PipeChat Digest #2419 - Saturday, October 6, 2001
 
tracker action sqeak boxes
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Macintosh Performa 6300  Computer -  off topic reply
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Organs in or near Ann Arbor, Michigan?
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: tracker action sqeak boxes
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Macintosh Performa 6300  Computer -  off topic reply
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Re: AGO, amateurs, credentials, etc.
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: Macintosh Performa 6300  Computer -  off topic reply
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Re: Macintosh Performa 6300  Computer -  off topic reply
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Amateurs paving the way for professionals ?????
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Re: tracker action sqeak boxes
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Re: tracker action sqeak boxes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Chris McPhee Plays Rochester Wurlitzer on Oct. 13 (cross-posted)
  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: tracker action sqeak boxes From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 07:42:14 EDT     --part1_16b.1f4f0b9.28f04816_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dea List and Bruce-   Bruce wrote: >Not to question your choice of words, or cast aspersions on your good manners, >but "tracker action squeak boxes," does not endear you to = anyone!   Just so I'm not accused of being a tracker-basher....LOL In the town where I work as a funeral director (Cheraw, SC...."The = prettiest town in Dixie" according to all their signs) the 1st Presbyterian Church = has a wonderful Kney tracker from the mid 1980's. While I stll prefer e-p action, this organ is one of the most fun organs I've ever played. It has = a very crisp, yet light, action, and a full, silvery chorus. The strings on = it fill the room with a sound that just blooms. I've played it in rectial = and also for several services. One thing that I commend Kney for doing is = having a swell box that actually closes down the swell division and when open = lets all the sound out because the shutters open to a 90 degree angle. Also, = this organ has general and divisional pistons with 8 level SSL system. That's = the kind of tracker I like to play. It's got all the modern conveniences and sounds fantastic in the room. It's also in a gorgeous freestanding case = that speaks down the center of the room. If any one is ever through the area, please let me know and I can make arrangements for you to see and play the =   organ. The church is very proud of the instrument and loves to have = people stop by and see/play it. So see.....I'm not against trackers, just the thin, screechy, neo-baroque, =   grate on the ears voicing that so many tracker builders were famous for.   Monty Bennett         --part1_16b.1f4f0b9.28f04816_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dea List and Bruce- <BR> <BR>Bruce wrote: <BR>&gt;Not to question your choice of words, or cast aspersions on your = good manners, &gt;but "tracker action squeak boxes," does not endear you = to anyone! <BR> <BR>Just so I'm not accused of being a tracker-basher....LOL <BR>In the town where I work as a funeral director (Cheraw, SC...."The = prettiest town in Dixie" according to all their signs) the 1st = Presbyterian Church has a wonderful Kney tracker from the mid 1980's. = &nbsp;While I stll prefer e-p action, this organ is one of the most fun = organs I've ever played. &nbsp;It has a very crisp, yet light, action, and = a full, silvery chorus. &nbsp;The strings on it fill the room with a sound = that just blooms. &nbsp;I've played it in rectial and also for several = services. &nbsp;One thing that I commend Kney for doing is having a swell = box that actually closes down the swell division and when open lets all = the sound out because the shutters open to a 90 degree angle. &nbsp;Also, = this organ has general and divisional pistons with 8 level SSL system. = &nbsp;That's the kind of tracker I like to play. &nbsp;It's got all the = modern conveniences and sounds fantastic in the room. &nbsp;It's also in a = gorgeous freestanding case that speaks down the center of the roo <BR>So see.....I'm not against trackers, just the thin, screechy, = neo-baroque, grate on the ears voicing that so many tracker builders were = famous for. <BR> <BR>Monty Bennett <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_16b.1f4f0b9.28f04816_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Macintosh Performa 6300 Computer - off topic reply From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 08:35:18 EDT     --part1_fd.d2cb64c.28f05486_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/6/2001 12:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, patian@senet.com.au writes:     > > The battery (back-up) for the clock has gone flat. It's a Rayvac, Part = No > 841, Alkaline, 4.8 volts, made in U.S.A. The price in South Australia, = from > Macintosh dealers, is quoted at $40 (AU) for a genuine Macintosh spare = part! > There's got to be a less-expensive replacement. I hope! >   Sad to say, but you can buy a WHOLE performa computer for $40.00 us in = these parts. I got one last year for $50 inclusive of the monitor!!   