PipeChat Digest #2458 - Thursday, October 25, 2001
 
stop tabs
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: The Crescendo Crutch
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: The Crescendo Crutch
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: The Crescendo Crutch
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Used consoles free
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations
  by <OrganNYC@aol.com>
Tutti / Full Organ
  by "Elders, Craig" <c.elders@tcu.edu>
travelling to distant places, dimensions
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: MIDI problem.
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: MIDI problem.
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
RE: tierces in chorus mixtures / an early crescendo mechanism
  by "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com>
Re: The Crescendo Crutch
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@swbell.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2451 - 10/24/01
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: stop tabs From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:26:07 -0700   Diane, that reminds me of two organs I was confronted with in high school = ... one was an ANCIENT Moller Artiste in the Episcopal church in Bartow FL ... = attached keydesk, three or four ranks (Diapason Conique, Flute, Salicional, maybe a = Dulciana), reed box for the 16' end of the pedals ... the regular organist was a heavy-handed = jazz pianist, a lady of (ahem!) some "substance" ... the organ repair man had to visit = about once a year to replace the broken-off stop tablets. In the interims, the only way = you could engage about half the stops was through the crescendo pedal.   The other was an old Frazee (?) or Hillgreen-Lane (??) in a Methodist = church somewhere in the hinterlands of Central Florida ... our youth choir went there to = sing for a youth rally or something. When I sat down at the organ, I discovered that = the tab for the single 16' Pedal stop, a "HOOOOOOOT" of some description, was broken = off ... FORTUNATELY, the Pedal HOOOOOOT was the FIRST thing that came on with the = crescendo pedal, BEFORE the Swell to Great, so all I had to do was open the = crescendo pedal a smidge and the HOOOOOT played. Afterwards, the regular organist came up = and said, "HOW did you do THAT?" and I showed her, probably robbing a service tech of a = service call (grin).   What WERE *old* stop tabs made of? It seems to me I played MORE than my = share of old organs with broken-off stop tabs, BUT *not* Mollers or Austins (except for = that one poor abused Artiste) ... THOSE seem to last forever ... they just get = yellower and yellower (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   STRAIGHT wrote:   > I find this whole conversation about the crescendo pedal highly = amusing, > because when I started playing the pipe organ at this church, that was = the > only way you could get any volume out of the thing. The cresc. pedal = seemed > to bring in stops that weren't working from the console controls. > > Now, after considerable repair over a period of time, I have = been using the > thing less and less. Don't need it so much now any more, but I sure did = at > the beginning! > > However, the entire piston/preset works does not function, so I = do > everything by hand, sometimes using a helper, and do use that cresc. at > times. It's quite an advantage having it separate, and not as part of = the > preset electronics. > > Diane S. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: The Crescendo Crutch From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:27:52 -0700   Point taken, except that when setting up the crescendo sequence on an = organ of any size, it would be convenient to SEE what's been engaged and what = hasn't. I seem to recall that on Rodgers electronics, the drawknobs stayed lit as = you added them into the crescendo sequence, and that WAS helpful.   Cheers,   Bud   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > I've not ever seen any of that light show. Interesting. But I prefer the > swell and crescendo open lights to the what-stops-are-we-using-now = lights. > If ya can't hear it's a flute, maybe you should play the pie-ana. > > -----Original Message----- > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:26 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: The Crescendo Crutch > > Go to your ROOM, Robert (grin). > > I've often thought, in this age of LEDs and whatnot, that it WOULD be > useful to have a small light above each stop so you COULD see when it = came > on in the crescendo sequence ... if nothing else, it'd be pretty at > Christmastime (grin) ... what are those colors again? Red for reeds, > yellow for strings ... well, we'd have to improvise from there ... true > blue for Diapasons, green for flutes (green for flutes??? don't know = where > THAT came from ... my original inclination was PINK, but I gave it a > pass), maybe a FLASHING red light for the party horn(s)? > > Cheers, > > Bud, who's about to conclude that being housebound for a time CAN be fun > (grin) > > "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: > > > Which means, what, the Toilette is occupied? > > > > >Oh yeah, the little Green Light IS on!!! LOL > > > > Jeff > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: The Crescendo Crutch From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:37:51 -0400   Oh, I'm sorry I did not even see that you were saying that they = indicated what was in the crescendo sequence, duh, I'm tired and falling asleep, = I wanna go home, I'm working too hard today but I thougth you were saying = that the lights go on as you select a stop, e.g., you draw a rohrfl=F6te and = a green light goes on...draw the diapason and a blue light lights up to = tell you that's what you draw, HEL-lo. My mistake. Sorry. robert   -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:28 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: The Crescendo Crutch     Point taken, except that when setting up the crescendo sequence on an = organ of any size, it would be convenient to SEE what's been engaged and what = hasn't. I seem to recall that on Rodgers electronics, the drawknobs stayed lit as = you added them into the crescendo sequence, and that WAS helpful.   