PipeChat Digest #2423 - Monday, October 8, 2001
 
Re: Felix's performances
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Music on Tape
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Music on Tape
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: Music on Tape
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Music on Tape
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Music on Tape
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
A Technical question
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: A Technical question
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: A Technical question
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: A Technical question
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Wanted: Unwanted Organ or Console...
  by "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org>
Re: A Technical question
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: A Technical question
  by <MickBerg2@aol.com>
Used consoles free
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Re: A Technical question
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Used consoles free
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Used consoles free
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: A Technical question
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Felix's performances From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 07:09:24 -0500   I second Douglas' motion - his comments are right on the money.   Glenda Sutton        
(back) Subject: Music on Tape From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:13:14 -0400   I've been subbing around this year, having moved to a new area and not quite ready to settle into a single church until something opens up that pays enough to be worth my while. I've been enjoying playing at various small country churches for much less than I would need to be there every week and have planning to do, etc. The church I was at on Sunday has a reasonable organ (Austin 20's, Wicks 90's), about 20 ranks, rather too = loud for the space, but that's beside the point.   I had gotten the bulletin ahead of time, and the music during Communion = was listed as being by the Monks of Weston Priory. I didn't think too much about it, as the church has a couple of guitar players and does a fair amount of happy-clappy, so I was perfectly happy to let them take over the Communion music. Imagine my surprise to discover that the music was by the Monks- but over the PA system from a tape! Halfway through, the minister told me that the tape probably wasn't going to be long enough and asked if I could fill in, so I leafed through the Guilmant "Practical Organist" and started off on something extended and quiet when the song ended. About a minute into the piece, the tape started up again, and I was forced to stop while another piece of God-awful mushy crap regaled the ears of the congregation.   After the service, I told the minister that if they ever did that to me again, they'd better have the last hymn and the postlude on tape, too, because I would be out of there pronto--unless he'd also played a tape of Billy Graham for the sermon.   What is it with people? Am I alone in feeling that having a tape running during communion is an insult to the live musicians there? The church has = a small but adequate choir, and a good choir director; I presume that = they're used to this sort of thing, as they didn't evince any surprise. I, on the other hand, was appalled--the taped music was bad enough, but to have it interrupt a live performer through inattention felt demeaning.   At my previous churches, I put my foot down and wouldn't accept religious karaoke (singers with music-minus-one country gospel backgrounds were out!), where at least the singers were "real," let alone straight taped schlock. The only time I've felt that taped music was appropriate was at a funeral for a woman who'd made some records as a big-band singer in the 40's, and they played some of her songs as the potlude. That had a real connection, and was a great memory piece for all who knew her- and she wasn't half-bad, either.   Anybody else felt like walking out over this issue?   Pauil Opel   http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: Music on Tape From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:29:46 -0400   ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 8:13 AM Subject: Music on Tape   > I've been subbing around this year, having moved to a new area and not > quite ready to settle into a single church until something opens up that > pays enough to be worth my while. I've been enjoying playing at various > small country churches for much less than I would need to be there every > week and have planning to do, etc. The church I was at on Sunday has a > reasonable organ (Austin 20's, Wicks 90's), about 20 ranks, rather too loud > for the space, but that's beside the point. > > I had gotten the bulletin ahead of time, and the music during Communion was > listed as being by the Monks of Weston Priory. I didn't think too much > about it, as the church has a couple of guitar players and does a fair > amount of happy-clappy, so I was perfectly happy to let them take over = the > Communion music. Imagine my surprise to discover that the music was by = the > Monks- but over the PA system from a tape! Halfway through, the minister > told me that the tape probably wasn't going to be long enough and asked = if > I could fill in, so I leafed through the Guilmant "Practical Organist" = and > started off on something extended and quiet when the song ended. About a > minute into the piece, the tape started up again, and I was forced to = stop > while another piece of God-awful mushy crap regaled the ears of the > congregation. > > After the service, I told the minister that if they ever did that to me > again, they'd better have the last hymn and the postlude on tape, too, > because I would be out of there pronto--unless he'd also played a tape = of > Billy Graham for the sermon. > > What is it with people? Am I alone in feeling that having a tape running > during communion is an insult to the live musicians there? The church = has a > small but adequate choir, and a good choir director; I presume that they're > used to this sort of thing, as they didn't evince any surprise. I, on = the > other hand, was appalled--the taped music was bad enough, but to have it > interrupt a live performer through inattention felt demeaning. > > At my previous churches, I put my foot down and wouldn't accept = religious > karaoke (singers with music-minus-one country gospel backgrounds were > out!), where at least the singers were "real," let alone straight taped > schlock. The only time I've felt that taped music was appropriate was at = a > funeral for a woman who'd made some records as a big-band singer in the > 40's, and they played some of her songs as the potlude. That had a real > connection, and was a great memory piece for all who knew her- and she > wasn't half-bad, either. > > Anybody else felt like walking out over this issue? > > Paul Opel     Hi Paul,   I am completely stunned! Such a slap-in-the-face to ALL musicians = involved in that church...from every volunteer choir member to the organist and to the choir director. Your comment about a Billy Graham sermon was a wonderful comeback. These churches wonder why they can't get volunteers = to do a number of tasks....why bother! Yeah, let's go to the concert hall to hear the orchestra - on tape! How absurd! Or, to put it in their terms = -- how about going to the baseball playoffs and watching it....on video tape!   Hint.......next time you play there, bring a magnet! Place that next to = the tape and listen to the music disappear!   Bonnie Beth   Bonnie Beth Derby, B.Mus., M.Mus. Organist & Director of Music, St. James Roman Catholic Church, Syracuse [1988 Odell/Kerner & Merchant 33-rank tracker organ] Producer & Host: "Orgelwerke" & "Choral Traditions", WCNY-FM, 91.3, Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown; Website: www.wcny.org e-mail: orge@dreamscape.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Music on Tape From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:16:31 -0400       Bonnie Beth Derby wrote: > > Yeah, let's go to the concert hall to > hear the orchestra - on tape! How absurd! Or, to put it in their terms = -- > how about going to the baseball playoffs and watching it....on video = tape!   That was tried at a Broadway Musical with Liza Minnelli some years ago. I believe it was "The Act". Several of her songs were on tape with Liza lip-synching. A woman I worked with saw the show and felt cheated. Sadly, many people expect all music to be miked and amplified.   ...And don't even know the difference.   Stan Lowkis    
(back) Subject: Re: Music on Tape From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:34:53 EDT     --part1_9f.1c5d002a.28f3138d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I once played in a large Baptist Church with a concert grand piano and 3manual pipe organ. The choir director allowed the soloists to sing = using taped accompaniment, even though there were two professional musicians to accompany. The soloists, the choir, pianist and organist alternated = playing the music at the offering. One week he came to me and said, I'd like = for you to play the offertory music on Sunday. "No problem," sez I. Two = days later I handed him a tape and said, "This is for Sunday's offertory." "What is this?" he asks. I said, "Oh, that's the vocal part of the solo =   I'm accompanying on Sunday." "Oh, we can't do that," he says. = Finally, he said that he got my point, but that nothing was going to change. Two =   weeks later during a solo with a taped accompaniment, the lights flickered =   out and back on, just enough to stop reset the tape player. The guy in = the "booth" moved the tape back a little and then turned it on. The soloist listened and when he realized where the accomaniment was, he continued to sing. Unfortunately, (or not), his next text was, "and why, Lord, does = this happen to me?" The congregation and soloist burst into spontaneous laughter and he had to end the solo.   Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_9f.1c5d002a.28f3138d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I once played in a = large Baptist Church with a concert grand piano and 3manual pipe organ. = &nbsp;&nbsp;The choir director allowed the soloists to sing using taped = accompaniment, even though there were two professional musicians to = accompany. &nbsp;&nbsp;The soloists, the choir, pianist and organist = alternated playing the music at the offering. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;One week = he came to me and said, I'd like for you to play the offertory music on = Sunday. &nbsp;&nbsp;"No problem," sez I. &nbsp;&nbsp;Two days later I = handed him a tape and said, "This is for Sunday's offertory." = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"What is this?" he asks. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I said, "Oh, = that's the vocal part of the solo I'm accompanying on Sunday." = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Oh, we can't do that," he says. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Finally, he said that he got my point, but that = nothing was going to change. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Two weeks later during a = solo with a taped accompaniment, the lights <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_9f.1c5d002a.28f3138d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Music on Tape From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:39:36 EDT     --part1_54.1c0cf8ae.28f314a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/8/01 9:28:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, orge@dreamscape.com writes:     > I am completely stunned! Such a slap-in-the-face to ALL musicians = involved > in that church...from every volunteer choir member to the organist and = to > the choir director.   I remember watching a mega-church in Jacksonville FL on TV (for giggles) = one evening and the soloists situation just boggled my mind. She stoop up = to sing "How Great Thou Art" and the accompaniment began. The gentle plucking of the harp..... the camera zoomed in on their own harpist, who happened to be sitting idly in her chair. Next the strings entered.... = camera zooms in on the string section which is sitting politely with = their instruments in their lap. The piano began playing rolling = arpeggios..... zoom in to see empty bench. Organ accompaniment begins roaring in the background... camera zooms in on huge Rodgers console with no organist playing. Finally the soloist starts singing.... well, at least SHE = was really singing. But it was ludicrous to the laughable point.   Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_54.1c0cf8ae.28f314a8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/8/01 9:28:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, orge@dreamscape.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am completely = stunned! &nbsp;Such a slap-in-the-face to ALL musicians involved <BR>in that church...from every volunteer choir member to the organist and = to <BR>the choir director. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I remember watching a mega-church in Jacksonville FL on TV (for = giggles) one evening and the soloists situation just boggled my mind. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;She stoop up to sing "How Great Thou Art" &nbsp;and the = accompaniment began. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The gentle plucking of the = harp..... the camera zoomed in on their own harpist, who happened to be = sitting idly in her chair. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Next the strings = entered.... &nbsp;camera zooms in on the string section which is = &nbsp;sitting politely with their instruments in their lap. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The piano began playing rolling arpeggios..... = &nbsp;&nbsp;zoom in to see empty bench. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Organ = accompaniment begins roaring in the background... camera zooms in on huge = Rodgers console with no organist playing. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Finally the = soloist starts singing.... &nbsp;well, &nbsp;at least SHE was really = singing. &nbsp;&nbsp;But it was ludicrous to the laughable point. <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_54.1c0cf8ae.28f314a8_boundary--  
(back) Subject: A Technical question From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:52:04 EDT     --part1_10.139e4db1.28f31794_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Does anyone know if it is possible, or have the ability, to copy a CD/DVD = on to a video cassette? Thnque!   Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_10.139e4db1.28f31794_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Does anyone know if it = is possible, or have the ability, to copy a CD/DVD on to a video cassette? = &nbsp;&nbsp;Thnque! <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_10.139e4db1.28f31794_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A Technical question From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 07:57:47 -0700   There is no problem dubbing a CD onto video tape and there should be no problem with a DVD as long as it is in the same video format as the video machine. I dub video tape from a camera with music dubbed from a cassette recorder and commentary from a microphone with no problem. You would need a multi channel mixer if you want to dub a commentary but a cheap one at less than $100 will do the job. Most modern TV sets, even the cheap ones have both audio and video inputs and the mixing is done in the TV. If the TV has not those inputs then a VCR has, and connecting it to the TV as monitor allows you to see and hear what you are putting on the video tape. You don't need a mixer in this case. It works Bruce! Bob Elms.   By video format I mean which of two standards. The USA uses NTSC (Never The Same Color!!!!) while many countries including Australia and some European countries use PAL format. They are not compatible except in some modern VCRs which can handle both formats.   Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > Does anyone know if it is possible, or have the ability, to copy a > CD/DVD on to a video cassette? Thnque! > >    
(back) Subject: Re: A Technical question From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:55:20 -0400   That one should be easy- just connect the DVD to a VCR instead of to the = TV set. Unplug the coax cable from the back of the TV and put it into the cable in on the VCR. You can then run another cable from the VCR out to = the TV, and have the DVD and the VCR both hooked up and ready to go.   P   >Does anyone know if it is possible, or have the ability, to copy a = CD/DVD on to a video cassette? Thnque! > >Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > >Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com >with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: A Technical question From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:59:59 -0400   Being here in the US, where we hardly ever run into different formats, I hadn't thought of that. Good point!   Paul > >By video format I mean which of two standards. The USA uses NTSC (Never >The Same Color!!!!) while many countries including Australia and some >European countries use PAL format. They are not compatible except in >some modern VCRs which can handle both formats. > >Cremona502@cs.com wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if it is possible, or have the ability, to copy a >> CD/DVD on to a video cassette? Thnque! >> >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Wanted: Unwanted Organ or Console... From: "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:45:01 -0700 (PDT)   Greetings everyone...   I am embarking on a project to build an organ to take with me to the middle of the Nevada desert to perform a concert (long story...) Because of the harsh environment (this is an outdoor event), the console itself will likely suffer sun and weather damage, as well as scratches from being trucked around. Thus, I don't want to sacrifice a new or "nice" organ to this task.   I plan on using an Ahlborn Archive sound module and wiring up a MIDI controller to a console.   What I am looking for (ideally) is a dead electronic organ, which I will "gut" and just use the electrical contacts of its keys, pedals, and stop tabs.   The condition or appearance of the console is not that important. It could have fire or water damage, horrible paint, or just general ugly design.   The only important things are:   1. The keys must use normal electrical contacts - no purely mechanical reed organ consoles.   2. The console must be AGO (32 pedals) (no hammonds) and two (or more) manuals. (I intend to play serious music in a totally un-serious setting).   3. Must be extremely cheap or free. (I ask the impossible!) There is no budget for this endeavor.   So, if anyone (preferably in Oregon or Washington) knows of a disused, unwanted organ that is gathering dust or wasting space, and wouldn't feel bad if it was put through this bizarre transformation, please contact me - I would love to hear from you.   Thanks for reading this and take care,   Bob Richardson Corvallis, OR   541-758-5018 Home 541-752-5542 Work (Ask for Bob) bob@peak.org      