Rick in VA   --part1_fd.d2cb64c.28f05486_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/6/2001 12:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, patian@senet.com.au writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <BR>The battery (back-up) for the clock has gone flat. It's a Rayvac, Part = No <BR>841, Alkaline, 4.8 volts, made in U.S.A. The price in South Australia, = from <BR>Macintosh dealers, is quoted at $40 (AU) for a genuine Macintosh spare = part! <BR>There's got to be a less-expensive replacement. I hope! <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Sad to say, but you can buy a WHOLE performa computer for $40.00 us in = these parts. I got &nbsp;one last year for $50 inclusive of the monitor!! <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_fd.d2cb64c.28f05486_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organs in or near Ann Arbor, Michigan? From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 08:38:49 EDT     --part1_17.1c932ecf.28f05559_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/5/2001 8:28:13 PM Central Daylight Time, tommylee@whitlock.org writes:     > I will be in Ann Arbor on business for a week starting October 8.   First Pres has a brand new Schoenstein.   Steven Skinner First PresbyterianChurch of the Covenant Erie, PA   --part1_17.1c932ecf.28f05559_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/5/2001 8:28:13 PM Central Daylight Time, tommylee@whitlock.org writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I will be in Ann = Arbor on business for a week starting October 8. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>First Pres has a brand new Schoenstein. <BR> <BR>Steven Skinner <BR>First PresbyterianChurch of the Covenant <BR>Erie, PA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_17.1c932ecf.28f05559_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: tracker action sqeak boxes From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 08:48:45 EDT     --part1_d8.cfa864f.28f057ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/6/2001 7:43:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = RMB10@aol.com writes:     > . One thing that I commend Kney for doing is having a swell box that > actually closes down the swell division and when open lets all the sound =   >   I don't know this organ personally, but I would venture to say that the design of the swell box has more to do with the full range of expression. = A box that is High, Wide, and Shallow with shutters covering the WHOLE front = of the box is (generally speaking) going to allow for a full range of expressiveness (contrast of ppp to FFF) rather than the fact that the shutters open to a full 90 degrees. It does not seem - in my limited = 20-some years of organ related work - that you get very much more sound out of the =   box once the shutters have opened more than about 45 to 50 degrees...deepending on the shutter design (shape, thickness, etc.). There =   can be some effect of "direction" depending on the position of the shades = and where they are located in relationship to the listener, and this may = account for some of the >perception< that 90 degree-opening shades allow more = sound to pass.   of COURSE, this is just my opinion...     Rick in VA   --part1_d8.cfa864f.28f057ad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/6/2001 7:43:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. &nbsp;One thing = that I commend Kney for doing is having a swell box that actually closes = down the swell division and when open lets all the sound out because the = shutters open to a 90 degree angle. </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I don't know this organ personally, but I would venture to say that = the design of the swell box has more to do with the full range of = expression. A box that is High, Wide, and Shallow with shutters covering = the WHOLE front of the box is (generally speaking) going to allow for a = full range of expressiveness (contrast of ppp to FFF) rather than the fact = that the shutters open to a full 90 degrees. It does not seem - in my = limited 20-some years of organ related work - that you get very much more = sound out of the box once the shutters have opened more than about 45 to = 50 &nbsp;degrees...deepending on the shutter design (shape, thickness, = etc.). There can be some effect of "direction" depending on the position = of the shades and where they are located in relationship to the listener, = and this may account for some of the &gt;perception&lt; that 90 = degree-opening shades allow more sound to pass. <BR> <BR>of COURSE, this is just my opinion... <BR> <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d8.cfa864f.28f057ad_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Macintosh Performa 6300 Computer - off topic reply From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 09:15:59 -0400   According to the Rayovac website, the 841 battery is also interchangable with the 840 and 844. See the link below:   http://www.rayovac.com/busoem/oem/specs/clock5a.shtml   Their corporate locations can be seen at:   http://www.rayovac.com/about/info/com_loc.shtml   I'm sure one of these corporate offices can direct you to a consumer retailer that can help you out.   Hope this information helps out a little bit....    