Cheers,   Bud   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > I've not ever seen any of that light show. Interesting. But I prefer = the > swell and crescendo open lights to the what-stops-are-we-using-now = lights. > If ya can't hear it's a flute, maybe you should play the pie-ana. > > -----Original Message----- > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:26 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: The Crescendo Crutch > > Go to your ROOM, Robert (grin). > > I've often thought, in this age of LEDs and whatnot, that it WOULD be > useful to have a small light above each stop so you COULD see when it = came > on in the crescendo sequence ... if nothing else, it'd be pretty at > Christmastime (grin) ... what are those colors again? Red for reeds, > yellow for strings ... well, we'd have to improvise from there ... = true > blue for Diapasons, green for flutes (green for flutes??? don't know = where > THAT came from ... my original inclination was PINK, but I gave it a > pass), maybe a FLASHING red light for the party horn(s)? > > Cheers, > > Bud, who's about to conclude that being housebound for a time CAN be = fun > (grin) > > "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: > > > Which means, what, the Toilette is occupied? > > > > >Oh yeah, the little Green Light IS on!!! LOL > > > > Jeff > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: The Crescendo Crutch From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:39:51 -0400   I'm waiting for the day you draw a stop and end up in, oh, I don't know, Venice or Berlin. Well, organ builders why can't ya do that, eh? I = challenge you. Robert Colasacco   -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:28 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: The Crescendo Crutch     Point taken, except that when setting up the crescendo sequence on an = organ of any size, it would be convenient to SEE what's been engaged and what = hasn't. I seem to recall that on Rodgers electronics, the drawknobs stayed lit as = you added them into the crescendo sequence, and that WAS helpful.   Cheers,   Bud   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > I've not ever seen any of that light show. Interesting. But I prefer the > swell and crescendo open lights to the what-stops-are-we-using-now = lights. > If ya can't hear it's a flute, maybe you should play the pie-ana. > > -----Original Message----- > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:26 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: The Crescendo Crutch > > Go to your ROOM, Robert (grin). > > I've often thought, in this age of LEDs and whatnot, that it WOULD be > useful to have a small light above each stop so you COULD see when it = came > on in the crescendo sequence ... if nothing else, it'd be pretty at > Christmastime (grin) ... what are those colors again? Red for reeds, > yellow for strings ... well, we'd have to improvise from there ... true > blue for Diapasons, green for flutes (green for flutes??? don't know = where > THAT came from ... my original inclination was PINK, but I gave it a > pass), maybe a FLASHING red light for the party horn(s)? > > Cheers, > > Bud, who's about to conclude that being housebound for a time CAN be fun > (grin) > > "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: > > > Which means, what, the Toilette is occupied? > > > > >Oh yeah, the little Green Light IS on!!! LOL > > > > Jeff > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Used consoles free From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:36:43 -0400   Dear Blaine, Hopefully you did not forget me. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 11:29 PM Subject: Re: Used consoles free     > Hi Paul, > > Yes, I can do that. I think I have two manuals with Walnut cheeks from > a vintage with the removable plastic front keys MOS I. I think I also > have two cheeks from a Theatre Deluxe analog organ where the wood used > is a kind of medium blonde color. Which one might be best? Where do > you live? I'm not sure what to charge you other than labor to pack and > ship them. What happened to the cheeks on your keyboards? > > Blaine Ricketts > > Paul Valtos wrote: > > > > Dear Blaine, > > Would you be interested in selling the manual cheeks from one of the > > Allen consoles.That's the piece of wood right next to low an high C. = If you > > do, let me know what you want for them. > > Paul > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations From: <OrganNYC@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:10:50 EDT     --part1_11d.643314c.2909cbca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/25/01 2:19:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes:     > The crescendo at Heavenly Rest in NYC (pre-fire) had light indicators. = There > were little lights in a row that lit up one at a time from left to right = as > one opened further the crescendo. In fact, I think they were there for = the > Swell shades as well on the Choir, Swell and Solo divisions. But that = was a > great feature to know that the crescendo was up 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or = however > much open. > Robert Colasacco >   The present 5-manual console at Church of the Heavenly Rest, built by Guilbault-Therien in 1993, retains the green lights for the 4 swell shoes. = I think there are about 8 lights for each shoe. The Crescendo indicator is = a digital readout, located on the upper left corner of the right stop jamb. =   Crescendo selector switches (Standard, A, B, C) are on the left stop jamb with the rest of the SSL controls.   