzipal Pedal - as above   Etc., etc. etc.   There ARE historical examples of Rueckpositivs based on 8' Prinzipals ... = I've never heard the argument of structural supports used before ... some of = those cases are quite large and magnificent, and they've managed to stay in = place for hundreds of years; I cannot recall ANY historical examples where the = BRUSTWERK is the PRINCIPAL manual division.   There are also MANY historical examples (even Schnitgers) of organs having = more than one manual division based on a prinzipal of the SAME pitch. It would = seem the rule was broken as much as it was kept. In those cases, I think it = would be more to the point to look at the relative pitches of the MIXTURES.   Also, one should not overlook the SPATIAL relationships ... a 4' Oberwerk = ABOVE the Hauptwerk is going to sound VERY different from a 4' Rueckpositiv = BELOW and IN FRONT OF the main case, EVEN THOUGH they might both be based upon a 4' prinzipal. Likewise, a 4' or 2' Brustwerk BELOW the Hauptwerk (and = partially blocked from speaking directly down the nave by the Rueckpositiv case, if = there is one) is going to produce yet ANOTHER effect ... what often takes the = top of the organist's HEAD off at the keydesk can be QUITE mild downstairs.   Cheers,   Bud          
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2523 - 11/29/01 From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:33:12 +1300   Ken, No, you are still wrong. The Brustwerk is not the greatest Principal = chorus in the organ. That is the Hauptwerk, or "head work" if you must. Even if there is no Hauptwerk but an Oberwerk instead, the Brustwerk would still = be subservient in numbers of ranks and chorus scalings. As for 8ft Principals in the ruck position, they've been there for centuries. Take a look at Luneburg in 1550, St Maria Danzig in 1585, = Rostock 1593, Lubeck 1600, Buckeburg 1615, Leipzig 1618, etc.etc. I'm with you on one point - I'm sure there were no steel structures to support them. If this gets under your skin, well and good, I hope it stays there and becomes fact to you. It is not opinion and has been known even in England for many years - refer, for example to Hopkins & Rimbault in the = mid-1800s, Abdy Willams in 1903 and so on. Any list of specifications will show you what each division generally does, and a Brust division does not dominate = in Principal choruses. Another aggressive reply (but assuring you I am only aggressive when facts are wrong, not when things are open to opinion). :-) :-) Kind regards, Ross -----Original Message----- From: Ken Earl <ken_earl01@hotmail.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, December 01, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2523 - 11/29/01     >In PipeChat Dih=3Dgest \2523 "Ross & Lynda Wards" = <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> >wrote >> > >>>Get off the grass!<< > >How I love it when someone pipes up with an 'expert' opinionated example = in >response to a suggested hypothetical example. > >Doesn't matter what the subject matter is, but this type of response gets >under my skin!!! > >Define 'Brustwerk' - literal translation is 'Breastwork' ie - the section of >the organ located in the breast of the instrument, and "usually" = containing >the loudest principal chorus of the organ. > >To this, all other 'werk' departments are subservient. > >I would love to see a typical German Ruckpositif ('rear' or 'back' positif), >hanging over a gallery rail, which is based upon an 8' principal. I = don't >think steel support structures were in general use in the 1600's!!!! > >KE > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: HAMMOND (?) ON NOKIA COMMERCIAL From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:46:21 EST     --part1_167.4cf634e.2939663d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Does anyone know which recording provided the "Jingle Bells" track heard = on the new Christmas Nokia Cell Phone commercial? It is sort of that funky, happy, laid back, happy "jazzy" sound with sleigh bells in the background. = I would love to get a copy of that recording, there must be other goodies on = it as well.   Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.   Scott F   --part1_167.4cf634e.2939663d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Does anyone know which = recording provided the "Jingle Bells" track heard on the new Christmas = Nokia Cell Phone commercial? &nbsp;It is sort of that funky, happy, laid = back, happy "jazzy" sound with sleigh bells in the background. &nbsp;I = would love to get a copy of that recording, there must be other goodies on = it as well. <BR> <BR>Anyone have any ideas? <BR>Thanks in advance. <BR> <BR>Scott F</FONT></HTML>   --part1_167.4cf634e.2939663d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: sorting it all out From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:53:01 -0800   Might some of the confusion arise from this:   Some Brustwerks contain a stop named "Holzprinzipal" at 8' pitch ... if I'm not mistaken, that's approximately equivalent to its English Swell organ cousin: "Stopt Diapason", a stopped wooden FLUTE.   