(back) Subject: Re: AGO, amateurs, credentials, etc. From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 08:20:08 -0500   I very much enjoyed Glenda's post and it certainly went right to the heart =   of the issue. Something that must be realized is that the terms professional and amatuer to not indicate the measure of the individuals talent and ability. An amatuer is someone who performs for the love of doing it. A professional is someone who is fortunate in having someone pay =   for that performance. I've known many amatuers who can play rings around some highly paid professionals. Academic credentials are often used as a measurement of whether someone gets the job...a doctorate can often spell some lousy playing, but got the individual through the door and onto the = bench.   jch an observer who is neither talented or learned    
(back) Subject: Re: Macintosh Performa 6300 Computer - off topic reply From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 09:35:38 -0400   A cursory search of the internet using a search engine and the term = "rayovac 841" turned up a few websites that sell that battery or the compatable replacement. One such site quoted a price of $16.00!! Follow the link on the left hand side to Clock/CMOS RAM and scroll down until you find your computer and the battery listed.   http://www.resource800.com/   The above company will ship to Australia or anywhere that FEDEX or UPS = goes but do expect to pay a good price for the shipping.       "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" wrote:   > According to the Rayovac website, the 841 battery is also interchangable > with the 840 and 844. See the link below: > > http://www.rayovac.com/busoem/oem/specs/clock5a.shtml > > Their corporate locations can be seen at: > > http://www.rayovac.com/about/info/com_loc.shtml > > I'm sure one of these corporate offices can direct you to a consumer > retailer that can help you out. > > Hope this information helps out a little bit....   -- ***************************************************** Healthcare references for everyone. "Recipient of the year 2000 Featured Site Award at healthAtoZ.com" http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/m_erika.html   Internet Safety Lessons. Must reading for everyone. http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/safetylessons.html *****************************************************      
(back) Subject: Re: Macintosh Performa 6300 Computer - off topic reply From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 10:53:14 EDT   In a message dated 10/6/2001 12:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, patian@senet.com.au writes:   The battery (back-up) for the clock has gone flat. It's a Rayvac, Part No 841, Alkaline, 4.8 volts, made in U.S.A. The price in South Australia, from Macintosh dealers, is quoted at $40 (AU) for a genuine Macintosh spare part! There's got to be a less-expensive replacement. I hope! -------------------   I can check a camera store here (NY), if you like - perhaps there's = something compatible. Do you know what it looks like - button, or other?   Vicki    
(back) Subject: Re: Amateurs paving the way for professionals ????? From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 15:09:22 -0400     Wayne:   I applaude your efforts at your church and Im sure they are thankful to = have you among them.   However, I think you misunderstood Glendas comments and the usual progression of music programs.   I am now a Full time director of music and organist at a church that is = just barely 38 years old. Its short history is full of some amazing non professionals and some who later became professionals, building the = program to the point that they began a full time ministry about 8 years ago. If = it were not for the dedication and vision of those lay folks I would not have = a job. Many other churches I have worked for have very similar stories.   Be careful how quickly you dismiss the role that the non professional = plays. And as you yourself pointed out, not all professionals do that good of a =   job.   Craig     _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp    
(back) Subject: Re: tracker action sqeak boxes From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 15:11:56 -0400     Monty:   For my money Beaufort SC is the prettiest!!!!     _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp    
(back) Subject: Re: tracker action sqeak boxes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 16:19:59 EDT     --part1_116.5b40cf2.28f0c16f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/6/01 7:42:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com =   writes:     > I'm not against trackers, just the thin, screechy, neo-baroque, grate on = the > ears voicing that so many tracker builders were famous for. >   Yet another offensive generalization. (can't you just say what you want = to without being catty and offensive?). While you're in Florida you could =   hear MORE screechy, neo-baroque, grate on the ears voiced organ on electropneumatic chests. Very few builders understood what was going on = at the beginning of this change.   But, there is no reason to use inflammatory or derogatory language. It = just is not productive or considerate.   Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_116.5b40cf2.28f0c16f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/6/01 7:42:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm not against = trackers, just the thin, screechy, neo-baroque, grate on the ears voicing = that so many tracker builders were famous for. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Yet another offensive generalization. &nbsp;(can't you just say what = you want to without being catty and offensive?). = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;While you're in Florida you could hear MORE = screechy, neo-baroque, grate on the ears voiced organ on electropneumatic = chests. &nbsp;&nbsp;Very few builders understood what was going on at the = beginning of this change. <BR> <BR>But, there is no reason to use inflammatory or derogatory language. = &nbsp;It just is not productive or considerate. <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_116.5b40cf2.28f0c16f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Chris McPhee Plays Rochester Wurlitzer on Oct. 13 (cross-posted) From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 20:53:19 -0400   Australian theater organist Chris Mc Phee will entertain at Rochester's Auditorium Center 4/22 Wurlitzer at 8 p.m. on Saturday, October 13th. This will mark this young and dynamic performer's debut before a Rochester audience.   The Auditorium Center is located at 875 East Main Street, Rochester, NY 14605. Tickets priced at only $10 each will go on sale at 7 p.m. at the = box office.   This will be the last concert at the Auditorium Center until next January. RTOS will move to the Eisenhart Auditorium Wurlitzer for events in = November and December while the "Phantom" returns to the Auditorium Center during those two months.   Complete information including Chris McPhee's biography, driving and hotel information, RTOS membership bonus offer plus lots of pictures are yours when you visit http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ . A very talented = artist, a famous Wurlitzer and a friendly welcome await you.   Best regards, Ken Evans, President of RTOS