Steve Lawson Assistant, Church of the Heavenly Rest   --part1_11d.643314c.2909cbca_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#030025" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Verdana" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 10/25/01 2:19:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org = writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The crescendo at = Heavenly Rest in NYC (pre-fire) had light indicators. There <BR>were little lights in a row that lit up one at a time from left to = right as <BR>one opened further the crescendo. In fact, I think they were there for = the <BR>Swell shades as well on the Choir, Swell and Solo divisions. But that = was a <BR>great feature to know that the crescendo was up 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or = however <BR>much open. <BR>Robert Colasacco <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#030025" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Verdana" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>The present 5-manual console at Church of the Heavenly Rest, built by = Guilbault-Therien in 1993, retains the green lights for the 4 swell shoes. = &nbsp;I think there are about 8 lights for each shoe. &nbsp;The Crescendo = indicator is a digital readout, located on the upper left corner of the = right stop jamb. &nbsp;Crescendo selector switches (Standard, A, B, C) are = on the left stop jamb with the rest of the SSL controls. <BR> <BR>Steve Lawson <BR>Assistant, Church of the Heavenly Rest</FONT></HTML>   --part1_11d.643314c.2909cbca_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Tutti / Full Organ From: "Elders, Craig" <c.elders@tcu.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:15:42 -0500   I used to play on a Reuter in San Antonio. Up high above other toe studs = -- way to the right was a reversible for the Cymbelstern and next to that was the Full Organ. And you know, there are not many occasions, when my aim = was bad, that the result worked! It was a shock to reach up to add a little "tinkle" to the end of a very soft passage only to add the full resources = or the organ - just not the same. (But that does tend to wake up anyone that had drifted off!)   Nor did it work when you were ready to add a powerful statement to what = was going on, only to receive a little "tinkle".   Have a wonderful Friday-eve. Craig Elders  
(back) Subject: travelling to distant places, dimensions From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 13:55:51 -0700   Robert, are you saying that some (most?) organ-builders are ALREADY living in a parallel universe, and that they ought to be able to get the REST of us there by the simple addition of a few pistons? (grin)   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: MIDI problem. From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:38:01 EDT   In a message dated 10/25/01 10:28:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, elmsr@albanyis.com.au writes:   << The computer is a Pentium 3, with 64 mB of RAM and a 6 Gig HDD. Noteworthy works very well with the mouse, and all the features seem to be working very well. Any ideas anyone? >>   Does the computer have a "real" sound card, or is it just a chip on the motherboard? I can use my computer to play out wonderfully through = several different keyboards, from cheap toys to a very nice Roland. But the = computer will not accept the playing in of notes into Sibelius. It turns out that =   the "chip" soundcards are not really designed to accept information, only = to give it out.  
(back) Subject: Re: MIDI problem. From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:22:31 +0100   Bob,   I use Noteworthy Composer with a Midi Controller keyboard with no = problems. Noteworthy is something different - which one is it ?   I assume the cable is the bifurcated type with with one plug on one end, = and two on the other. As has been suggested, check you don't have the in and = the out plugs transposed.   The vital step no-one has mentioned is to activate the internal = connections between Noteworthy Composer (or whatever software you are using) and the Midi port on the back of the computer which is part of the soundcard.   In NWC the Midi input connection is at Tools - Options - Record - Input Device, your soundcard input port will be listed -select it and click OK. Also check Help for assistance on the other settings. This will allow you = to play your organ and record the notes in NWC as notation and/or a midi = file.   NWC Midi output connection is at Tools - Options - Midi. Your soundcard ouput port will be listed under Available Playback Devices, select it and click the arrow to enter it in the Devices Used by Playback box and click OK. This will let you run a midi or notation file in NWC and hear the = music on your organ. You may have to designate appropriate channels and patches.   If you are not using NWC the entries will be similar - possible on a Mid Devices menu.   Someone said Midi files are large - this is not so - they are tiny, rarely more than 0.1Mb.   If you have NWC (or whatever) running on your computer and you are using = the organ for record and playback, that's all you need.   If you have a Soundblaster Live or similar soundcard you might be = interested in the pipe organ soundfonts on my website which would give you an extra organ = (or two) on your computer. You might be able to load them into your organ to give you extra sounds.   HTH - mail me if you need any more help.     