(back) Subject: Re: A Technical question From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:54:34 -0400       Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > Does anyone know if it is possible, or have the ability, to copy a = CD/DVD on > to a video cassette? Thnque!   CDs - no problem.   Most DVDs are Copy Protected very effectively; even more so than = videotape. And those that are not, in most cases, lose that pristine picture quality. on the transfer.   CDs on videotape can give you 6 - 10 hrs of music. The quality of such a recording on a HI-FI VCR is very close to the original. Interesting, the slower 'EP' speed has slightly better specs. although the problem of dropouts can be problematic if the tape is worn.   Stan (who has seen dropouts hanging around street corners all day long)    
(back) Subject: Re: A Technical question From: <MickBerg2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:12:16 EDT     --part1_11d.56ba723.28f33870_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I feel I must correct Bob Elm's very serious error in his message. NTSC stands for "Never TWICE the Same Color." It's important to be accurate about these things. :-)   Mick Berg.   --part1_11d.56ba723.28f33870_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>I feel I must correct Bob Elm's very serious error in his = message. <BR>NTSC stands for "Never TWICE the Same Color." <BR>It's important to be accurate about these things. :-) <BR> <BR>Mick Berg.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_11d.56ba723.28f33870_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Used consoles free From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:11:31 -0700   I have an Austin 2m console AGO, and Allen 2m theatre console with 32 note home style (slightly smaller than AGO) pedal board, and an old Schoenstein console AGO. All of these have mechanical contacts. I call them crank & slider switches. I'll have another Allen console in the next month that is 2m AGO.   I also have two three rank Schoenstein windchests (same thing from two organs).   All of these and more are going to the dump if no one wants them before the rain season starts in a month or so. They can easily be seen, but I'm not going to spend much time on them.   Blaine Ricketts Castro Valley, CA  
(back) Subject: Re: A Technical question From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:19:43 EDT     --part1_2d.12310b35.28f3564f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/8/01 12:29:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = popel@sover.net writes:     > That one should be easy- just connect the DVD to a VCR instead of to the = TV > set. Unplug the coax cable from the back of the TV and put it into the > cable in on the VCR. You can then run another cable from the VCR out to = the > TV, and have the DVD and the VCR both hooked up and ready to go. > >   Um...... what happens if I just have a CD player. I can play the CD/DVD = on my computer. Haven't tried it on the CD player. Duh! Is there a difference?   Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_2d.12310b35.28f3564f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/8/01 12:29:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, popel@sover.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">That one should be = easy- just connect the DVD to a VCR instead of to the TV <BR>set. Unplug the coax cable from the back of the TV and put it into the <BR>cable in on the VCR. You can then run another cable from the VCR out = to the <BR>TV, and have the DVD and the VCR both hooked up and ready to go. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Um...... what happens if I just have a CD player. &nbsp;&nbsp;I can = play the CD/DVD on my computer. &nbsp;Haven't tried it on the CD player. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duh! &nbsp;Is there a difference? <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_2d.12310b35.28f3564f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Used consoles free From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:39:02 -0400   Dear Blaine, Would you be interested in selling the manual cheeks from one of the Allen consoles.That's the piece of wood right next to low an high C. If = you do, let me know what you want for them. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com> To: "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org>; <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 2:11 PM Subject: Used consoles free     > I have an Austin 2m console AGO, and Allen 2m theatre console with 32 > note home style (slightly smaller than AGO) pedal board, and an old > Schoenstein console AGO. All of these have mechanical contacts. I call > them crank & slider switches. I'll have another Allen console in the > next month that is 2m AGO. > > I also have two three rank Schoenstein windchests (same thing from two > organs). > > All of these and more are going to the dump if no one wants them before > the rain season starts in a month or so. They can easily be seen, but > I'm not going to spend much time on them. > > Blaine Ricketts > Castro Valley, CA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Used consoles free From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:24:02 EDT   Just a note to list members: Some of the BIG AMERICAN FACTORY BUILDERS did NOT use AGO standard pedal claviers, and until recently, some didn't even use strictly AGO manuals. Make sure before you purchase, IF that is important to you. If not, go ahead. There seems to be a faction on one of the other chatlists which believes that AGO standards are crippling and disfiguring torture devices, =   and that only a convex and converging pedal clavier will do. Chacun a son =   gout. SMG  
(back) Subject: Re: A Technical question From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:23:56 -0700   Mick was right!!! Sorry!!! BTW, no apostrophe! Bob E.   MickBerg2@aol.com wrote: > > I feel I must correct Bob Elm's very serious error in his message. > NTSC stands for "Never TWICE the Same Color." > It's important to be accurate about these things. :-) > > Mick Berg.