Now, granted, there ARE some examples of wooden open PRINCIPAL pipes to be found in the period, but aren't they relatively exceptional?   As the Positiv developed from the small moveable Portativs, didn't the Brustwerk develop from the even smaller portable Regals?   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures - stupid question From: "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:29:36 -0800 (PST)   A number of years ago I got to play a rather nice organ at an episco-parlour in Brooklyn. It was built by a local builder with a rather spotty record (including PRISON) but I digress....   Outside of two positiv flutes that you would kill your mother for, the 8' being a holz-spitzgedekt that had formerly resided in the pedal (!) it had a repeating zimbel of of three ranks that stood at the front of a wall mounted chest. The interesting thing was that it was absolutely identical through every octave from bottom to top with the breaks occuring at different points for each rank. It made me think that if someone were building on the cheap, why not just use 36 pipes and wire it up to repeat right on up??? I suppose there would be voicing issues in the different ranges, but on a little unit organ, maybe it could be made to work, or just a little bell-like sparkle to reside on top of a couple of regular mixtures. Would the relays and such cost more than the pipes needed? Just a silly question that has nagged. Has anyone ever tried this?   Ken   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Kenneth Potter, Organist/Director of Music St. Peter's Episcopal Church, Westchester Square, Bronx, NY 845/358-2528 <swell_shades@yahoo.com>, Austin Op. 2097 at: = http://www.nycago.org/Organs/html/StPetersEpBronx.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: MIDI with Organ Solo From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:39:06 -0500   It has been suggested that I post a notice about this....   We know of a number of organists who are being pushed off the bench in favor of MIDI instruments. It is easy to say that they are not providing the kind of music that people want today and so on, but in many churches the problem seems to be that the MIDI instruments are neat and cool and the organ just doesn't fit in with them.   Sometimes there can be a compromise in which everybody wins and the organist and the MIDI people can get along and so on.   In that light, I've been told that I should let you know that in the interest of churches stuck with the midi/organ conflict we have created a set of 12 Carols for Organ Solo with MIDI Orchestration.   The organ score is 68 pages long and comes on a CD-ROM with a floppy of the SMF MIDI files to hand to your MIDI Guru.   Will this work and be useful for you? Don't know. For that reason there is a money back guarantee.   For more information, see "An Angelic Christmas" at www.frogmusic.com   Thanks for taking time to read this, and note that the dreaded "V" word was not mentioned once!   noel jones gedeckt@usit.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures, Brustwerks, and History From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:29:25 EST     --part1_149.583994b.29397e65_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/30/01 4:54:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:     > The amount of abject misinformation about mixtures, organ history, and > Brustwerks being thrown about on this list is appalling. Please, = people, > research your facts before you post them as gospel; too many people are =   > being misinformed, which is contrary to the mission and purpose of this > list. >   There are people of all levels of training and knowledge on the list. = Some people might have been taught things erroneously in the past, and by = having them KINDLY corrected on the list the mission and purpose of this list IS fulfilled. The patience and kindness of those "in the know" would be greatly helpful and appreciated.   By "blowing someone out of the water" we are all often deprived of helping = a newbie organ student.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_149.583994b.29397e65_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 11/30/01 4:54:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The amount of = abject misinformation about mixtures, organ history, and <BR>Brustwerks being thrown about on this list is appalling. &nbsp;Please, = people, <BR>research your facts before you post them as gospel; &nbsp;too many = people are <BR>being misinformed, which is contrary to the mission and purpose of = this list. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>There are people of all levels of training and knowledge on the list. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Some people might have been taught things erroneously in the = past, and by having them KINDLY corrected on the list the mission and = purpose of this list IS fulfilled. &nbsp;&nbsp;The patience and kindness = of those "in the know" would be greatly helpful and appreciated. <BR> <BR>By "blowing someone out of the water" we are all often deprived of = helping a newbie organ student. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_149.583994b.29397e65_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Theatre Organ CDs From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:44:18 -0500   Fifteen new theatre organ CDs are up on the OHS Catalog website, http://www.ohscatalog.org. Several are at the bottom of the opening page, and all of the new ones may be seen by clicking on the red "recordings" button at the left, then clicking on the link to the page for recordings = of Theatre Organs, Band Organs, Automatons, etc.   Players on the new CDs include Ron Rhode (Music, Music, Music), Lyn Larsen (Good News), George Wright (two new CDs), Jelani Eddington (Fascinating Rhythms), Clark Wilson (at the Ohio), Brett Valliant, Chris McPhee, Bob Salisbury, Sidney Torch, John Cook, Len Rawle (on the Moller installed at the Laukhuff factory in Germany), and more.   Bill    
(back) Subject: Computer Virus From: "Audrey Jacobsen" <AJ1995@home.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:33:21 -0800   For the third day, I am loosing emails (new and saved-old messages). I just had 28 new messages disappear.   1. Is this a characteristic of the virus discussed this week?   2. What can I do to get rid of it?   Thanking everyone in advance for a reply (especially if I actually get to read it!)   Audrey Jacobsen  
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures - stupid question From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:51:21 -0600   At 03:29 PM 11/30/01 -0800, Ken wrote: <snip> >it had a repeating zimbel of of three ranks that stood at the front of >a wall mounted chest. The interesting thing was that it was absolutely >identical through every octave from bottom to top with the breaks >occuring at different points for each rank. It made me think that if >someone were building on the cheap, why not just use 36 pipes and wire >it up to repeat right on up??? I suppose there would be voicing issues >in the different ranges, but on a little unit organ, maybe it could be >made to work, or just a little bell-like sparkle to reside on top of a >couple of regular mixtures. Would the relays and such cost more than >the pipes needed? Just a silly question that has nagged. Has anyone >ever tried this?   Yes Ken -- unfortunately, they've tried it. <g>   The results usually speak for themselves (bad pun), such that anyone that has ever heard such a mixture will know exactly *why* they don't want to ever hear another one.... ;-)   Cheers --   Tim          
(back) Subject: Re: scrambled eggs and werkprinzip From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:35:46 -0500   ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: scrambled eggs and werkprinzip     > > There ARE historical examples of Rueckpositivs based on 8' Prinzipals = ... I've > never heard the argument of structural supports used before ... some of those > cases are quite large and magnificent, and they've managed to stay in place for > hundreds of years; I cannot recall ANY historical examples where the BRUSTWERK > is the PRINCIPAL manual division. > For the record, the Ruckpositif at St. Ignatius Loyola in NY is based on = an 8' Montre (and of course, the Great is very firmly based on a 16' = Montre!). On more than one occasion, I have sat under the Ruckpositif without fear!   Weekend Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler      
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures, Brustwerks, and History From: "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:37:37 -0500   Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/30/01 4:54:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, > TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > > The amount of abject misinformation about mixtures, organ > history, and > Brustwerks being thrown about on this list is appalling. > Please, people, > research your facts before you post them as gospel; too > many people are > being misinformed, which is contrary to the mission and > purpose of this list. Amen and amen. Thank you, Bruce.>   > There are people of all levels of training and knowledge on the list. > Some people might have been taught things erroneously in the past, > and by having them KINDLY corrected on the list the mission and > purpose of this list IS fulfilled. The patience and kindness of > those "in the know" would be greatly helpful and appreciated. > > By "blowing someone out of the water" we are all often deprived of > helping a newbie organ student. > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > and wander through the Mall Without Walls