Bruce Miles   mail to:- bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk website:- www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:26 PM       > I have an AG portable organ, model H6, which is MIDI compatible. I have > been trying to connect it to my computer so that I can use it to play > MIDI files and write in notation organ music played on it. Should be a > darned sight easier than to laboriously "mouse" it in. I am using > Noteworthy which has MIDI compatibility. And I have the correct cable > which fits the MIDI port on the computer and the IN and OUT MIDI ports > on the organ. > Setting up the AG is easy but still no joy. No communication between > the computer and the organ. There are instructions in the HELP files of > the computer, but they don't seem to make sense. I have done all they > say but some of the instructions don't seem to fit the computer - maybe > they are for WIN95. I am using WIN98. > The computer is a Pentium 3, with 64 mB of RAM and a 6 Gig HDD. > Noteworthy works very well with the mouse, and all the features seem to > be working very well. Any ideas anyone? > The AG is great. Good organ sound and very useful. I'd love to have one > of the archive units too but I have to call a halt somewhere!! > Bob Elms. >    
(back) Subject: RE: tierces in chorus mixtures / an early crescendo mechanism From: "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:59:28 -0500   I often wish the same thing, Robert. First time I heard that huge = diminished chord + suspension at the end of the Adagio from his C Major = Toccata, Adagio, and Fugue I almost passed right out. :o) If any of the = organ techs on this list can develop a time machine with left over bits of = their great-auntie's hammond, let me know.   Mandy -- On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:49:25 COLASACCO, ROBERT wrote: >Certainly and without a doubt Herr JS had deep desire for dissonance. = Given time he'd have surpassed chromaticism and possibly attained an = atonal >system. Geez do I wish I could have heard him play.       Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp  
(back) Subject: Re: The Crescendo Crutch From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:20:31 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   --Boundary_(ID_0dYG0m92YcfRc17bHirduw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT   Perhaps there should be a "Crescendo pedal" off switch!   Bill Barnard at Christ Church Cathedral was a master as using the = Crescendo pedal for hymns and anthems. That and being a piston-whiz were = two very exciting aspects of his teaching for which I'm very grateful.   I didn't think about it until now, but the Fisk at SMU in Dallas has a = Crescendo off piston. I assume this is probably a simple addition to most = modern organ control systems. The only way I really ever saw people use = it was as a precaution against hitting it accidentally while opening the = swell shoe. Maybe we should look at making these more standard, except = with a key lock for some people... We'll give you the key when we think = you're ready! Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.geocities.com/organwebring The Organ Classifieds http://www.organclassifieds.com     --Boundary_(ID_0dYG0m92YcfRc17bHirduw) Content-type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial = color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Perhaps there should be a "Crescendo pedal" off = switch! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>Bill Barnard at Christ Church Cathedral was a = master as using the Crescendo pedal for hymns and anthems. &nbsp;&nbsp;That and = being a piston-whiz were two very exciting aspects of his teaching for which I'm = very grateful. <BR><BR>I didn't think about it until now, but the Fisk at SMU = in Dallas has a Crescendo off piston.&nbsp; I assume this is probably a = simple addition to most modern organ control systems.&nbsp; The only way I really = ever saw people use it was as a precaution against hitting it accidentally = while opening the swell shoe.&nbsp; Maybe we should look at making these more standard, except with a key lock for some people... We'll give you the key = when we think you're ready!</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial = color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Brent Johnson<BR>The Organ Web Ring<BR><A href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/organwebring">http://www.geocities.com/org= anwebring</A><BR>The Organ Classifieds<BR><A href=3D"http://www.organclassifieds.com">http://www.organclassifieds.com</A= ></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial = color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>   --Boundary_(ID_0dYG0m92YcfRc17bHirduw)--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2451 - 10/24/01 From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:48:41 -0500     Cremona502@cs.com wrote: >On pipe organs, the crescendo is (usually) >fitted with a 'soft stops off' device, so that the louder combinations = are >pure diapason chorii (with reeds where applicable   With modern solid state combination actions this is only of academic interest anyway, since any stop or coupler can be brought on or off at any stage of the crescendo -- so you can easily have the celestes on with the soft combinations and off again with the louder ones, and omit the flutes, etc., on the louder stages. In the old days the first stage was always = "All Stations", which switched on all the chests in the organ. Normally a = chest is switched off so its primaries do not clack away unless any of the stops are actually in use, when it is turned on by a station switch. So there = you would be on an old electo-pneumatic or electro-mechanical console in a = large organ with the primaries of twenty odd chests all clacking away while a single Aeoline was drawn. This was another reason why crescendo pedals = were frowned on. With modern solid state systems you don't have to have any chests activated unless they are actually being used.   John Speller